Why I like this scene: 1: The Music, it works really well with it! 2: The Effects, I don’t care if it’s cheap 80’s...This is awesome! 3: Tom Baker’s performance, he’s just a really amazing Doctor!
What are you people on about? 'Amazing acting'?! Can you please point it out to me. Tom Baker is utterly mediocre here...it just proves the ridiculous nonsense fans will spew....in much the same way they bemoan anything Colin Baker did with no foundation. Ton Baker here is clearly going through the motions, probably dying to get these scenes over with and get down the pub, and you morons think it's the best portrayal ever.... what a joke.
Quantel was new and fairly expensive st the time. So was scene-sync, a new method to control multiple cameras with blue-screen effects (Meglos). It's amazing what JNT managed to accomplish at the time, especially considering how the show was seen as old and cheap in the previous season. 40 years on, it'll look cheap either which way, so with luck there will be a proper story and acting to keep a story going once the visuals aren't as exciting anymore.
@@SamuelBlack84 I think it's because they were both around 1981's output at the BBC Radiophonic Workshop, the heart of experimental electronic music back then.
"You can't fight Time Lords, Romana." "You did. Once". "Mmm. And lost." I don't know why, but that particular dialogue exchange gets me right in the feels. It's very understated, but it's kind of sad that the Doctor, usually the man always ready to fight when he has to, calmly and quietly accepts that he would always lose against the Time Lords. I suspect losing his second self because of them still hurts.
That all changed with the NewWho... Not really sure if I should like it (as a character and story development) or dislike it (because now the Timelords are basically for nothing)
The Time War certainly soured the Doc's impressions on the Time Lords and I'm sure his actions as the War Doc gave him some bravado on resisting them. Though even before then, his experiences with the Trial as Six on top of the affairs of Arc of Infinity and the Death Zone as Five probably soured him further (including how Five Doctors ends with him daring to run away AGAIN.) And if you want to factor in the Wilderness Years media, there's all the shit Eight experienced between Charley and/or whatever the hell happened in the BBC Books.
Andrewnuva199 The VNA/Bernice Summerfield books are supposed to be an alternate timeline now right? I think Nick Briggs originally kept it that way to make sure they didn't violate the licensing agreement, but kept it that way because seperating all that Lungburrow stuff from the Big Finish and NuWho canon made things a lot simpler for the writers.
According to the DVD, the dust you can see getting dispersed when the birds fly away was actually colouring which was applied to their feathers to try to make them look other-worldly, but because they moved so fast it's impossible to notice and all that's visible onscreen is the make-up being shaken off. So as the birds had to have this applied in advance, it was no doubt planned that they were released at that moment. But it is a nice moment.
@@stephenmcconnell1000 Doctor Who definitely has some beautiful moments, even in the old series. I recently watched the Key To Time boxset and the scene at the start of the first story where the TARDIS door opens and reveals a bright light is very beautiful.
@timrob12 I know the moment you mean with the orange light. I always liked that too. The Key to Time certainly has plenty of nice touches, like the multiple variations of Romana/Strella/the android's purple costume in Androids of Tara and the moment where Romana exits the TARDIS in Stones of Blood and there are ravens perched on the roof.
I don't think the TARDIS malfunctioned and fell into E-Space, I think the Time Lords had one final mission for the Doctor and Romana; this pocket universe was opening up, and they needed someone to investigate it to see if it was a potential threat. After all, the King Vampire was within E-Space, and their kind had once been at war with the Time Lords, and if he was still alive and hostile, the Time Lords needed to make sure he was dealt with properly.
@@mrscsi6472 But according to a bunch of different things and a bunch of different extended universe stuff. They have vampire Problems at home including a couple of cults who think rasalon was one But then again, it does sound like them to deal with the vampire in the other universe before dealing with the one in their own base
+BionicNinja123. At the time, Tom Baker didn't because he was going through the emotional turmoil of leaving the show. If you watched "The Tom Baker Years" hosted by Baker himself, you'll find he rather liked the season 18 shows he saw in the random clips while saying at one point he'd like to watch them. Facts. You should try them sometime.
mortalhellion Yeah I remember seeing a clip on UA-cam from a convention where somebody asked him if he didn't like the Season 18 outfit, and he replied saying he liked all the outfits he got to wear. I, personally, really liked this outfit too. I think practically everything he wore looked good on him, but if I had to choose, I'd say the brown coat he wore with Romana in the Graham Williams years is my least favorite. I don't know why, but it just felt a bit empty.
Tom Baker's emotional turmoil wasn't because of him leaving the show, it was because of a combination of conflicts with John Nathan Turner over how the show ought to be ran (at a time when Baker was at the peak of his prima-donna phase) and his struggles with his own inner demons (specifically undiagnosed bipolar disorder, depression, and his perception of fiction versus reality growing increasingly blurry due to the fact that he had been playing the Doctor both in the studio and for children in public for six years at that point). Nobody knows exactly why Baker left the show, but the most probable reason was that it was because he got fed up with JNT.
game4brains I've heard people saying that but I've never heard Tom himself say that he left because of disagreements with JNT. Though that is plausible. He used to bully a lot of the writers and directors because he disagreed with the way they were portraying the character. If there is any merit to this rumor, it's likely because JNT wouldn't take that kind of shit anymore (he was pretty adamant about bringing a sense of seriousness to the show). I remember one of the things was that Tom didn't want to wear makeup when being the Doctor, which was another thing he disagreed with JNT over. But now he says he remembers the guy fondly and doesn't hold a grudge against him.
I for one think that Full Circle was the last of the most scientifically realistic Doctor Who TV stories. I may be wrong. But this one certainly had a smart message about evolution with a good twist. 👍🏻
I grew up watching the first wave of episodes coming over to the States. Pertwee & Baker, so I know what you mean. I think the only thing I'd change is a good editing to remove a lot of the "dead" space between dialogs and events. I also laugh at those who complain about New Who's CGI work. In our day, it was paper mache and rubber monsters, and we loved it.
That's the case in the modern series too lol. The Tennant Cyberman episode comes to mind, where it's suggested they've been flying for at least 30 minutes.
PandaInAction ♐You'd be right if travelling in the tardis was actually exciting to watch and didn't look cheap as hell. Though, I do like that we get to see more of the interior of the tardis.
What are you talking about? There are plenty of scenes in the Tardis interior from all eras of New Who and vice versa there are plenty of classic who stories where the Tardis only serves as the plot device to reach the new destination for the story, with only the outside police box being seen in the story.
What I dislike is how efficient the Tardis looks and acts now. I love the RTD era Tardis interior because of how the controls are made up of random pieces The Doctor's picked up over the years. Now it looks brand new ,and travelling is no longer a rollercoaster ride but an elevator lift. Hopefully they go back to the Tardis being a rickety, malfunctioning piece of junk: it provides the Tardis with much more character that way.
Loved the soundtrack to Full Circle. Actually I loved pretty much everything about Full Circle as an episode. Really creepy sciency stuff revolving around the Marshmen and the evolution of the Alzarians. Great stuff that really made me miss Christopher H Bidmead's writing for Doctor Who. Ah... The days before Eric Saward came in and ended up clashing with JN-T and lead on to the mess that ended up cancelling the Classic Series (among other things)
It would've been interesting to see the Doctor taking Romana back to Gallifrey and for K-9 Mark 2 to meet his twin, K-9 Mark 1 and also to see how Leela and Andred are getting along. Would Romana be good friends with Leela if they got to meet after Romana got returned home whether she wanted to or not?
Well in Big Finish audios Romana eventually returns to Gallifrey and becomes Lord President with Leela as her personal bodyguard...so yes. I think she would
I just realized they don't show any of the other rooms on The Tardis in the new series of Dr Who they talk about them and they showed the hallways in a couple but that's it.
Loulou Willis Not much some rooms. One episode where Amy and Rory went around the TARDIS it hand old console room. In an episode called journey to the Centre of the TARDIS it shows some rooms.
Romana didn‘t bother to think or care that the Doctor could be punished by the Time Lords if he didn‘t return her home to Gallifrey after they received a call from them ordering him to return her home. He was punished for interfering in the Universe‘s affairs,though he was later forgiven after he first saved them.
Remember Romana is only 124 years old, shes a college new grad on her first assignment, shes had her first taste of adult freedom and wants more. To go back and be responsible, is horrible to her, but yeah she doesnt seem to care the doctor would get in trouble if he didnt return her
This piece of Doctor Who reminds me of the TV version of Hitchhiker's Guide; the Kingsland electronic score and the effective (yet cheesy) special effects.
The Doctor was so looking forward to seeing his old companion Leela and her husband Andred to see how they‘ve been doing and to see K-9 mark 2 meeting K-9 mark 1,who stayed on Gallifrey to look after Leela.
Romana should‘ve realized that if the Doctor didn‘t return her to Gallifrey after they received a call from the Time Lords ordering her to return home,he would have to face their anger sooner or later for his failure to return her home.
If the Doctor told Romana that he might get into big trouble with the Time Lords should he fail to bring Romana back to Gallifrey after they got the summons to return her home,she probably would say that she doesn't care. She didn't want to return home after all that they've been through since she was chosen to help the Doctor find the Key To Time.
dang old skool doctor who is cool! i like how the tardis has bedrooms for companions. In New Who we never see what their bedrooms look like, plus i like the background too with lots of circles. I hope they bring something like that back too.
Though the 4th Doctor wore a burgundy coat and a black& burgundy scarf with his new style of clothing that included a shirt with a pair of red question marks on it,he left 2 frock coats hanging on the hat and coat rack in the TARDIS console room for some time.
Who *doesn't* ship 'em? It's a great pairing due to the reality of Tom Baker's brief marriage to Lalla Ward. They *really* missed a trick when NuWho created River Song... they could've rethought all of 11 and 12's stories and reveal she was Romana and that the world in the Library was just a portal to E-Space... a reveal like that would've been EPIC for the lore of the show and elevated Who during it's consecutive low points in the new series...
Tom Baker is and always will be the REAL Dr. Who. It used to be a big Saturday night deal to go to a friends house with popcorn and other treats. It was a really big deal. Haven't watched much of that show since he left. All of the others that followed can't compare to what Tom Baker brought to the small screen in his portrayal of "THE DOCTOR". That's just how I feel.
Shut up, almost all of the incarnations are the "real" Dr. Who. Pertwee, Troughton, Davison, and even Colin are just as good as Tom. He's overrated because of how long he stayed. Not saying he isn't great, just that the others were just as great.
Our local PBS station showed it on Saturday afternoons, right around the time of the Baker/Davison regen. We'd get the complete serials over the course of several weeks, but they wouldn't always show them in the right order. So, you just had to go along with the fact that the guy who died last week was still alive this week.
It would‘ve been interesting for K-9 Mark 2 to meet his twin after the Doctor returned Romana to Gallifrey if the TARDIS did‘t enter E-Space by accident. He was looking forward to see his former assistant Leela & her mate Andred again.
The only complaint I have about E-space is that it should have been more hazardous. It would've been interesting if the Tardis had trouble flying through it.
vivalapsych yes, it was smaller than our own N (for Normal) Space, K9 stated this in "State of Decay". I like it when people actually make efforts to do the research... mathematical badge of excellence right there mate...
Romana could‘ve gotten a lawyer on Gallifrey to try to fight for the right to explore the Universe with the Doctor as long as she likes after helping him look for the Key To Time. Romana didn‘t think of the possibility that the Doctor could get punished for failing to return her home after getting summoed to return. Good thing it didn‘t happen to him when his TARDIS got recalled a regeneration later on a different matter.
She was, and still is, GORGEOUS! I didn't like this series as much after John Nathan Turner took over as producer. Notice the "Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy" music?
Something I can give the Classic Series that even if not too frequent, when they had emotional moments, they really left an impact. Jamie and Zoe's goodbye still get me a little choked up.
Whoniversal fate intervened and did Romana justice. It was also nice though to have her return to Gallifrey thanks to Big Finish as the President. The E-Space trilogy was John Nathan-Turner's best Doctor Who contribution as producer.
It's nothing more than fan-service. If Romana ever did reach the office of the presidency, at least Big Finish could've shown us the circumstances leading to her ascendance.
Strange that the Doctor didn't try to contact the Time Lords for help after he, Romana and K-9 went into E-Space by accident on their way back to Gallifrey after getting a call to return.
I kind of miss this season. Then again I miss everything that had Adric a part of it.... Ouch... Except that part. 💔 Wouldn't it be nice if some Doctor would go back and give him a better bye? Is Adric amongst anyone else's top 3 companions to date (He's tied with Jamie for #1)?
he's in my top 10 but in terms of Who I view him as the most integral companion of the show... forget Donna being the most important human of time and space or Martha dunking on the Master... Adric straight up became God Tier... if it wasn't for his slightly inept heroism the human race wouldn't have even existed...
@@JoesAnimationHub I loved how he constantly observed the 4th Doctor closely and gradually became more and more like him. It's understandable how he became rather testy with The Doctor after he regenerated, first keeping a close eye on him through the process then entering a sort of rebellious teen stage when he didn't like how different the 5th Doctor was in terms of character. Adric was like that small part of the 4th Doctor we no longer had by the end of his role.
Even if the Doctor did bring Romana back to Gallifrey after getting the summons to return her,would she dare challenge the Time Lords to continue roaming the Universe with the Doctor? The Doctor fought them when he was put on trial for interfering in the Universe's affairs after he called them for help to return many soldiers from different wars in Earth's history who were kidnapped by aliens with the help of the War Chief,an evil renegade Time Lord,and lost the battle against his people after they helped him return the soldiers to Earth. Romana would probably be locked up if she defied the Time Lords.
Who knows why the Doctor had 2 frock coats and a scarf hanging on a hat and coat rack in the TARDIS console room after he changed his clothes and was dressed mostly in red?
The Doctor could've hypnotized Romana to go back to Gallifrey after she said that she didn't want to go back. The Doctor didn't even bother to try to call on the Time Lords to help him after he, Romana & K-9 went into E-Space by mistake.
It's hard for me to imagine the Fourth Doctor saying things like he's looking forward to seeing how Leela and Andred were getting on. That's the type of pointless continuity which can get in the way (although it was nice to hear Leela being mentioned - I think they asked her to return for this series or the next one didn't they?).
They asked her and Sarah to return in the finale episodes to help bridge the gap of 4 turning to 5, however they both declinded, hence bringing in the 3 new companions.
Surely Romana should‘ve thought that if the Doctor didn‘t return her to Gallifrey after they received a summons from the Time Lords,the Doctor would get severely punished. He lost his 2nd life after being sentenced to exile on 20th Century Earth for a long time for interfering in the Universe‘s affairs.
Yes, the scarf most notably. This maroon ensemble pops up again at the start of the Seventh Doctor. He tries on the outfit while searching for his own costumed look.
The maroon coat also shows up in "Mawdryn Undead" - Mawdryn wears it when he tricks Tegan, Nyssa, and the Brigadier into thinking he (Mawdryn) is the Doctor having just regenerated.
@ uh no, not even close! Capapldi has the age and the gravitas to blend with the early doctors, hes the only modern doctor I believe as the doctor, his face finally matches his age, I believe him as the nearly 3000 year old time lord (and, no, i did not miscount!)
Gabriel Nolan I don't believe so. They mostly just argue. Like have you seen Sarah Jane Adventures? If so remember how k9 and Mr.Smith acted? Like that
@@Sonicbolt456 I've seen most of it because some of my family as watched it.... but i heard when K-9 returned everyone was glad to have him back and Mr.Smith Wasn't...
The Doctor could‘ve tried to contat the Time Lords for help after the TARDIS with him,Romana & K-9 aboard went into E-Space,but it probably wouldn‘t work. Romana should‘ve realized that if the Doctor doesn‘t return her to Gallifrey after they received a summons from them,they would‘ve punished him for his failure to bring her home long after her helping him find the Key to Time was done.
maybe the timelords still needed the doctors and Romanas help and the summons was a ruse but they instead secretly sent them into e space because they found out or knew the king vampire was about to wake up and swarm back into n space and the time lords sent them to deal with it because the next story after was the dr leaving e space but to n space with romana staying behind its just a drwho theory of mine
I like how the TARDIS working “perfectly” and “normally” are two very different things.
That's very true though and makes complete sense. Somehow I think The Doctor was referring to K-9 though.
Why I like this scene:
1: The Music, it works really well with it!
2: The Effects, I don’t care if it’s cheap 80’s...This is awesome!
3: Tom Baker’s performance, he’s just a really amazing Doctor!
Season 18 did have some excellent music! And yeah, Tom really does steal the show here.
And in this momment his acting is really on top
What are you people on about? 'Amazing acting'?! Can you please point it out to me. Tom Baker is utterly mediocre here...it just proves the ridiculous nonsense fans will spew....in much the same way they bemoan anything Colin Baker did with no foundation.
Ton Baker here is clearly going through the motions, probably dying to get these scenes over with and get down the pub, and you morons think it's the best portrayal ever.... what a joke.
@@rnw2739 No need to be rude! it's just an opinion.
Quantel was new and fairly expensive st the time. So was scene-sync, a new method to control multiple cameras with blue-screen effects (Meglos). It's amazing what JNT managed to accomplish at the time, especially considering how the show was seen as old and cheap in the previous season. 40 years on, it'll look cheap either which way, so with luck there will be a proper story and acting to keep a story going once the visuals aren't as exciting anymore.
I really love the incidental music from this period in Doctor Who's history.
Me, too. The classic electronic incidental music was perfect for this era of Dr Who, and is an integral part of it.
It reminds me so much of Hitchikers Guide To The Galaxy
@@SamuelBlack84 I think it's because they were both around 1981's output at the BBC Radiophonic Workshop, the heart of experimental electronic music back then.
@@SamuelBlack84Same composer, Paddy Kingsland.
"You can't fight Time Lords, Romana." "You did. Once". "Mmm. And lost."
I don't know why, but that particular dialogue exchange gets me right in the feels. It's very understated, but it's kind of sad that the Doctor, usually the man always ready to fight when he has to, calmly and quietly accepts that he would always lose against the Time Lords. I suspect losing his second self because of them still hurts.
That all changed with the NewWho... Not really sure if I should like it (as a character and story development) or dislike it (because now the Timelords are basically for nothing)
Domihork Same. I'm getting pretty sick of new who at this point :/
The Time War certainly soured the Doc's impressions on the Time Lords and I'm sure his actions as the War Doc gave him some bravado on resisting them. Though even before then, his experiences with the Trial as Six on top of the affairs of Arc of Infinity and the Death Zone as Five probably soured him further (including how Five Doctors ends with him daring to run away AGAIN.) And if you want to factor in the Wilderness Years media, there's all the shit Eight experienced between Charley and/or whatever the hell happened in the BBC Books.
Andrewnuva199 The VNA/Bernice Summerfield books are supposed to be an alternate timeline now right? I think Nick Briggs originally kept it that way to make sure they didn't violate the licensing agreement, but kept it that way because seperating all that Lungburrow stuff from the Big Finish and NuWho canon made things a lot simpler for the writers.
its such a POWERFULline when he admits to losing to the timelords!!!
I like the moment at the end when the birds suddenly fly up. I believe that was unexpected and genuinely surprised Tom and Lalla.
According to the DVD, the dust you can see getting dispersed when the birds fly away was actually colouring which was applied to their feathers to try to make them look other-worldly, but because they moved so fast it's impossible to notice and all that's visible onscreen is the make-up being shaken off. So as the birds had to have this applied in advance, it was no doubt planned that they were released at that moment. But it is a nice moment.
@@stephenmcconnell1000 Doctor Who definitely has some beautiful moments, even in the old series. I recently watched the Key To Time boxset and the scene at the start of the first story where the TARDIS door opens and reveals a bright light is very beautiful.
@timrob12 I know the moment you mean with the orange light. I always liked that too. The Key to Time certainly has plenty of nice touches, like the multiple variations of Romana/Strella/the android's purple costume in Androids of Tara and the moment where Romana exits the TARDIS in Stones of Blood and there are ravens perched on the roof.
@@stephenmcconnell1000 I was impressed with the Romana/Strella/Android sequences as I didn't expect split-screen to be that good in the classic era.
I don't think the TARDIS malfunctioned and fell into E-Space, I think the Time Lords had one final mission for the Doctor and Romana; this pocket universe was opening up, and they needed someone to investigate it to see if it was a potential threat. After all, the King Vampire was within E-Space, and their kind had once been at war with the Time Lords, and if he was still alive and hostile, the Time Lords needed to make sure he was dealt with properly.
That implies that the time lords do anything other than sit on their butts
@@plantainsame2049true, but by sending the doctor, they could still sit on their butts while the doctor did the work for them
@@mrscsi6472 But according to a bunch of different things and a bunch of different extended universe stuff. They have vampire Problems at home including a couple of cults who think rasalon was one
But then again, it does sound like them to deal with the vampire in the other universe before dealing with the one in their own base
Nice theory. I like it.
1:03
"Doctor, I don’t want to spend the rest of my life on Galifray."
*Goes on to become Lady President of the planet in the same regeneration*
*Gallifrey
That particular incarnation lived a very long time
I just love the shot at 1:40 of the TARDIS flying through space for some reason
I love the 4th Doctor's Season 18 costume and his Season 18 scarf!
A shame Tom Baker didn't...
+BionicNinja123. At the time, Tom Baker didn't because he was going through the emotional turmoil of leaving the show. If you watched "The Tom Baker Years" hosted by Baker himself, you'll find he rather liked the season 18 shows he saw in the random clips while saying at one point he'd like to watch them.
Facts. You should try them sometime.
mortalhellion Yeah I remember seeing a clip on UA-cam from a convention where somebody asked him if he didn't like the Season 18 outfit, and he replied saying he liked all the outfits he got to wear. I, personally, really liked this outfit too. I think practically everything he wore looked good on him, but if I had to choose, I'd say the brown coat he wore with Romana in the Graham Williams years is my least favorite. I don't know why, but it just felt a bit empty.
Tom Baker's emotional turmoil wasn't because of him leaving the show, it was because of a combination of conflicts with John Nathan Turner over how the show ought to be ran (at a time when Baker was at the peak of his prima-donna phase) and his struggles with his own inner demons (specifically undiagnosed bipolar disorder, depression, and his perception of fiction versus reality growing increasingly blurry due to the fact that he had been playing the Doctor both in the studio and for children in public for six years at that point). Nobody knows exactly why Baker left the show, but the most probable reason was that it was because he got fed up with JNT.
game4brains I've heard people saying that but I've never heard Tom himself say that he left because of disagreements with JNT. Though that is plausible. He used to bully a lot of the writers and directors because he disagreed with the way they were portraying the character. If there is any merit to this rumor, it's likely because JNT wouldn't take that kind of shit anymore (he was pretty adamant about bringing a sense of seriousness to the show). I remember one of the things was that Tom didn't want to wear makeup when being the Doctor, which was another thing he disagreed with JNT over. But now he says he remembers the guy fondly and doesn't hold a grudge against him.
I love the TARDIS in season 18, one of my favourite interiors by far
I for one think that Full Circle was the last of the most scientifically realistic Doctor Who TV stories. I may be wrong. But this one certainly had a smart message about evolution with a good twist. 👍🏻
Indeed. I really like the hard science approach to season 18, and I wonder what the show would have been like had Bidmead continued as script editor.
I miss the classics and the classic set up. It was so awesome.
I grew up watching the first wave of episodes coming over to the States. Pertwee & Baker, so I know what you mean. I think the only thing I'd change is a good editing to remove a lot of the "dead" space between dialogs and events. I also laugh at those who complain about New Who's CGI work. In our day, it was paper mache and rubber monsters, and we loved it.
Great when we see more rooms of the great Tardis back in the classic Who
I love Romana #2's beautiful room.
I think you will find that was Nyssas Beautiful room, go check out Terminus
@@julieeverett7442 it was hers after
@@IBagel2 true
Romania's room got jettisoned in Logopolis
@@tompearce5418 Yes, it did.
I love classic who because theres actually time taken for the tardis to travel through space rather than it being a teleporter xD
That's the case in the modern series too lol. The Tennant Cyberman episode comes to mind, where it's suggested they've been flying for at least 30 minutes.
PandaInAction ♐You'd be right if travelling in the tardis was actually exciting to watch and didn't look cheap as hell. Though, I do like that we get to see more of the interior of the tardis.
Miles Heron very true xD
What are you talking about? There are plenty of scenes in the Tardis interior from all eras of New Who and vice versa there are plenty of classic who stories where the Tardis only serves as the plot device to reach the new destination for the story, with only the outside police box being seen in the story.
What I dislike is how efficient the Tardis looks and acts now. I love the RTD era Tardis interior because of how the controls are made up of random pieces The Doctor's picked up over the years. Now it looks brand new ,and travelling is no longer a rollercoaster ride but an elevator lift. Hopefully they go back to the Tardis being a rickety, malfunctioning piece of junk: it provides the Tardis with much more character that way.
Loved the soundtrack to Full Circle.
Actually I loved pretty much everything about Full Circle as an episode. Really creepy sciency stuff revolving around the Marshmen and the evolution of the Alzarians.
Great stuff that really made me miss Christopher H Bidmead's writing for Doctor Who.
Ah... The days before Eric Saward came in and ended up clashing with JN-T and lead on to the mess that ended up cancelling the Classic Series (among other things)
TheSkully343 Agreed. It would've been awesome if the show kept going on through the 90s and Doctor Who was still one whole show today.
The mid 80s were a great improvement over the early 80s
To St especially the special effects lol
It would've been interesting to see the Doctor taking Romana back to Gallifrey and for K-9 Mark 2 to meet his twin, K-9 Mark 1 and also to see how Leela and Andred are getting along. Would Romana be good friends with Leela if they got to meet after Romana got returned home whether she wanted to or not?
Well in Big Finish audios Romana eventually returns to Gallifrey and becomes Lord President with Leela as her personal bodyguard...so yes. I think she would
I just realized they don't show any of the other rooms on The Tardis in the new series of Dr Who they talk about them and they showed the hallways in a couple but that's it.
Loulou Willis Not much some rooms. One episode where Amy and Rory went around the TARDIS it hand old console room. In an episode called journey to the Centre of the TARDIS it shows some rooms.
Loulou Willis I prefer the old console room. 👍
Budget constraints?
New Who is crap.
We saw Adric's room and Nyssa's rooms in the Davison era
For most of Tom Baker's 7th & final season as the 4th Doctor Who,there were 2 coats on the hat & coat rack in the console room.
The best doc by far
"it isn't the end of the universe, we're home." Ah, but one day, perhaps...
I really like the look of the TARDIS bedrooms in this era of Doctor Who.
Romana didn‘t bother to think or care that the Doctor could be punished by the Time Lords if he didn‘t return her home to Gallifrey after they received a call from them ordering him to return her home. He was punished for interfering in the Universe‘s affairs,though he was later forgiven after he first saved them.
Remember Romana is only 124 years old, shes a college new grad on her first assignment, shes had her first taste of adult freedom and wants more. To go back and be responsible, is horrible to her, but yeah she doesnt seem to care the doctor would get in trouble if he didnt return her
This piece of Doctor Who reminds me of the TV version of Hitchhiker's Guide; the Kingsland electronic score and the effective (yet cheesy) special effects.
Even though the acting here is just fair, the whole thing is much better than what we get now.
srothbardt yup
The Doctor was so looking forward to seeing his old companion Leela and her husband Andred to see how they‘ve been doing and to see K-9 mark 2 meeting K-9 mark 1,who stayed on Gallifrey to look after Leela.
k-9 is a good doge
It's spelt DOG
Space Shark Productions But he said doge. Search up what it is.
Doge is a special spelling for meme kids.
@Sanjin Craft Affirmative!
Space Shark Productions
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I always liked the music from this season.
Watching this clip makes me want to travel with the fourth doctor and Romana
I like Romana's outfit.
Love how he shit his pants to those birds at the end XD did that the other day lol!
I’m hoping that the espace trilogy will get the special effects overhaul it deserves
Romana should‘ve realized that if the Doctor didn‘t return her to Gallifrey after they received a call from the Time Lords ordering her to return home,he would have to face their anger sooner or later for his failure to return her home.
If the Doctor told Romana that he might get into big trouble with the Time Lords should he fail to bring Romana back to Gallifrey after they got the summons to return her home,she probably would say that she doesn't care. She didn't want to return home after all that they've been through since she was chosen to help the Doctor find the Key To Time.
dang old skool doctor who is cool! i like how the tardis has bedrooms for companions. In New Who we never see what their bedrooms look like, plus i like the background too with lots of circles. I hope they bring something like that back too.
Though the 4th Doctor wore a burgundy coat and a black& burgundy scarf with his new style of clothing that included a shirt with a pair of red question marks on it,he left 2 frock coats hanging on the hat and coat rack in the TARDIS console room for some time.
Why does the 4th doctor's time in doctor who look so good?
0:34 He noticed K9 suddenly switched positions from the previous cut.
"you stay there"
Why the fuck have I only just realised Tom baker is the narrator in little Britain?
Slow developer?
I ship The Doctor and Romana
Lots of fans ship 4/Romana 2.
The actors were married at one point.
Yup.
@stephen noonan um no, this pairing was married in real life, so having them together was perfectly proper!
Who *doesn't* ship 'em? It's a great pairing due to the reality of Tom Baker's brief marriage to Lalla Ward. They *really* missed a trick when NuWho created River Song... they could've rethought all of 11 and 12's stories and reveal she was Romana and that the world in the Library was just a portal to E-Space... a reveal like that would've been EPIC for the lore of the show and elevated Who during it's consecutive low points in the new series...
Tom Baker is and always will be the REAL Dr. Who. It used to be a big Saturday night deal to go to a friends house with popcorn and other treats. It was a really big deal. Haven't watched much of that show since he left. All of the others that followed can't compare to what Tom Baker brought to the small screen in his portrayal of "THE DOCTOR". That's just how I feel.
DL Turner
He was the one who got me into Doctor Who, not to mention introduced us to Frankenstein himself,
Davros: Lord and Creator of the Dalek race.
Shut up, almost all of the incarnations are the "real" Dr. Who. Pertwee, Troughton, Davison, and even Colin are just as good as Tom. He's overrated because of how long he stayed. Not saying he isn't great, just that the others were just as great.
William Norton Morbius was Dr. Who's "Frankenstein." Davros is a whole different character.
I feel the same way about David Tennant but then Doctor Who didn't play on Canadian television in the 1970's so I was unaware of him or the show.
Our local PBS station showed it on Saturday afternoons, right around the time of the Baker/Davison regen. We'd get the complete serials over the course of several weeks, but they wouldn't always show them in the right order. So, you just had to go along with the fact that the guy who died last week was still alive this week.
It would‘ve been interesting for K-9 Mark 2 to meet his twin after the Doctor returned Romana to Gallifrey if the TARDIS did‘t enter E-Space by accident. He was looking forward to see his former assistant Leela & her mate Andred again.
I've heard that they do eventually meet in a Big Finish audio story.
I love that Classic Who used to show us Romana's bedroom.
N adric n nyssas room too
Great character development with Romana
...the clip at 0:56 ages a lot more awkwardly when you realize these two actors were divorcing from each other at the time this was filmed
The only complaint I have about E-space is that it should have been more hazardous. It would've been interesting if the Tardis had trouble flying through it.
david kelly wasn’t it said that since it was smaller it was actually easier to navigate through. Or am I making that up?
vivalapsych yes, it was smaller than our own N (for Normal) Space, K9 stated this in "State of Decay". I like it when people actually make efforts to do the research... mathematical badge of excellence right there mate...
techno156 maybe doctor 13 could find something in her part of the TARDIS that credit the E space hiccup
Well, that makes a change from yet another bloody quarry!!...
This is why I never let my dog drive!
Romana could‘ve gotten a lawyer on Gallifrey to try to fight for the right to explore the Universe with the Doctor as long as she likes after helping him look for the Key To Time. Romana didn‘t think of the possibility that the Doctor could get punished for failing to return her home after getting summoed to return. Good thing it didn‘t happen to him when his TARDIS got recalled a regeneration later on a different matter.
If the Doctor has brought her home. Romana would wait about 50 years and steal a TARDIS.
The e-space trilogy is underrated
Oh dear, another fuckwit trotting out the 'underrated' comment. Do you think you'll ever have an original thought?
She was, and still is, GORGEOUS!
I didn't like this series as much after John Nathan Turner took over as producer.
Notice the "Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy" music?
0:00 just wiping the console down to operate the damn tardis.
Wonder if they will ever use the concept of E Space again
Full Circle: Entering Doctor Who - E-Space
*love it*
Beautiful girl, Lalla.
As a Doctor/Romana shipper, I always get a bit emotional at this scene.
Something I can give the Classic Series that even if not too frequent, when they had emotional moments, they really left an impact.
Jamie and Zoe's goodbye still get me a little choked up.
You can really sense the emotion between them. It feels so real.
I suppose the fact that Tom and Lalla were married around this time probably helped with their performances.
94830 086436 It's probably the only ship that I support in Doctor Who. Because both characters are around 750 and have great chemistry together
I think she is 126
TARDIS has a girly bedroom.
tardis is going to become pink
That was Romana's taste.
We never see the Doctor's bedroom. Ever.
There was a time when pink was the manly color.
You do realize you're bitching without having seen more than a few promos and interviews, don't you?
There was also a time when the Time Rotor was pink during Season 19 ;-)
That's because it was a girl's bedroom...
I wonder if the doctor intentionally got stuck in E space so he didn’t have to give Romana back.
I like to think that myself.
lol or Romana messed with the console when the doctor wasn't looking to get out of going back.
no but the TARDIS did, remember it IS alive
No. Clearly not.
Two aliens and their robot dog flying through space 😊
Whoniversal fate intervened and did Romana justice. It was also nice though to have her return to Gallifrey thanks to Big Finish as the President. The E-Space trilogy was John Nathan-Turner's best Doctor Who contribution as producer.
Mike Basil
Romana being President blew my mind, but it shouldn't be much of a surprise.
It's nothing more than fan-service. If Romana ever did reach the office of the presidency, at least Big Finish could've shown us the circumstances leading to her ascendance.
Glad you shared this.
I have a 1980s battery operated K9, yes master and mistress.😀
1:45 some random "Hitchhiker's Guide" music shows up.
paul coy Same composer as Hitchhiker's Guide
Paddy Kingsland.
I believe he also composed for The Boy From Space (Look and Read)
Was this story one of Douglas Adams?
@@colinp2238 no, it was a story idea from a fan, Andrew Smith, called the planet that slept.
Romana's room was very smart.
2018 and I still can't have my own K-9. Come on scientists, pull your fingers out
3:16 it's not the end of the Universe, we are home.
In the future that home is at the end of the Universe
Holy smokes you can see clean through the base of the console at 2:43
Then she became President of the planet complete w/ her and Leela joining forces long after the return from E-Space
Strange that the Doctor didn't try to contact the Time Lords for help after he, Romana and K-9 went into E-Space by accident on their way back to Gallifrey after getting a call to return.
I kind of miss this season.
Then again I miss everything that had Adric a part of it....
Ouch... Except that part. 💔
Wouldn't it be nice if some Doctor would go back and give him a better bye?
Is Adric amongst anyone else's top 3 companions to date (He's tied with Jamie for #1)?
he's in my top 10 but in terms of Who I view him as the most integral companion of the show... forget Donna being the most important human of time and space or Martha dunking on the Master... Adric straight up became God Tier... if it wasn't for his slightly inept heroism the human race wouldn't have even existed...
@@JoesAnimationHub
I loved how he constantly observed the 4th Doctor closely and gradually became more and more like him. It's understandable how he became rather testy with The Doctor after he regenerated, first keeping a close eye on him through the process then entering a sort of rebellious teen stage when he didn't like how different the 5th Doctor was in terms of character.
Adric was like that small part of the 4th Doctor we no longer had by the end of his role.
I don't like how it turned into a episode of full house before they even landed
My, oh my!!!
And to think, they were married in real life for a time. Some things aren't meant to be forever.
Then married Mr. Eugenics
Even if the Doctor did bring Romana back to Gallifrey after getting the summons to return her,would she dare challenge the Time Lords to continue roaming the Universe with the Doctor? The Doctor fought them when he was put on trial for interfering in the Universe's affairs after he called them for help to return many soldiers from different wars in Earth's history who were kidnapped by aliens with the help of the War Chief,an evil renegade Time Lord,and lost the battle against his people after they helped him return the soldiers to Earth. Romana would probably be locked up if she defied the Time Lords.
Who knows why the Doctor had 2 frock coats and a scarf hanging on a hat and coat rack in the TARDIS console room after he changed his clothes and was dressed mostly in red?
The Doctor could've hypnotized Romana to go back to Gallifrey after she said that she didn't want to go back. The Doctor didn't even bother to try to call on the Time Lords to help him after he, Romana & K-9 went into E-Space by mistake.
It's hard for me to imagine the Fourth Doctor saying things like he's looking forward to seeing how Leela and Andred were getting on. That's the type of pointless continuity which can get in the way (although it was nice to hear Leela being mentioned - I think they asked her to return for this series or the next one didn't they?).
They asked her and Sarah to return in the finale episodes to help bridge the gap of 4 turning to 5, however they both declinded, hence bringing in the 3 new companions.
Omg this is like one of the few times we see a bedroom in the tardis
So we learn the original coordinates of Gallefrey.😎
classic who always had the coordinates for Gallefrey!
I love Season 18, even if I think it was a bit of an overreaction to the Williams-era’s comic excesses.
GalliFREE & GalliFRAY = ToMATE-O & To-MAH-TO
Don't give the dog the keys.
Surely Romana should‘ve thought that if the Doctor didn‘t return her to Gallifrey after they received a summons from the Time Lords,the Doctor would get severely punished. He lost his 2nd life after being sentenced to exile on 20th Century Earth for a long time for interfering in the Universe‘s affairs.
Maybe but Romana might have also been naive about the timelords and what they would do.
Is it me or is Baker dressed subtley different? Different color scheme
Yes, the scarf most notably. This maroon ensemble pops up again at the start of the Seventh Doctor. He tries on the outfit while searching for his own costumed look.
The maroon coat also shows up in "Mawdryn Undead" - Mawdryn wears it when he tricks Tegan, Nyssa, and the Brigadier into thinking he (Mawdryn) is the Doctor having just regenerated.
yes, this was his burgundy phase as opposed to his tanned phase he had for 5 years!
this actor reminds me of Peter Capaldi
@ uh no, not even close! Capapldi has the age and the gravitas to blend with the early doctors, hes the only modern doctor I believe as the doctor, his face finally matches his age, I believe him as the nearly 3000 year old time lord (and, no, i did not miscount!)
agreed!
old doctor who episodes best now shit episodes
k-9 what are you doing?
Never noticed K9s joke at 2:50 odd. Don’t think Baker did either!
stephen noonan yeeeas perhaps you are right.
Romana! This isn't Kansas!
Romana is a very sexy companion
Lucky old Doctor travelling with posh classy ladies
Why is it every time the doctor is travelling with another TimeLord/Lady, The tardis doesn't make the wheezing sound? XD
because it is a TIME LADY very clever , top of her class! And she took the hand brake off!!!!!!
is k9 come back new doctor who
What's the name of this episode? Looks so good!
...it's literally in the title of the video.
Jay Tender It was called Full Circle.
Tom Baker with the best ever doctor followed by David Tennant
Nah fam smith takes #1
@@cubersanonymous5180 nope, not even close Tom Baker will forever be THE doctor, followed by Capaldi, then Matt then Jon then David!
agreed!, though Capaldi in 2nd!
@@julieeverett7442 that's your opinion.
@@cubersanonymous5180 yes, and everyone has their favourite doctor and 4th is mine, if you like 11th that ok too!
in invasion of time why dident the doctor get his chemilian fixed
Are those the same coordinates Missy gave in Death in Heaven?
Tom looks very gaunt in this last series don’t you think?
John Galantini He was ill at the time. So ill he lost the curls in his hair and it ended up being permed for the rest of the series
Doctor: you can meet your twin K-9
lol imgen k-9 mk 1 meets mk 2
Gabriel Nolan It happens in an audio book, they don't get along
do they shoot each other LOL
Gabriel Nolan I don't believe so. They mostly just argue. Like have you seen Sarah Jane Adventures? If so remember how k9 and Mr.Smith acted? Like that
@@Sonicbolt456 I've seen most of it because some of my family as watched it.... but i heard when K-9 returned everyone was glad to have him back and Mr.Smith Wasn't...
that's what you get for letting a dog pilot the ship. not in kansas anymore.
The Doctor could‘ve tried to contat the Time Lords for help after the TARDIS with him,Romana & K-9 aboard went into E-Space,but it probably wouldn‘t work. Romana should‘ve realized that if the Doctor doesn‘t return her to Gallifrey after they received a summons from them,they would‘ve punished him for his failure to bring her home long after her helping him find the Key to Time was done.
I doubt The Doctor would've really wanted to contact the Time Lords given his shaky reputation with the Time Lords as it is.
This is the Doctor. He only calls the Time Lords when there's nothing more he can do, then makes himself scarce ASAP.
maybe the timelords still needed the doctors and Romanas help and the summons was a ruse but they instead secretly sent them into e space because they found out or knew the king vampire was about to wake up and swarm back into n space and the time lords sent them to deal with it because the next story after was the dr leaving e space but to n space with romana staying behind its just a drwho theory of mine
Or the wonky TARDIS slipped into E-space on the way back to Gallifrey. They were perfectly capable of dealing with the lead vampire themselves.
@@julietfischer5056 remember the TARDIS is alive, she doesnt always take him where he wants to go but where he NEEDS to go