NEW EVIDENCE In Mike Postle Investigation

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  • Опубліковано 26 гру 2024

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  • @joeingram1
    @joeingram1 5 років тому +457

    Thanks everyone for watching - lets see what happens from here.

    • @ScopesUnderated
      @ScopesUnderated 5 років тому +12

      joeingram1 you’re a legend Joey. Seriously man you are a huge inspiration. FBI HIRE THIS MAN

    • @mantassbakas
      @mantassbakas 5 років тому +9

      You are almost making it personal to find and fight for everyone who was posteled, true poker ambasador

    • @roccoVAL
      @roccoVAL 5 років тому +6

      @@ScopesUnderated dude Joey didn't even figure this out on his own.. A lady that used to work at stones tweeted about it

    • @brucekentallen
      @brucekentallen 5 років тому

      I hope mike continues to cheat on those idiots playing shady games.

    • @Donkadocus
      @Donkadocus 5 років тому +1

      I need to learn PTO!

  • @mattpkp
    @mattpkp 5 років тому +324

    He plays a high variance style with no variance in the results lol

  • @alectorellisbarber1626
    @alectorellisbarber1626 5 років тому +300

    I gave Mike Postle a haircut today. He sat down in the chair and I just held the clippers straight while he maneuvered his head until it was done. We are all mere mortals to Postle.

    • @taylorcoteus1875
      @taylorcoteus1875 5 років тому +9

      Dude this comment....😭😭

    • @fernandinho_ny
      @fernandinho_ny 5 років тому +15

      it actually makes sense that he would go to Torelli's barber

    • @Browndaddy0267
      @Browndaddy0267 5 років тому +6

      I heard he was chuck Norris's nephew

    • @videonikita
      @videonikita 4 роки тому

      best comment ever

    • @walmars3curity
      @walmars3curity 4 роки тому +8

      I bet he still had that fucking hat on

  • @zanepalmer6033
    @zanepalmer6033 5 років тому +129

    “Why’d he put his keys up on the table?” - joeingram1
    “HE WANTED TO” - Serj Tankian

    • @Galahad54
      @Galahad54 5 років тому +15

      I looked at your stats chart. That appears to put Mike Postle at 20 sigmas above normal, not 6, 10, or 12. That is the equivalent of flipping coins 20x20 times and getting heads each time. That is 2^400 to 1 against, or roughly 10^120 to 1 against. To put that in perspective, it is estimated that there between 10^78 and 10^86 atoms in the universe. So, it's picking one atom out of all the atoms in the universe correctly, and having 10^34 to 10^42 to 1 odds left over.
      Or from gambling numbers, there are 16x16=256 regular games in an NFL season. So this is the equivalent of betting all games one season and 9 games for each team in a second season (16x25)=400 and getting every single game correctly.
      I think a reasonable person would conclude that calling Mike Postle "God" is perhaps a bit of an understatement if he did this by skill alone (or any combination of luck and skill).

    • @captainbontekoe6752
      @captainbontekoe6752 5 років тому +7

      Maybe there is some kind of a receiver in the keys, that can receive the signal that is going from table RFID reader to graphics room and then redirects that signal to his phone.

    • @markus9415
      @markus9415 5 років тому +4

      @@Galahad54 You can do all the correct calculations you want but simple body language says enough. Humans always give away information even if they try not to. Mike is a cheater and i know for 99.99 % certainty. It's easy when Mike gets a bit of conspiracy help. News of 8 hours ago is that that casino doesn't do live cashgames anymore so there you go, 1 + 1 = 2. Clear as day. You don't need to be a poker pro or anything to "read" people. Buy a book and test your experience and you will view humans very differently :D

    • @donpodlas5546
      @donpodlas5546 5 років тому +3

      @@markus9415 You are correct sir! Having worked in the gaming profession for nearly 30 years I can safely say, this man is making way too many odd moves. It's extremely obvious he is picking up information from another source besides the game..they'll pop him soon I'm sure....

    • @mikealfonso6403
      @mikealfonso6403 5 років тому +4

      I'm just here to appreciate this joke...

  • @pokerbruh
    @pokerbruh 5 років тому +226

    Both wearing sleeves?! This is serious business!

    • @TheGeneral_LUFC
      @TheGeneral_LUFC 5 років тому +6

      Ingram is wearing a fucking suit jacket. they mean business

  • @ScottHedley
    @ScottHedley 5 років тому +41

    “If you are *crushing* that hard at 1/3, _why are you even here_ ?”🤔🧐
    Good point Doug!

    • @BoleDaPole
      @BoleDaPole 3 роки тому +1

      Bc he has kids to v take care of? He can't go globe trotting wrecking tables from Vegas to Timbuktu while raising kids

  • @jpatche
    @jpatche 5 років тому +39

    Its so easy to beat Mike Postle. If he bets huge on the river and you have a bad hand - call. If he bets huge on the river and you have a good hand - fold.

    • @AndreasFroehliPoker
      @AndreasFroehliPoker 5 років тому +6

      Some people tried that and it worked :D

    • @kfang864
      @kfang864 4 роки тому +3

      100% agreed. His tells are really obvious. Anytime he made a huge river shove, it was always because he had air or had a chop and he knew the other player didn't have the balls to call him. The players he was generally up against are just so bad. The only people that beat him were actual real pros like Taylor Caroll and Rich and Frank made one good call with his snap 2nd pair call. The others were basically throwing money at him so why not take it?

    • @TonyJamesWatt
      @TonyJamesWatt 5 місяців тому +1

      ​@@kfang864 he can see the cards. Have you even watched all of this ? It's pure cheating, silly

    • @TonyJamesWatt
      @TonyJamesWatt 5 місяців тому +1

      ​@kfang864 are you backward ?

    • @jimsty7550
      @jimsty7550 3 місяці тому +1

      ​@@kfang864 sometimes he'd make those types of bets when his opponent had something like 8 high and he had a 10 high. Or he had a pair of 9's and his opponent had a pair of 4's. So it wasn't always that easy betting against the man who had the live reads.

  • @Dub-ry4cs
    @Dub-ry4cs 5 років тому +92

    When he says “oh shit” when the 7 comes on the turn, and his opponent hasn’t shown his hand yet, that’s a DEAD giveaway that he knows what his opponent has. The only time you EVER hear someone say something like that is when you’re all in and both hands are turned over and that card makes it a sweat. Dead giveaway. He’s a cheat!

    • @radigga6231
      @radigga6231 5 років тому +3

      what the time on the video for this?

    • @zenathemalewarrior
      @zenathemalewarrior 5 років тому +11

      @@radigga6231 56:49

    • @anthonyberthon4986
      @anthonyberthon4986 5 років тому +2

      Ryan West 10 8 hearts

    • @Dub-ry4cs
      @Dub-ry4cs 5 років тому +1

      Anthony Berthon ?

    • @VJbrar
      @VJbrar 5 років тому +4

      potential straight for bryan with a 10 8 when the 7 came which could be why someone would say oh shit

  • @davidk3567
    @davidk3567 5 років тому +343

    Have you considered calling it Postle Hands?

    • @mydogsbestfren7490
      @mydogsbestfren7490 5 років тому +1

      Tim Portantno that aint it chief

    • @DarrenSemotiuk
      @DarrenSemotiuk 5 років тому +3

      Impostleable!

    • @DonkeyKongBMAC
      @DonkeyKongBMAC 5 років тому +1

      Winner

    • @iteran1031
      @iteran1031 5 років тому

      Question. What about live at the bike? You just posted how amazing Garret A correctly folded second nuts on a 3 bet preflop. Instead of looking at phone. He can have phone vibrate in pocket when he goes into the tank with blank stare. No text that vibrates. He is good. Texts saying he is behind. Hmmm

    • @williampisano7573
      @williampisano7573 5 років тому +1

      its could the voice of GOD the military used just look up "VOICE OF GOD MILITARY " or DARPA
      in google
      please leave a LIKE and tell Joey and Doug. bec i dont have there numbers DM him also

  • @MaxsCognacReview
    @MaxsCognacReview 5 років тому +64

    The question is not if he cheated, it’s where does he live?

    • @kevinsnyder1390
      @kevinsnyder1390 5 років тому +1

      At this point, if he was smart he wouldn't be living at one location lol

    • @chilogutierrez458
      @chilogutierrez458 4 роки тому

      Theres a time in history this wpuldve warrantted a duel

    • @tehmodestmouse6275
      @tehmodestmouse6275 3 роки тому

      @@1218jmm it’s a joke. Jesus

    • @tehmodestmouse6275
      @tehmodestmouse6275 3 роки тому

      @@1218jmm lmao what? You also deleted your comment??

  • @jonathanjankowski
    @jonathanjankowski 5 років тому +388

    best season of true detectives so far

    • @astudentofhistory6520
      @astudentofhistory6520 5 років тому +3

      @TM Films that stuffs out in the open.. they are too powerful to care if you know or not

    • @williampisano7573
      @williampisano7573 5 років тому +1

      its could the voice of GOD the military used just look up "VOICE OF GOD MILITARY " or DARPA
      in google
      please leave a LIKE and tell Joey and Doug. bec i dont have there numbers DM him also

    • @abpanda1596
      @abpanda1596 5 років тому

      @@williampisano7573 can't find anything about voice of God military. Any link?

    • @AdamTrupish
      @AdamTrupish 5 років тому

      Bahahahaha

    • @ZombieNationLTD
      @ZombieNationLTD 3 роки тому

      Ummm... have you seen Alexandria Daddario? She’ll give you 2 good reasons to disagree

  • @OriginalKarasu
    @OriginalKarasu 5 років тому +34

    "If you have even one leak, the whole sink ships" -Doug Polk 34:10
    LUL

    • @jakemcleod4983
      @jakemcleod4983 4 роки тому

      I just checked to see if anyone commented this ahaha

    • @OldSchooledTV
      @OldSchooledTV 4 роки тому

      I went back and laughed my ass off. Thanks originalkarasu :)

    • @MrJamberee
      @MrJamberee 4 роки тому

      Yeah, and he’s wrong about analysts possibly being involved. What in the world would they have to offer that anybody would bring them into it? Bet it’s JFK and maybe a tech guy. That’s it.

  • @ConstantineAndreas
    @ConstantineAndreas 5 років тому +55

    I would watch an Ingram Polk regular podcast. Thanks guys for being on top of all this.

    • @Jealod24
      @Jealod24 2 роки тому

      Doug wouldn’t be able to handle Joey’s spastic nature

    • @peterandersen6050
      @peterandersen6050 2 роки тому

      if this Mike Postle has not come for a civil courtroom it is INSANE. ASK 200,000 Poker players who have played just 100,000 hands plus and ALL 200,000 WANT TO SAY MIKE POSTLE CHEATER. Mike Postle has to pay these players the money back and in PRISON, but how many are involved ???

  • @fungidungie
    @fungidungie 5 років тому +22

    Been watching you for hours now, I don't even play poker, this is really interesting.

  • @lozgod
    @lozgod 5 років тому +10

    Postle plays a little tighter than Potripper (VPIP 98% vs 76%). Other cheaters consider Postle a Nit and needs to loosen up his pre flop ranges. Include the off suit 7 gappers for balance.

  • @zzzppp1770
    @zzzppp1770 5 років тому +16

    Joey when you google about ear bone stuff it actually shows the same hat Mike was wearing on the photos a few sec later. Look in the left down corner at 1:25:10

  • @4ourse7ens49
    @4ourse7ens49 5 років тому +11

    RFID READER: Maximum read distance of 1.5 meters (4 foot 11 inches) - usually under 1 meter (3 feet) (Seat #2 is a perfect seat to catalogue the most cards.) and you can use a single or multi port reader plus custom antennas to extend the read range to longer tag read distances or a wider RFID read zone.

    • @youngpolar
      @youngpolar 5 років тому +4

      HIS KEYS! THEY ARE ON THE TABLE EVERY SESSION

    • @sdickinson5234
      @sdickinson5234 5 років тому +1

      I don't think you can tell which card is in which spot that way. It will just read the entire deck.

    • @joshuabyrd9737
      @joshuabyrd9737 5 років тому

      This is so disappointing this whole thing

    • @williampisano7573
      @williampisano7573 5 років тому

      its could the voice of GOD the military used just look up "VOICE OF GOD MILITARY " or DARPA
      in google please leave a LIKE and tell Joey and Doug. bec i dont have there numbers DM him also

    • @vinyllpreviews9462
      @vinyllpreviews9462 5 років тому +1

      I wonder if there is something at the table that reads the RFID of everyone's hands at the table, the relays it to the booth. What I'm wondering if sitting in the 1 or 2 seat would pick that up. The guy's company helped set up the system for the casino, so he'd know.

  • @danielbird4472
    @danielbird4472 5 років тому +9

    Something interesting you said “I think everyone who lost money to Mike should be paid their money back” - my question is what about the people who didn’t specifically loose money to mike, however had their hand somewhat influenced by a decision Mike made? Everyone who sat on a table with him should be compensated!!

    • @julianlannoy808
      @julianlannoy808 5 років тому

      Absolutely. This is so bad, I can't believe it didn't pop up sooner..
      Also got very greedy and tried to win all the time, very poor poker knowledge smh

    • @unathorizdwatermelon
      @unathorizdwatermelon 5 років тому +1

      But then anyone he has ever played with can claim thousands of dollars of potential earnings Mike stole. They can only compensate those who clearly lost a definite amount of money to him.

    • @MrJamberee
      @MrJamberee 4 роки тому

      It’s a class action lawsuit, I believe. Anyone who has a claim can join. Collecting from Postle will be difficult, if not impossible. The cardroom will likely be found partially liable.

  • @SuperJuiceman11
    @SuperJuiceman11 5 років тому +61

    This guy looks so guilty.... I love the clip where they have his brother in the booth talking to the commentator in his and he's laughing at about a story about how his brother cheated on a casino machine and then he'd find any angle possible and they're just laughing they come on dude there's a character right there in a nutshell

    • @biggawinnacrapsa3870
      @biggawinnacrapsa3870 5 років тому +4

      @James Tyler - Ivey was a fool, that's what I think. If he had me beside him instead of that woman, he'd still be killing it. You don't walk in and make every correct call, that's so stupid. You change the odds from house up a percent or two to you up a percent or three. If you're not happy winning a hundred grand a day and maybe losing 300 grand in one shot at the end of the week, to end up 300 grand ahead, you're too greedy.

    • @Ibetiwon
      @Ibetiwon 5 років тому +4

      Good catch Dane! Once a cheater always a cheater. He looks like a dirtbag smells like dirtbag and sounds like a dirtbag.

    • @wildestcowboy2668
      @wildestcowboy2668 2 роки тому

      @@peterandersen6050 He has Pete but let's be honest. You seem WAAY to interested in how and why?

    • @peterandersen6050
      @peterandersen6050 2 роки тому

      @@wildestcowboy2668 you are right I know my opinion NOTHING matters, this is up to Casino/involved/state/court/Etc.

    • @wildestcowboy2668
      @wildestcowboy2668 2 роки тому

      @@peterandersen6050 Usually the thief returns to the seen of the crime, would you agree?

  • @zzzgiantawake6195
    @zzzgiantawake6195 5 років тому +68

    It has been announced that Chris Ferguson is doing the investigation.
    :P

    • @joaoalegria7578
      @joaoalegria7578 5 років тому +4

      Yes and Howard Lederer is overseeing it!

    • @stevepwood
      @stevepwood 5 років тому +6

      I heard Phil Ivey's going to pitch in too...

    • @andrespaz4439
      @andrespaz4439 5 років тому

      @@stevepwood Eh, Ivey didnt cheat

    • @HorseRaceHandicrapper
      @HorseRaceHandicrapper 5 років тому +2

      Of course. Jesus always knows when you sin.

    • @MikeGreenwood51
      @MikeGreenwood51 5 років тому

      Andre Spaz
      Right he didn't cheat. He just got caught. Colusion was never cheating was it? The hundreds of thousands his team with fulltilt took from players for colusion was not really cheating was it? Course not. It's wasn't cheating up to the point that they got caught by Fulltilt and Ivy.

  • @jhendlee
    @jhendlee 5 років тому +69

    Will Upswing teach me how to play as well as Postle? Doubt it

    • @Ξεξηρξειι3Ηεηξειεξ
      @Ξεξηρξειι3Ηεηξειεξ 5 років тому +2

      Dougt it*

    • @lozgod
      @lozgod 5 років тому

      Jeremy Hendricks good interneting.

    • @Jeremy_the_bot
      @Jeremy_the_bot 5 років тому +2

      That course is an extra thousand

    • @Jeremy_the_bot
      @Jeremy_the_bot 5 років тому

      @James Tyler no one said he is a bad player. Great players know more about how to cheat than most im sure. Look at the math of this situation, takes your pro mike bias out of it.

    • @minhtrietvo8448
      @minhtrietvo8448 5 років тому

      @James Tyler why doesn't he play in the wsop circuit if he's "crushing the game"?

  • @herbertgearing1702
    @herbertgearing1702 5 років тому +10

    You will notice that in nearly every example of him "not cheating" involved someone standing next to him.

  • @michaelpressley6121
    @michaelpressley6121 5 років тому +15

    Hats off to both of you for what you do for the poker community.

    • @4ourse7ens49
      @4ourse7ens49 5 років тому +4

      Don't take your hat off. You'll never be able to push AQ of C, AJ of D off of the 64S all-in with your monster 95 off. It's just not GTO.

  • @defeatignorance8681
    @defeatignorance8681 4 роки тому +5

    65BB/100. Enough said. I hope he goes broke from civil suits. Greatest poker player to ever live and only plays at one table. No tournaments, no big cash games, just that one table at a small stakes game. The evidence is overwhelming and establishes guilt beyond any reasonable doubt.

  • @LooxeY
    @LooxeY 5 років тому +29

    Can someone alert the California gaming commission? Seriously. People need to be jailed here.

    • @mjriemen
      @mjriemen 5 років тому

      No one will go to jail for even a day for any of this. Maybe some bans, maybe some Gaming Licenses revoked, but thats about it. Even if someone involved were convicted of a crime theyd most likely be looking at a small fine. Thats just how it is in Gaming law violations.

    • @kaiseremotion854
      @kaiseremotion854 5 років тому +1

      Most likely class action lawsuits will happen and things get shut down and people involved in this conspiracy losing tons of money

  • @jamesday7467
    @jamesday7467 5 років тому +7

    53:24 - the female commentator says she’s “taking the 64 all day”, when it’s up against AQs and 95o? Then says that it’s out of the 95 and 64, *but that AQs is definitely not winning this hand when it’s a 52% favourite!?*
    You CANNOT tell me the commentators weren’t involved in this. Either they were (and are trying to give credit to Postle’s heinous play(s)), or are literally the worst commentators of all-time.

    • @dcul8812
      @dcul8812 5 років тому

      James Day bruh. So ridiculous. It infuriated me

    • @ManicMindTrick
      @ManicMindTrick 5 років тому +1

      That was a pretty poor choice to find evidence against her. She said it sort of ironically like she expected the worse hand to win as a goof.

    • @jamesday7467
      @jamesday7467 5 років тому +2

      ManicMindTrick I didn’t think it was ironic at all. Think she was just trying to validate Postle’s play.

    • @SirCanuckelhead
      @SirCanuckelhead 5 років тому +2

      No, she said that purely for entertainment. Commentators need to talk and she went with the classic underdog story.

    • @ManicMindTrick
      @ManicMindTrick 5 років тому

      @@SirCanuckelhead Precisely, but why do you have to be such a party pooper and talk sense when the lynch train is in full swing? We are no interested in any of that sense talk.

  • @publicaccount1589
    @publicaccount1589 5 років тому +32

    the biggest red flag of a cheater is the excuse they use: "I'm a soul reader."

    • @TheRagges
      @TheRagges 5 років тому +5

      like when a old dude dates a kid and says shes an old soul

    • @billybadtoes
      @billybadtoes 5 років тому

      True because how can u get a read on someone who covers their heads everytime they're in a hand

    • @billybadtoes
      @billybadtoes 5 років тому +1

      Makes u wonder what's under his cap visor

  • @kylebroussard5952
    @kylebroussard5952 4 роки тому +2

    Wow. The 95 hand at -1:08 is absolutely cheating. It's not even debatable. How is he putting him on a gutterball after putting him all in on the flop, after a 4 bet preflop. How could a 7 worry him without seeing his opponent's hand? The only 7 that can worry you is 77. Other than that, 108, or some random 2 pairs that should have absolutely folded out, Remember this is a 4-bet pot.
    If you put him on that exclusive set of hands - how are you relieved when a 2nd 7 peels off?
    Then consider what 7 or hand that improves on a 7 is in any non-maniac's preflop 4-bet range? A7, 87, 67, 108 suited maybe? Which by the way are all terrible plays for a winning player at these stakes so you can more or less count them out of your opponent's range. But even those improve on the river to beat him. So he is exclusively putting his opponent on a gutter to have this string of reactions. Then to know he's good before his opponent shows his hand with 3rd pair and 5 high. Unreal.
    It's not so much the all in that makes this suspect. Fine, jam with middle pair on a decent draw board. Fine we all do it sometimes. But the words and the body language before the cards are revealed is absolutely nothing less than evidence of cheating.

  • @balooko31
    @balooko31 5 років тому +30

    "Taylor, the graphics are wrong?!" ... they said the graphics guy's name in that 86o -> 89ss hand

  • @jamesmorphe8003
    @jamesmorphe8003 Рік тому +3

    I DECIDED TO revisit this because im shocked no one has blown the whistle yet. i also cant figure why postle who knew he was being looked at didnt shut down the cheating for awhile.

  • @JohnnyGalyon
    @JohnnyGalyon 5 років тому +32

    PTO lol . Postle Theory Optimal . Joey you are cracking me up. Apostle of Postle .

  • @skylerrand
    @skylerrand 5 років тому +11

    I just realized I live 10 mins from Stones, ima drive over there tomorrow and try to find Mike

  • @run4life2
    @run4life2 5 років тому +14

    I actually like how serious Doug is taking this. For some reason, Joe is making jokes every 5 seconds and being sarcastic but Doug is actually trying to figure out if he's cheating.

    • @GaryMillyz
      @GaryMillyz 5 років тому +2

      Joe is a human golden retriever.

    • @anthonybynum8532
      @anthonybynum8532 5 років тому +4

      Joey invested insane hours and basically broke this story solo. Its callled satire my friend.

    • @Wote89
      @Wote89 5 років тому +4

      I think that's just how much Doug loves the game. Someone doing something this dirty is pretty much a slap in the face of everyone who's put in the time to get good at it.
      But, I also appreciate how *angry* he is about that possibility.

    • @defeatignorance8681
      @defeatignorance8681 2 роки тому

      This is a serious situation and Doug is an expert witness. There are no jokes to be made when you're investigating cheating allegations to help bring recognition to the people that have been illegally deprived of their hard earned money at this table. Doug also knows the gravity of the situation if he says the wrong thing legally speaking. Doug laid his argument out perfectly and no one can deny Postle cheated.

  • @sween1432
    @sween1432 5 років тому +2

    To answer the question at 1:09:07... the "tournament director" has coordinated a secondary feed, in real-time, that the player has been granted access to by his mobile phone. This was likely orchestrated by the tournament director and the video streaming server was probably setup and administered by the person referenced at 1:12:27. If I were that IT guy, I would expect a visit from the FBI and get a lawyer or dip to a country without an extradition treaty.

  • @FairmontJumpan23
    @FairmontJumpan23 5 років тому +47

    Found Worms character’s storyline for Rounders 2

    • @jamesdeppeler793
      @jamesdeppeler793 5 років тому +1

      Maybe he's actually an incognito Ed Norton doing some character immersion method acting. He's been pretending to be some guy named Mike Postle for years undercover to prepare for this role.

  • @vokurkar224
    @vokurkar224 5 років тому +1

    Bone actually conducts sound better then air, you can try it yourself by playing a sound from e.g. fork tuner and placing it to next to your ear, when you stop hearing the sound (as it goes too quite) just move the fork behind ur ear closer to the bone and you should hear that sound again (as the vibrations) are transmitted thru the bone - we actually did this during a physics lessons at high school. There are also artificial ears which are drilled in that bone and enable the hearing to ppl who have disfunction ear (sound does not get propagated in there).

  • @BOTA099
    @BOTA099 5 років тому +17

    OMG. 2 Days in a row Doug was wearing sleeves. This is serious. Freaking. Business.

  • @davebellafamilyfun9356
    @davebellafamilyfun9356 5 років тому +47

    its simple--he has a live feed of the other players cards on his phone

    • @crunch9876
      @crunch9876 5 років тому +5

      Dave & Bella Toy Adventures and how does he get his hands on the feed?

    • @davebellafamilyfun9356
      @davebellafamilyfun9356 5 років тому +9

      @@crunch9876 its obvious the poker platform is in on it, prob have some type of contract where he keeps a % of the winnings and prob signed an NDA to keep quiet

    • @ggaccentc
      @ggaccentc 4 роки тому +2

      @@davebellafamilyfun9356 why would the casino want that type of risk?

    • @anti-apathy9715
      @anti-apathy9715 4 роки тому +4

      More likely someone was feeding him the cards on his ph in real time...i.e. 1. 7cQs, ('1' would be seat 1, etc.)

    • @Teabagonyou
      @Teabagonyou 4 роки тому +6

      @@ggaccentc It wasn’t the casino prodigy. It was an insider who worked there and had access to the feed. As to the why? Why do most people commit crime or illegal activities? Money. Whoever gave him access to the feed was obviously cutting the money up with him. How old are you? 🤦‍♂️

  • @4ourse7ens49
    @4ourse7ens49 5 років тому +14

    KEYS???: “But wait, there’s more! The manufacturers also offer a version that’s innocently disguised as a Volvo key fob. And if Volvo’s not your thing, they also offer a fake VW key fob. The only problem is it’s so tiny its small battery can only last a half hour, and it uses a surprising amount of power.”

    • @bromeliad6115
      @bromeliad6115 5 років тому

      Yes, follow the keys!

    • @ParissaKhoury
      @ParissaKhoury 5 років тому

      Unless you can prove these allegations in a court of law then you'd have a point but, until then keep your opinions separate from the facts.

    • @Whyducry
      @Whyducry 5 років тому

      Oh you’re copying and pasting I get it

  • @BangsarRia
    @BangsarRia 5 років тому +1

    Mike Postle 68o hand tweeted about by Ryan Feldman deconstructed:
    In the Production room, the Producer and the Graphics person see the live feed. Meanwhile, the Commentators in the booth are on a hand from 30 minutes ago on the Broadcast stream.
    When Postle raises, someone in the Production room starts freaking out because no-one would ever make that play with those cards. When T-Bone folds, Mike can muck and no-one will ever actually see the 86o. The hole cards graphic is quickly changed (to 9s8s for a Str8 Flush draw) in that small time window of opportunity before the next hand is dealt - after which the hole cards can no longer be changed in the video.
    But if the RFID had read the hole cards wrong, no-one could possibly have ever known until at least 30 minutes later, if and when Postle saw the Broadcast and noticed it.
    Some number of minutes after the hand, someone goes into the Booth while the hand is being commentated to tell them the graphics are wrong.
    The implication is that there is a coverup, and that it was done by someone other than Postle, in the Production Room.

  • @novylova1707
    @novylova1707 5 років тому +20

    he use brand new solver called RFID

  • @frawdulent
    @frawdulent 4 місяці тому

    I rewatched Joey’s investigation livestreams every year since this happened. It’s fascinating how NO ONE noticed.

  • @moedanglez
    @moedanglez 5 років тому +40

    You Doug your own grave, Postle

  • @mikeday5776
    @mikeday5776 3 роки тому +7

    As to the hat, I’m particularly deaf and bone conduction, how I’m listening to you, is a speaker driver that sends vibrations through the bone into the inner ear. The sound is crystal clear.

    • @BoleDaPole
      @BoleDaPole 3 роки тому

      You're telling me he got surgery just to cheat at Stones??

    • @caboose2741
      @caboose2741 3 роки тому +2

      @@BoleDaPole you don't need surgery for bone conduction.

  • @mariodefoy4174
    @mariodefoy4174 5 років тому +6

    You know Postle is a cheater just looking at the emotions. Smiling on an allin bet with marginal hands....
    He shows no fears or no stress. Thats not possible!
    You guys are bang on with your analysis!
    Thank you for doing this for the poker community!
    You guys are the best!
    Always nice to hear what you have to say about poker.

  • @AndyofSmeg
    @AndyofSmeg 5 років тому +11

    The table system that reads the cards is somehow being sent to his phones. Simples

    • @V3GAS4CE
      @V3GAS4CE 5 років тому

      There are rfid apps for free on the app store, but why would you need a free one, when you can make 250K from using one. Simply intercept the signal, determine what a player is betting with from the information and bet accordingly. Programming these days you could write code to another device which vibrates determined on the best value action. Along with an insider which could make these even simpler.

  • @Jarlzdotorg
    @Jarlzdotorg 5 років тому +28

    Did anyone check the parking lot? Is he driving a DeLorean?

    • @pabis6817
      @pabis6817 5 років тому +3

      Yep and a copy of the sports almanac in the passenger seat.

  • @joeljoeljoel
    @joeljoeljoel 5 років тому +2

    29:00 He'd just need to hack the card display system. Lots easier than hacking the RFID itself. Someone with the same RFID system should demo how easy it is to hack and cheat.

  • @hhoust1
    @hhoust1 5 років тому +22

    Wouldn’t trust their 2nd internal investigation after what happened the first time. Everyone who lost money to mike (or even everyone who played against him) should launch a lawsuit against stones/Mike. The only way to get justice is through a 3rd party investigation. And as much as I love what Joey and Doug are doing, they don’t have the authority to access things like phone records/ video recordings that would be necessary for hard evidence. That being said S/O Joey and Doug and all the other pros who are doing everything they can to take this guy down

    • @Yo-ce3ix
      @Yo-ce3ix 5 років тому

      Houston Howie if they take it to civil court (all they can do, mike can’t be charged with any crime) if he is found guilty you don’t need to pay the other people in civil .. if you know the law you would know that

    • @hhoust1
      @hhoust1 5 років тому

      @@Yo-ce3ix if you have a class action lawsuit and the person/company is found guilty they would have to pay back the money

    • @williampisano7573
      @williampisano7573 5 років тому

      its could the voice of GOD the military used just look up "VOICE OF GOD MILITARY " or DARPA
      in google please leave a LIKE and tell Joey and Doug. bec i dont have there numbers DM him also

    • @resiack
      @resiack 5 років тому

      @@williampisano7573 You're joking right?

    • @kaiseremotion854
      @kaiseremotion854 5 років тому

      @@Yo-ce3ix actually yes he can afterwards. If we go back in time to the oj trial(lets not get started on details) but he was found not guilty in criminal court but guilty in civil. Because civil and criminal have different points to get to. Civil is 51% criminal is very close to 100%(though nothing is 100%). He can also be tried in state and federal court separately depending on things.

  • @123Mathzak
    @123Mathzak 5 років тому +12

    “You cant have one leak or the whole sink ships”
    - Doug Polk 2019
    34:10

    • @Ross-ch9vv
      @Ross-ch9vv 5 років тому +1

      Motto of a shitty sink manufacturer

    • @sharpshooter147
      @sharpshooter147 5 років тому

      He has a couple of drinks before recording I know this cos im living in his cupboard shhhhh don't tell him

    • @alfawoof1
      @alfawoof1 5 років тому +2

      He didn't say "whole", he said "hole". Holes, do sink ships.

    • @123Mathzak
      @123Mathzak 5 років тому

      alfawoof1 You right

  • @jaydengreensill9467
    @jaydengreensill9467 5 років тому +51

    Dude looks how I imagine I looked cheating in my grade 10 math test

    • @360flip19
      @360flip19 5 років тому +2

      lol so on point.

    • @gustavoc6812
      @gustavoc6812 5 років тому +2

      Exactly 🤣🤣🤣

    • @ParissaKhoury
      @ParissaKhoury 5 років тому

      Unless you can prove these allegations in a court of law then you'd have a point but, until then keep your opinions separate from the facts.

    • @360flip19
      @360flip19 5 років тому +2

      @@ParissaKhoury lol!?

    • @ParissaKhoury
      @ParissaKhoury 5 років тому +3

      @rj doggman Call me Mr Postle

  • @Investorpotamus
    @Investorpotamus 5 років тому +41

    I hope he goes to prison and someone gets it all in regularly.

  • @williammcpherson6086
    @williammcpherson6086 5 років тому +9

    Mr Commentator, how did you know the cards were wrong?

  • @mlkpsu
    @mlkpsu 5 років тому +20

    Simple solution, don’t play at Stones.

    • @ziggle5000
      @ziggle5000 5 років тому +5

      lol Jay, you're clueless

    • @MK-13337
      @MK-13337 4 роки тому

      @Jay D 54o against AK AK is about 45% to win the pot. You need 33% equity to break even on a call. If either one of your opponents has any pocket pair higher than a 5 you are drawing to about 10%. Nobody that knows anything about poker could justify calling a shove and a call with 54o. That's just lighting money on fire, unless you are specifically against AK AK

  • @jasonli5024
    @jasonli5024 5 років тому +6

    Thank you, Joey! Keep up the great job you are doing!!!

  • @menace1tb
    @menace1tb 3 роки тому +1

    It's amazing when Doug ran how many big blinds he's winning (41:00) and what a normal poker player runs. It shows how much the pros look into things and the knowledge of everything they have.

  • @1LiuKang1
    @1LiuKang1 5 років тому +21

    I love Joe Ingram, the guy cracks me up man. Just seeing him. nice energy.

    • @GaryMillyz
      @GaryMillyz 5 років тому

      It's called Crack.

    • @Antyvas
      @Antyvas 5 років тому

      @@GaryMillyz I WANTS ME SUM DAT SNAP CRACKLE AND CORN POP

  • @TheGeneral_LUFC
    @TheGeneral_LUFC 5 років тому +11

    bring Postle to LATB and see how he gets on. if he runs like he has he's a GOD

  • @Nash9r
    @Nash9r 5 років тому +30

    I mean, how dumb are these guys? If you'd done this more subtle, they could have come through with this. But greed got the better of them fortunately, I'd guess.

    • @blakegibson674
      @blakegibson674 5 років тому +14

      To me this is the spookiest part. If someone with half a brain was doing this it could be super hard to bust them even over a long period of time. Play a normal balanced strategy with some minor variations and you could just print infinitely.

    • @DarrenSemotiuk
      @DarrenSemotiuk 5 років тому +3

      POTRIPPER made the same mistake

    • @RobertS122
      @RobertS122 5 років тому +7

      Someone on production is in on this guaranteed. They even have graphics they overlay on the show to make light of this fucking rigged game. He's getting rfid info on his phone from somewhere. Either his phone is capturing it from the table or someone is sending it to him from the production booth.

    • @2011blueman
      @2011blueman 5 років тому +1

      People that cheat like this always get caught because they get too greedy. People don't scam to the point where it's plausible and stop, they always cheat to get the most money which inevitability gets them noticed and caught.

    • @ReedP
      @ReedP 5 років тому

      @@2011blueman It's nice to believe that's true, but how can you know if they haven't got caught? I agree with Blake it's fucking spooky, and sadly it's probably going to make people very skeptical of playing on any stream, even ones that are most likely completely Up & Up like LATB.

  • @postforums6801
    @postforums6801 5 років тому +6

    46:00 I don't think you Trust his Self Righteous RFID.

  • @leclubber
    @leclubber 5 років тому +16

    As soon as I saw Doug with sleeves and Joey wearing a suit, I knew they weren't here for the giveaway.

  • @mattiogaming6075
    @mattiogaming6075 5 років тому

    Thank you both for the great video!

  • @travisobryan8460
    @travisobryan8460 5 років тому +7

    There is 100% something under his hat. Also in the clip when someone is behind him unexpectedly, he quickly looks back at him and then checks the left side of his hat as if he was worried he was caught...

    • @tomojobs
      @tomojobs 5 років тому +10

      timestamp ffs

    • @travisobryan8460
      @travisobryan8460 5 років тому

      @James Tyler did you see the pic where it fits snug and nicely over the ear? I don't think there is a smoking gun yet though so I agree with you there. It's more like a ton of pieces of circumstantial evidence.

    • @colinpetersen1173
      @colinpetersen1173 5 років тому

      @James Tyler you made multiple comments on Veronica's videos criticising her for raising the issue...and now you're in Doug's comments saying just you happen to own the same hat as Mike.

    • @sciencenate
      @sciencenate 5 років тому +3

      James Tyler I’m sorry ubderarmour is so important in your life... consolations

    • @thetimeisnow9236
      @thetimeisnow9236 5 років тому

      James Tyler... Damn, you know the known facts about when someone speaks bad about others? That person is speaking about themselves. People like yourself are already dead. I feel bad for your family, I only could imagine the abuse they take from you. Oh and I must say UA hats fit great 😝.

  • @manifestyourlife6
    @manifestyourlife6 5 років тому +5

    Feldman's point is one of the most damning against Mike/Stones, I'm curious what their defense will be if this is brought up in the investigation?

    • @MrJamberee
      @MrJamberee 4 роки тому

      Unless somebody admits guilt, this is going to be a all about math and expert testimony for both sides. It is likely that a civil case will result in a large judgement against Stones and Postle. Of course, a plea deal by somebody would be the end

  • @guybrushthreepwood8174
    @guybrushthreepwood8174 5 років тому +4

    Thank you for not being in the same room sitting next to each other with shoulders touching.

  • @lastform3871
    @lastform3871 5 років тому

    @doug at 52:37 notice Mikes hat above his ear. Isn’t it oddly thicker right there? Seems like there might be some kind of sensor or something built into his hat

  • @MrPezdispencer
    @MrPezdispencer 5 років тому +11

    Man does it suck when the whole sink ships.

    • @jeffjarjoura219
      @jeffjarjoura219 5 років тому

      He mentioned a "hole" in the context of someone could have leaked information. "The HOLE sinks ships." Not "whole."

  • @ErizotDread
    @ErizotDread 5 років тому +1

    This was amazingly riveting for a 2 hour video! Nice job, guys!

    • @peterandersen6050
      @peterandersen6050 2 роки тому

      54:50 to 55:10 agree it's disgusting how they make fun of STEALING PEOPLE'S MONEY, this place should CLOSE and they should pay people their Money-back and all the Guilty should be in PRISON

  • @dkastil
    @dkastil 5 років тому +9

    It’s elementary,,,,, he stuffs tinfoil in his hat 🎩 to protect from mind readers .

  • @johnywaters6791
    @johnywaters6791 5 років тому +3

    Say Everyone who lost money against Mike Postle end up getting there money back but you don’t know if that person was tilted because MIKE bluffed him on a pot and that player was effected by it and later that made that person second guess their own decision making and abilities which later play a role which they end up misplaying or folding a big hand whether it be on that stream or later that day off stream!

  • @catchingdirtysouthjersey4581
    @catchingdirtysouthjersey4581 5 років тому +30

    34:13 “the whole sink ships”lol

    • @vasildyulgerov795
      @vasildyulgerov795 5 років тому

      In PTO sinks ship some % of the time

    • @guerro327
      @guerro327 5 років тому

      The hole sinks the ship

    • @tomcads1604
      @tomcads1604 5 років тому

      In sovjet in Russia ...

    • @pastramisalami
      @pastramisalami 5 років тому

      the sink ships it in, the toilet folds, and bathtub calls.

  • @jgeorgiou3307
    @jgeorgiou3307 5 років тому +1

    I have the perfect solution to this problem.
    Why not show the stream on a delay (let's say 10min) and even more fundamental is don't read the hole cards until after they are folded.
    This won't affect the stream viewers because by the time the hand is streamed the hole card graphics can show their face value because they have actually been read and folded.

  • @halcyonataractic8623
    @halcyonataractic8623 5 років тому +4

    I love it when Doug smiles. 😁

  • @kristersbukss3332
    @kristersbukss3332 5 років тому +2

    1:25:12 left side image, exact brand hat what Mike Postle use

  • @tinkertime577
    @tinkertime577 5 років тому +3

    Honestly who thinks that WHEN mike is CONvicted, anyone who can show that they lost to mIkE gets one free punch?

  • @k2jonathan
    @k2jonathan 2 роки тому

    Really enjoyed this combo analysis from Joey and Doug. Laughed almost the whole time. Thanks guys!

  • @67steinip
    @67steinip 5 років тому +18

    "The whole sink ships -Polk" 😁😁

  • @aarongn8083
    @aarongn8083 5 років тому +1

    the bit at 44:28 is so solid and has me sold, good catch

  • @ryangi5
    @ryangi5 5 років тому +4

    Guys, this isn’t hard. The JFKDork was feeding him the hole cards through Mike’s phone and the bone conduction speaker in his hat. (The bone conduction speaker is about as clear as in-ear headphones, but nothing goes into your ear.)

    • @abpanda1596
      @abpanda1596 5 років тому +1

      Can you show an example of this bone conduction speakers?

    • @matthewmccarthy4152
      @matthewmccarthy4152 5 років тому

      @@abpanda1596 1:25:00 mark

    • @babochee
      @babochee 5 років тому

      @@abpanda1596 You see it sticking out pretty well on our right side of his head. ua-cam.com/video/VuBerIx8e1M/v-deo.html

    • @ryangi5
      @ryangi5 5 років тому

      @@abpanda1596 They come in various forms, but here's one example of bone conduction headphones (ua-cam.com/video/rCqisXxtego/v-deo.html). I first read about them in the book "No Easy Day." After reading in that book that Seal Team 6 uses bone conduction headphones as part of their communication system, I was intrigued enough that I bought some. Rather than go in your ear, they vibrate against the bones in your head and transmit sound to your ear that way. An advantage for joggers is that your ears are open so that you can hear other noises, such as cars. I'm guessing that Seals use them so they can wear ear protection so they don't get ear damage from shooting (especially in doors), but the can still hear their radio comms.

  • @PoppysGuitar
    @PoppysGuitar 5 років тому +1

    Doug's question about why 1/3 is so on point. Frankly it's like a guy with a 98 mph fastball playing ball with the local single A team.

  • @dedeh7l
    @dedeh7l 5 років тому +8

    "Hold the Phone with your left hand. If the Phone vibrates one time, you fold. two times, call. three times, raise and so on" . Dont need to have a very elaborated plan to cheat if you have a partner behind the cameras with a cellphone.

    • @jamesdeppeler793
      @jamesdeppeler793 5 років тому +1

      Yeah he looks at it though. And that would make noise other people can hear.

    • @chrisentolentino1325
      @chrisentolentino1325 5 років тому

      Wow ur a God!

    • @apealeal3973
      @apealeal3973 5 років тому +1

      I bought my girlfriend a portable vibrater that connects to my phone through bluetooth. We have the same code. Your assessment is very possible.

  • @MrNumbers446
    @MrNumbers446 5 років тому +1

    this is the best video i have ever seen,lolllllll you guys are amazing together

  • @Jon-dragonwolf
    @Jon-dragonwolf 5 років тому +5

    One could prove it by hacking the feed to mikes phone and giving him false rfid info.....

  • @PrSndreLrsn
    @PrSndreLrsn 5 років тому

    @1:13:00 is it not possible they record commentary live, then publish it on delay?

  • @enlichvini4255
    @enlichvini4255 5 років тому +4

    if he had the nuts. Why it took him so long to call with 89?

  • @Nick-mb7wc
    @Nick-mb7wc 5 років тому +2

    Mike 'Cyborg' Postle is actually a new age poker bot sent from the future. The 600 series bot had rubber skin and we spotted those easily. But these are new, they look human. Sweat, bad breath, everything. Very hard to spot. We had to wait til he played these streams before we could zero him :)

  • @ThomasShue
    @ThomasShue 5 років тому +4

    There has to be a dual feed. Like a tiny wifi that's sending the live feed to a 3rd party who can see the feed live. Then an app was built to transmit the raw data to his cell phone so he knows how to play in the hands that he plays.

  • @scottnelson5636
    @scottnelson5636 5 років тому +1

    pity we cant get access to his phone data stream

  • @joevorachack3791
    @joevorachack3791 5 років тому +6

    Doc Holliday will had shot him down at the poker table.

  • @exalted1966
    @exalted1966 5 років тому

    Graphics error hand is at 1:41 08 streamed on oct 1 //// of a 5:01 hour stream review.....

    • @exalted1966
      @exalted1966 5 років тому

      how did 8 diamond and 6 clubs change... both were wrong... how did they know live... something very fishy

    • @kfang864
      @kfang864 4 роки тому

      @@exalted1966 This has been proven to be entirely possible. Just read up the articles about Andrew Milner, the creator of the software and also Bart Hanson has a post about this. Bart confirmed that graphic errors were prevalent on the stream. This theory has completely been debunked which is why no on talks about it anymore but it was thought to be the smoking gun, a narrative pushed by Ryan Feldman and Matt Berkey.

  • @funnellw
    @funnellw 5 років тому +15

    Why do I feel like Doug’s the dad Joey never had?

    • @Welcome2Niches
      @Welcome2Niches 5 років тому

      Several times in my head I hear "SON" and then something along the lines of ",without the God comment"/"the God comments is not necessary." Doug was rly bothered with any mention of the word God. Is this a thing where he's afraid of UA-cam coming at him or some Bible Thumping nut job coming after him?

    • @Welcome2Niches
      @Welcome2Niches 4 роки тому

      @Craig Laycox I just saw this but I am so confused on many levels. Why come at me over THAT question? The name is a nickname I've had from counter strike back in 2007. So besides the odd reason to go after me bc of my youtube name.. lol sorry that is just... anyways, are you saying I am a Christian that believes in God or are you saying I am not? I honestly don't know from your comment. For the record I am not. Not religious at all. Just thought it was funny how Doug kept saying that.

    • @Welcome2Niches
      @Welcome2Niches 4 роки тому

      @Alien Intention who is seeking validation and approval?

    • @Welcome2Niches
      @Welcome2Niches 4 роки тому

      @Alien Intention do you not see a video and laugh and type your comment out? I don't know anyone on here nor am I part of the poker community. The jumps you made in your comment just.. they are massive and I am so confused on how you got there. I am not going to personally attack you though. I honestly thought that it was funny Doug kept saying that. Nothing more, nothing less. I am obviously "feeding the trolls" but it still is odd the way you came at this if I am reading what you said correctly.

  • @DSW_314
    @DSW_314 3 роки тому

    HERE'S THE SMOKING GUN. 💨
    ua-cam.com/video/M6yLN32LpGQ/v-deo.html
    At 3:01 Mike Postle informs the player to his left that his cards didn't show up on the RFID scanner, and asks him to put his cards on the scanner again, BEFORE the Dealer says anything. How the hell would he know that? Why the hell would he care? This example clearly demonstrates that Postle has real-time access to the card data, and also proves that the Dealer is complicit and incompetent. A comment like that would've set off plenty of alarms at any legit casino or professional poker tournament.

  • @ww2079
    @ww2079 4 роки тому +3

    How bad at cheating could you be? Why would this spot even be a consideration? Just use it to help make good decisions instead of crazy moves and he would have never been caught.

  • @SmokeRingsPipeDreams
    @SmokeRingsPipeDreams 5 років тому

    The MOST damning thing is that when he (postle) has an important decision to make (and he needs information) he should be looking at the other players, but instead his attention is on his phone. (it's obvious that's where he's getting his information to make moves)

  • @raven1538
    @raven1538 5 років тому +3

    This is what this guy could be using to cheat at poker. Cynaps Assist: Assistive Listening via Bone Conduction

  • @angelasouth9007
    @angelasouth9007 3 роки тому +1

    Doug Polk ur actually ur a really nice guy ... iv found ur talks very insightful.. iv been playing poker for years now and played in some really sceptical game looking back over my poker life .. ty for making me a better player .

  • @ryangi5
    @ryangi5 5 років тому +3

    Here’s another problem with “the graphics are wrong,” excuse. The RFID reader got it wrong for not one, but TWO cards in one hand. When you consider that, in addition to all of the other reasons they point out, that excuse is evidence of cheating. The guy who said, “I talked with Mike and he said I had 8s9s,” is 100% in on it! He felt the need to change it because it was too obvious.

  • @bradhartliep879
    @bradhartliep879 4 роки тому +1

    The fact that the cards change PROVES Mike is not working alone .. it proves somebody on the Crew is involved ..

  • @roneyjohnny
    @roneyjohnny 5 років тому +6

    Rfid's in the cards makes me think anybody could cheat

    • @jamesdeppeler793
      @jamesdeppeler793 5 років тому

      Yeah it's just a bad system.
      Cameras are safer. The system is harder to compromise, you gotta compromise people rather than hacking the system itself.

    • @resiack
      @resiack 5 років тому

      @@jamesdeppeler793 cameras are just as hackable. The images from the camera have to be sent to a computer and can be intercepted.

  • @deanbayasen8362
    @deanbayasen8362 5 років тому +2

    So if I was player in any of those sessions he was on and I have lost I can sue the casino for my loses?

    • @kaiseremotion854
      @kaiseremotion854 5 років тому

      You can theoretically sue him, sue the casino, and sue every single person who knew.

    • @MrJamberee
      @MrJamberee 4 роки тому

      There is a lawsuit filed. I believe all persons who have a claim can join the lawsuit.