Macro, this was a great and wonderful walkthrough of how we could dive deep into theory-crafting and understand the pathing and selection of boards. I really appreciate you taking the time to go through the pathing decisions, especially the shot where you showed pathing through boards and ended up with 35 points to spend, it really showed the priorities and how to think about how to spend your points. Very well done!!!! Rather than see this for each class, I'd love to see a Part 2 where you dive a bit deeper with one build, say Bone Spirit. I can imagine starting with a blank slate and asking - which glyphs do we want in this build and figuring out a priority for which to include/ignore, then same with the legendary nodes. The math of whether it's better to include more legendary nodes vs. glyphs is the hard part for me to grok, as you do sometimes see boards with only 6 glyphs and more legendary nodes.
OMG! This is great. This is a video that could have saved me like 20 hours. Even though I consider myself well understanding when it comes to necro paragon boards there are still a few things I learned. I also realized that boards have an efficiency depending on if a glyph needs int or will or dex as well as the order the boards are in and I knew this well but I never took the time learn what was what and I thought it would only benefit maybe 10 points but I now see I was wrong. Thank you for you work.
Thank you so much for this video. The paragon board's concept is simple enough to understand but the efficiency was a struggle with my limited play time available. Trying to balance glyph to board order, trying to get the double rare buff. Plus I didn't realize the damage nodes were additive so I thought they had more value. While copying a build can be nice, I've found that either through a lack of gear luck, glyph levels, or simply a play style preference needing to tweak affixes and paragon to be able to enjoy a character. I very much appreciate the knowledge to better use the paragon system and be able to build my own character. Plus I've always enjoyed finding a way to make something that isn't the meta efficient enough to surprise people.
This so far is definitely an underappreciated diamond in the rough. An absolute gem of a d4 UA-cam video! Thanks for taking the time to explain some of this shit... I recently created my first paragon board for a build that was significantly different than something I saw on Maxroll etc... this helps, but honestly I wish somebody smarter than me could figure things out to fully take advantage of a variation of a build that nobody has pushed to its full potential yet
The man the myth the Excel Legend MacroBioBoi! This should have been the in game guide for this core feature!! We really need this adapted for every class!! I am so happy for you that you got to test the new Class! Will it be a class that would make you not play Necromancer for a while ? Be safe and take care, if we loose you the D4 world would be in a sad sad place! And in general you are a great human being !!
This is dope. Looking forward to not looking at build guides for spirit born on launch. I feel like youve given us all the tools to make a maxroll guide ourselves.
I always use your "Paragon glyph socket table" sheet trying to theorycraft my own builds. But needless to say, my boards pathing was bad ^^'. Finally got the time to watch this video, and this is exactly what I needed to improve ! Extremely precise and well made ! I would love to see similar sheet for the other classes. Thank you for sharing your knowledge !
Thank you again for a very helpful video! I’ll be saving this for future reference. I’m yet to use a planner, but after your brief tips on its use, I’ll give it a go on the weekend 🙂 Looking forward to seeing more insightful sharing from your good self 🙌🏻
I don’t understand why we have caps. We should be able to play any build we want this includes a tank and we shouldn’t have to stack life to do so . Why can’t we increase armor as well ? The ideal tank would have a ton of life, armor, resistances, and dmg reduction.
this is a great educational video. i suggest adding a worked example demonstrating ur thought process on for instance how u follow/break ur rules, how u compromise one choice over another. i suggest using overpower bone spirit with minions, 1 min roll armor affix, no all res affix, min roll int affixes (if any). amplify, corporeal, deadraiser, dominate, essence, exploit, maybe control; bone graft, blood bath, scent of death, flesheater on whatever boards that optimize this setup. these requirements maybe difficult but this is the nature of optimizing. that's why some people's builds are underperforming.
This is amazing content, thank you. I am a Druid main and we have some great creators like Ace but we dont have anyone that actually goes into detail breaking stuff down like this. I would gladly pay you to do this for Druids 😂 I am using Stormslide build with only 5 glyphs but 4 legendary nodes and having the tools for Druid that you habe put out there for Necros would be beyond amazing.
To me, it's tragic that in 2024 Diablo is still a game of multipliers. I think that such an approach to accumulating power in an ARPG makes it sterile and emotionless. When I play an ARPG, I want to reinforce the fantasy for a character through skills, mechanics, lore. Systems like the paragon board should be yet another tool to help us reach that goal. If I were to change the paragon system, I would move the skill modifiers we had in Diablo III there. Let me transform my skills by choosing one path on the board or another. Let me pursue my fantasy and evolve it rather than seek the best mathematical formula to optimize the multipliers.
Great vid but i dont understand the last example you showed when flipping the board. From top to bottom (or bottom to top) you spent the same amount of points.
Just a follow up comment... yeah, after watching this front to back I redid the original paragon setup I had and ended up grabbing an extra legendary power and a 7th glyph for my rabies shred build for s5 :)
I found it funny so many people were like "POE destroyed D4" because they are comparing a class reveal to a expansion reveal, when the expansion reveal is next month lol
I’d be interested in a Sorc explanation. I have a pretty efficient build, but still had to put topaz in most of my gear to build up intelligence to meet caps.
What i would be very interested in learning is when do you choose one stat over an other. For example you talked about a bone spirit build using overpower to deal damage. How does a player who wants to build their own build knows to focus on overpower? The game doesnt tell you? Then later you were talking about intelligence being way more valuable than willpower which would boost overpower damage. How can a non-content creator player arrive at that conclusion absent of someone at maxroll telling him?
amazing video, but u did made a small little mistake :D when explaining tip 5, the wp node up is of less important then the int left of the glyph, and they are either way the same points. ie left int then up take the uncommon, and proceed to path left and take the rare on the way. You took wp up then rare etc. But i do it basicly just the same, with all these little tips in the back of my mind.
It's not wrong, it's just not crazy valuable in many cases so if you really hate dungeons you can skip it if you aren't going to be pushing the hardest Pit.
This will be great for every class.......... After the Expansion. I don't think you should spend time on this for season 5 when Season 6 is going to obliterate the systems with almost 100% certainty
lizzard: "Hey guys, Season 5 is a TON of work. We had to recolor Hell Tides AGAIN! The color theory and consultants we needed to make it a slightly deeper shade of red would blow your mind."
Macro, this was a great and wonderful walkthrough of how we could dive deep into theory-crafting and understand the pathing and selection of boards. I really appreciate you taking the time to go through the pathing decisions, especially the shot where you showed pathing through boards and ended up with 35 points to spend, it really showed the priorities and how to think about how to spend your points. Very well done!!!!
Rather than see this for each class, I'd love to see a Part 2 where you dive a bit deeper with one build, say Bone Spirit. I can imagine starting with a blank slate and asking - which glyphs do we want in this build and figuring out a priority for which to include/ignore, then same with the legendary nodes. The math of whether it's better to include more legendary nodes vs. glyphs is the hard part for me to grok, as you do sometimes see boards with only 6 glyphs and more legendary nodes.
OMG! This is great. This is a video that could have saved me like 20 hours. Even though I consider myself well understanding when it comes to necro paragon boards there are still a few things I learned. I also realized that boards have an efficiency depending on if a glyph needs int or will or dex as well as the order the boards are in and I knew this well but I never took the time learn what was what and I thought it would only benefit maybe 10 points but I now see I was wrong. Thank you for you work.
Thank you so much for this video. The paragon board's concept is simple enough to understand but the efficiency was a struggle with my limited play time available. Trying to balance glyph to board order, trying to get the double rare buff. Plus I didn't realize the damage nodes were additive so I thought they had more value.
While copying a build can be nice, I've found that either through a lack of gear luck, glyph levels, or simply a play style preference needing to tweak affixes and paragon to be able to enjoy a character. I very much appreciate the knowledge to better use the paragon system and be able to build my own character. Plus I've always enjoyed finding a way to make something that isn't the meta efficient enough to surprise people.
This so far is definitely an underappreciated diamond in the rough. An absolute gem of a d4 UA-cam video!
Thanks for taking the time to explain some of this shit... I recently created my first paragon board for a build that was significantly different than something I saw on Maxroll etc... this helps, but honestly I wish somebody smarter than me could figure things out to fully take advantage of a variation of a build that nobody has pushed to its full potential yet
That would be amazing for each class
agreed!
Agreed
Would love that!
Absolutely yes pls!
The man the myth the Excel Legend MacroBioBoi! This should have been the in game guide for this core feature!! We really need this adapted for every class!! I am so happy for you that you got to test the new Class! Will it be a class that would make you not play Necromancer for a while ? Be safe and take care, if we loose you the D4 world would be in a sad sad place! And in general you are a great human being !!
Nothing will take me from the Necro but I intend on playing a lot of the spiritborn
This is dope. Looking forward to not looking at build guides for spirit born on launch. I feel like youve given us all the tools to make a maxroll guide ourselves.
I'm definitely just going to keep copying your build. But thanks for the lesson 😅.
😂
I always use your "Paragon glyph socket table" sheet trying to theorycraft my own builds. But needless to say, my boards pathing was bad ^^'.
Finally got the time to watch this video, and this is exactly what I needed to improve ! Extremely precise and well made !
I would love to see similar sheet for the other classes. Thank you for sharing your knowledge !
Thank you again for a very helpful video! I’ll be saving this for future reference. I’m yet to use a planner, but after your brief tips on its use, I’ll give it a go on the weekend 🙂 Looking forward to seeing more insightful sharing from your good self 🙌🏻
I don’t understand why we have caps. We should be able to play any build we want this includes a tank and we shouldn’t have to stack life to do so . Why can’t we increase armor as well ? The ideal tank would have a ton of life, armor, resistances, and dmg reduction.
Learned so much. Thank you. I am one of those players who refuse to watch ultimate build content. I want to learn and figure out rather than copy.
Thanks for this, having some rules of thumb really helps take some complexity out of designing my own build.
Cheering loudly for the data charts!!! Thank you for your content it has helped me be more efficient in my builds and helped immensly.
this is a great educational video.
i suggest adding a worked example demonstrating ur thought process on for instance how u follow/break ur rules, how u compromise one choice over another. i suggest using overpower bone spirit with minions, 1 min roll armor affix, no all res affix, min roll int affixes (if any). amplify, corporeal, deadraiser, dominate, essence, exploit, maybe control; bone graft, blood bath, scent of death, flesheater on whatever boards that optimize this setup.
these requirements maybe difficult but this is the nature of optimizing. that's why some people's builds are underperforming.
I’m not really a necro main but this video and your newer one about specifically necro paragon are very helpful. Many thanks
This is amazing content, thank you. I am a Druid main and we have some great creators like Ace but we dont have anyone that actually goes into detail breaking stuff down like this. I would gladly pay you to do this for Druids 😂 I am using Stormslide build with only 5 glyphs but 4 legendary nodes and having the tools for Druid that you habe put out there for Necros would be beyond amazing.
To me, it's tragic that in 2024 Diablo is still a game of multipliers. I think that such an approach to accumulating power in an ARPG makes it sterile and emotionless.
When I play an ARPG, I want to reinforce the fantasy for a character through skills, mechanics, lore. Systems like the paragon board should be yet another tool to help us reach that goal.
If I were to change the paragon system, I would move the skill modifiers we had in Diablo III there. Let me transform my skills by choosing one path on the board or another.
Let me pursue my fantasy and evolve it rather than seek the best mathematical formula to optimize the multipliers.
Single handed, the best video for all theory crafters wannabe like me! Good work as always
Great vid but i dont understand the last example you showed when flipping the board. From top to bottom (or bottom to top) you spent the same amount of points.
Just a follow up comment... yeah, after watching this front to back I redid the original paragon setup I had and ended up grabbing an extra legendary power and a 7th glyph for my rabies shred build for s5 :)
Appreciate the insight, enjoy looking at all the builds on maxroll but still like to try making my own builds. Great video!
Great stuff thx! Hope this gets a season 6 / VoH update!
Excellent video! Really explains things to us laymen. Thank you Mac.
This was really good. Thank you.
Np fam
This was extremely insightful, would you be able to share what the rest of the Excel sheet categories were?
Great video Mac, well done!
hell yeah homie keep it up
I found it funny so many people were like "POE destroyed D4" because they are comparing a class reveal to a expansion reveal, when the expansion reveal is next month lol
but poe revealed season update, it's completely free and feels like amount of content compares with entire d4 game
stop, its ok. poe is the better game, that doesnt mean people cant play both.
@@activoDS I play both. Just want d4 be better than its now
Well, if it makes you feel better, poe players are migrating to d4 due to the issues the game has.
I’d be interested in a Sorc explanation. I have a pretty efficient build, but still had to put topaz in most of my gear to build up intelligence to meet caps.
I’m also aware that most of this will likely change with the expansion, but will likely still apply.
Thanks so much! Your contents are always very, very interesting (I'm sorry for my bad english)
please do this for Druid
Other classes please! This was great
What i would be very interested in learning is when do you choose one stat over an other. For example you talked about a bone spirit build using overpower to deal damage. How does a player who wants to build their own build knows to focus on overpower? The game doesnt tell you? Then later you were talking about intelligence being way more valuable than willpower which would boost overpower damage. How can a non-content creator player arrive at that conclusion absent of someone at maxroll telling him?
The answer is doing the math. I have a damage calculation breakdown video that could add to your knowledge on this subject.
Greatest ever! Thumbs up/shared let's go
Perfect, just what I needed after your damage guide! Do you think the new paragon system for s5 will change these principles by the way?
Perhaps, and if they do, I'll make a new video once I feel confident about my approach in that system.
@@MacroBioBoi Thanks a lot! Appreciate your lessons
amazing video, but u did made a small little mistake :D when explaining tip 5, the wp node up is of less important then the int left of the glyph, and they are either way the same points. ie left int then up take the uncommon, and proceed to path left and take the rare on the way. You took wp up then rare etc. But i do it basicly just the same, with all these little tips in the back of my mind.
Can Macro just be the class dev. Please.
My favorite d4 build is a lightning druid. I just sit back cast and stay alive. None of that shape shifting stuff.
Bone prison seems to be not counting as minions atleasr in regards to deathspeaker pendant for me.
Gosh, the is so valuable, thanks!
Thanks a lot, Sir!
Also, why does theorycrafters stack so much crit damage%? Wouldn't regular damage% do the same?
Depends on the build, but with 100% chance to crit, the crit damage value on gear and tempers is always a larger number than generic damage.
Why did Bliz provide magic (blue) and rare (yellow) glyphs if there is no reason to use them due to a legendary always being better?
There are not currently any legendary glyphs in the game.
So, I was told to level glyphs up to 21. Is that not correct?
It's not wrong, it's just not crazy valuable in many cases so if you really hate dungeons you can skip it if you aren't going to be pushing the hardest Pit.
Thanks!
Thanks for the support!
So many content creators not following the rule of 5 out there. You hate to see it.
Rip
This will be great for every class.......... After the Expansion. I don't think you should spend time on this for season 5 when Season 6 is going to obliterate the systems with almost 100% certainty
Wait - there are +life nodes on paragon boards?
- a Sorc Player
xD
Sorc can't complain. Every other rare node says damage reduction which is significantly more valuable.
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WTH is a Grock?
To grock something is to understand it.
@@MacroBioBoi OOhhh, I grock you now.
@@infectedmethod GG!
Yeah, max life can make up for deficiency elsewhere.
lizzard: "Hey guys, Season 5 is a TON of work. We had to recolor Hell Tides AGAIN! The color theory and consultants we needed to make it a slightly deeper shade of red would blow your mind."