Just a detail. The cat does 22.22% more damage than the boar. Lets say a regular pet does 100 damage, the boar does 90 damage and the cat does 110 damage, 110 is not 20% more than 90, it is 22.22% more.
@@amurika6336 LOL, 2 years old but what the fuck is this comment. Like using a little nitpick to launch into saying "well he's wrong most of the time". Technically what he said was correct, in that there's a total difference of 20% between 90 and 110 %, but 110 is 22.22% more than 90. What a weird fucking comment man
Is that including the charge? How about damage taken? I remember a boar being tough, generating a lot of threats early, and eating anything. Cats feel like they take a lot of damage.
One detail you left out about intercept time is that at level 20 hunters have access to a 30% outdoor movement increase for their pets. It’s a Beast Mastery talent called Bestial Swiftness.
MrXaoras I wouldn’t say Dive and Dash aren’t valuable. Even if they don’t stack with Bestial Swiftness, the abilities provide a much greater speed boost when activated. I think both are worth it while leveling.
The Wind Serpent is only better than the Cat and Wolf if you don't put in a lot of effort with Pet management in raids. If you use some simple macros and work on knowing the boss fights from a melee perspective and choose when to pull pet back and when to head into the fray again you will see a significant increase of DPS. Not to mention if you can have a good uptime with the wolf and use mouseover macros to stack it on the melee members, you may see a noticeable output in raidwide dps. Though Rank 6 of Thunder Breath from the Hakkar Wind Serpent makes an argument for them again, although there are quite a few Bosses with nature resists. That said, the raids will be simple enough that min maxing isn't going to be necessary, just my two cents.
It seems that I have been playing my Dwarf Hunter completely wrong from the beginning. I just went for Bjarn (polar bear in Loch Modan. That trailer got me big time hooked :D) and never looked back! Got all the Spirit Beasts in WotLK though, just for their looks and always leveled with a Bear, all the way up to 110 :D.
theres a rare spawn scorpid in durotar in the same area as the venomtaail scorpids named death flayer. he makes a great pvp pet with an attack speed of 1.6 much faster than most scopids along with poison 1 and claw 2
Another tip with the training for abilities, when you learn the ability you receive a chat message that says: you have learned a new spell: X. I was confused on how much i had to spam the ability, but you get a message which is nice
I don't think it was specified, but *you must use the desired skill at least once with the temporary pet to learn it.* I wasted quite some time by taming a crocolisk for rank1 bite. I abandoned the beast before using bite once, and when I came back to teach it to my cat it wasn't in my list. Had to do whole run a second time ~
Dude I kept the same basic brown bair from level 10 to 70, never changing pets as BM hunter. I don't think I knew about different pet ranks 12 years ago
Leveling use a tank pet. 🐻 🐗 or 🦂. When you hit level 56 tame a 🐱 owl or wolf. The top bite comes from bloodaxe worg in lbrs so just keep it. Top claw comes from owl or bear in winterspring.
Hey bruv, thanks for the info. Made an HC hunter and followed through with your recommendations for an NE hunter. The whole training abilities on pets are pretty wild and immersive. thanks, and hope you continue to make vids.
Thanks for this video. First time Hunter and with being a Night Elf...I was confused as to what I should go for first. Always see people saying boars and raptors, etc. But I was like...ok...what about NE? And this helped guide me in the right direction. Kept searching and searching for something that would cover NE and this did. Much appreciated!
Coming into classic late there is so much to learn, one bag space no gold and you have to have your pet in the stable when going out to grab a new pet. The one thing you didn't mention is do you abandon the new pet you have after you learn a new ability then go on to tame a new one. That is a major PITA so you might want to mention that in the video.
I stable my pet I want to keep then tame a throw away pet I can abandon while on my way to get whatever pet I need for the new skill. Once new skill is learned from the pet I abandon it if it's not one I want to keep. You can have 2 pets in stable and one active so choose wisely.
Thank you Meta Goblin, thats exactly what i was looking for because i will Start 🛫 Classic as a Hunter but i back in vanilla i played rogue so this is helpfull
This is good advice, although Orcs and Trolls can just settle for a 1.3s attack speed Durotar Tiger. They are all over the place on the Echo Isles. (The Rake is 1.2s)
The attackspeed is only usefull against casters for disrupting casts. A faster pet does not do more damage then a slower. His base damage is lower so it levels out. So for example after 10 secs a 1 attackspeed cat has done equal the amount of damage as the 2 attackspeed cat. The first just hits twice as much for it.
@@bjrnchrstn Faster attack speed means more hits and a more even threat gain. If a slow attack speed pet misses it becomes far behind on threat if a fast attack pet misses it will hit so fast that the mob won't get threat on the hunter. For leveling I find this the most important factor in pet choice. I use the rake from 12-37 or 12 to 60 if I can't get brokentooth. I find the question of what pet is best really simple because speed > all.
As horde you just go with cat/boar until lvl 15 and run up to the path leading to the enterance of WC to tame a windserpent. Can be upgraded later in your 20's in Barrens and 1k needles. Best pet (easily tameable) for leveling and world pvp by far
Orc or Troll, just tame a Durotar Tiger on Echo Isles as your sole leveling pet, 1.3 second attack speed means you should never have to replace it with something else unless you really want a 1.2 second Swamp Jaguar/Feral Mountain Lion. Also, no need to tame a Snapper for Bite 2 at level 15--Just go to Stonetalon and tame a L16 Deepmoss Creeper for Bite 3.
@@OnlinePez We are talking leveling here. Once you are 60, by all means go after Broken Tooth in the Badlands as the premier PVP pet, but it is not worth it for leveling in Phase 1, especially. Attack speed does matter while leveling, but only because it helps proc frenzy more often, and I find frenzy to have almost 100% uptime with 4/5 in the talent, a 1.3s attack speed, and Claw on autocast.
Just because fast attack speed is desired in raids(where pet attacks from behind and takes advantage of "add x damage to melee attacks, ie. gift of arthas debuff) and in pvp (for interrupting spell casters) does not mean it is good choice for levelling. Mobs can block part of the damage comming from the front. Which is the direction your pet will attack from as pets attack from behind only if mob is having agro from someone else. Just an example. 10 seconds of hitting mob having ie. 20% chance to block 30 damage (mob block values are flat numbers, not % values) 1.0 AS, 50 damage per hit (50 DPS) means 500 damage, 2 attacks gets blocked(20%) for 30 damage each. 500-2*30= 440 damage 2.0 AS, 100 damage per hit (50 DPS) means 500 damage, 1 attack gets blocked(20%) for 30 damage. 500-30 = 470 damage. With bite and claw there is no issue of keeping frenzy up with 4/5 points invested in the talent even with 2.0 AS pet. Ofc fast attacking pet is somewhat justified if you intend to pvp alot however for pure levelling cat with 2.0 AS is a better choice than 1.0 AS.
@@Dexiefy I am trying to find documentation to back up your claim, but I am being unsuccessful. I am aware that block rating works in this manner for players taking damage in Vanilla, but I am not finding confirmation that run-of-the-mill leveling mobs work in the same manner. I only question your calculations because you are the first person I have heard to suggest a higher AS for a pet.
I think a huge pet that is really slept on is the carrion bird itself. I has medium health, armor, and damage. At first glance nothing special, how ever that do less damage than owl they make for being able to take more damage. They can also learn bite, screech, and claw, I personally just take bite and screech. Screech is an AOE debuff does small damage and even the debuff is small. What makes it so amazing is if you pull 2-3 mobs that aoe debuff is like demo roar, it hold aoe threat after first screech goes off fire away with a multi and he holds agro like a champ. Just let it roll around for a bit!!!!!
The bear pet has the most HP and defense so I would give it some credit as it would likely be better at tanking elite mobs compared to others, but yeah no dash....not really a big deal if we are being honest unless you are racing to level cap.
people keep getting the 1.12 thing wrong. The 1.12 start doesn't mean everything in the world is at a 1.12 state. It refers to primarily, talents and spell/ability coefficients. The patch progression has already been shared by Blizzard. So Lupos shadow damage should be there at launch and the same goes for the Wind Serpents nature damage.
Yeah dude me too! My first character in vanilla was dwarf Hunter and I was obsessed in taming Mangeclaw before moving to Loch Modan. I was inspired from the dwarf in the vanilla cinematic with the polar bear! I remember dieing many times from him because he has a stun ability. When I managed to tame him I was so excited! I kept him up to 43lvl, I replaced him with King Bangalash from stv. Good times!
Hey, nice guide, will you make more guide regarding hunter in preparation fro classic? like BIS pre raids and where to get them, some tips and tricks, gold farming, profession etc?
If DM tribute isn't blocked.... it;s broken.... engineering and enchanting ... just run solo tributes...richest dudes on the server...well if you disregard raids/guilds.... skinning/leatherworking if part/join un goro mafia... mara last few bosses... sell princess gear/runs...solo and disenchant........hunters are never short on gold.... had one dude doing 4 .. yes four tributes an hour on a private server... three is good though over 100g an hour...
as a horde grab a bat and no pet other then a bore as access to a gap closer till level 31-32 cats get dash birds get dive only downfall is screech u need to go to westfall to get the level 1 version bats are the top leveling pet easily hold aggro on 3 mobs at once
Just use a wolf. They have great all around stats and their unique howl ability lets them do as much dps as any pet while upping yours and your party. Also, bite has higher dps than claw. A focus dump is nice, but I'd rather have my pet use their special abilities while bite is on CD than dump all that focus.
Not gunna lie, boars for horde was a pain in the balloon knot... but worth getting, that charge is a game changer. I don’t remember ever pulling off my boar, that speed in, and first hit is so huge.
Intercept speed is nice but imo Gorilla is best once you're in your 30s. Many times the most sticky situations you'll find yourself in is multimob situations where your "oh shit" buttons are on cooldown. Keep this guy's thunderstomp off auto-cast and manual it when needed to generate more single target threat or to get that snap aoe threat when you've accidentally aggro too much. Yes, cat dps is nice and bats/birds can generate aoe threat a bit... but no where near the same level of tanky or snap aoe threat of a gorilla.
Wind serpent is WAY better than the other pets, tag master, ignores armor, starts dumping focus at 20 yards from the enemy which is usually one extra tick per fight. Can learn dive. Frontloads threat so hard it doesn't even need to waste focus on growl.
In case any Horde members out there are interested, you CAN in fact tame an Owl early game from Teldrassil. Level 8-9 Strigid Hunter, comes with Claw rank 2. Yes you will have to die a lot to get there as Teldrassil is Nelf Land. Nevertheless, it is achievable.
Strongly suggest agaisnt getting a boar. Even tho it has a high intercept time its cooldown is too long to make it an affective pet. There are 3 good options for leveling and this guide only touches 1 of them :) The owl.
Were you attacking a bear with your pet and taming it? How did that work in the private servers? In Vanilla you had to stable your pet to be able to tame a new one.
@@MetaGoblin As someone who prides their self on hunter knowledge I've never once heard of this as a technique, only as a flawed idea that never came to fruition. But out of curiosity I hoped into Classic beta and tested on one of my hunters at lower level. Sent pet in, abandoned and went to tame. Pet vanished the moment I pressed yes after saying abandon. (Edit) I went back and tried a few other ways, even tried what I guess you mean as taming then abandoning first pet right before tame finishes. Well pressing tame while having a pet doesn't work, and I never recall this being a thing to be able to do while having a pet out. Part of the issue that bothered me so much when seeing this was, to tame a pet YOU have to hold aggro. If YOU lose aggro whatsoever then the tame fails. Pretty sure this is a trait of private servers. Don't get me wrong, I am not a hater of private servers, but they got a LOT wrong. Did you know we could tame pets 2+lvls above ourselves? Yeah most forgot that, even I did until it became huge talk in the beta because 30 capped hunters with lvl 32 pets. Most still believe it is a bug, but after a LOT of thought I actually dug up vague memories of taming a pet two levels out for various reasons and that orange meant untamable. (in other words you can get that STV Tiger at 30 not 32) Or how growl is not a taunt when most private servers have it set as a full taunt, it just increases aggro not fully takes attention. This makes aggro loss from pet fairly easy sometimes especially in the 7-9 lvls. One last edition. You want faster attack speeds especially if lvl 35+ as BM. Moonstalker Runt is an exceptional pet right from Darkshore that has a 1.3 speed along with a beautiful unique color. With Elder Nightsaber sitting at 1.4. Not that big of a deal but if you're min-maxing then you'd get the Moonstalker Runt asap when hitting Darkshore, later nabbing one of the few 1.2'ers such as the Starving/Feral Mountain Lions in the Foothills.
@8:58 the tauren is taming a bear, in combat, and with already an active pet out? What sorcery is this? I play on a private vanilla WoW server, and that's just not possible
Do you require the previous rank of a pet ability in order to get the next rank? Or can you just go from say, rank 1 claw to rank 7 if you get the appropriate pet?
the level 32 stanglethorn tiger did not have dash 1 however the kurzen war tiger did! now Im not sure if its RNG to get the skill with the animal but the STV tiger at lvl 32 had no dash :(
Could have sworn at some point I read bite better than claw because your pet doesn't constantly dump all of its focus on claw so it has more focus to do things like dash/growl while having extremely similar damage and generally better threat.
@@hesketh7085 Huh. I kind of wonder if micro managing bite on wolves while they auto spam howl for more physical damage would be a net positive in dps. I'm actually curious now so Ima give it a shot. At the very least the more howls in a raid or dungeon the better for net dps of the party/raid.
Im an orc hunter and i got my owl at lvl 10 in teldrassil. Little bit of walking but you need to go up there anyways at some point. First screech was with 16 i believe in westfall. Strangle straight up and you are there. And i love my owl
Oh, you can get to Teldrassil as horde, it's just a pain in the ass. Lot of dying, including dying in front of the portal to Darnassus to get to the Dolanaar graveyard.
I prefer boars over cats because of that snap threat with charge, it also immobolizes the target for 1 second, but I think I'm gonna try out the cat now. Edit: Carrion birds make the best leveling pets, they are fast and tanky. they don't have as much armor as the boar, but they also don't have that damage debuff, making carrion birds one of the best tanking pets in the game. for pack gathering, I suggest Gorilla. Thunderstomp is amazing. but as you said, there is no speed increasing ablity, so not really viable unless you are farming mobs in a small area
Faultine is the best PVE pet. It is a Ferocity pet, however, it has the abilities of Tenacity pets which is damage reduction and extra healing buff, making it the best and toughest PVE pet. Also one of the largest pets, even larger than Druid in Bear form. :)
Took me 20 minutes to sneak over to Alliance territory to get my boars his skills. Been using the same boar since I was level 10. Now 30+ no regrets. He's always max loyalty and I don't have to keep wasting time to get more training points through loyalty. He also eats anything.
useful, but if you keep screech ranks up to date while leveling it will reduce the damage of multiple mods far more than a short stun. It has no cooldown and costs only a little focus while also doin a little bit of dps.
Do you have to have learned the previous ranked ability in order to learn the higher ranks? EG: can you not learn rank 3 bite, then tame a new pet, learn tank 4 bit and teach it to your main pet?
so basically, my boar i tamed at level 10 will never learn new abilities unless i take new animals that KNOW the abilities already? then those get added to my “library” of pet skills?
A true hunter never mind about long travel to get his/her favorite pet.
their favorite pets* You're welcome fellow companion.
@@LebonMatha his/her favorite pets* You're welcome.
@@BallHeadFreak Haha thanks
@David Matha (they) "identify" as hunters ✊
I walked from Darnassus to Mulgore at level 12 just for the rare lion. So yeah, I fully agree.
I always loved my Turtle for it's 'shell shield' when tanking.
Just a detail. The cat does 22.22% more damage than the boar. Lets say a regular pet does 100 damage, the boar does 90 damage and the cat does 110 damage, 110 is not 20% more than 90, it is 22.22% more.
Good catch, this guy is wrong most of time so..
@@amurika6336 LOL, 2 years old but what the fuck is this comment. Like using a little nitpick to launch into saying "well he's wrong most of the time". Technically what he said was correct, in that there's a total difference of 20% between 90 and 110 %, but 110 is 22.22% more than 90. What a weird fucking comment man
oh no he was 2% off. suck a dick
Is that including the charge? How about damage taken? I remember a boar being tough, generating a lot of threats early, and eating anything. Cats feel like they take a lot of damage.
Didn't realize we had the human abacus in chat
One detail you left out about intercept time is that at level 20 hunters have access to a 30% outdoor movement increase for their pets. It’s a Beast Mastery talent called Bestial Swiftness.
and im pretty sure it doesnt stack with dash and dive so they are not really that valueable
MrXaoras I wouldn’t say Dive and Dash aren’t valuable. Even if they don’t stack with Bestial Swiftness, the abilities provide a much greater speed boost when activated. I think both are worth it while leveling.
The wolf with furious howl is pretty good, especially early on. Though let's be honest, the Wind Serpent is the best with nature damage.
The Wind Serpent is only better than the Cat and Wolf if you don't put in a lot of effort with Pet management in raids. If you use some simple macros and work on knowing the boss fights from a melee perspective and choose when to pull pet back and when to head into the fray again you will see a significant increase of DPS. Not to mention if you can have a good uptime with the wolf and use mouseover macros to stack it on the melee members, you may see a noticeable output in raidwide dps. Though Rank 6 of Thunder Breath from the Hakkar Wind Serpent makes an argument for them again, although there are quite a few Bosses with nature resists. That said, the raids will be simple enough that min maxing isn't going to be necessary, just my two cents.
It seems that I have been playing my Dwarf Hunter completely wrong from the beginning. I just went for Bjarn (polar bear in Loch Modan. That trailer got me big time hooked :D) and never looked back! Got all the Spirit Beasts in WotLK though, just for their looks and always leveled with a Bear, all the way up to 110 :D.
hahaha i can totally relate, dwarf hunter with a gun, and a bear pet
theres a rare spawn scorpid in durotar in the same area as the venomtaail scorpids named death flayer. he makes a great pvp pet with an attack speed of 1.6 much faster than most scopids along with poison 1 and claw 2
This always my first pet when playing horde. Boar is overrated imo.
Just started playing hunter in endless wow and this guys is all I’ve needed. Thank you, sir! 🖤🤘🏼
Another tip with the training for abilities, when you learn the ability you receive a chat message that says: you have learned a new spell: X. I was confused on how much i had to spam the ability, but you get a message which is nice
Good recovery on the Balls part, respect
I don't think it was specified, but *you must use the desired skill at least once with the temporary pet to learn it.*
I wasted quite some time by taming a crocolisk for rank1 bite. I abandoned the beast before using bite once, and when I came back to teach it to my cat it wasn't in my list. Had to do whole run a second time ~
Thx for that info
Wow I played hunter back then completely wrong! I didn’t know you could use other animals moves... thanks!
Duuuddeee... LOL... Same with me. 15 years later I’m learning how to play Hunter in Vanilla 🤣🤣🤣
Ya.. Same here too...lol
Yepp same here sadly x)
Dude I kept the same basic brown bair from level 10 to 70, never changing pets as BM hunter. I don't think I knew about different pet ranks 12 years ago
Leveling use a tank pet. 🐻 🐗 or 🦂. When you hit level 56 tame a 🐱 owl or wolf. The top bite comes from bloodaxe worg in lbrs so just keep it. Top claw comes from owl or bear in winterspring.
i level with a Owl and its just the ''way'' period paly what ever you like but if we talking business ''OWL''
I am really in Love with my Owl Screech is Nice to hold Aggro on two mobs without getting attention after a Multi Shot and its lowers the Atk dmg
Worth the trip to teldrassil at level 10 imho.
Owls are a S tier pet. Theyre great in raid also to screech debuff the boss
Made a leveling path for my future Hunter, thanks to this video. :) Thanks for the vid! It will help a lot, come classic!
Hey bruv, thanks for the info. Made an HC hunter and followed through with your recommendations for an NE hunter. The whole training abilities on pets are pretty wild and immersive. thanks, and hope you continue to make vids.
Great info there man, i remember being kind of baffled the first time i heard you had to acquire new pet skill levels.
Thanks for this video. First time Hunter and with being a Night Elf...I was confused as to what I should go for first. Always see people saying boars and raptors, etc. But I was like...ok...what about NE? And this helped guide me in the right direction. Kept searching and searching for something that would cover NE and this did. Much appreciated!
My favorite pet is the gorilla, thunderstomp means it can actually hold aggro on more than one mob at a time, making for more effective farming.
Klaital1 this! Nobody ever mentions them either
Gorilla is BiS solo-ing pet imo.
I know it's been 5 years but I totally agree
Coming into classic late there is so much to learn, one bag space no gold and you have to have your pet in the stable when going out to grab a new pet. The one thing you didn't mention is do you abandon the new pet you have after you learn a new ability then go on to tame a new one. That is a major PITA so you might want to mention that in the video.
I stable my pet I want to keep then tame a throw away pet I can abandon while on my way to get whatever pet I need for the new skill. Once new skill is learned from the pet I abandon it if it's not one I want to keep. You can have 2 pets in stable and one active so choose wisely.
Thank you Meta Goblin, thats exactly what i was looking for because i will Start 🛫 Classic as a Hunter but i back in vanilla i played rogue so this is helpfull
For Tauren, try to find if the rare "The Rake" is alive in Mulgore, cuz it has an amazing attack speed even for a cat.
This is good advice, although Orcs and Trolls can just settle for a 1.3s attack speed Durotar Tiger. They are all over the place on the Echo Isles. (The Rake is 1.2s)
The attackspeed is only usefull against casters for disrupting casts.
A faster pet does not do more damage then a slower. His base damage is lower so it levels out. So for example after 10 secs a 1 attackspeed cat has done equal the amount of damage as the 2 attackspeed cat. The first just hits twice as much for it.
@@bjrnchrstn that's technically wrong, the faster they attack the better chance it has to proc passives, which leads to more damage
@@bjrnchrstn Faster attack speed means more hits and a more even threat gain. If a slow attack speed pet misses it becomes far behind on threat if a fast attack pet misses it will hit so fast that the mob won't get threat on the hunter. For leveling I find this the most important factor in pet choice.
I use the rake from 12-37 or 12 to 60 if I can't get brokentooth.
I find the question of what pet is best really simple because speed > all.
As horde you just go with cat/boar until lvl 15 and run up to the path leading to the enterance of WC to tame a windserpent. Can be upgraded later in your 20's in Barrens and 1k needles. Best pet (easily tameable) for leveling and world pvp by far
best PVP pet in the game
How so ?
@@stevenchilson4044 cause of range blast that shit hits hard
Im playing a dwarf hunter so my pet has to be an ice claw bear, that summarizes my point.
Orc or Troll, just tame a Durotar Tiger on Echo Isles as your sole leveling pet, 1.3 second attack speed means you should never have to replace it with something else unless you really want a 1.2 second Swamp Jaguar/Feral Mountain Lion.
Also, no need to tame a Snapper for Bite 2 at level 15--Just go to Stonetalon and tame a L16 Deepmoss Creeper for Bite 3.
brokentooth has a 1.0
@@OnlinePez We are talking leveling here. Once you are 60, by all means go after Broken Tooth in the Badlands as the premier PVP pet, but it is not worth it for leveling in Phase 1, especially. Attack speed does matter while leveling, but only because it helps proc frenzy more often, and I find frenzy to have almost 100% uptime with 4/5 in the talent, a 1.3s attack speed, and Claw on autocast.
Taming at him at 60 is a real pain to level him.
Imo I think it's better to get him at 37 to 40
Just because fast attack speed is desired in raids(where pet attacks from behind and takes advantage of "add x damage to melee attacks, ie. gift of arthas debuff) and in pvp (for interrupting spell casters) does not mean it is good choice for levelling.
Mobs can block part of the damage comming from the front. Which is the direction your pet will attack from as pets attack from behind only if mob is having agro from someone else.
Just an example.
10 seconds of hitting
mob having ie. 20% chance to block 30 damage (mob block values are flat numbers, not % values)
1.0 AS, 50 damage per hit (50 DPS) means 500 damage, 2 attacks gets blocked(20%) for 30 damage each. 500-2*30= 440 damage
2.0 AS, 100 damage per hit (50 DPS) means 500 damage, 1 attack gets blocked(20%) for 30 damage. 500-30 = 470 damage.
With bite and claw there is no issue of keeping frenzy up with 4/5 points invested in the talent even with 2.0 AS pet. Ofc fast attacking pet is somewhat justified if you intend to pvp alot however for pure levelling cat with 2.0 AS is a better choice than 1.0 AS.
@@Dexiefy I am trying to find documentation to back up your claim, but I am being unsuccessful. I am aware that block rating works in this manner for players taking damage in Vanilla, but I am not finding confirmation that run-of-the-mill leveling mobs work in the same manner.
I only question your calculations because you are the first person I have heard to suggest a higher AS for a pet.
I think a huge pet that is really slept on is the carrion bird itself. I has medium health, armor, and damage. At first glance nothing special, how ever that do less damage than owl they make for being able to take more damage. They can also learn bite, screech, and claw, I personally just take bite and screech. Screech is an AOE debuff does small damage and even the debuff is small. What makes it so amazing is if you pull 2-3 mobs that aoe debuff is like demo roar, it hold aoe threat after first screech goes off fire away with a multi and he holds agro like a champ. Just let it roll around for a bit!!!!!
I mean I appreciate this as a video for optimized stats I still just use the pets I like the look of but this was very information filled Nd I love it
I literally walked to the Barrens as a NE at level 11 and 23 for The Rake and Humar respectively purely for their fast attack speed and unique looks 😂
This is a very good video, I also really just wanna say I appreciate finding another goblin dude
Background music? Made me go back 10 years and don't know why
its wow music lmao
The bear pet has the most HP and defense so I would give it some credit as it would likely be better at tanking elite mobs compared to others, but yeah no dash....not really a big deal if we are being honest unless you are racing to level cap.
I've always ran with a bear just because it was the hunter pet shown in the cinematic lolol
exactly the video i was looking for, as always good stuff!
Loved that UI! Nice video mate!
Thank you for doing all these tutorials and info gathering videos
Why stranglehold tiger with 1.3 attack speed over the starving mountain lion with 1.2?
what about The Rake?
As a Night Elf, I found the walk to get the Rake quite worth it.
Just remember its 1.12 so lupo doesnt do shadow damage
people keep getting the 1.12 thing wrong. The 1.12 start doesn't mean everything in the world is at a 1.12 state. It refers to primarily, talents and spell/ability coefficients. The patch progression has already been shared by Blizzard. So Lupos shadow damage should be there at launch and the same goes for the Wind Serpents nature damage.
Lupos does physical damage on the beta, so don't count on him ever doing shadow damage.
That’s sad. Would add some flavor to Duskwood. Thx for the update
Well maybe Broken Tooth will still have the ridiculously fast attack speed at least.
and Snarler doesn't have elemental resists
I'm a Dwarf Hunter in classic and I went with the White Bear Mangeclaw for my first pet... I just like how tanky he is.
Yeah dude me too! My first character in vanilla was dwarf Hunter and I was obsessed in taming Mangeclaw before moving to Loch Modan. I was inspired from the dwarf in the vanilla cinematic with the polar bear! I remember dieing many times from him because he has a stun ability. When I managed to tame him I was so excited! I kept him up to 43lvl, I replaced him with King Bangalash from stv. Good times!
Hey, nice guide, will you make more guide regarding hunter in preparation fro classic? like BIS pre raids and where to get them, some tips and tricks, gold farming, profession etc?
If DM tribute isn't blocked.... it;s broken.... engineering and enchanting ... just run solo tributes...richest dudes on the server...well if you disregard raids/guilds.... skinning/leatherworking if part/join un goro mafia... mara last few bosses... sell princess gear/runs...solo and disenchant........hunters are never short on gold.... had one dude doing 4 .. yes four tributes an hour on a private server... three is good though over 100g an hour...
as a horde grab a bat and no pet other then a bore as access to a gap closer till level 31-32 cats get dash birds get dive only downfall is screech u need to go to westfall to get the level 1 version bats are the top leveling pet easily hold aggro on 3 mobs at once
Just use a wolf. They have great all around stats and their unique howl ability lets them do as much dps as any pet while upping yours and your party. Also, bite has higher dps than claw. A focus dump is nice, but I'd rather have my pet use their special abilities while bite is on CD than dump all that focus.
Can't get an owl until level 48? I snuck in at about level 16 as horde and my Owl's my best mate!
Not gunna lie, boars for horde was a pain in the balloon knot... but worth getting, that charge is a game changer. I don’t remember ever pulling off my boar, that speed in, and first hit is so huge.
cats are even better when playing as orc since u get an aditional 5 % beast dmg
Richard in der Weide wouldn’t all 3 be considered beasts though?
Super helpful guide. Thanks!
Intercept speed is nice but imo Gorilla is best once you're in your 30s. Many times the most sticky situations you'll find yourself in is multimob situations where your "oh shit" buttons are on cooldown. Keep this guy's thunderstomp off auto-cast and manual it when needed to generate more single target threat or to get that snap aoe threat when you've accidentally aggro too much. Yes, cat dps is nice and bats/birds can generate aoe threat a bit... but no where near the same level of tanky or snap aoe threat of a gorilla.
Wind serpent is WAY better than the other pets, tag master, ignores armor, starts dumping focus at 20 yards from the enemy which is usually one extra tick per fight. Can learn dive. Frontloads threat so hard it doesn't even need to waste focus on growl.
Wind Serpent is the best.
I check this video so often its crazy
In case any Horde members out there are interested, you CAN in fact tame an Owl early game from Teldrassil. Level 8-9 Strigid Hunter, comes with Claw rank 2.
Yes you will have to die a lot to get there as Teldrassil is Nelf Land. Nevertheless, it is achievable.
I know this is a 5 year old video but is there a video to his UI? Specifically at the 9:20 mark. Looks really good imo.
Very nice guide
This video is wrong, everyone knows the only pet you ever need is echeyakee and name him Cecil. >
Dentist's crit on him
Name him black ass
I'm alliance and even I tamed echeyakee. Echeyakee is life Echeyakee is love.
You forgot about wind serpents, they can dive and also pull from a distance with lightning breath.
Just got yourself a new sub my dude I’m brand new to wow cause of a buddy The way the video is makes me happy easy to understand thank you good sir
Love ur content, keep on keeping on ^^
charge lvl 4 is trainable at the pet trainer. but the rest, good video!! thanks!
ok you talked me into it - horde hunter gotta go tame belly grub
Strongly suggest agaisnt getting a boar. Even tho it has a high intercept time its cooldown is too long to make it an affective pet. There are 3 good options for leveling and this guide only touches 1 of them :) The owl.
Eduardo Marchant Owl, Cat or Wind Serpents are the best imo.
This was very helpful. Thank you.
Were you attacking a bear with your pet and taming it? How did that work in the private servers?
In Vanilla you had to stable your pet to be able to tame a new one.
Abandon it last second.
@@MetaGoblin as far as I remember, in vanilla it would not allow you to cast Tame Beast if you had a pet on you. Interesting.
@@netyoh you could.
@iPirateTv what do you mean? It allows you to cast Tame Beast while you have a pet on you? What happens to your current pet then?
@@MetaGoblin As someone who prides their self on hunter knowledge I've never once heard of this as a technique, only as a flawed idea that never came to fruition. But out of curiosity I hoped into Classic beta and tested on one of my hunters at lower level.
Sent pet in, abandoned and went to tame. Pet vanished the moment I pressed yes after saying abandon. (Edit) I went back and tried a few other ways, even tried what I guess you mean as taming then abandoning first pet right before tame finishes. Well pressing tame while having a pet doesn't work, and I never recall this being a thing to be able to do while having a pet out. Part of the issue that bothered me so much when seeing this was, to tame a pet YOU have to hold aggro. If YOU lose aggro whatsoever then the tame fails.
Pretty sure this is a trait of private servers. Don't get me wrong, I am not a hater of private servers, but they got a LOT wrong. Did you know we could tame pets 2+lvls above ourselves? Yeah most forgot that, even I did until it became huge talk in the beta because 30 capped hunters with lvl 32 pets. Most still believe it is a bug, but after a LOT of thought I actually dug up vague memories of taming a pet two levels out for various reasons and that orange meant untamable. (in other words you can get that STV Tiger at 30 not 32) Or how growl is not a taunt when most private servers have it set as a full taunt, it just increases aggro not fully takes attention. This makes aggro loss from pet fairly easy sometimes especially in the 7-9 lvls.
One last edition. You want faster attack speeds especially if lvl 35+ as BM. Moonstalker Runt is an exceptional pet right from Darkshore that has a 1.3 speed along with a beautiful unique color. With Elder Nightsaber sitting at 1.4. Not that big of a deal but if you're min-maxing then you'd get the Moonstalker Runt asap when hitting Darkshore, later nabbing one of the few 1.2'ers such as the Starving/Feral Mountain Lions in the Foothills.
Should I stable my pets when I move up to the next or just abandon them for the next??
As a NE, why not tame a boar and get charge in Teldrasil ?
@8:58 the tauren is taming a bear, in combat, and with already an active pet out? What sorcery is this? I play on a private vanilla WoW server, and that's just not possible
Hey thanks for this guide! I want to level a hunter first, so this is great for me.
Do you require the previous rank of a pet ability in order to get the next rank? Or can you just go from say, rank 1 claw to rank 7 if you get the appropriate pet?
You got a pretty calming voice, you would kill it as an ASMR channel.
Can u do a video about this for the WOTKL ?
the level 32 stanglethorn tiger did not have dash 1 however the kurzen war tiger did! now Im not sure if its RNG to get the skill with the animal but the STV tiger at lvl 32 had no dash :(
Might of been a young stranglethorn tiger. Only the adult versions have dash along with the kurzan tigers as well
Could have sworn at some point I read bite better than claw because your pet doesn't constantly dump all of its focus on claw so it has more focus to do things like dash/growl while having extremely similar damage and generally better threat.
I've read similar. Everyone bangs on about Owls, but I think Bats are where it's at.
@@hesketh7085 Huh. I kind of wonder if micro managing bite on wolves while they auto spam howl for more physical damage would be a net positive in dps. I'm actually curious now so Ima give it a shot. At the very least the more howls in a raid or dungeon the better for net dps of the party/raid.
WOW! Thanks for posting this
Does this still apply for TBC Classic? Wondering the paths for Draenei and Blood Elf.
Amazing vid!
Can you skip ranks on skills or you have to go 1 by 1 ?
yes you can skip... just tame and learn a rank 3 Claw/Bite then train you pet ...
Thanks, that's very useful!
Honestly I always go with Deathflayer. 1.6 attack speed, great armour and health, plus a poison for nasty stealth targets
how come the claw ability disappeared when I abandoned the surf crawler for Savannah Huntress???
look at beast training in general tab of spell book
Elune be praised!
Im an orc hunter and i got my owl at lvl 10 in teldrassil. Little bit of walking but you need to go up there anyways at some point. First screech was with 16 i believe in westfall. Strangle straight up and you are there. And i love my owl
If you die at rut'thera Village you ress outside of Darnasus, right?
Which abilities do I want to train my pet with? Growl, bite, claw, dash. But you can buy all these resistances and stamina etc. Do I want any of that?
Do owls not have a 'disarm' ability?... seem to remember this from years ago!
Oh, you can get to Teldrassil as horde, it's just a pain in the ass. Lot of dying, including dying in front of the portal to Darnassus to get to the Dolanaar graveyard.
6:59 You tame a forest lurker then ditch it for a boar or do you have to use the stable master?
Leon yes, you are able to have 3 pets but you have to store them in a stable soo
Once you get the indicator that you have learned etc bite rank 2 from a pet you can ditch it and learn it to your old pet or any new pet.
Do I have to put each pet in a stable for swapping to all these pets or can I abandon each pet
I prefer boars over cats because of that snap threat with charge, it also immobolizes the target for 1 second, but I think I'm gonna try out the cat now.
Edit: Carrion birds make the best leveling pets, they are fast and tanky. they don't have as much armor as the boar, but they also don't have that damage debuff, making carrion birds one of the best tanking pets in the game. for pack gathering, I suggest Gorilla. Thunderstomp is amazing. but as you said, there is no speed increasing ablity, so not really viable unless you are farming mobs in a small area
Are ravagers and good in retail??
What is the best ability combo for leveling? Thx
Okay so first u say use a boar to 32 and then u say tame a surf crawler and then a savanah huntress?
Faultine is the best PVE pet. It is a Ferocity pet, however, it has the abilities of Tenacity pets which is damage reduction and extra healing buff, making it the best and toughest PVE pet. Also one of the largest pets, even larger than Druid in Bear form. :)
What are the best pets for Blood elves?
No wind serpent?
Took me 20 minutes to sneak over to Alliance territory to get my boars his skills. Been using the same boar since I was level 10. Now 30+ no regrets. He's always max loyalty and I don't have to keep wasting time to get more training points through loyalty. He also eats anything.
does gore exist in vanilla? thought just tbc on
what about wolf they have furious howl and its working on pet too
i got the savannah huntress but it doesnt start with any abilites including dash. am i missing something?
if you are looking for all the bite levels, can you skip all the levels if you tame a Rank 7 saltwater snapjaw?
What about " dive" path for wind serpants ?
I always used to have the gorillas with the thunderstomp so I can aoe multiple mobs
useful, but if you keep screech ranks up to date while leveling it will reduce the damage of multiple mods far more than a short stun. It has no cooldown and costs only a little focus while also doin a little bit of dps.
Do you have to have learned the previous ranked ability in order to learn the higher ranks? EG: can you not learn rank 3 bite, then tame a new pet, learn tank 4 bit and teach it to your main pet?
You can skip ranks. If you have bite 2 then learn bite 5 from another pet, as long as the pet is high enough level it can go from 2 - 5.
so basically, my boar i tamed at level 10 will never learn new abilities unless i take new animals that KNOW the abilities already? then those get added to my “library” of pet skills?
so what your saying is that you have to kill a boar that higher then your own boar to get it to learn higher rank?
No, when you see a higher boar tame it and get the higher ranked skill.
You will need to stable your pet first..