Are OMEGA Watches Worth It Anymore?

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  • OMEGA watches are a big part of the watch collecting community. Though, with the increase in retail prices, are OMEGA watches worth it anymore? In this video I cover OMEGA brand perception, movements, reliability, feeling, and price retention.
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  • @docfluty
    @docfluty 8 днів тому +55

    I have bought 4 Omegas new the last 3 years or so. I really enjoy the brand and think they are rock solid watches.

    • @johnd-xd9sn
      @johnd-xd9sn 8 днів тому +3

      Agreed 100%

    • @killingtime8612
      @killingtime8612 8 днів тому +6

      I would love to buy and Omega. Do you think the De Ville Prestige is tough enough to wear daily in the office?

    • @TheJlrc07
      @TheJlrc07 8 днів тому +1

      True True and True

    • @erikiverson1762
      @erikiverson1762 7 днів тому +1

      nice! which ones?

    • @toneswinger
      @toneswinger 7 днів тому

      ​​@@killingtime8612yes I have one and get it on a bracelet

  • @TheLute70
    @TheLute70 8 днів тому +31

    I own a Seamaster Pro and a Seamaster Aqua Terra (Olive dial). Both keep great time. I get compliments on the Aqua Terra all the time about how nice it is. Contrast that to my Rolex the comments are, "is that a Rolex" and not that it looks great. Go figure. Just my two cents.

    • @fj7509
      @fj7509 8 днів тому +2

      Another comment where someone can only mention Omega by bringing up Rolex lol.

  • @alexpiptom
    @alexpiptom 8 днів тому +91

    The problem is they are driving prices too high and have way too many variations of each watch. The whole collection is a mess.

    • @nedflanders3769
      @nedflanders3769 8 днів тому +12

      Valid points. Pretty much all brands are raising prices, due to lots of factors, like John mentioned. But Omega definitely needs to streamline their collections. They just have way too many models. I’m an Omega fanboy. They’re in my top 3 favorite brands. I want them to do well. 😊

    • @exploretheinternet2334
      @exploretheinternet2334 8 днів тому +5

      Man, don't parrot other people.
      Yes! they have a lot of variants but i remember seeing about 250+ something models of AT on omega's website. Now, they have about half of that.
      In terms of price, everything costs more than it used to 5 years ago. It's called INFLATION. It's not subjected to omega only but every major watch brand.

    • @drnick40
      @drnick40 8 днів тому +3

      The way I look at Omega is a value priced high quality pre owned watches. I never buy new!

    • @Arseization
      @Arseization 8 днів тому

      ​​​​@@exploretheinternet2334 Other Brands increased prices, yes but not nearly as much as Omega did.
      The other problem for Omega is Tudor, they price their watches very, very reasonable especially now being Metas certified and with the added hype they get from Rolex fans or customers unable to get one.
      Not the best environment to be increasing prices. Now one can argue that Tudor does not compete with Omega, quality wise which is true, but the reality is that the targeting audience mostly decides between Omega or Tudor not Rolex or Omega.
      Don't get me wrong, I love Omega but their practises seem paradox - you cannot expect people to consider your brand as luxury when you do stuff like swatch collaborations to appeal to a wider audience which ultimatetly means accessibility.

    • @Lee-pf2uv
      @Lee-pf2uv 8 днів тому +1

      Doesnt matter really.
      If you only want one or two watches who cares what the rest of the collection looks like.
      Price you can go used.

  • @ReadyAimFire_
    @ReadyAimFire_ 8 днів тому +6

    Problems of Omega:
    - too expensive for what it offers, cant compete in value/cost category any more (imo Tudor wins here), and its hard to compete against Rolex or Cartier that cost similarly
    - catalog is a mess (too many models, you can get a headache)
    - too thick watches, and meh bracelets.

  • @Redshift42
    @Redshift42 8 днів тому +16

    Bought a lightly used (18 month old) 41mm Aqua Terra a few months ago private party at a very good discount from retail. I've worn it just about every day since and my other watches are feeling lonely. Well made, looks great, very versatile and makes me happy to look at. I would say I'm happy with the "value for money" but that concept is relative in this hobby.

    • @Widemouth1832
      @Widemouth1832 8 днів тому +3

      My good friend has one and it's his go to short sleeve shirt watch. Looks great with Peter Millar polos. Every time I see it I want one.

    • @user-mk3ni4rg1l
      @user-mk3ni4rg1l 8 днів тому +2

      Best watch you can get second hand fullstop

  • @christophermblanton
    @christophermblanton 8 днів тому +13

    Great video, as per usual. Don't have any Omegas in my collection just yet, but really like what they're doing as a whole.

  • @MrGMT1992
    @MrGMT1992 8 днів тому +7

    It is wild how high prices are getting. I really want to get that tan aqua terra. 18 months ago was a little over 4 grand. Now it's over 6k. For a time only and date watch. With a fabric strap. Cmmmmmmmmon

    • @SIZZO76
      @SIZZO76 3 дні тому

      Buy it now before price continues to go up😊 TREAT YOURSELF 😂😂😂😂😊😊😊

  • @evanc1974
    @evanc1974 8 днів тому +6

    Recently purchased a discontinued denim dial Railmaster at an unreal price. Couldnt be happier.

  • @josetula7716
    @josetula7716 8 днів тому +5

    I have 11 so far, ranging in date from the 1930's to 2022. I love them and like you I never pay retail. Also Longines is making some killer watches, I have a few of those and plan on getting a couple more.

    • @cosmodoc
      @cosmodoc 8 днів тому +2

      I have Longines from 1957 and it still runs at +2secs/day

    • @amolaliberta
      @amolaliberta 6 днів тому +1

      Ich finde Longines geht ein guter Weg was Design angeht

  • @SunsetSheen
    @SunsetSheen 6 днів тому +2

    The brand delivers amazing quality, but if you want one then just wait a bit and buy it on the gray market. I bought a brand new 2 tone Aqua Terra for 45% off retail. You can get pretty much any Omega model for around 30-45% off if you know where to look.

  • @kevinbarry9717
    @kevinbarry9717 7 днів тому +2

    A lot of people try and buy a Rolex,get treated awfully by an AD then buy an omega.

  • @brownmcpherson5724
    @brownmcpherson5724 8 днів тому +9

    I have 3 Omegas, 2 Rolex's and others in my collection. I didn't understand the comment about rough edges, etc. on Omega. All my Omega's feel better in the hand compared with my Rolex's.
    And the Rolex's are newer models including a GMT 126710GRNR. My newer Omegas, with the 8900 movement, both keep better time than my Rolex's. Even my older Seamaster with an ETA movement keeps time comparably to my Rolex's. The key with most Omega's is to buy pre-owned. I have a Ploprof I bought at the factory and it's still worth what I paid for it.

    • @Watch_for_me
      @Watch_for_me 8 днів тому

      This is the problem with Omega. Whenever you see a comment about one, it's always being compared to Rolex.
      As someone who has owned both, I have never head someone compare their Rolex to and Omega.

    • @brownmcpherson5724
      @brownmcpherson5724 8 днів тому

      @@Watch_for_me Good point. New comparison. My Omega's case finishing feels as good as my Vacheron Constantin Overseas.

    • @Watch_for_me
      @Watch_for_me 8 днів тому

      @@brownmcpherson5724 New Comparison. Philippe Dufour wears a Rolex Daytona as his daily watch and put himself on a waitlist for a GMT Master. Roger Smith wears a Rolex Explorer. Laurent Ferrier told interviewers that Rolex is the best watch brand below ten thousand dollars.
      When Rolex has the approval of the 3 greatest watchmakers of our generation, I'm not sure if we need to make any more comparisons.

    • @fj7509
      @fj7509 8 днів тому

      @@brownmcpherson5724 Philippe Dufour, Roger W Smith, and Laurent Ferrier all said Rolex is their favorite watch brand and the best money can buy. I'll gladly have the opinion of the best watchmakers in the world.

    • @firstnamelastname-ys3mz
      @firstnamelastname-ys3mz 8 днів тому

      Do you mean Rolexes?

  • @DecemberNames
    @DecemberNames 8 днів тому +3

    good stuff mate, thanks

  • @johnd-xd9sn
    @johnd-xd9sn 8 днів тому +3

    So glad to see the AT offered in a mechanical/automatic movement in "lady" size 34mm cases....with all the great features of the larger cases. Omega doing great things and their "Summer Blue" edition was amazing.

  • @zhan9207
    @zhan9207 8 днів тому +27

    I will only buy second hand Omega

    • @etebol
      @etebol 8 днів тому +2

      Only second hand any Swiss above $2k for me.

    • @SA17579
      @SA17579 8 днів тому +2

      Makes perfect sense. Same with other manufacturers.
      I will also not pay over msrp on the grey market.

    • @cunawarit
      @cunawarit 8 днів тому +1

      Absolutely the same for me.

  • @charleslyall4911
    @charleslyall4911 8 днів тому +3

    Great video, I had Rolexes and omegas and they all have sharp edges , but omega bang for buck is brilliant and nearly no waiting list and you don’t need to get on the ladder to order a watch ,thanks ❤️👍🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿

  • @TheJlrc07
    @TheJlrc07 8 днів тому +2

    Hello John, thanks for making this interesting video, I use to have Omegas, Breitling, Seiko and now I own a Longines Zulu time, don't get me wrong but Longines has taken the place of Omega back in the 2020 when Omega was still reachable, because of the value they offer and the finishing of their timepieces. If you ask me If I will like to own a Seamaster Aquaterra again and my answer is yes I will love to, but not at this current pricing. Anyway thanks again for making this video.

  • @lx95020
    @lx95020 8 днів тому +1

    I don't have an issue paying retail for an Omega AT especially if I am going to wear it every day.... the more you wear it the more bang-for-your-buck. I wouldn't buy a Rolex because of its resale value.....I'd buy it because it satisfies my wants and needs.

  • @emmanuelrodriguez5044
    @emmanuelrodriguez5044 8 днів тому +4

    I love omega, when you have them on hand you can tell the quality right away and I buy them second hand always

  • @pmguy9403
    @pmguy9403 8 днів тому +6

    The handsome devil is back! Thanks for another entertaining yet informative video! John P is the man!

  • @prwoland3750
    @prwoland3750 8 днів тому +1

    Great watches, no doubt. The only issue for me is that they are a bit generic, as are Rolexes but the difference is that only Rolex keeps value. Buying Omega has to be second hand - and in the same “value losing” category I’m personally more into Grand Seiko, which are at the same price point, less generic, even better finished and comparable movements. Just my taste, again Omega are watches you can keep for life.

  • @OmidSoltan
    @OmidSoltan 8 днів тому +8

    The biggest problem with the luxury perception in Omega is that they inundate their catalog with so many variations of the same model. Rolex doesn’t do that at least with their sports models.

    • @JohnPWatches
      @JohnPWatches  8 днів тому +1

      Good point

    • @TheSkatereel
      @TheSkatereel 8 днів тому +4

      And people complain Rolex is boring when they only release new dial colors every year. It’s done on purpose to keep the look of a Rolex immediately recognizable

    • @kokhui32liau88
      @kokhui32liau88 8 днів тому +1

      There nothing luxury of both brand, both r mess products, Rolex produce 1.3m watch a year n omega about 600-800k watch a year, they r at best lowest entry level to luxury..

    • @Lee-pf2uv
      @Lee-pf2uv 8 днів тому +4

      But what difference does that make if you only want say a Seamaster? Go into an AD or Boutique and buy the one that you like, who cares how many other variations there are. Doesnt matter to you if you are only buying one.

    • @MarkDanger777
      @MarkDanger777 8 днів тому

      ​@@kokhui32liau88luxury is something you don't need and buy it for thousands of dollars. Would you say LV bags aren't luxury items? You don't need an ap or a patek to be luxury...

  • @patrickdaep
    @patrickdaep 7 днів тому +1

    Omega is the only Luxury watch I can afford. They still have great watches for 6K like the Seamaster.

  • @leelifeson9150
    @leelifeson9150 8 днів тому +2

    Not everyone buys a watch to invest in! Personally I’d rather have a watch I like and not worry about the future value!

  • @wd99999
    @wd99999 7 днів тому +1

    I have owned pretty much everything, Sub, Daytona, Royal Oak, Nautilus and my favorite of all is my new ‘57 Speedy black dial. It’s just perfect

  • @AndrewIsbell
    @AndrewIsbell 8 днів тому

    I have 3 Omegas with 1120 or 2500 movement I bought preowned for good deals. You could do a whole video series on this. I'd love to see that.

  • @williamevans9426
    @williamevans9426 8 днів тому +1

    Why do GMT models from a number of brands seem to command a premium? Unless one is travelling internationally on a regular basis, the extra hand is just clutter. Even if one is a regular traveller, it's hardly difficult to add or subtract the appropriate hours or (heaven forbid) to actually adjust the main hour hand rather than the secondary one!

  • @giovannibucio
    @giovannibucio 7 днів тому +1

    i have the OMEGA SM300 pro sedna gold metal case blk ceramic dial i use everyday and the OMEGA planet ocean all gold 43.5mm blue ceramic dial gold clasp wen i go out to special events. my rich friend has 10 watches in his collection but in the middle of the box he has the OMEGA tourbillon platinum blue ceramic dial with diamonds everywere that was $715,000 limited next to his Jacob&Co. my wife has the red dial with sedna gold globemaster tells the months, but were very happy with omega.

  • @LDNgallery
    @LDNgallery 6 днів тому +1

    Just to note: I enquired at OMEGA store about how much trade in cost they would give for a one month old unworn Seamaster 300M. They said they would offer 1/3 of the price if I traded it in for another watch. That may help you understand the real value of the watches. Hence why initial resale value is so poor for OMEGA watches.

  • @clydemills7088
    @clydemills7088 8 днів тому +2

    I bought an Omega Aqua Terra Golf edition on the used market at a great price and the quality is definitely on par with my Rollie.

  • @cunawarit
    @cunawarit 8 днів тому +5

    Discussing the "bang for buck" aspect of watches can be quite complex. Only a portion of a watch's value is intrinsic, with a significant amount tied to non-intrinsic factors like brand perception, which often accounts for a large part of its appeal.
    Looking ahead, I believe Omega has a unique opportunity to differentiate itself by continuing to push the boundaries of horology. Many luxury watch brands focus on refining traditional mechanical movements, but Omega has a history of innovation and high accuracy quartz movements with models like the Spacemaster, Skywalker X-33, and the Seamaster 300M Quartz. Omega could position itself as a leader by excelling in both traditional mechanical watches and high-accuracy quartz movements, potentially competing with brands like Grand Seiko and Citizen in the realm of precision timekeeping. By mastering both, Omega can maintain its heritage while also standing out in the industry, becoming the sole Swiss watchmaker to truly master both and place equal emphasis in both.

    • @borassictime918
      @borassictime918 8 днів тому +1

      So, an Omega with an eg £6k MSRP; £1k is VAT. Of the remaining £5k, £2k is AD margin. Of the remaining £3k, around £2k pays for marketing (ambassadors eg Nicole Kidman, sponsorship eg Olympics, sailing, golf, etc., collaborations eg James Bond franchise, above-the-line and below-the-line advertising, promotions, websites, gin-palace boutiques, etc), of the remaining £1k probably half goes on fixed costs eg head office, regional and local offices, sales force, contribution to Swatch Group overheads, etc. Which leaves perhaps £500 for making the actual watch, box, papers, etc. Now these figures are approximate, but yeah you’re paying for far, far more than the actual cost of the watch.

    • @borassictime918
      @borassictime918 8 днів тому

      “Why would someone be looking at the specs and say “I’m going to buy the watch that has the best specs”, NO! There’s a lot of design, alot of feeling, there’s kinda brand associations…”. So, you buy an inferior product as you describe; eg nice to hold but the Omega’s bracelet pull you arm hair out, or the blingy 38mm Aquaterra poor bracelet construction, because…??? 🤔
      “In terms of price retention Omega out-performs most brands”? 🤔. Really? 40-60% loss you say?! And the problem with your Oris comparison is that a comparable Oris costs a third of the Omega price to start with, so in £ terms you will always lose more on a new £6k Omega than a new £2k Oris (that you’re also more likely to get a discount on). So, it only makes sense to buy an Omega secondhand? 🤔

    • @balazskertesz5010
      @balazskertesz5010 8 днів тому

      ​​@@borassictime918yes, but bought secondhand it's one of the best value brands you can get, which is the point of the video.

  • @tvo6453
    @tvo6453 8 днів тому +2

    Í have owned four Seamaster, all bought when a new Seamaster could be had for under $3k. After enjoying them for a couple years, I was able to resell them for the same amount I bought them for. Not sure if I can still do that now.

    • @zsb707
      @zsb707 6 днів тому

      No, you definitely can't do it now. You'd lose a lot.

  • @chairat.p
    @chairat.p 7 днів тому +1

    IMO, the more production of something like "MoonSwatch", the less value of "Omega".

  • @Johnp-ms9nm
    @Johnp-ms9nm 8 днів тому +1

    hey my name is also John P! Great channel

  • @MAELOB
    @MAELOB 8 днів тому +1

    As long as prices remain below Rolex and you can find them at the store they remain a great alternative. And at pre-owned they are a great deal.

  • @darrenaquilina1403
    @darrenaquilina1403 8 днів тому

    Great video, people need to start looking more at underdog brands which were overlooked till a couple of years ago. Case in point, Baume et Mercier is one of them. Same level of watchmaking as Omega, for 30-40% less for like with like watch-type, or pre owned can be bought for a bargain.

  • @rowluxillusion5235
    @rowluxillusion5235 8 днів тому +1

    I own many Omegas, they are superb watches, but I only buy used. When I say that, I mean nearly new 12-18 months old max. I think there is just not much to be gained from buying retail when you can buy a year old for a 40-50% discount - but the build quality is amazing. The only Omega I would buy retail is if they did a re-make of the 165.024, I'd buy that in an instant.

  • @gavinwhite9743
    @gavinwhite9743 8 днів тому +2

    I have bought two Omegas in past 12 months, both from Ad, both with 15-20% discount. Both are stunning watches. Honestly, I struggle to see the difference in quality between my Omega and my Rolex.

    • @LukeMtech55
      @LukeMtech55 6 днів тому +1

      I own both too, the big difference I see is in the bracelets. Rolex is miles ahead with there bracelets.

  • @Thankyou_3
    @Thankyou_3 8 днів тому +1

    Great video John!
    I have actually gravitated towards Omega rather than Rolex in the last few years. Tudor in fact are more appealing to me than Rolex. In my collection, the balance between Omega and Rolex/Tudor are equal but I can see myself getting more of Omega timepieces in future.

  • @chateaubullion2560
    @chateaubullion2560 8 днів тому

    When I started this crazy watch collecting journey, I bought what I liked, can afford and enjoy wearing. Fast forward 40 plus years and I still do that. I own two Omegas, a Speedy and SMP 300. That's what I like and enjoy wearing. I do like the new white dial Speedy but still on the fence about getting one. Today, I'm wearing a 38mm Certina Diver and I really like the way it looks on the wrist.

  • @Koishishibaman
    @Koishishibaman 8 днів тому

    I have always been a Seiko/GS collector. Have some nice SLA Seiko divers, GS quartz, spring drives, and a high beat.
    Bought my first Omega, a stainless dial railmaster. Got it for a good price on the bracelet. Fantastic tool watch. Wear in on a farm. Keeper!
    My 2nd is a used 2011 planet ocean professional in titanium. Amazing watch! Wear that one to work also. Divers are tools. With these two, very impressed with omega quality.

  • @mbell7498
    @mbell7498 8 днів тому +1

    I bought an Omega Aqua Terra a couple of years ago from an official retailer, the one with vertical lines, and they gave me a 30% discount. If I had bought it second hand I would have paid more.

  • @markdickerson3486
    @markdickerson3486 4 дні тому

    I appreciate your candor, and as a 5 Omegas owner, I have to say, to me it is the best bang for the buck at the plus 5K range - but, that is my opinion, and Omega isn't for everyone, and that makes them all the more special. Thank you for the video.

  • @Spartacus-hc9xt
    @Spartacus-hc9xt 8 днів тому +4

    I own a 38mm AT and a 36 mm explorer. The quality on the omega is better (other than the bracelet). I usually wear the AT on a rubber strap. That being said, the current retail price for an AT seems a few thousand dollars too high.

    • @Weakeyedominant
      @Weakeyedominant 8 днів тому +4

      The hands and dials on the explorer are made out of 18k white gold, pretty sure the same can't be said of the AT. You can argue the movement is better but overall the explorer is a level above the AT.

    • @exploretheinternet2334
      @exploretheinternet2334 8 днів тому +1

      ​@@Weakeyedominant no it's not. Keep lying to yourself.
      The indices in AT are rhodium plated, which is by the way, more expensive than white gold.
      Average rolex fanboy lmao

    • @avenuefive8593
      @avenuefive8593 8 днів тому +1

      ​@@Weakeyedominant AT hands and hour markers are rhodium plated. Compared with white gold, I still have no idea which is more expensive.

    • @paulbonaventura4969
      @paulbonaventura4969 8 днів тому

      @@avenuefive8593 I'll help explain. Rhodium is a derivative of platinum. SUPER expensive (if you bought a block of it or a liquid version) but it's a mere plating (microns thick, usually .05 MICRONS!)
      So that's kind of the same of plating on costume jewelry, but it adheres much better to gold, but a plating which can wear off or oxidize off over years.
      By the way all white gold gets plated with rhodium as well, BUT we are talking about the weight of the product.
      So since the Rolex hands / indices are white gold, that means it's solid gold (white gold, which is yellow with alloy) and then plate, that is MUCH MUCH more expensive since you have actual gold (probably a few grams). The plating on steel or whatever metal they use on the Omega, is as I said, just a plating and has 0 value (intrinsic metal value) it just makes it shine nice and has some anti oxidizing properties.

    • @Weakeyedominant
      @Weakeyedominant 8 днів тому

      @@exploretheinternet2334 plating uses a fraction of the precious metal, you would be the first person in history to choose plating over solid 18k gold 🤣

  • @robertm.9633
    @robertm.9633 8 днів тому +1

    Omega is great. Dollar for dollar, better than Rolex, IMO. Price point, I’m still leaning Tudor for divers.

  • @GrumblingForesight
    @GrumblingForesight 8 днів тому +6

    Rolex daily wearer here but one of my favorite comparison to do is comparing 90s - mid 2000s Rolex V Omegas. Omega’s case finishing, bracelet and clasps were so far ahead of their time then.

    • @brownmcpherson5724
      @brownmcpherson5724 7 днів тому

      Absolutely. I have two Seamasters from the early 2000s. The bracelets are far superior to the Oyster of the time. My favorite is my Seamaster GMT 2234.50 which is a great travel companion.

  • @glennet9613
    @glennet9613 6 днів тому +1

    The population of Switzerland is about nine million, if every single person was an expert watchmaker and did nothing else they couldn’t make all of the swiss made high end watches that they sell.

  • @shakotanZ
    @shakotanZ 8 днів тому +1

    I have yet to buy an Omega, mainly cause they are bulkier on the wrist. I've gotten addicted to the slim look of the Rolex case on wrist. Would love an Omega that has a similar case profile of a 36mm Oyster Perpetual. I've tried the 38mm Aqua Terra and found it too chonky for my taste.

  • @lonewolfemcquade8133
    @lonewolfemcquade8133 8 днів тому +4

    I used to love Omega but they fell off. Hair found under the crystal, lume falling out of the bezel and they're marketing is straight embarrassing they're IG account is beyond terrible. Omega isn't the great brand they once were. The brand needs work. Alot of work Omega is to busy ass kissing those lame brand ambassadors. Who don't give 2 shits about Omega

    • @fj7509
      @fj7509 8 днів тому +3

      100% agree

  • @kevinblanco3162
    @kevinblanco3162 8 днів тому +1

    Own planet ocean 44 great watch definitely shows its presence I believe is the best and toughest watch you can buy

  • @trinajska
    @trinajska 8 днів тому +6

    Very informative as always thank you.

    • @alexpiptom
      @alexpiptom 8 днів тому

      You’re either a bot or didn’t watch the video because you wanted to be the first comment. Pathetic

  • @ahsan101
    @ahsan101 8 днів тому +4

    Omega has been milking the speedmaster and seamaster designs for too long. Need to be more innovative

    • @benvazquez2159
      @benvazquez2159 7 днів тому

      All watch brands do this. Tudor has milked the Black Bay for everyting its worth. Rolex hasn't changed the design much if at all on their models over the last few decades. AP royal oak hasnt changed much. etc etc etc

  • @johyscorner
    @johyscorner 8 днів тому +15

    I own Omegas and Rolexes, and I find that Omega movements are superior to Rolex. Omega produces high horology pieces, including complex mechanisms like the tourbillon. They focus on innovation and quality rather than playing the heavy marketing game that Rolex does. Also, a true watch collector is not concerned with price retention, only flippers and wanna be collectors worry about that.

    • @lonewolfemcquade8133
      @lonewolfemcquade8133 5 днів тому

      @@johyscorner All Omega does is milk the Speedmaster and Seamaster. The Submariner hasn't even hit 50 versions yet. I bought an Omega Seamaster in 2015. It had terrible bezel action. Wore it once in water and it flooded. Never again will I buy an Omega my Rolex Submariner 14060m has been under water soo many times I lost count. It's been running +1 a day since bought new in 2003 its over 20 years old. Omega is to busy ass kissing those lame ass brand ambassadors that don't give 2 shits about Omega. It's not Rolex's fault Omega has the most embarrassing marketing in the industry. The Rolex is just marketing excuse is crap. Maybe if they sold a shit product the marketing excuse would have some truth to it but they don't. They sell a great watch

    • @lonewolfemcquade8133
      @lonewolfemcquade8133 5 днів тому

      @@johyscorner Bought an Omega Seamaster back in 2015. Wore it once in the water and it flooded. Never again will I buy an Omega my Rolex Submariner 14060m has been under water soo many times I lost count and has been running +1 a day since new in 2003 and it's not Rolex's fault Omega has the most embarrassing marketing in the industry. Omega is to busy ass kissing those lame ass brand ambassadors that don't give 2 shits about Omega. The Rolex is just marketing excuse is crap. Like Rolex got where they are over night. Maybe if Rolex sold a terrible product. The marketing excuse would have some truth to it but they don't

    • @johyscorner
      @johyscorner 5 днів тому

      @@lonewolfemcquade8133 I’ve taken my seamaster 300 professional diving several times and never had an issue. Maybe you got a defective one or didn’t buy it brand new. In that case that could happen to any watch. Omegas are far superior than Rolexes in terms of movements and innovation. Rolex hasn’t innovated in a long time and the most complex movement they have right now is the Sky Dweller. Every year they come up with the same watches different colors, it’s embarrassing. I’m not hating, I love my sub but I am not blind, sorry.

  • @serifdincer208
    @serifdincer208 8 днів тому +2

    Omega did a amazing job very stunning watch

  • @verbalkint3028
    @verbalkint3028 8 днів тому +1

    Hey John P. Great to see you flying the Omega flag!?! And best of luck on the future after Del Ray!?!

  • @chrishine8699
    @chrishine8699 8 днів тому +1

    I think more “non-enthusiasts” know about omega than they do AP. I certainly knew about omega since childhood, even if it was only because of James Bond.

  • @HeinisField
    @HeinisField 5 днів тому

    mamacoo I love you so much and watching your videos makes my day brighter

  • @BM-si2ei
    @BM-si2ei 8 днів тому +1

    I bought my 2022 Speedmaster hesi last Fall for $3,500 before tax. It had never been worn, box and papers. If you find a second-hand dealer you trust, I would rarely suggest anyone purchase a Swiss watch new. (granted, if you can get a Sub or a GMT Master II for retail, jump on that ASAP lol)

  • @danielbercovici5202
    @danielbercovici5202 7 днів тому +1

    They're amazing watches, my white dial 300m Seamaster still my favorite 😁

  • @ScotchOnyx
    @ScotchOnyx 6 днів тому +1

    Sad to say this but Omega has been testing the water for too long. What i mean by that is, it keeps releasing different products to the market to see consumer's feedback rather than using data and R&D to release what the consumers really want. If you disagree with this comment, I think you really don't understand how many watches/variations Omega has released in the past 10 years.

  • @Jammil2477
    @Jammil2477 8 днів тому

    I’ll be buying an Aqua Terra soon. It’s consistently rising in price in the 2nd hand market also, rather than like many, declining.

  • @robertblaich
    @robertblaich 8 днів тому +5

    Glashütte Original, Grand Seiko, Zenith, and Omega are probably the best value buys on the secondary market. The only issue I have with Omega is that their watches are too thick. Think Aqua Terra vs IWC Mark XX. If Omega can reduce their thickness and have an actual good quick adjustment bracelet, they can justify their MSRP.

    • @user-mk3ni4rg1l
      @user-mk3ni4rg1l 8 днів тому +5

      Just released the micro adjust recently

    • @SA17579
      @SA17579 8 днів тому +2

      I tried both and the omega 41 wore better although thicker due to the shorter lug to lug length. 🤷‍♂️

    • @stocksxbondage
      @stocksxbondage 8 днів тому +2

      These are my favorite brands in the middle class “attainable” price range. You could have a 4 watch collection with your favorite of these brands and nearly quit the game entirely.
      Omega does have a very good on the fly adjustment on the Seamasters (except Aqua Terra’s butterfly). The thickness specs are deceiving. 2-3mm is the display case back, which sort of goes into your skin (assuming you’re not wearing a NATO) then the domed crystal, which is practically invisible. Like the PO’s 16mm thickness feels like a 13-14mm. The case itself, excluding bezel and open case back, actually looks similar to a skin diver 🤷🏽‍♂️

  • @vktravellog1242
    @vktravellog1242 8 днів тому +3

    If people didnt get the memo inflation is killing the consumer and we cant eat watches. Watches are not a necessity and they are about to feel the pain. A lot of brands will go bankrupt

  • @robynsjp
    @robynsjp 6 днів тому +1

    I have over 10 Omegas. Vintage ones from the 1960s, and a couple of neo vintages ones (sword hands divers, first AT). All bought preowned obviously. I would never buy Omega new. I like the AT small seconds blue on rubber, and it is on my wish list, but again preowned will be the way. I bought my AT first iteration blue 39 mm auto for less than 2K preowned. Look at retail prices today, it's just unreasonable.

  • @StephenMorganCanada
    @StephenMorganCanada 8 днів тому

    My three favourite pieces in terms of reliability, look and durability have been my ‘93, ‘01 and ‘23 Omega Seamaster 300ms.

  • @ntag411
    @ntag411 8 днів тому +1

    The Swiss luxury watch sector gauged the market, largely Millennials, over 20 years ago and they appear to have been highly successful. Richard Mille came about this same time. The transition from tool to jewelry up the pricing 4-5X.
    It was probably blind luck, my non-rich modest cost reasoning as a decades long watch enthusiast and the steep discounts at the time, I bought all my Swiss branded watches around the year 2000 and earlier.
    Unlike many consumers today, I've lived thru and owned various changes in watches. Mechanical, electric (balance powered by a battery), tuning fork (never actually owned this headache of a design) and quartz. I was and still am happy to have departed largely away from mechanical.
    The market for the past many years appears to be focused on mechanical while quartz, quality quartz, has largely disappeared. 20 years or so ago a quality quartz Seiko having about 5 jewels or Swiss branded watch having an ETA 7 jewel movement was the norm. Today they are largely zero (0) jewel and can cost well into the thousands of $$$. Quality can still be had but the pricing is on the moon for something like a Seiko using a 9F quartz movement.

  • @uncles2000
    @uncles2000 8 днів тому +1

    Omega is a consistent and quality products with timeless designs that carry nice incremental changes year to year. Their movements are above average in performance and finish. Their world timer complication is a steal at the used market prices. They are not worth retail when AD's will give 15% off w/warranty. Gray Market 15%-30% off w/no warranty and limited selections. Used market is 20%-40% off depending on condition and model w/warranty. If one is patience, there are many deals on Omegas. JM2C

  • @allanrico021
    @allanrico021 8 днів тому +17

    They are really worth it. Buy before the prices go up again

  • @charliebrown2359
    @charliebrown2359 8 днів тому

    My favorite watches. Just love the style

  • @CaptainWillard830
    @CaptainWillard830 7 днів тому

    I have three vintage Omegas, one of which is a Speedmaster Reduced; and an Omega Seamaster Professional 300 Sedna Gold on rubber strap 🎉! Get an Omega now. But wait, there’s more…I picked up a Longines Spirit Zulu Black bezel with dark blue dial with stainless steel bracelet, this weekend. There is now balance in the force

  • @kevinp4305
    @kevinp4305 7 днів тому

    Great video John, I am a huge fan of Omega and own several pieces. However, my gripe with Omega is that they really haven’t released anything of note in the past few years. Releasing new dial colors and limited editions is getting a bit stale. They need to overhaul the Seamaster line and give people what they want. The brand is becoming more like Breitling by flooding their catalog with so many options and sizes that people are looking else where. Omega needs to clean up their offerings and discontinue lines that are struggling. I feel that Omega is too comfortable where they are at in the watch industry, likely why Cartier bumped them out of the second spot. Not going there with the Rolex comparisons, but I think Tudor is a more exciting brand than Omega at the moment.

  • @zachg9065
    @zachg9065 8 днів тому +1

    I bought a used Speedmaster racing for $2800 I think it’s a pretty good value for used

  • @Watch_for_me
    @Watch_for_me 8 днів тому +4

    I'm over Omega. Sold my Speedmaster to get a Grand Seiko after the chronograph jammed two times and never looked back.
    Their most significant watch has been relying on the same marketing strategy where they pay NASA for the past 50 years to be their 'official watch.'
    Their 'coolest' watch is a an homage to a fictional spy. The NTTD shouldn't be worn by anyone over 14 years old. They also pay even more marketing to be the official watch of James Bond.
    Their most recognizable and sought after model has a cartoon dog riding a rocket ship and is owned and pumped up by the worst group of amoebas on this planet (crypto bros)
    Their watches are overpriced and I don't get any discounts on them anymore (despite my family getting 90% off all their models before 2017).
    Their bracelets and clasps are abhorrent.
    They slapped their most loyal fanbase in the face by releasing a $300 McDonalds toy that was scalped for the first few years and would break after a week of use.
    Maybe next they'll make a Tyrannosaurus Rex themed Aquaterra at Watches and Wonders 2024 to satiate the poor Dinosaur fanboys who never got into James Bond but already have a "Mission to Uranus."

    • @zsb707
      @zsb707 6 днів тому

      Ouch! Some fanboys may get upset 😊

  • @BigFerg-hf6uv
    @BigFerg-hf6uv 5 днів тому +2

    Rollers are to douchey I'd take an Omega any day

  • @WestCoastAce27
    @WestCoastAce27 8 днів тому

    Great content as always. But gigantic catalog + member of Swatch Group + non-tapered bracelets = off my radar.

  • @JamesIdentity
    @JamesIdentity 8 днів тому +7

    Very true, pre-owned there is nothing comparable in terms of quality and function (for the money).

  • @JuanSegarra-td6yr
    @JuanSegarra-td6yr 7 днів тому

    My first luxury watch was the Aqua Terra blue dial last year and felt it was too heavy,so changed my strap to an Artem strap and made it lighter. I then picked up my Rolex submariner Starbucks after waiting 10 months. It wears 10 times better on the wrist and it’s not top heavy.

  • @arklow3482
    @arklow3482 7 днів тому

    What watch are you wearing?

  • @rotvonrat
    @rotvonrat 8 днів тому

    Bought a brand new released Edifice a few weeks ago because it was beautiful. Have many Omegas and Seikos, nice watches but a pain in the ass if you take them off your arm. With Edificeen you don't have to worry if you don't use it, it will still click to show you the correct time, date and more as long as it gets some light. You like watches that have long since passed out of the times we live in. Even a smart watch is better than these very expensive watches.

  • @CptnWinkee
    @CptnWinkee 8 днів тому +1

    A pre-owned Omega is one of the greatest values in watches.

  • @paulbonaventura4969
    @paulbonaventura4969 8 днів тому +1

    The new Aqua Terra at 6k is going to be no for me, I do like Omega and just the symbol better than a crown lol. However for 6k, Cartier is where I would go. For a about 1k more go to a basic rolex and be done.
    The 5,000 different colors, limited editions, etc just make it very fashion brand like.
    That's my opinion and of course... doesn't really matter

  • @speedmaster001
    @speedmaster001 8 днів тому +1

    Rolex took a page from DeBeers playbook. Create an artificial demand by controlling sale release making Rolex watches seems rarer than they actually are.
    No thanks, I’m an Omega fan for life. I can go on and on on what Omega pioneered and beat Rolex in innovation, movements, accuracy and most importantly accessibility.

  • @laurent90210
    @laurent90210 8 днів тому +2

    Longines seems to be a better value

  • @leepeacher4178
    @leepeacher4178 8 днів тому

    Love my Moonwatch. I don’t ever think about value retention because I will never part ways with my speedy.

  • @F15IDriver
    @F15IDriver 7 днів тому

    I think they are pretty good value but starting to push it. Also, i really want them to release a black ceramic speedmaster moonwatch with a moonphase. like the blue side of the moon in black.

  • @Dnooch74
    @Dnooch74 8 днів тому +1

    Two Ultra Deeps, Seamaster Chrono diver, Seamaster 300m summer blue and 3861 sapphire sandwich moon watch. Yeah, I like that I can have these five watches for the price of one or two Rolexes if you “allowed”to buy them.

  • @BS-ms8bq
    @BS-ms8bq 8 днів тому

    Can you imagine if the nicer aquaterras sold used closer to a black bay used price. I would have one in my collection much sooner.

  • @louisdebonis5716
    @louisdebonis5716 8 днів тому +1

    I own 8 omegas and 5 rolexes. Omega makes excellent watches; however, I find myself wearing rolex.

    • @MarkDanger777
      @MarkDanger777 8 днів тому

      What's the reason behind that? Rolex are more durable? Nicer? Brand recognition?

    • @louisdebonis5716
      @louisdebonis5716 8 днів тому +1

      @@MarkDanger777 I have a pepsi, blue sky-dweller, batman, milgauss, submariner, vs omega worldtimer, several speedmasters, planet oceans, and a few 300 p in multiple colors. I don't think there is really a quality difference. It's more psychological as I've always preferred rolex

  • @glenking6418
    @glenking6418 8 днів тому +1

    Omega’s my brand
    Where what you like

  • @Lawrence64
    @Lawrence64 8 днів тому

    Omega is an awesome brand. It does connect with the people... And people feel respected by the level of quality that exudes from their products.

  • @1984sebb
    @1984sebb 8 днів тому +4

    No, they're not. I tried an Omega Aqua Terra Shade in Europe, the price was about 7000 Euros. It should cost about 2k maximum. I was wearing a quartz Tissot PRX when I was trying the Omega on and the difference in quality was not even close to being in line with the difference in price...

    • @zsb707
      @zsb707 6 днів тому

      Comparing Tissot PRX to Omega Aqua Terra? Seriously?

    • @1984sebb
      @1984sebb 6 днів тому +1

      @@zsb707. Yes. I also compared the PRX to the new Longines Conquests that costs over 2000 Euros. My conclusion is that the Longines is about 75% of the Aqua Terra and the PRX is about 60%....

    • @lonewolfemcquade8133
      @lonewolfemcquade8133 6 днів тому

      Omega isn't the great brand they once were. Alot don't want to admit that but that's 💯 the fact of the matter. Omega is to busy ass kissing those lame ass brand ambassadors that don't give 2 shits about Omega

  • @kurtlawson9136
    @kurtlawson9136 7 днів тому

    AD’s will give you 20% off retail. I get mine in Nashua NH with no sales tax. So if you’re buying it at retail you’re not taking a huge loss when getting a hefty discount.

  • @BriscoeDesign
    @BriscoeDesign 8 днів тому

    Chronoscope on bracelet with dark blue dial; removed the bracelet and wearing it on navy blue gator (omega) strap, and, moonshine gold moon watch on bracelet. These two watches are my absolute best wears each and everytime. I feel great wearing them as they tick away. No need to mention other brands in the case.

  • @ALL-il1sw
    @ALL-il1sw 7 днів тому +1

    Yes, they are still cheaper and superior to more expensive brands like IWC, Rolex and Zenith

  • @Nosey_Noseworth
    @Nosey_Noseworth 5 днів тому

    @JohnPWatches
    Why does no one talk about Carl F Bucherer? I think they own or are associated with Rolex. But no one talks about them or rates them. Can you enlighten us with a little history and ranking of Carl F. Bucherer watches compared to other tiers? Thanx.

  • @vantage789
    @vantage789 8 днів тому

    What does it mean for a watch, or anything for that matter, ‘worth it’? What does worth mean in this context?

  • @etebol
    @etebol 8 днів тому

    Everything goes up except a people’s salaries. I for one, have started exploring micro brands and learning more about Japanese and the snubbed Swiss “off the shelve” movements. To my surprise there are great value/performance/quality/design offerings out there.

    • @Andy-ys8sj
      @Andy-ys8sj 8 днів тому +1

      Bravo my friend, you can't go wrong with a cw twelve on rubber for 850pounds, five years warranty and a sixty day return, no questions asked, also the trident 300..... 750pounds on the rubber. Or there's a company called WISE that do amazing work for about 650dollers. Beautiful work, all the best Andrew

  • @TheAmbitiousPeasant
    @TheAmbitiousPeasant 7 днів тому

    IMHO they are confused on their USP and value prop along the way. They could've stuck to their slow and steady trajectory but who am I to say?

  • @OmidSoltan
    @OmidSoltan 8 днів тому +3

    The new AT with the lacquered dial looks great. But if it were meant as an alternative to a DateJust or Explorer, I don’t think the new pricing would justify that.

  • @user-mk3ni4rg1l
    @user-mk3ni4rg1l 8 днів тому

    Yes