The Strange & Sudden Downfall of Cesc Fabregas

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  • Опубліковано 22 вер 2024

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  • @saratov99
    @saratov99 День тому +50

    Not mentioned that in Arsenal he replaced non other than Patrick Vieira!

    • @RaymarFootball
      @RaymarFootball  День тому +14

      Vieira almost never gets talked about but he was a legend 💯 and for a young Fabregas to replace him without skipping a beat speaks volumes

  • @S0L12D3
    @S0L12D3 День тому +31

    Cesc Fabregas was a player that made me want to play in the midfield. The control and composure he had was so impressive

  • @atomaticom1821
    @atomaticom1821 День тому +38

    I don’t really see the whole argument of Guardiola playing him in a deeper role at Barcelona. First of all as far as I remember he was often playing that false 9 position in 2011/12 leading up to the the 2012 Euros where Spain used him the same way. Second of all you have to remember that Fabregas played 3 seasons at Barcelona and only the first one was under Pep. 2012/13 was under Tito Vilanova and 2013/14 Tata Martino was the head coach. You could have at least mentioned that cause I feel like many people watching this video will now assume Fabregas played the majority of his time at Barça under Pep while it was only one season.

  • @primeJR-10
    @primeJR-10 День тому +10

    The man that made Diego Costa scream at Conte saying "Puuuuuut Cesc onnnnnn ‼️" when Chelsea needed a hero :( him and Costa are one of football's most underrated duo's

  • @footballhipstertv
    @footballhipstertv День тому +104

    Saying his move to Barça was a mistake is a little disrespectful considering he never won a league title at Arsenal, he won many titles at Barça. He didnt win the UCL there but nor did he at Arsenal or at Chelsea

    • @blank1933
      @blank1933 День тому +16

      its not disrespectful. they ruined him. He would've fulfilled his potential at Madrid

    • @prometheustv6558
      @prometheustv6558 День тому +27

      It was a mistake for Barca since they already had two great midfielders in their prime. And they didn’t win the UCL while he was there.

    • @prometheustv6558
      @prometheustv6558 День тому +6

      @@blank1933but he was Barcelona through and through he’d never go to Madrid

    • @blank1933
      @blank1933 День тому +6

      @@prometheustv6558 he should’ve though or gone elsewhere. Mourinho utilised him much better than Guardiola at Chelsea. Imagine if he had him at Madrid with Alonso and Ozil

    • @footballhipstertv
      @footballhipstertv День тому +8

      @@blank1933 how did they ruin him? At Barça he was in his best form, played almost every game and scored many goals. When he was there he was 2nd highest scorer, scoring more than Villa and Pedro

  • @diboymashesha
    @diboymashesha День тому +15

    This man achieved more than everyone in these comments including myself cause Arsenal gave Vicente del Bosque insight on dynamic he is and what he did at Chelsea is the most underrated part he played like De Bruyne and Alonso at the same and picked passes like Mesut Ozil for what's next should be Vicente Del Bosque and Pedro Rodriguez very underrated two

    • @kothicamedarth2680
      @kothicamedarth2680 День тому +1

      Even for Barcelona he was good despite playing as false 9 (when Messi was there) & as winger

    • @JoshuaOresanya-dj5lg
      @JoshuaOresanya-dj5lg День тому +1

      ​@@kothicamedarth2680 But he wasn't his full potential unlike when he was at Arsenal and Chelsea

  • @SonnyK248
    @SonnyK248 День тому +17

    By the time Fabregas was 21 he was already on the same level as Xavi and Iniesta. His big problem was that he went to Barcelona too soon. He expected to slowly integrate into Xavi's place on the team because Xavi was getting old but three years later Xavi was still Xavi and Fabregas was still waiting. And he'd pretty much wasted his time there. If he'd stayed at Arsenal just for those years he spent at Barca then he's be a legit Premier League legend. He was already in the conversation for best midfielder in the Prem before he turned 20.

    • @Richard-d1y
      @Richard-d1y Годину тому

      I just think he was the same as Henry. Both were big fishes in medium ponds in the EPL, but small fishes in the biggest pond at Barca. Henry looks average next to Messi. Cesc looks average next to Xavi and Iniesta.

    • @SonnyK248
      @SonnyK248 Годину тому

      @@Richard-d1y Henry was in his 30’s and absolute class at Barcelona 😂 but of course he looked inferior compared to Messi who wouldn’t?

    • @Richard-d1y
      @Richard-d1y 36 хвилин тому

      @SonnyK248 Indeed. Same for Cesc. Great in the EPL, but next to maybe the two greatest midfielder ever looks normal.

  • @ace99100
    @ace99100 День тому +4

    Cesc is a legend

  • @joehiggs4349
    @joehiggs4349 День тому +18

    He never should have gone home. Pep stifled many great players to serve his system. Understandable but tragic for Ibrahim, Cesc, Yaya, and others.

    • @prometheustv6558
      @prometheustv6558 День тому +2

      He’s a La masia graduate but he suited Mourinho’s style more than pep.

    • @joehiggs4349
      @joehiggs4349 День тому +4

      @@prometheustv6558 The sad thing is that he was so versatile he could have fit in with that Barca team beautifully but the four guys at his positions - Xavi, Iniesta, Busquets, and Messi (ok, Messi was a lot more) were marginally more appropriate at each position. Cesc ended up being a world class utility player but it wasn’t enough for his huge talent. We don’t need to weep too much for him. His career was fantastic.

    • @reddevilsunited_2060
      @reddevilsunited_2060 День тому

      Lol his move to Barca wasn't that big of a failure. He was really good in their title winning season in 2012-2013 and his 2014-2015 season at Chelsea when they won the Premier League was also extremely extremely good.

  • @ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVXYZ12345
    @ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVXYZ12345 День тому +8

    Make a video about Eric Cantona please.

  • @abhishekalfred3452
    @abhishekalfred3452 День тому +6

    That Spanish trio was so good that talents like David Silva, Fabregas, Xabi Alonso , Santi Cazorla got overlooked.

    • @kothicamedarth2680
      @kothicamedarth2680 День тому

      David Silva was better than Iniesta & Xavi

    • @thetruth4654
      @thetruth4654 День тому

      @@kothicamedarth2680 He wasn`t, but still an amazing player

    • @benedictjajo
      @benedictjajo День тому +1

      Bro sneaked in Cazorla like we wouldn't notice.

    • @MrOowweenn
      @MrOowweenn 23 години тому +1

      @@benedictjajo cazorla was special just always injured

    • @abhishekalfred3452
      @abhishekalfred3452 21 годину тому

      @@benedictjajo I’m a chelsea fan and not arsenal I just acknowledge how talented he once was .

  • @LeonidasChronis
    @LeonidasChronis День тому +22

    Cesc left barca in 2014. In 2015 xavi retired. If he stayed he would have xavi's place. He would absolutely great on that role

    • @Pewdiepiesmosh-zh9bq
      @Pewdiepiesmosh-zh9bq 20 годин тому

      Xavi left Barca not retired

    • @LeonidasChronis
      @LeonidasChronis 18 годин тому +1

      @@Pewdiepiesmosh-zh9bq same thing. Cesc could play on his spot

    • @Richard-d1y
      @Richard-d1y Годину тому

      Cesc was not at Xavi level though. I mean, not by a long shot.

  • @zinan2959
    @zinan2959 День тому +8

    Honestly not only was this guy imo the most talented central midfielder I ever saw of his generation, but this guy was probably the most talented teenage midfielder of maybe the last 20 years. It's such a shame his move to Barcelona didn't take him to the level his talent had, but that's not to say he did;t retire as a legend and a world champions with a truck load of trophies.

    • @MrOowweenn
      @MrOowweenn 23 години тому

      Pedri

    • @zinan2959
      @zinan2959 22 години тому

      @@MrOowweenn Don't make me laugh Pedri isn't half as good as Cesc 😂😂

  • @RaymarFootball
    @RaymarFootball  День тому +5

    Leave a like if you enjoyed, it's the best way to support the channel 🙏 ❤ Let me know what video you want next!

    • @MrGts92
      @MrGts92 День тому

      How about a video explaining why you would say things like "England have bottled a final" when no one expected us to win and yet when it's someone like Inter Milan who lose a final to Man City it's not about "bottling" but about getting your knees brown for Guardiola? Inconsistency or hypocrisy or purposeful agenda?

    • @RaymarFootball
      @RaymarFootball  День тому +1

      @@MrGts92 I dont recall ever glazing guardiola 🤔 but if you look at the comment section, a lot of your felloe english agree that southgate is generally clueless

    • @mohno4265
      @mohno4265 День тому +1

      In 2006: Messi was injured, so cant participate at the UCL final against his friend Fabregas.

    • @MrGts92
      @MrGts92 День тому

      @@RaymarFootball I never said Southgate was great. I'm disputing the angle that you talked about "England bottlimg it" but yet you never said that about Inter, even though they weren't expected to win a final against City either, then you go change the title of the video "how Southgate tricked people", which he did no such thing, if you actually bothered to follow English media or fan opinion. But I take it, you only want to give a "balanced view" if it involves European, Asian, Americas players as examples but have a slant against the English.

    • @daanishdan318
      @daanishdan318 День тому

      The recent success of Argentina would be certainly interesting. Especially since their success has come after the hype years think 2010 World Cup where they were managed by Maradona. A video on Bielsa or Wrexham could also be interesting

  • @SOULJALOS
    @SOULJALOS День тому +2

    His greatest assist is probably that pass he gave to Iniesta in the world
    Cup final

  • @danshmstafa3215
    @danshmstafa3215 День тому +7

    Please make a video for Dida (3rd video)🎉🎉

  • @worldtownfc
    @worldtownfc День тому +3

    Cesc Fabregas chose to leave Arsenal to return to his home club, FC Barcelona. He knew that he would take a demotion from Arsenal's No. 1 to a rotation player at FC Barcelona. His dream was probably to play for FC Barcelona with his old friends from the academy like Gerard Pique and Lionel Messi. Fabregas's intense and clinical style did not fit the FC Barcelona way because he was willing to complete low percentage medium-to-long balls, which goes against the tika-taka possession style. Fabregas brought results and assists, but he would never be the prime creator with Xavi, Iniesta, and Messi. At least, Fabregas knew after three seasons that he was wasting away at FC Barcelona, so he left for Chelsea.
    Fabregas won the 2012-13 La Liga, 2011-2012 Copa del Rey, 2011 and 2013 Supercopa, 2011 UEFA Super Cup, and 2011 FIFA Club World Cup. Trophies only mean so much until the player wants serious game time or a bigger role on the team. As a key player, Fabregas won trophies (2 Premier League titles, 1 FA Cup/1 runner-up FA Cup medal, 1 Football League Cup, and 1 UEFA Europa League) for Chelsea, so he got what he wanted in the end. The later injuries are not surprising because early in his career, Fabregas was an intense attacker, so the wear and tear finally caught up to him. Fabregas is one of the greatest Spanish midfielders of his era.

  • @RespecTheLevYT
    @RespecTheLevYT День тому +13

    The problem with Fabregas is that he was always seen in the shadows of a Silva Iniesta Xavi or a even Bisquits which is highly unfair for someone of his caliber

    • @thetruth4654
      @thetruth4654 День тому +1

      How is it unfair?
      Xavi and Iniesta are arguably the GOAT midfielders in football
      and Busquets is arguably the greatest DM of all time(i don`t think he is, but he is certaintly top 3 with Rijkaard and Matthaus)

  • @sentiasatransformasi
    @sentiasatransformasi 19 годин тому

    I was a huge fan back when fabregas n rvp were playing together.. what a player

  • @frank._dc
    @frank._dc День тому +4

    W content bro this is mad interesting. my bday is in 2 days so if you could wish a happy birthday it would be great :) keep the content coming

  • @Kakarotoo4428
    @Kakarotoo4428 День тому +2

    Barca video, og theme.
    Thank you raymar🫡👍

  • @king-dragosancho17
    @king-dragosancho17 День тому +3

    No one will understand how good Fabregas is he was unstoppable for Arsenal he's not Patrick Viera after he left and Fabregas took the spotlight for the midfield he still was great I wouldn't say he's a flop at Barcelona he was decent tho he didn't get his role cuz we all knew that the Barcelona midfield is too stacked wit Busquets Xavi and Iniesta there was no room for Fabregas and they either put him on the wing or a false 9 center forward it sucked he didn't win a UCL especially wit Barcelona he coulda been something special but in Spain from 2008-2012 he was amazing there at least and won 2 European trophies and a world cup

  • @souravpradeep3407
    @souravpradeep3407 День тому +2

    can you make a video about jairzinho he goated and underrated

  • @hunmingng2042
    @hunmingng2042 День тому +3

    I don't get why didn't Fabregas just wait a little longer at barca? Cuz wasn't Xavi already declining so that's why Rakitic was signed

  • @illyrianwarr1or
    @illyrianwarr1or День тому +3

    Šuker next man,

  • @wafflaaar1067
    @wafflaaar1067 42 хвилини тому

    will be interesting to see how his coaching careeer at como unfolds

  • @Nerd-Muscle
    @Nerd-Muscle День тому +1

    Saddest thing was Wenger made him to big for the 2005 u21 where Spain needed him. Would have been nice to have him, Mikel Obi and Messi the three biggest kids that year.

  • @CaptainCreampie69
    @CaptainCreampie69 День тому +2

    I have always thought he was a more direct version of Xavi and better than him. Xavi played too slow and was too safe, while good at keeping possession multiple games were drawn or lost because he prioritized possession over attack. If he had the dribbling of Iniesta he would’ve been the best player ever. I honestly think that if FCB were going to insist on playing Busquets, Xavi, Iniesta and Messi, they could’ve just kept him as a false 9 like they did and move Messi to the right and cut in on his favored foot, Dani Alves provides width with Pedro/David Villa/Sanches/Neymar on the left and when defense was needed have Abidal play or when attacking Maxwell/Alba. Also talking about Ozil he was great as well, extremely direct and a decent dribbler, he lacked the stamina however. Honestly if I were to make an all time 3 in the middle it would be Fabregas, Viera, Iniesta. Direct as well as patient, a pure destroyer and someone who can wriggle out of trouble with dribbling.

  • @andreivladut5769
    @andreivladut5769 День тому +1

    fabregas and nasri at arsenal were the real deal

  • @kothicamedarth2680
    @kothicamedarth2680 День тому +1

    Cesc Fabregas & David Silva were to Spanish legends who are on par with Xavi, Xabi Alonso & Iniesta but hardly get the laurels they deserve.
    For Spain they have better stats than Xavi & Iniesta.
    David Silva did no mistake yet he gets severely underrated
    Cesc played as false 9 & winger but still delivered to Barcelona, after Barcelona he was no longer that effective playmaker but was good at Chelsea

  • @saratov99
    @saratov99 День тому

    Xavi, Iniesta, Silva, Fabregas, Xabi Alonso, Busquets, Mata, Santi Cazorla.

  • @Huttrish
    @Huttrish День тому

    make a vid about Alan Shearer please!, he is so underrated

  • @MultipleFlames
    @MultipleFlames День тому +3

    How did his career downfall exactly? He was a world class player in Barcelona in his first 2 seasons
    1st season he had 40 G/A
    2nd season he had 31 G/A
    3rd he felled a bit off but he still had 31 G/A and most of this games he played as a center midfielder
    And then at Chelsea he had another world class season
    With 33 G/A
    He fell off in 17/18 season not in 11/12

    • @blank1933
      @blank1933 День тому +1

      bro said g/a. you did not watch Fabregas at all did you? It is common knowledge that Barca stifled his career. Do you know the potential Fabregas had.

    • @MultipleFlames
      @MultipleFlames День тому +1

      @@blank1933 he still is the 7th best midfielder in the past gen mate also G/A is the most important in football with those you win games if not then players like haaland are bang average

    • @calm123
      @calm123 День тому +1

      He fell off in 2015/16 season honestly, was bench for Chelsea by 17 PL win

    • @MultipleFlames
      @MultipleFlames День тому

      @@calm123 fairs

    • @blank1933
      @blank1933 Годину тому

      @@MultipleFlames if g/a is so important players like Iniesta are average

  • @DanielOkwuosa-ph1kt
    @DanielOkwuosa-ph1kt День тому +2

    Really love ur content bro, please like😢😢❤

  • @JoshuaOresanya-dj5lg
    @JoshuaOresanya-dj5lg День тому

    Hey Raymar,i have a suggestion maybe try doing a video about Ricardo Quaresma and Nani ,its just as if he vanished from the face of the earth overtime.
    Besides that,your vids are top notch quality and very intriguing. Thanks for always doing your best to make us your subscribers and viewers entertained. ,pls don't forget the Quaresma and Nani Episode,Cheers 🍻🥂

    • @JoshuaOresanya-dj5lg
      @JoshuaOresanya-dj5lg День тому +1

      And besides,how I wish Cesc never went to FCB,he should have just stayed at Chelsea or better still have gone to Real Madrid, they'd have utilized his abilities better. FCB has always had a history of ruining great and star potentials.
      Eg:Phillippe Coutinho,Ousmané Dembélé,Antoine Griezmann when he went to FCB in 2019,Andreas Christensen,Marcos Alonso etc

  • @LetjekaSenyolo
    @LetjekaSenyolo День тому

    Make a video about of David Silva

  • @EverythingFootball-r3p
    @EverythingFootball-r3p День тому +1

    Had he stayed at barca for 2 more seasons xavi he would have been a club legend. I mean idk why he left when xavi was on the decline

  • @parrotguy890
    @parrotguy890 День тому +2

    Why did you re-upload it?

  • @nikolasladoja4578
    @nikolasladoja4578 День тому

    Make video about Nemanja Vidić

  • @Hugh-G-Rextion
    @Hugh-G-Rextion 23 години тому +1

    Greatest of all time, missed out on the part of coaches voluntarily not playing him due to not wanting him to be scouted from their system. Explains just how good he was as a kid

  • @bismposdimitris8972
    @bismposdimitris8972 День тому +3

    Dude, you're oversimplifying things.
    Cesc may have been successful with the Spain NT, but G/A is NOT all there is to football. Everyone at the time knew, that Xavi and Iniesta were the main guys on those teams (which of course had many other great players, among them Fabregas).
    At Barca, Cesc failed. Plain and simple. We do not know who is at fault (Cesc himself, Pep, the board etc.), but you are making it sound like Cesc was that hidden gem at Barca (again citing those G/A numbers, which are not everything in football) and was mistreated by Pep. The reality is that Cesc could not bench Xavi (who was pushing early 30s at the time) or Iniesta (who was exiting his prime when Cesc left in 2014). Cesc played under Pep, Tito and Tata at Barca and eventually was sold when Enrique became the boss, that's 4 different managers.
    And here is the thing: Cesc was never the type of midfielder Xavi or Iniesta were, he was more of a attacking midfielder, that's why he had more G/A (ofc he was really talented as well, but he did play a different role). So he could not replace them at the Barca system. The thing is he could not play this role at Barca, because the main creative outlet up front was none other than Leo Messi, in his prime. In other words, there was no room for a player like Cesc at Barca.

    • @blank1933
      @blank1933 День тому +1

      how was Fabregas more of an attacking midfielder when before he joined Barca at Arsenal he was involved in all phases of the game. He had the qualities to be better than both and should have been better than both. the level Ozil reached in la liga is what Fabregas was capable of

  • @mirceazambitchi1151
    @mirceazambitchi1151 23 години тому

    Messi was injured in that final in fact he was injured for the whole last half of that season

  • @skibidipluh69
    @skibidipluh69 День тому +3

    First!

  • @thaifinnen
    @thaifinnen 41 хвилина тому

    To be fair Messi was injured during the 2006 final and he had gotten some decent playing time before it

  • @abhishekalfred3452
    @abhishekalfred3452 День тому

    Kante and Fabre im the midfield 😭

  • @madurathenuwara7760
    @madurathenuwara7760 День тому +3

    Raymar can you make a video of qureshma

  • @JonasFilberg
    @JonasFilberg День тому +1

    Another one?

  • @pathlessflame946
    @pathlessflame946 День тому

    Can you please reupload the Harry Kane video 🥺

  • @jordanp9351
    @jordanp9351 35 хвилин тому

    Busquets didn't feature AT ALL in Euro 2008, he wasn't even capped until 09 - Marcos Senna started. That is basic information you should know when publishing such a video

  • @shashwotmarsani8417
    @shashwotmarsani8417 8 годин тому

    just like di maria at man u fabregas wasn't a flop at barca just look at their stats when they were there

  • @thandilembanga7883
    @thandilembanga7883 День тому

    What do you mean downfall I don't understand

  • @ansteb_edits
    @ansteb_edits День тому +4

    he couldn’t replace de bruyne’s role at man city, no one can, de bruyne is the greatest assist provider of all time, even clearing messi’s assist ratio, having a 0.41 assist ratio (i think) or something of the sort

  • @PerhapsQ8
    @PerhapsQ8 День тому

    Barca didnt need him, he didnt need Barca.. He never play in his usual position , he was one of many reason that made Thiago Alcantara leave .. he was decent player not that impressive he should've stayed at arsenal tbf

  • @frayner06
    @frayner06 11 годин тому

    What downfall?

  • @CLOCKROOK
    @CLOCKROOK День тому +1

    a

  • @WilliamCupples-u2n
    @WilliamCupples-u2n День тому

    Johnson Thomas Martinez Maria Johnson Kevin

  • @frudydoo7541
    @frudydoo7541 14 годин тому

    Tragic?
    Fabregas won everything there is to win, played for the best clubs in the world, and got rich while doing it.

  • @mirceazambitchi1151
    @mirceazambitchi1151 22 години тому +1

    terrible video, terrible takes, a ton of missinformation.. plus thinking that football is just about statistics..

  • @myusernameisalan
    @myusernameisalan 8 годин тому

    Messi scored 50 league goals bc Cesc was there to help. L opinion.

  • @seriel5953
    @seriel5953 День тому

    0 view 1 mins bro fell off😔😔😔

  • @edeh1548
    @edeh1548 День тому +1

    9:09 Holy