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  • @SeawulfTV
    @SeawulfTV  2 місяці тому

    Thanks for watching, guys! If you think this video was worth the loot, a Super Thanks would be an epic way to support more content. Thanks for keeping the journey alive!

  • @DesertTOON
    @DesertTOON Рік тому +56

    When I played Vanilla Classic, I played only a Survival hunter. I engaged the mobs in combat all the time. It was a revelation to me to know that other hunter specs have the pet do all the fighting. LOL

    • @VegetoStevieD
      @VegetoStevieD Рік тому +5

      Same. I went survival on my hunter in 2019.

    • @goshawkrst
      @goshawkrst Рік тому +8

      Hardcore. This is for Hardcore. In Vanilla when you was playing for sure you¨ve died a million times to 60.....

    • @costelinha1867
      @costelinha1867 Рік тому

      To be fair, at least for beast mastery it would make sense, YOU'RE THE BEAST MASTER AFTER ALL! For Marksmanship, I dunno, sure the pet would do a lot of work, but I'd imagine that the focus would still be more on the hunter doing the heavy damage.

  • @ScorpionChaos69
    @ScorpionChaos69 Рік тому +40

    Finally a video of someone playing the game, actually trying different mechanics, and then making them work. So many people are copy-pasta, it's insane!

  • @leviashby6888
    @leviashby6888 Рік тому +51

    You heavily under sold parry. It doesn't just stop their attack but finishes your remaining swing making slow 2h really good on survival hunters.

    • @basmong
      @basmong Рік тому +11

      "After a successful parry, the defender's "swing timer" is reduced by 40% of your weapon speed (or even reset)"
      "thus parry favors slower, higher damage weapons."

  • @costelinha1867
    @costelinha1867 Рік тому +17

    Setting your pet to passive. I never played Hunter, but as a warlock, I endorse this tip.

    • @FNigslol
      @FNigslol 3 дні тому

      That's not even close to true

  • @alfavhunter7010
    @alfavhunter7010 Рік тому +15

    I'm currently doing the hc nightmare hunter challenge. No pet, no ranged weapons. Almost lvl 30.

    • @Onimyst
      @Onimyst Місяць тому

      How did it go?

    • @alfavhunter7010
      @alfavhunter7010 Місяць тому +1

      @Onimyst real life got in the way and haven't done much with it since then. Lvl 32, but hopefully this winter I will get more time.

  • @ukcomicjunkie7433
    @ukcomicjunkie7433 Рік тому +74

    Hunter has most deaths because people think its easy but what they fail to realise is you have a huge agro radius with your pet and you don’t control the path your pet takes so you will get into some sticky situations

    • @lirumlarum9592
      @lirumlarum9592 Рік тому +20

      it literally is the easiest class. The reason why so many hunter die is also because it is the most chosen class

    • @tragzz
      @tragzz Рік тому +2

      ​@@lirumlarum9592thank you

    • @Loned1987
      @Loned1987 Рік тому +2

      ​@@lirumlarum9592yes, and because its the easiest some of the least skilled Players choose hunter and die pretty early.

    • @thinkchair96
      @thinkchair96 Рік тому +2

      I’ve died in mid 20s on a Tauren and dwarf hunters both due to hyper-respawns in a bunker and in hillsbrsd building. Time to try survival spec and not suck.

    • @dmarsub
      @dmarsub Рік тому +4

      ​@@lirumlarum9592that explains the absolute number of deaths but not the low percentage of hunters getting to 60.

  • @robertb67
    @robertb67 Рік тому +31

    As survival, while leveling, using immolation trap before pulling an enemy adds a ton more dps, especially for those strong mobs one might pull.

    • @wowprobeast7543
      @wowprobeast7543 Рік тому +2

      Even without being sv having an extra damage ability down before pull is going to give u more dps

    • @tremolo6940
      @tremolo6940 Рік тому +1

      ​@wowprobeast7543 well laying damage traps is kind of useless as BM cuz all the mobs are gonna be where your pet is, at a distance. Buut it's always a good idea to lay down a freezing trap that you may or may not need

    • @wowprobeast7543
      @wowprobeast7543 Рік тому

      @@tremolo6940 not always, you can easily have ur pet get aggro and put it to passive making it come back to you thus mob gets trapped or u start with pulling mob to you or over the trap then letting pet get aggro

    • @tremolo6940
      @tremolo6940 Рік тому +1

      @wowprobeast7543 that's definitely gonna be slower than just sending your pet at it and blasting it with ranged, if you're BM

    • @wowprobeast7543
      @wowprobeast7543 Рік тому

      @@tremolo6940 ofc, but point being you still get traps as bm, surv is just ineffective compared

  • @tremolo6940
    @tremolo6940 Рік тому +10

    Of course feigning death for too long will kill you... your body can only operate with an ultra-slowed heart beat for so long 😅

  • @Psychonaut165
    @Psychonaut165 2 місяці тому +2

    I think survivalist gives you good tools for hardcore. It’s not going to be as fast at power leveling as BM, or have as high a dps for dungeons and raids as MM..
    but when shit hits the fan, it’s probably safer in a lot of situations, especially solo

  • @batbat224
    @batbat224 Рік тому +7

    2:48 The extremely easy to find lvl 7-8 Durotar Tiger has 1.3 sec attack speed.

  • @exploreyourdreamlife
    @exploreyourdreamlife Рік тому +7

    I tried this and will never EVER play ranged hunter again. It's so much better playing melee hunter since I have my pet taunt while I SHRED the mob from the back. Since I'm hitting from the back, my attacks rarely get parried. Melee hunter game play is a GAME CHANGER! Thanks for making this video. Liked and subbed.

    • @MikeRedcorn
      @MikeRedcorn Рік тому +1

      Hitting it from the back is BiS.

    • @lolkuuj6859
      @lolkuuj6859 Рік тому

      @@MikeRedcorntrue, and real.

    • @HallsteinI
      @HallsteinI Рік тому +1

      Been about 6 days since you commented, dead yet?

    • @Bepples
      @Bepples Рік тому

      He's still a ranged Hunter in this video; he's just employing melee weaving.
      You can level as melee as you want but it will be much, much less effective.

  • @reesty7761
    @reesty7761 Рік тому +12

    To be honest... I love this!

  • @Yogsoggeth
    @Yogsoggeth Рік тому +14

    Currently playing a hunter in HC. It's the class I played most and have the best chance at hitting 60 on. I would have 100% died to feign death though, if I hadn't of watched this. I'm the kinda guy that would use it and AFK just for a gimmick

    • @batbat224
      @batbat224 Рік тому

      I didn’t know either and I’ve been playing since 2008.

  • @yaintwrong
    @yaintwrong Рік тому +3

    The YT algorithm really liked this one. Good luck on your content creation brother

  • @kjeksomanen
    @kjeksomanen Рік тому +2

    I never really thought of playing a hunter in HC before watching this video, thanks, probably my next alt.

  • @Xynth22
    @Xynth22 Рік тому +1

    This is kind of funny. On my first hunter ever back in vanilla, I didn't really know about pet abilities and therefore didn't know about growl. So this was basically how I played it up until like level 30 before I bored of it. Kind of neat seeing the playstyle actually be a legitimate way of leveling up on hardcore classic now.

  • @Vigilant_warrior_08
    @Vigilant_warrior_08 Рік тому +2

    i wasgetting bored playing my 42 warr, starting new hunter alt after stumbling upon this video tyvm!

  • @TheYashakami
    @TheYashakami Рік тому +8

    I melee all the time, do you know how expensive arrows are?

  • @Mosotti
    @Mosotti Рік тому +20

    Neah, just go BM, stick with a single weapon type and keep it leveled up, also level up defense. You can comfortable do quests 2-3 levels higher and stay away from danger. In HC you WANT to be Donkey.

  • @hansbystrom9983
    @hansbystrom9983 Рік тому +2

    This is not a meme, it's actually a superior spec. I think some nerd kid with a spread sheet decided in 2006 that there was a threshold for agility, and that myth has been around for 15+ years. IT IS A LIE. I would out dps better geared MM hunters and they would continue to call me noob for playing SV. People are that dumb and stuck on the cookie cutter shit.
    One of the big disappointments of SV is the Mongoose Bite, but outside of that, it's nothing but amazing.
    Survival is great for world leveling, PvP and as far as Hardcore goes - nothing is better than SV when it comes to "oh shit" moments.

  • @jesusc9972
    @jesusc9972 Рік тому +21

    this video, your channel and your content making abilities are extremely underrated sir. you should make a video like this for every class :)

    • @SeawulfTV
      @SeawulfTV  Рік тому +3

      Thank you so much! I am just getting started and still learning about content creation. I do have some ideas about other classes as well!

  • @VegetoStevieD
    @VegetoStevieD Рік тому +7

    I run the build and playstyle a little differently, but I agree with about 90% of what you're saying. Survival is the way to go.
    Mainly, I focus on ranged a bit more than you, and I DO pick up [Taunt], but I also use [Distracting Shot] a lot. The idea is for neither you nor your pet to tank.
    Again, though, I agree with about 90% of what you're saying. [Aspect of the Monkey] is the way to go. Survival is the way to go, it's literally in the name.
    I would go further to say that you should spend extra time to only HUNT beasts. [Scare Beast] is as good as Warlock's Fear, if you're fighting beasts. If your quests are looking a little dangerous, just HUNT beasts nonstop for 1 whole level. HUNT. It's literally in the name; HUNTer.

    • @nihsumi
      @nihsumi Рік тому

      I am not sure I understand your spell rotation for a mob of even level or level+1? Also with growl off what are you doing when you pull 2?

    • @VegetoStevieD
      @VegetoStevieD Рік тому

      @@nihsumi
      Basically,
      Concussive Shot, then start kiting and shooting. Have your pet attack after you start shooting. Continue to Kite and shoot, stopping only for a split second for autos. Use a swing timer for this.
      If the mob gets near you, manually have your pet taunt. Get a little distance, then use distracting shot to pull it off your pet. Kite and kill.

    • @nihsumi
      @nihsumi Рік тому

      @@VegetoStevieD so if your kiting all the time why are you going survival?

    • @VegetoStevieD
      @VegetoStevieD Рік тому

      @@nihsumi Because things don't always go as planned.
      I go Survival / Marks, personally.

  • @StupidOtters
    @StupidOtters Рік тому +6

    slept on vid, very useful content!

  • @ElDiavolito
    @ElDiavolito Рік тому +3

    BM is the way to go if you ACTUALLY wanna make it to 60

    • @Xynth22
      @Xynth22 Рік тому

      You can make it to 60 on literally anything if you play it safe.

  • @JamesSmith-jf5ge
    @JamesSmith-jf5ge Місяць тому +1

    I love my little boar. He never says no to what I try to feed him.

  • @OMGitsTokk
    @OMGitsTokk 2 місяці тому +1

    Great video! Good balance between humour and information

  • @nathano1399
    @nathano1399 Рік тому +2

    Chill video and quality content 👌

  • @NamaeofLife
    @NamaeofLife Рік тому +2

    I'm planning on playing survival hunte rin SoD... with Lone Wolf and other runes I'm hoping for more of a melee hunter build. Super excited

  • @topplopp9751
    @topplopp9751 6 днів тому +1

    What stats do you prefer. I playing agi/spirit. Is agi/int better or even agi/stam?

    • @SeawulfTV
      @SeawulfTV  6 днів тому +1

      I went with agi/stam and it felt good in combat. Solid damage and ability to face mobs, but I had to drink a lot as mana was going fast. Spirit is nice as well, I tried to add some spirit after those primary stats just to reduce the time in between taking mana breaks.

  • @uhGecko
    @uhGecko Рік тому +4

    Wow really interesting video! keep doing your thing :D

    • @SeawulfTV
      @SeawulfTV  Рік тому

      Thank you! I am working on the next one!

  • @LeXu48310
    @LeXu48310 Рік тому +1

    I think a better pet for that playstile are bats and owls because they have a high dmg modifier and they have screech which is basically a demo shout for you since u gonna be the one getting hit

  • @tsvetomirtsvetanov1201
    @tsvetomirtsvetanov1201 5 днів тому

    entrapment is the most important talent in surv tree and u skipped it. the proc chance is ridicilous and u can take down really hard quests by just kiting em in frost trap. also helps alot in dungs preventing mobs from fleeing cuz the chance of snare for 5 sec is pretty hugh

  • @bigbenhgy
    @bigbenhgy Рік тому +10

    I think intimidate, the only stun a hunter can have, is just too strong. So a hybrid BM-surv is the best. Your tips are very good, you should lvl up your defense and melee skills too, they are really important.

    • @robertb67
      @robertb67 Рік тому +5

      That's why you roll a Tauren, to get that racial stun.

    • @wowprobeast7543
      @wowprobeast7543 Рік тому

      @@robertb67ah yes I can stun enemy’s in melee range where they shouldn’t be anyways.

    • @heyzeus7783
      @heyzeus7783 Рік тому +10

      @@wowprobeast7543 You're on a survival hunter video, replying to a comment about a melee playstyle, suggesting that a melee hunter should never be in melee range. Y'all classic mains are wild.

    • @ericzettl1563
      @ericzettl1563 Рік тому

      ​@@heyzeus7783came to say this.

    • @lolkuuj6859
      @lolkuuj6859 Рік тому

      @@wowprobeast7543ah yes you have the reading and visual comprehension of a newt.

  • @smegg9676
    @smegg9676 Рік тому

    my very first character was a melee hunter back in the vanilla release-date days. played it to 24 or so then went priest. my pet bear was named stinky.

  • @Valariel
    @Valariel Рік тому +2

    I'd think a wolf pet would be great for this build as it would buff your melee hits with its howl

    • @lironbz1
      @lironbz1 Рік тому

      Cd on the ability is like 10 seconds, tough it is effective if you got aimed shot opener.

  • @andrespaz989
    @andrespaz989 Рік тому +2

    Wow thanks for the tip about FD will kill you if you leave it up full duration, im new to hunter and never knew that. I can just see me goin AFK in town or somthin and FD for shits n giggs and dying 😂

  • @brohemian
    @brohemian Рік тому +7

    in pvp survival hunters are the last thing I wanted to find in a bg as a rogue; makes really fun pvp matchups esp compared to aimshot kiting

    • @SeawulfTV
      @SeawulfTV  Рік тому +1

      Haha yeah, survival makes the match up against rogues more manageable! It also shines against most melee classes.

  • @TheZaomei
    @TheZaomei Рік тому +2

    Seems to me like the first solo leveling builds back in Vanilla at the end of open beta/starting of vanilla.

  • @bobbyr5536
    @bobbyr5536 Рік тому +1

    You've truly earned a sub here

  • @bonzo6805
    @bonzo6805 Рік тому +1

    rolling one as we speak, love the idea mate

  • @ericzettl1563
    @ericzettl1563 Рік тому +1

    Good video! Subbed today.

  • @tiagomelo5484
    @tiagomelo5484 Рік тому +8

    Thank you for hyping survival but as survival hunter myself, apologise but your advices are weak...
    . No, you want to train growl, the point of survival is not tanking mobs, but have more escape opportunities. Growl can be as well key saver in multiple mobs pulls.
    . No, you want to command your pet to attack first, and threat first. Get familiar with CTRL+1 Key
    . A boar may be better than a cat, as it can root and charge generates the most threat. As survival pulls more agroo from the pet, the boar can keep agroo for long at initial puls. Also an escape tool.
    . AGAIN, NO, you do not want to melle dps as survival... this just promoting the bad reputation survival hunters have. The point of melle habilities in survival are to allow you to escape faster in situations mobs get at melle range and make use of the time they are in melle range to also keep damage. That is also why you have Wing Clip and Counterattack. To escape and SURVIVE!

  • @majinlao9188
    @majinlao9188 14 днів тому +1

    I created a new hunter after watching this video, it's so funny... now I don't want to play with my BM hunter anymore 🤣

  • @lironbz1
    @lironbz1 Рік тому

    Beastmastery - lazy levelling, pet does the heavy lifting.
    Survival - over complicating gameplay with the need to fully utilize your traps play. But has great tools to avoid death.
    Marksmanship- maximum hunter damage but requires good threat management and high awareness to your surroundings.

  • @TheBecke1983
    @TheBecke1983 Рік тому +2

    This was my favorit way to level as a hunter back in Vanilla, i did it twice because of a server/faction swap with friends

  • @KrzOstr
    @KrzOstr Рік тому +2

    No. 1 reason to play survival hunter is the reduction of resisting feign death. This is the reason why I don't understand, why no one plays it.

    • @wowprobeast7543
      @wowprobeast7543 Рік тому +1

      Can’t resist feign if u don’t have to use it

    • @VegetoStevieD
      @VegetoStevieD Рік тому +1

      I agree. 👍
      [Improved Feign Death] and [Surefooted] are key.
      Hit chance is so good. You don't want your [Wing Clip] or [Concussive Shot] to miss when it counts, which is why [Surefooted] is OP, especially with the reduction of movement impairing abilities tacked on as a bonus.
      [Feign Death] especially, MUST work. If it's resisted, you are screwed, because you only use it when you NEED it to work. [Improved Feign Death] is probably the best talent a Hunter can have for HC, as you alluded to. [Surefooted] comes in 2nd place for similar reasons, and they're both right there next to each other.

    • @ducktorlarsen5574
      @ducktorlarsen5574 Рік тому +1

      Definitely, all hunter hc compilation deaths you see are essentially because of feign death resists occur, so the 2/2 Imp Feign Death is HUGE (if you ain't a "fighting red mobs Andy"

    • @nihsumi
      @nihsumi Рік тому

      @@VegetoStevieD in HC you shouldnt be in many situations from 1-60 that requires FD. Using FD is like your saying "Please God save me!" This means you have used your heal pot, Target Dummy, WingClip failed, distracting shot failed and some others I am prob forgetting. Survival is something you should do on a non-HC server.

    • @VegetoStevieD
      @VegetoStevieD Рік тому

      @@nihsumi
      🤣
      No. When you need it, you NEED it.

  • @chrisschmid5212
    @chrisschmid5212 Рік тому +5

    played a survival spec melee only hunter. pretty fun

    • @Arthur-jp6ik
      @Arthur-jp6ik Рік тому

      can you play it on night elf hunter ? i saw u cant use axes there but is it still good?

    • @SeawulfTV
      @SeawulfTV  Рік тому

      You can train axes in Ironforge.

  • @陳澤明-i2v
    @陳澤明-i2v Рік тому

    Thanks for the feign death knowledge 😊

  • @trickedouttech321
    @trickedouttech321 Рік тому +1

    Small rant with good info, lmao
    I don't know what you people mean by hunters having their pets do all the fighting, this must be jealous trolling because it holds zero truth, The best BM does not even do that, in fact at level 40 go fight a level 40 humanoid mob and just send in your pet, I bet my savings account if the pet does end up winning it takes like 5 min and you will have to heal the pet or it will die. In fact, if the hunter does not engage the enemy the pet will die. Even with the best BM hunter the pet at best is doing 20% of total damage to an enemy in a battle. That is on the high side. Even sending your cat with the best DPS, well cat and raptor, send in your level 40 cat on a level 40 cat mob or another animal. your pet will win, even without healing but it will take a long time, and it will only win by a small margin about 15% more health left than the mob. So no, the pet does not do the DPS or fighting for the hunter not even in BM spec.
    What does the pet do then in BM, it holds aggro that is what it does. it does not do high DPS or total damage it holds aggro so (you) can do high DPS or total damage. So anyone that claims the pet does the fighting is just a f**king m0r0n.
    Does a tank do all the fighting for a group? because that is what you are saying, What you are saying is why go into a dun with 5 people, the tanks do all the fighting. The tank does 100% the same thing for a group as the pet does for the BM or MM hunter it holds aggro.
    Survival is not a melee spec, not even close. can you get away with fighting like this guy in the video? yes. not in the end game, and not if the mobs you are taking on are one or more levels higher than you.
    For instance, at level 44 I was taking on level 49 and even 50 mobs. The only way I can do that is if my pet can hold aggro. I must stay under my pet's aggro meter or I will die. In survival, if you go running in all melee on a mob 5 or higher you are dead without question. Yes, you might get away with it in the perfect setting but on average you are dead.
    Remember hunters, you melee weapon skill, two-hand ax or sword whatever it is. should always be capped or close to it as you lvl, if not you are not playing the hunter to its fullest capabilities. Don't get me wrong, you do you, there is no right way to play this game, but there is a best practice, and keeping your melee skills caps is best practice.
    Don't get me wrong, I love the Survival spec. however, it is terrible practice to play it like a worrier, and go all melee, if you must go melee get in get out, and back into range, This is not only good practice for PvE but the skill you gain will help in PVP big time. for example, I melee weave no matter my spec, bm, mm, or sv Melee weaving is good gameplay as a hunter. With all that does. yes, with a good SV build if two hunters got caught up in melee and could not get out, the SV hunter would have the best chance, kind of, a good BM build can melee as well. Sometimes when I want to get my melee weapon skill level caught back up I will melee only, I will Serpent sting one auto shot and melee the rest of the fight. So that skill is not SV only, where I can not do that is if more than one mob is on me, or if the mob is a higher level than me, if I pull aggro I will be dead, dead I tell you dead. LOL.

    • @Bepples
      @Bepples Рік тому

      Great, level-headed advice. A lot of this video and comment section is people coping to try to make melee Hunter a thing.

  • @aldofer8832
    @aldofer8832 Рік тому +1

    is there a reason why you choose tauren over orc for example?

    • @SeawulfTV
      @SeawulfTV  Рік тому

      I personally like taurens, my first ever char was a tauren and I'm a big fan since Warcraft 3. I also used to pvp back in the day and loved the stun plus HP boost. I know that other classes might have slightly better racials for certain situations but I'm not into min maxing that much.

    • @VegetoStevieD
      @VegetoStevieD Рік тому

      The Orc pet damage bonus is appeals to the HunTARD playstyle, as it could only be placed into the Beast Mastery category. The +5 to axes is pretty good, but overall, I find Orcs to be superficial beyond their value on paper.

    • @aldofer8832
      @aldofer8832 Рік тому

      @@SeawulfTV i see, me too i do prefer tauren, but sometimes i tell myself i have to play other race for some variety. but yea since once i finish hardcore my character go straight into pvp server i might roll survival tauren. i'll see.

    • @aldofer8832
      @aldofer8832 Рік тому

      orc is mostly appeling for weapon bonus for melee and for pvp stun resist@@VegetoStevieD

    • @VegetoStevieD
      @VegetoStevieD Рік тому

      @@aldofer8832 Ya, I mentioned the +5 to axes, but yes, stun resist for PvP is certainly a major reason people roll Orc. True.

  • @lancekostecka368
    @lancekostecka368 Рік тому

    I played a beast spec hunter but I never shied away from melee and getting in the middle of pvp. Granted I was never on a hardcore server.

  • @Limitless_Doom
    @Limitless_Doom Рік тому +1

    Melee hunter on wotlk feels so much better with the updated mongoose strike

    • @Bepples
      @Bepples Рік тому

      You must be a moron if you play melee Hunter in WotLK.

  • @xtadeus4777
    @xtadeus4777 Рік тому

    Hi and thx for this video. I was main hunter in vanilla playing survival and will do it again here. But I would like to ask you if leatherworking to make good leather clothes instead of engineering is a good alternative or if engineering is still better for the hc experience

    • @SeawulfTV
      @SeawulfTV  Рік тому +1

      Hey! In terms of survivability engineering is the best profession for HC. You might be able to make some more gold with LW and maybe craft some gear later on. It depends on your play style really, I personally like to use the bombs in combat and have that target dummy escape plan ready.

    • @xtadeus4777
      @xtadeus4777 Рік тому

      ​@@SeawulfTVI will follow your advice and will try engineering 👍
      We will be unique compared to the mass.
      And what about gameplay in dungeon ? Do you stay at distance ? Or do you go CAC too as well like when questing ?

    • @SeawulfTV
      @SeawulfTV  Рік тому +1

      It depends on the group in dungeons, if I feel like we have a strong group I might take advantage of the Raptor Strike crits and try to use it on cooldown. If it's not the case it might be safe to just keep distance and mainly dps with the ranged attacks.

    • @leinonibishop9480
      @leinonibishop9480 Рік тому +1

      @@xtadeus4777 engineering can also make guns and better ammo so it can be good for hunters anyway even if not playing hardcore.

    • @xtadeus4777
      @xtadeus4777 Рік тому

      @@leinonibishop9480 I took engineering 👍 My hunter is level 15

  • @Arthur-jp6ik
    @Arthur-jp6ik Рік тому

    Can you play Night Elf hunter with the same strat

    • @SeawulfTV
      @SeawulfTV  Рік тому

      Sure, the race is not that important.

    • @Arthur-jp6ik
      @Arthur-jp6ik Рік тому

      i saw u cant use axes on night elf but is it still good with daggers?@@SeawulfTV

  • @jamesQodex
    @jamesQodex Рік тому

    You go BM until 40 then 20 points into survival. You stay this spec until you’re finished with pre bis farming and 60 dungeons. If you want to raid you have to go 40 points into Marksmen. Depending on your hit you can now go 20 points in survival or 20
    Points in BM

  • @greygoose8213
    @greygoose8213 Рік тому

    Why not wolf for Furious Howl?

    • @SeawulfTV
      @SeawulfTV  Рік тому

      The wolf can be a solid choice for this build, butI wanted to try out the wind serpent as his lightning breath does nature damage, and it can help diversify my damage output, as some mobs can have a lot of armor.

  • @GamingDualities
    @GamingDualities 10 місяців тому

    Great video ^^

  • @tremolo6940
    @tremolo6940 Рік тому

    Damg i wish i saw this video before hitting 10. Ive just been pulling aggro off my pet to level my defense lol

  • @CopeMasterFlexx
    @CopeMasterFlexx 3 місяці тому

    I NEED cheetah run though

  • @Spyro-
    @Spyro- Рік тому +3

    So if you want to Survive you play Survival, seems logical. 🤔😂

  • @matthewkeating-od6rl
    @matthewkeating-od6rl Рік тому +2

    great vid

  • @Rudohardt
    @Rudohardt Рік тому

    I just played marksman and didnt have any issues

  • @hagenisse
    @hagenisse Рік тому

    You should get improved aspect of the monkey as well.

  • @NeautralGround
    @NeautralGround Рік тому

    My man really said "with some creativity." 🤣My guy you frost trapped it which you should have done the first time.

  • @minichampion2
    @minichampion2 Рік тому +2

    Good video Sir

  • @Darkmanter36
    @Darkmanter36 Рік тому +3

    Can't tell if this guide is serious or just a meme. survival hunter is unfinished like other classes for example druid. BM hunter makes more sense for leveling - it increases the dmg of your pet so it makes it more easier to let him tank

    • @ben10in
      @ben10in Рік тому +1

      been leveling survival with entrapment and shit feels op at times

  • @Faelosia
    @Faelosia Рік тому

    Imagine kiting Majordomo without improved FD on HC x.x

  • @Limitless_Doom
    @Limitless_Doom Рік тому +2

    You need 2 h stave for sure. Especially on horde

  • @Mike_TGL
    @Mike_TGL Рік тому +3

    Chad Hunter

  • @PhilipAlexanderHassialis
    @PhilipAlexanderHassialis Рік тому

    "Ha ha bestial wrath goes brrrrr"
    - 99% of hardcore hunters before wipe.

  • @tylerm6080
    @tylerm6080 Рік тому

    immortal hunter guide. step one play hunter. step two use your eyes.

  • @wowprobeast7543
    @wowprobeast7543 Рік тому +5

    Tbh bro I like the effort for the guide but I disagree and still think bm is way better. Owl pet is best bc good dps and screech op. U do more dps and kill faster if u don’t take damage and just heal ur pet ez, also having a pet that can tank helps a lot more. Also ranged attacks just do more for hunter than melee due to ranged scaling with agi and that’s what we stack. Agi doesn’t give melee atp, melee doesn’t get 10-15% atk speed from quiver. Sv doesn’t have a stun aside from cow but tbh troll or dwarf would be better for hc due to poison clense and haste to kill mob faster. Also using monkey is good but more atp means faster killing. Killing faster means you have less chance to take damage bc the mob dies before it can even hit you 5 times. Bwrath is also a very strong cd to kill stuff faster, also wyvern sting is good until it’s any kind of elemental or rock immune to nature or poison. Also if the pet takes hits for u you can always leave it for dead while u get a head start to reset the mobs

    • @VegetoStevieD
      @VegetoStevieD Рік тому +2

      BM IS superior, but only superficially so. It's the supposed superiority that turns Hunters into HunTARDS, unable to deal with a situation that goes awry, because it's simply not built into the playstyle of the BM Huntard to be able to do so.
      BM fails at a more intangible level. It makes the player stupid.

    • @Rokalm
      @Rokalm Рік тому +1

      agility gives 1 melee attack power per point for hunters

    • @VegetoStevieD
      @VegetoStevieD Рік тому

      @@アマ-p2l
      You're talking about Classic, not Classic HC.

  • @raimondhyperburia3855
    @raimondhyperburia3855 Рік тому +1

    How would it be in pvp?

    • @SeawulfTV
      @SeawulfTV  Рік тому

      I used to play survival back in the day and it was very versatile. You are strong versus most melee classes and you can really surprise casters with some big crits when they try to keep close to you.

  • @xXHoRiiZoN32
    @xXHoRiiZoN32 Рік тому +1

    I appreciate your effort here. I’ve gotten 2 hunters to 60 HC. But leveling as survival is just pissing in the wind. I’ve seen high naxx gear make use of the 15% agility talent at the bottom, and pre raid spec half way to grab the surefooted 3% hit.
    But as for leveling come on now you’re just doing this to be different lol. BM gives you pet the extra damage to where he keeps aggro and ya know you can use your ranged weapon? If you’re in the melee dead zone expect to waste an ungodly amount of time spamming raptor strike . Leveling as survival might be doable but your gonna waste so much more time being a D tier melee at that point. The trap spam is heavy mana usage and waste more time drinking.
    I’m looking forward to your arcane solo mage leveling guide next!

    • @Bepples
      @Bepples Рік тому

      Good points. Classic players like to hype up "sleeper builds" without considering the limitations and why they aren't widely picked in the first place.

  • @8584zender
    @8584zender 7 місяців тому

    In hardcore, you should level up defense and melee weapon skill even if you go BM. Typically you just let the pet do only white damage, no abilities and chain pull green mobs. This needs to be done every level. There was no need to do this in Vanilla or retail but when dying is not an option...

  • @joedarling5175
    @joedarling5175 Рік тому +1

    I'm not down with this. This build does not allow you to face tank elites. BM until beastial wrath and then go survival has higher dmg and survivability. Play what u wanna play but this is a niche build for more adapt players wanting a different experience.

    • @ducktorlarsen5574
      @ducktorlarsen5574 Рік тому

      Yes, ofc you can't face tank elites, in that case if it's a melee elite, you just kite it with Cheetah. If you suddenly fuck up something, Survival Tree does help a lot with surviving cause of Deflection, Imp Wing Clip, Deterrence, CA and Surefooted talent. You can still start off my having your pet tank the elite (melee/ranged) and do lower DPS to not pull aggro from your pet, if the time comes that your pet will die, you can kite it or yeet. BM is good for preventing stuff to go wrong if you're playing right and you're 100% controlling the situation down to the last detail. But where HC really differs from normal Classic is when THINGS HIT THE FAN, and when that happens, BM doesn't provide you shit besides Intimidation, that's it. Survival does you a lot more when you suddenly get 3-4 mobs on you which your pet can pull off you. That's why I do thing Survival does have it's own merits in Hardcore.

  • @andrewheavenridge7955
    @andrewheavenridge7955 Рік тому +1

    I'm good, last 2 hunters I got a bunch of whispers after I died talking shit about me playing a Hunter.

    • @SeawulfTV
      @SeawulfTV  Рік тому +2

      Don't let toxic players dictate how you play the game, you can easily die in hardcore with any class!

    • @loverofbigdookies
      @loverofbigdookies Рік тому +1

      Just done die ez

    • @leinonibishop9480
      @leinonibishop9480 Рік тому +1

      there has been a problem with ppl whispering and harassing ppl that just died because they saw their death in the deathlog, it's probably not just because you played a hunter. don't take it personally and just report them.

  • @koalaninja2981
    @koalaninja2981 Рік тому +1

    I will have you know I tanked on a hunter and guess what! IT FUCKING WORKS besides the threat gen :(

  • @DurpeeSlurpee
    @DurpeeSlurpee 5 місяців тому

    Ironically more difficult than BM. If being different us what gets your rocks off, then go for it. But it’s not good

  • @hellgrin171
    @hellgrin171 Рік тому +13

    bro you are doing 0 damage

    • @GamingDualities
      @GamingDualities 10 місяців тому

      Hunter is best scalling class in the game right now with insane dodge and parry chance. U cal also go night elf to counter casters

  • @Quitarstudent
    @Quitarstudent Рік тому +1

    mentinoing classic + like its going to be a thing, pls no, or im going back to wow and i already know i dont have time for that ...

  • @EzahninFierceMBT
    @EzahninFierceMBT Рік тому +1

    Sounds like fun but I gotta work on my AoE Mage until 60...

  • @アマ-p2l
    @アマ-p2l Рік тому +1

    Efficient? Survival does no damage last time I checked beast mastery and MM were way better for leveling... so unless you're a noob who can't survive despite feign death and hunter being literally the best class to kite...

  • @Slythey
    @Slythey Рік тому +1

    survival spec is horrible to level with- this is just a meme build, nothing more

  • @Randoverse
    @Randoverse Рік тому +8

    For HC? Hell no. BM always.

    • @loverofbigdookies
      @loverofbigdookies Рік тому +2

      Fd resist and strong traps are crazy useful in HC. Your only chance of death is really in dungeons unless you make really horrible decisions whole solo. Having improved traps and fd might be what saves you and your group from a bad gnomer ledge pull.

    • @robertb67
      @robertb67 Рік тому +2

      I played BM for most of the time I played WoW. In hardcore, I did Survival. Suvival is way better IMO for leveling because there are times when going melee is the better option, such as Fenris Keep. Survival makes one's melee and traps much stronger, while just sacrificing some pet dps. You don't even get any good dps pet talents until the third and forth tiers of the talent tree.

    • @Randoverse
      @Randoverse Рік тому +1

      @@robertb67 Not saying SV is bad just BM gives way better chances of survival in my opinion.

    • @VegetoStevieD
      @VegetoStevieD Рік тому

      @@Randoverse BM is so overrated.

    • @aldofer8832
      @aldofer8832 Рік тому +1

      yea bm is strong, but if i want to afk i can play warlock or priest, i think hunter have the right to have some fun

  • @SupaNami
    @SupaNami 6 місяців тому

    My question is HTF a Russian get to post this shit in english!

  • @CarlosVerdinOfficial
    @CarlosVerdinOfficial 6 місяців тому +1

    This is the dumbest spec you could ever pick… just be a good hunter and use your pet. Take your time. Make extra trips to sell and empty bags. Refill ammo. Let your defense skill level up with low level mobs deliberately.. this spec will get you killed

  • @shade1ord
    @shade1ord Рік тому

    meh, not rly...

  • @Wopdi
    @Wopdi Рік тому

    survival is actually the worst ingame lmao

    • @robertb67
      @robertb67 Рік тому +4

      It actually isn't.

    • @VegetoStevieD
      @VegetoStevieD Рік тому +1

      Nope.

    • @Wopdi
      @Wopdi Рік тому

      weird no one uses it but yea@@robertb67

  • @eukelar
    @eukelar Рік тому

    Learn to kite 🪁 well and you’ll basically be a god. Watch your pets health if it gets low and you can’t save it start moving away at that point but pay attention to your surroundings , if the monster isn’t an elite it’ll be dead long before it gets close to you.