The Mysterious Case of John Lennon’s Patek 2499

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  • Опубліковано 19 чер 2024
  • For his 40th Birthday John Lennon was given a Patek Philippe 2499 by Yoko Ono. The December after his birthday, John Lennon was murdered, and the fate of the watch was unknown. This video traces its whereabouts! “The Case of the Purloined Patek!"
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  • @HRM.H
    @HRM.H Місяць тому +4

    I think the George Daniels Springcase Tourbillion is worth a video of its own. Such a special piece made by a legendary watchmaker.

    • @watchartsci
      @watchartsci  Місяць тому +1

      That is a special watch HRM. It would be days of research to do right. Jeeeze, you make it difficult to be watch pundit! Take care, Bill

  • @donculp9094
    @donculp9094 Місяць тому +2

    WOW ! What a story. I had no idea about about this 2499. Thanks Bill.

    • @watchartsci
      @watchartsci  Місяць тому

      Like you Don, it was a new story (and watch!) to me as well. Take care, Bill

  • @HRM.H
    @HRM.H Місяць тому +3

    Incredible story behind some of these watches, its another reason i love buying preowned! You never know what life they have lived before you

    • @watchartsci
      @watchartsci  Місяць тому +1

      Funny HRM, you have a point, but once I get a watch, I never think of who might have had it before-a saint or a demon? I just hope they took good care of the watch. Take care, Bill.

  • @clydemills7088
    @clydemills7088 Місяць тому +2

    Great story Bill. I really enjoyed all the detail. That watch would sell at auction for over 5 million easy.

    • @watchartsci
      @watchartsci  Місяць тому

      The "celebrity" premium can get nuts...especially on top of a watch like the 2499. Take care, Bill

  • @user-km1cf1gs8x
    @user-km1cf1gs8x Місяць тому

    Swiss Courts of Appeal .
    Working at Glacial speed .
    She’s not getting any younger , you know .
    Thanks for keeping this story fresh in
    Eyes of Watch Collectors .
    It would marvelous if this returns to Yoko Ono ❤
    That would be a Beautiful , Timely Justice ✌️

  • @Javi_C
    @Javi_C Місяць тому

    Thanks for sharing the story Dr.!

    • @watchartsci
      @watchartsci  Місяць тому +1

      My pleasure Javi! Take care, Bill

  • @charleslyall4911
    @charleslyall4911 Місяць тому

    Great story Bill thanks 👍❤️🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿

  • @xpdchief7698
    @xpdchief7698 Місяць тому +1

    Great video, and story Bill. You are the modern day Rod Serling, because that story is straight out of the Twilight Zone
    Betst regards, Brian

    • @watchartsci
      @watchartsci  Місяць тому +1

      My work coordinating Lyrique has put me in a horological Twilight Zone, Brian. Did you get your notice your watch is on the way? Take care, Bill

    • @xpdchief7698
      @xpdchief7698 Місяць тому

      @watchartsci Yes I did, thank you. It's scheduled to arrive sometime on Monday.

  • @dominickcolasanto6582
    @dominickcolasanto6582 Місяць тому +1

    Hello Bill Fantastic and intriguing watch story! The Patek 2499 is such a desirable piece in itself, and then you add JL etc. at autction with all the stars aligned my guess 15-20 million watch especially if the proceeds going to a good charity just my guess. Great video cant wait for the conclusion.

    • @watchartsci
      @watchartsci  Місяць тому +1

      Hey Dom, thanks man. I do wonder what will happen with it eventually-she's 91 now (...finally someone older than I am...) and so the final fate of the watch may end up with the inheritor's decision. Take care, Bill

  • @idletime
    @idletime Місяць тому

    Thanks for the story & G'evening Mr Bill 🤠 .

    • @watchartsci
      @watchartsci  Місяць тому +1

      Hey IdleTime! If it's evening, it's a bedtime story! Take care, Bill

  • @davidfulginiti5985
    @davidfulginiti5985 Місяць тому +1

    loved the story----------------what's the value without John Lennon provenance? thanks Bill

    • @watchartsci
      @watchartsci  Місяць тому +1

      Thank David-the 2499 seems to start around $130k with no celebrity ownership. Out of my range! Take care, Bill

  • @drbobsnightmare2521
    @drbobsnightmare2521 Місяць тому

    I missed the live Bill, sorry I was taking a nap.

    • @watchartsci
      @watchartsci  Місяць тому

      Hey Dr. Bob, my live chats have been known to induce naps...so you may have just been early. Take care, Bill

  • @PerryPapanier
    @PerryPapanier Місяць тому +1

    Paul Newman's Daytona was so well known even before it came up for auction. So don't see how this would come close to it.

    • @cesarrocha3138
      @cesarrocha3138 Місяць тому +1

      Some estimate this can be 5x higher

    • @PerryPapanier
      @PerryPapanier Місяць тому

      Guess for now, we will never know. Doing the math $75M. No way

    • @watchartsci
      @watchartsci  Місяць тому +1

      Perry, the Beatles are far better known than Paul Newman; so you never know how much someone is willing to pay for a watch, especially one so much better than a Daytona. Take care, Bill

    • @PerryPapanier
      @PerryPapanier Місяць тому

      @watchartsci my point is no one equates expensive watches to Lennon. So regardless how popular he still might be, it will limit the appeal. But who knows n maybe one day we will find out.

  • @jonnieinbangkok
    @jonnieinbangkok Місяць тому +1

    So does this "Mr. A" still have physical posession of the watch, or has it been deposited with the court?

    • @watchartsci
      @watchartsci  Місяць тому

      I believe it is in the custody of Mr. A's attorney until the appeal is complete, Jonnie. Take care, Bill

    • @jonnieinbangkok
      @jonnieinbangkok Місяць тому

      @@watchartsci Thank you.

  • @StanfordFan-jn1dp
    @StanfordFan-jn1dp Місяць тому

    The value of the watch is between $20 million - $70 million given by Jay Fielden in his June 24, 2024 New Yorker Magazine story about the watch

  • @jerrybonnet7356
    @jerrybonnet7356 Місяць тому

    Saw that story in my New Yorker and thought: I know someone who'll love that story!

    • @watchartsci
      @watchartsci  Місяць тому +1

      Yes, Jerry, that's where I got it from. It's the only subscription that we have (...other than the Sunday NYT). Take care, Bill

  • @relsanat7872
    @relsanat7872 Місяць тому

    great story, Bill. Been away for a while - nice to see you again

    • @watchartsci
      @watchartsci  Місяць тому

      Welcome back Rel! Take care, Bill

  • @mikewinston8709
    @mikewinston8709 Місяць тому +10

    John Lennon; the ultimate champagne socialist….he loved working class Liverpool so much that he decamped to Manhattan….🤣🤣….🇬🇧

    • @lararob4673
      @lararob4673 Місяць тому +1

      Agree, love their contradictions.

    • @richardsims3847
      @richardsims3847 Місяць тому +1

      "Imagine no possesions" when a whole floor of their hotel used for fur coat storage.

    • @watchartsci
      @watchartsci  Місяць тому +4

      Never paid much attention to the Beatles (or any other musician's) politics-just their watches Mike. Take care, Bill

    • @ctdavis3277
      @ctdavis3277 Місяць тому +3

      Rich people don’t bother me, rich people using their money to buy undue influence over public policy to protect their gains at the expense of the common good bothers me. Flaunt your wealth all you want, just don’t buy my representation in government out from under me or we’re gonna have a problem.

    • @mikewinston8709
      @mikewinston8709 Місяць тому

      @@ctdavis3277 Hugely amusing comment. I’m sure you’re terribly angry/annoyed/concerned about something obviously very political…..I wish I could help you….🤣…🇬🇧

  • @gynechiatrist
    @gynechiatrist Місяць тому

    I think easily £500,000 in a wide open auction.

    • @watchartsci
      @watchartsci  Місяць тому

      Gynechiatrist, wouldn't it be more like £5,000,000? Take care, Bill

  • @booijdesign
    @booijdesign Місяць тому +1

    im a big fan of the Beatles, ive seen paul in a secret concert in paris. Great story. Can u do one on Jay-z or John Mayer. I think 2 popular videos

    • @watchartsci
      @watchartsci  Місяць тому

      Hi Bobbe, thanks man! I do mainly watches-this was just an interesting watch story. The drummer in KISS I believe is a big collector too. Take care, Bill

  • @richardsims3847
    @richardsims3847 Місяць тому +1

    Nice summer "titfa" Bill.Stay cool unlike Mr Lennon who was quite a nasty piece of work.

    • @watchartsci
      @watchartsci  Місяць тому

      My titfa tat is my summer lid, Richard.😎 Glad you like it. Take care, Bill