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Father Divine - Movers & Makers (2020)

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  • Опубліковано 24 чер 2020
  • Controversial religious leader Father Divine leaves behind a complicated legacy.
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  • @athorpe630
    @athorpe630 2 роки тому +20

    You people have to realize that back then,people were in a depression, and people were desperate, for food and a place to stay.And he seemed to be, able to provide this for them.Even though,most of the funds came from them,turning over there,life savings to him.He brainwashed them so bad,they couldn't put the two together.But they were seeking someone, to follow to led them,so to speak.

    • @trevorjennings721
      @trevorjennings721 Рік тому

      Hello Ann, how are you doing today, hope you’re fine and safe from the Virus??

    • @user-hy1od6by1w
      @user-hy1od6by1w 3 місяці тому

      What's people's excuse today following Joel olsteen, crefflo dollar, Benny hynn, etc etc? 🤔

  • @haroldgoodman130
    @haroldgoodman130 13 днів тому +1

    One of the greatest men who ever lived.
    No one can deny his greatness.

  • @Pathfinder2992
    @Pathfinder2992 2 роки тому +26

    Never heard of him in Texas, but my mother did like a NYC evangelist/preacher named Reverend Ike. He was originally from South Carolina. I thought she liked him because he was good looking as a young man. But now in my old age, I realize he knew & said things about GOD in HIGHER CONSCIOUSNESS, that most preachers don't know or won't say. Yet this Father divine made far more money. I don't know where ALL the wealth came from or where invested, but it seems well accumulated...still like a cult, if MARRIED couples could NOT be together, but he could. Obviously pretty powerful on the East Coast. 🙏🏽

    • @eleanorturner4651
      @eleanorturner4651 2 роки тому

      I too have seen in person this Reverend Ike in my opinion he was the biggest phony that ever picked up a Bible but my grandmother was a faithful follower until her eyes open thank you Father God before she passed he used to hold services at 46th and Market the old Arena and my grandmother would drag me right along with her but the sad thing was many people were given their own I sent a couple of ladies who shoes needed to be repaired and that coach was thin and it was cold but yes his wife had on Nick around the collar of her suit jacket the tale of her skirt and a couple of her jacket milk and he said give to God because God needed their money I was so disgusted I told my grandmother I don't want to go back I will not go back and I didn't

    • @THEOLYMPIAGUY360
      @THEOLYMPIAGUY360 Рік тому +1

      It is a cult divine and jim jones were partners. Divine taught jones everything he knew He got his money the same way Jones did, by convincing there imbeciles to sell all their worldly possessions and giving them the money.

    • @simplyputmusings2948
      @simplyputmusings2948 8 місяців тому

      😂 umm you clearly don't know anything about Ike. 😂 Yeah, younguns will always come to their own conclusions due to their ignorance of the e FACTS of the past. You're next. 😂 Keep supporting him. You're next! 😂😂😂

  • @g1st233
    @g1st233 2 роки тому +41

    Matthew 24:4-5
    [4]And Jesus answered and said unto them, Take heed that no man deceive you.
    [5]For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many.
    2 Corinthians 11:13-15
    [13]For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ.
    [14]And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.
    [15]Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works.

  • @peterhamlinhamlin8908
    @peterhamlinhamlin8908 2 роки тому +21

    He opened restaurants barber shops
    Hotels churches he brought self esteem and peace to .....thousands,
    millions and good food on 125th Street when I was hungry.

  • @johnmason6645
    @johnmason6645 2 роки тому +25

    Jim Jones was a student of his.

  • @SpocksBabeSonyaSB
    @SpocksBabeSonyaSB 2 роки тому +67

    Continued … He didn’t approve of social security, health insurance or personal bank accounts. When his followers became ill, they were thrown in hospitals and nursing homes for the government to pay for medical care (like my Grandmother) who I never got to know until she was thrown in one in 2007. I was denied having her as my family until I was 44 (in 2007). He broke up families and used their wives, women and female children for his pleasures. I could go on, and I’m going to on other platforms. Enough is enough!

    • @wallflowercam
      @wallflowercam 2 роки тому +22

      Same thing happened to my great grandmother and great aunt. We need more of the families affected need to tell our stories.

    • @kenwilliams3546
      @kenwilliams3546 2 роки тому +5

      He was just just another Poverty Pimp. People should buy that so called hotel and then TEAR it DOWN, then sell the land and get their money back!

    • @necieden
      @necieden 2 роки тому +7

      Thank you for sharing. I am a believer in JESUS Christ and pray the people accept God's sovereignty not man's. I respect their faithfulness in what they believe.

    • @jc9240
      @jc9240 2 роки тому +1

      Wow! Wow!! Wow!!!.....SMH 7x7!

    • @staceystace5468
      @staceystace5468 2 роки тому +6

      So sorry all parties involved experienced such wickedness. I remember going to the annex bldg after school with my sister. Ms. Love one of his followers use to help us with our homework.

  • @bigredd7691
    @bigredd7691 2 роки тому +29

    How could a human being that comes from dust claim to be God almighty that's blasphemy !!

    • @VapelifeX
      @VapelifeX 2 роки тому +7

      'If we were made in his image, then call us by our name'
      - Erykah Badu

    • @LittySmitty
      @LittySmitty 2 роки тому +1

      At the sametime the creator never called himself God!

    • @83wasagoodyear
      @83wasagoodyear 2 роки тому +1

      He never himself claimed to be God.

    • @ashiacameron
      @ashiacameron 2 роки тому +1

      @@VapelifeX call us by our mf name babyyyy

  • @voteeffevansfinancialfreed190
    @voteeffevansfinancialfreed190 3 роки тому +19

    Thank you for making this movie, where can I get the Full movie,,,,
    Depression was the catalyst, for him to feed, clothe and shelter them amidst growing poverty, he must have been god to them,,,,, I do understand why he was GOD,,,,,
    Loads of love from South Africa

  • @PastorRichardAllenFarmer
    @PastorRichardAllenFarmer 2 роки тому +3

    Correction: Mother Divine died in 2017 NOT 2018, as stated at 1:41.

  • @LDTOK-zs8oz
    @LDTOK-zs8oz 2 роки тому +13

    As PT Barnum said," A sucker is born every minute".

  • @garrettdavis6500
    @garrettdavis6500 10 місяців тому +1

    I remember this guy. ( Vaguely) from when I was a kid. His "legacy" was still around.

  • @clarkkent8456
    @clarkkent8456 2 роки тому +24

    Jim Jones followed him and started the same methodology in his cult.

    • @naturalwoman3552
      @naturalwoman3552 2 роки тому +5

      Yes, but he didn't kill his followers like Jim did.

    • @83wasagoodyear
      @83wasagoodyear 2 роки тому +6

      Jim Jones was nothing like Father Divine. Not even close.

    • @adi7722
      @adi7722 2 роки тому +1

      And Jim Jones took a few of his older followers, which later died in Jonestown.

    • @athorpe630
      @athorpe630 2 роки тому +2

      @@83wasagoodyear No but both were cults just the same.

    • @deaneawilliams2272
      @deaneawilliams2272 2 роки тому

      People use the word cult to lightly when it comes down to people of power. Modern day Pastors take people's money and use the same mind techniques, with no kind remorse or guilt.

  • @workingharder412
    @workingharder412 2 роки тому +1

    Amazing

  • @kwasimensah6013
    @kwasimensah6013 2 роки тому +4

    I knew about Father Divine, years ago.

  • @igdes1
    @igdes1 Рік тому +2

    The judge in that suit died two days after his verdict. FD said he hated to do it. Can't believe buddy missed that in editing.

    • @redblackandgreen1117
      @redblackandgreen1117 5 місяців тому

      He didn't miss that. You are referring to another incidents.

  • @oldtimereligion1stlady447
    @oldtimereligion1stlady447 2 роки тому +11

    Ive never heard of him🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

    • @joeannguy4839
      @joeannguy4839 2 роки тому +2

      Yes you have Bishop TD…Bishop Noel… need I go on???

    • @THEOLYMPIAGUY360
      @THEOLYMPIAGUY360 Рік тому +1

      Jim Jones was his protégé.

  • @cchoice4919
    @cchoice4919 2 роки тому +13

    the HOST sounds jealous or MAD...im going with jealous😂😂😂😂

  • @kennethbrown5606
    @kennethbrown5606 2 роки тому +8

    He not God he died

  • @Torrebrannon
    @Torrebrannon 3 роки тому +18

    I choose to focus on his attributes, eradicating racism (in his circles), encouraging financial responsibility, prosperity, and political engagement. Personally, I don't adhere to man made, organized religion, "Spirituality" is more to my liking. However, at the same time, I do not judge others for what they choose to believe, so, as far as them calling him GOD, adhering to Celibacy as a way of life, separating from their birth families, (I Personally don't agree with it) but, its their individual choice, to each his own.
    The most incredible thing about him was how he avoiding the racist system trying to bring him down, and lived according to his own rules. Plus, when that crooked judge dropped dead after messing with him, well, you know..

    • @SalemGurl8701
      @SalemGurl8701 2 роки тому +4

      Do more research about him...thank me later lol

    • @83wasagoodyear
      @83wasagoodyear 2 роки тому

      Oh yeah he did a lot of good for the people.

  • @spirithawk2418
    @spirithawk2418 2 роки тому +5

    Its called DISCIPLINE.

  • @jayonnaj18
    @jayonnaj18 2 роки тому +29

    I've heard of the fake Father Divine, and was a youngster when my parents talked about how false he was----not in front of us kids, though, but as it used to be said, "little pitchers have big ears!" LOL!!!

    • @kimlee7260
      @kimlee7260 2 роки тому

      Lol forsure my mom said that too

    • @aunteepsalmsfasting
      @aunteepsalmsfasting 2 роки тому +2

      But, he literally feed people, housed them secured employment for them.

  • @antonioshawel4774
    @antonioshawel4774 3 роки тому +6

    Father Devine was a student of Prophet Nobel Drew ALI

    • @lwbhslgy6722
      @lwbhslgy6722 3 роки тому +1

      Facts

    • @Chance216703
      @Chance216703 3 роки тому +1

      Really .... I would like to know more information on that connection

    • @mrme2653
      @mrme2653 2 роки тому +3

      No proof of that!!!!

    • @Kevin-zu4zl
      @Kevin-zu4zl 2 роки тому +3

      No he wasn't!

    • @trubeliever9853
      @trubeliever9853 2 роки тому +1

      Totally different philosophy’s
      An INTENTIONS…You had a chance with Drew Ali, with father Divine, it’s a whole nother story.

  • @lighttajiribey4221
    @lighttajiribey4221 5 місяців тому

    Apostle Paul declared his nationality in Philippians 3:5-6 and Acts 21:39. Respectfully, Will you all address the topic of Nationality since we are not [NEGRO, BLACK, COLORED, NOR AFRICAN AMERICAN]? Millions of us did not come here on slave ships but we have been here on our land at America since time immemorial. Will the church speak to this topic? The topic is important and relevant.

  • @ellew4573
    @ellew4573 Рік тому +2

    There is only one God and that is Heavenly Father.

  • @Thefrmgallery
    @Thefrmgallery Рік тому +1

    🦅🐍

  • @1onlypogreed54
    @1onlypogreed54 2 роки тому +6

    Seem like a disciplined Man who had his stuff together had power without deception or people suffering even Hitler knew to feed people so did Christ

    • @THEOLYMPIAGUY360
      @THEOLYMPIAGUY360 Рік тому +1

      He also was a great admire of hitler a bi sexual and the real founder of the peoples temple. Maybe you should join up. 😂

  • @miladejong5831
    @miladejong5831 3 роки тому +30

    These kind of people are dangerous and hypocritical. I'm sure he had a lot of secrets blehg this is why I don't do religion, it's all fake and all about abuse

    • @RacerNight86
      @RacerNight86 3 роки тому

      You are a fool

    • @kenwilliams3546
      @kenwilliams3546 2 роки тому

      @@RacerNight86 why she a fool?

    • @williamevans7726
      @williamevans7726 2 роки тому

      Honey, you sho'nuff right about dat!! Organised religion is certainly one of the WORST (and effective) forms of brainwashing known to mankind.. People who claim to be "religious" ALWAYS give me the creeps.. Many of these folks behave like robots!! Literally.. And yes, the level of hypocrisy is beyond disgusting.. It's as if members of these various "Christian sects" have completely lost the ability to reason or to think critically.. I don't understand how so many people from different backgrounds & various social classes allow themselves to be shamelessly manipulated due primarily to the personality of a single individual.. Is that weird or what? Religion is synonymous with the word CULT.. That in itself says it all..

    • @thewholeninelives
      @thewholeninelives 2 роки тому

      And Science is about the survival of the fittest. Religion(Christianity) is pure. People aren't. Find me faults in Jesus Christ walk...... don't use this man to denote something pure.

    • @THEOLYMPIAGUY360
      @THEOLYMPIAGUY360 Рік тому

      Say the Atheist that’s never even cracked the Bible.😂

  • @kathleen1499
    @kathleen1499 2 роки тому +6

    This was a cult.

    • @trevorjennings721
      @trevorjennings721 Рік тому

      Hello Kathleen, how are you doing today, hope you’re fine and safe from the Virus??

  • @thewholeninelives
    @thewholeninelives 2 роки тому +8

    It's apparent that women are easily deceived just as Eve was in the garden of eden. He appealed to the emotions of the women. But the Husband is supposed to be his wife's covering and Jesus Christ is his.
    If you can't recognize the devil without his horns..... then you're in trouble. Their is only one that's Devine.

    • @THEOLYMPIAGUY360
      @THEOLYMPIAGUY360 Рік тому

      Oh he loved the men to just as his partner Jim Jones they were both bi sexual.

    • @simplyputmusings2948
      @simplyputmusings2948 8 місяців тому

      That's the description of a weak behind man. Mouth , head and heart filled with why he is incapable of doing his part. Always blaming someone else. That's because their souls are black and void of anything supernatural.

  • @thegamingchef3304
    @thegamingchef3304 2 роки тому +2

    My church was integrated as early as the 1920s. Except we didn't & don't believe in interracial relationships such as marrying outside your race and dating outside your race. We believe God created man and woman for each race. And we certainly believe in procreation...The Lord said be fruitful and multiply. This man was being lead by himself and not God. Our founder as great as he was would never blaspheme and call himself God or Jesus. Our religion is a practical one. But like I said, we were also integrated in the early 1900s and still around...I am 3 generation because our church certainly believes in procreation. How anyone could get wrapped up in these false prophets is beyond me.

    • @shirleyvz11
      @shirleyvz11 2 роки тому +3

      I thought the bible said in the body of christ there would be no slave nor master, Jews nor gentiles. Aren't we all just humans? Where is it stated in the bible to procreate exclusively with your race? Enlighten me, I could be wrong.

    • @thegamingchef3304
      @thegamingchef3304 2 роки тому +1

      @@shirleyvz11 We all come from different tribes in the bible. Each tribe God provided a man for a woman and woman for a man

    • @mkdubose
      @mkdubose 2 роки тому

      @@shirleyvz11 race is a man-made concept. That word didn't exist during biblical times.

    • @THEOLYMPIAGUY360
      @THEOLYMPIAGUY360 Рік тому

      😂Bwahahaha another cult member!! You tribe is much Better Israelite.

    • @kaimikell8742
      @kaimikell8742 Рік тому

      LOL. Just say your church is filled with racist. Race didn’t even exist

  • @djkaneck1
    @djkaneck1 2 роки тому +1

    He sounds like a real missionary...believe and trust bullshit for all you’re worth. 🤨

  • @charlesdaniels3748
    @charlesdaniels3748 2 роки тому +1

    Because there is only one God one everlasting father Isaiah 9:6-8 of and when people die for your sins and shed there blood to wash away your sin people choose to worship men they choose to put men on levels as gods which the scripture teaches against it no man or woman is to be worshipped as the father Jesus taught our father which art in heaven hollowed be your name as the father Jesus spoke to pilot that his kingdom was not of this world he said that he could presently call 12 legions of angels he told pilot when he asked him are you a king he said you say I am was Jesus playing games with words no he just told pilot that his kingdom wasn't from this world he meant my kingdom because he told pilot he had a kingdom not from this world so when in the Lord prayer he said for thine is the kingdom the power and the glory he said all power has been given unto me in heaven and the earth 🌎

  • @joncharles3490
    @joncharles3490 2 роки тому +8

    "god" is really a "black man", but not this mafuka..

    • @acquanellaogbemudia9930
      @acquanellaogbemudia9930 2 роки тому

      Lmao True That 👍

    • @tdh4982
      @tdh4982 Рік тому

      Show me?

    • @joncharles3490
      @joncharles3490 Рік тому

      @@tdh4982 if i had a time machine n we can go back to 92 behind my granny house i would but he wouldnt show cuz u would be there, so fuck U..

    • @tdh4982
      @tdh4982 Рік тому

      @@joncharles3490 you realize I am Black and Mexican ? No need to use profanity either, that was uncalled for. I was simply asking you what was the proof of your assertion that God is a black man. That was all.

    • @joncharles3490
      @joncharles3490 Рік тому

      @@tdh4982 as a man i was wrong for that but basically U GOD then pimp its in the bible but he most def a black man bcuz i spoke with him n everytime he spoke the ground shook it was kinda cool tho, but i apologize for my stupid statement..

  • @curiouslyt2123
    @curiouslyt2123 2 роки тому +4

    A religion that violates a Christian god 1st request of man? Be fruitful and multiply. Really?

    • @83wasagoodyear
      @83wasagoodyear 2 роки тому

      Be fruitful was for the Gentiles. There was no sex or sexes in the Garden

  • @pharoahmonk50
    @pharoahmonk50 2 роки тому +5

    From everything I saw, there was something certainly "divine" about the brother.

  • @charlesdaniels3748
    @charlesdaniels3748 2 роки тому +2

    The kingdom was always his

  • @prettychachi
    @prettychachi Рік тому +1

    smh sad

  • @mmc5261
    @mmc5261 3 роки тому +2

    He never collected offerings

    • @whayes8084
      @whayes8084 2 роки тому +5

      Lol. Sure my guy

    • @TK-tcbk1
      @TK-tcbk1 2 роки тому +5

      Then how did he become wealthy?

    • @mmc5261
      @mmc5261 2 роки тому +1

      @@TK-tcbk1 gifts

    • @princeatom6755
      @princeatom6755 2 роки тому +1

      @@mmc5261 really?

    • @juliechs8336
      @juliechs8336 2 роки тому +5

      He fled NY state after being court ordered to return monies/dues to his 'divinities'. Members were required to give money, a lot of it.

  • @turnerc13781
    @turnerc13781 2 роки тому +1

    What father is meekness looking to…repent

  • @YolundaWilliams-ko8hh
    @YolundaWilliams-ko8hh 4 місяці тому

    He was a God the Bible say there many God's he was a God 🎉

  • @ityou5874
    @ityou5874 2 роки тому

    Good job Father Devine. 💯💣💥🤲

    • @THEOLYMPIAGUY360
      @THEOLYMPIAGUY360 Рік тому +1

      Since you liked him so much I heard his other church is making a come back it’s called The Peoples Temple. You should check them out.

    • @ityou5874
      @ityou5874 Рік тому

      @@THEOLYMPIAGUY360 Father divine and Jim Jones is not the same person.

    • @user-qw4be1yi9b
      @user-qw4be1yi9b Рік тому

      Same devil@ityou5874

  • @jeffreyreid6981
    @jeffreyreid6981 Рік тому +1

    😂That’s not what the Bible says you make no image of God you Places no man before God

  • @mikerowe7483
    @mikerowe7483 3 роки тому +6

    Father divine is god almighty

    • @lenairholton5493
      @lenairholton5493 2 роки тому +6

      @Proper Yep, a lower case "god" that had to flee N.Y. to avoid ONE woman who opened up a can-of-worms and won her case. Now THAT is powerful.

    • @kelvinhouston4287
      @kelvinhouston4287 2 роки тому +1

      @Proper You can say that again....LOL

    • @williamvasquezvasquez9878
      @williamvasquezvasquez9878 2 роки тому

      Hey, Mike Brown, your “god” is NOTHING but dust like we’re ALL going to be.

    • @THEOLYMPIAGUY360
      @THEOLYMPIAGUY360 Рік тому

      😂🤣😂