I may have to try this out. Right now i have to use a sub group for analog compression and eq. With the 404 i can use the analog stuff for FOH and run the 4 channels i want to process, independently, and free up my sub group and 4 other channels on the board. It would cost me less than buying a modern digital mixer and i could keep the setup i have until i decide if i like the digital route, if not, just simply pull 4 plugs and press 4 buttons and im back to analog.
I’ve been searching for how to accomplish this setup years ago and ended up trying it myself 😅 ; which worked. Great content!! It’s exciting to see someone else actually doing it!
I don't understand how you "insert" something into the same channel. Is there a "pick point" on the channel so the board knows where to pass the signal? A quick "how to" would help. Thank you for sharing!
In this example, the Mackie analog mixer has 1/4in insert jacks on the mic channels. The insert cable goes there on the mixer. The send and return ends go to the interface.
In my example, the Mackie mixer had channel inserts on the back of the board for ch 1 through 6. My interface had 4 inputs so I was using 4 channels on the mixer, 4 channels on my interface, and so 4 channels of Waves Superrack. Each Superrack channel can have multiple plug-ins. These Superrack channels can be copy/pasted to each other to do the same thing or can be completely separate. I was in a corporate setting using wireless mics for speech. But it could have been computer audio or instruments on the mixer channels going to/from Waves Superrack.
Thank you Scott! That was exactly what I was wanting to know. Very helpful and cool idea. Another question: Do you have any issues with latency coming back from the laptop? I'm assuming it's low enough that it's not noticeable. Thanks again and here's to a wonderful, gig filled 2023!!🎊🎊🎊
Near zero latency. Their EMO High-Pass, PEQ, Compressor that I showed have zero latency. Each channel will show it's latency. With the Dugan automix, the EMO plugins and the GEQ the channel showed a latency of 3. It depends what you add to the channel.
I believe you could do that and it would work just fine. My thinking was to use Superrack as an insert (inserting it into the analog board channel). But your description should also work the same. Thanks for helping with a new way to look at this!
Question: Can you recommend an interface that would handle 12 channels? I have an Allen & Heath Qu-24 that I'm using the first 12 for FOH. There's a USB-B connector on it, but it's only output OR input, not 2-way. So I'm looking at your setup and would really like to try this if I can find an interface for 12 channels to connect the laptop and use SuperRack Performer on that.
In my example, I'm using the interface as an insert into the analog board. BUT what I could have done, and you could do this, is have the mic XLR go into the interface, get processed by the computer plug-ins, then go out of the interface into a mixer channel input (probably a line input from the interface). I haven't tried this yet but I've seen some small analog boards without inserts. I would have the mic XLR go into the interface, process with plug-ins, then 1/4" cable out to 1/4" cable into a line input on the mixer. You would need to try this with a 12ch interface. This way you aren't using any mixer USB, you would have freedom to use channel inputs. The only USB should be the interface to the computer. Has anyone else tried this?
@@DallasSoundGuys On the Qu mixers, there are ¼" TRS insert jacks on each channel, so I should be able to do what you did in the video. I just need to find an interface with enough channels. Right now I can only use the built-in processing in the mixer, which just isn't adequate. We got it new in 2015. It's ancient compared with today's standards.
In my example with a Mackie analog mixer, I used the channel inserts, as you are looking to do. My 4ch interface worked great. I would expect the same from a higher channel count interface. I see Behringer has an 8ch interface but that's not enough for you. I've used mine a few times as I've shown and even used it once as an emergency basic mixer, when an extra room was added to an event.
you really aren't going to find one at a good cost. you will find 4 outputs or something. For your scenario of 12 channels of inserts going to an interface and then returning that is a lot of hoops to jump through. Time for a console upgrade for music at least. I've used the QU16 for corporate and it has all the basics built-in. The video shows how to do it with 2-4 mics on an analog console and a small interface that has 4 OUTPUTS.
I don't get how the sound gets from the UMC to the speaker... How do I set this up if I have a basic analog setup with Mixer, graphic EQs and amplifiers? But I want to run some plugins just for a vocal channel...how does the signal get back into the Mixer to feed it into the FOH...all analog though
Great question. Set up your analog board like normal with mics, speakers, etc. That doesn't change. Then insert the interface using the channel inserts on the back of the Mackie board. Use it like you would any external inserted piece of hardware.
thank you but i have one question how i can do this to all the channels with one laptop ? it's like i need to use one laptop with every channel but i want to use on all my channels, sorry for my english i'm french
The software allows multiple channels. The interface connects between the mixer and the laptop. In my example I was able to control 4 channels, the software can do 32 channels
In my example with a mackie analog mixer, the interface was just so that I could somehow insert Waves Superrack into the mixer channels. I have a Yamaha DM3 digital mixer and the new 2.0 software allows the USB-C cable on the back to work as inserts on up to 18 channels. I can connect a USB from my DM3 mixer to my computer and Waves Superrack sees the mixer. I'm able to use Superrack without an interface in that instance because the DM3 is the interface as well as the mixer. Many analog mixers need the interface as a way to insert Superrack into their analog mixer channels.
Bringing all of that vs bringing a small digital console. Lots of points of failure. Cost? Mackie provided by hotel, your owned laptop & audio interface & 1/4” TS to 1/4” TS insert cables. It is a great solution but a somewhat unelegant setup. I can see this great for solo or duo musicians on a small gig with owned equipment. They can have presets of FX chains for a setlist.
I agree that a digital mixer would be the best solution. In another video I show one of my most used pieces of equipment with a flyable X32 Rack and 4ch of Axient Digital RF. I would have brought that in if I was allowed to. My solution was to insert SuperRack into what was set up by the hotel. For years I brought full production to this event. When the client signed a new 3 year contract with the venue the hotel wanted the AV money and forced the client to use the hotel AV. No more outside production companies can provide AV. We were allowed to still come in and operate the event but it had to be the hotel provided AV. Thanks for the idea, I agree with you on this!
If it’s up to me I would also my own gear from home but sometimes when I freelance for other companies it’s not allowed. We are forced to use their gear or the hotels so this is the next best thing.
@@DallasSoundGuys This is a fantastic solution to being pigeonholed into something by higher up Financial decision. Nice work making it happen and still using their analog mixer. It would be even funnier if you use the DAW digital mixer in your laptop and right of the main ounce into their analog mixer
I haven't but as long as your DAW sees the interface (the Behringer unit or whatever brand you use) as your DAW IO, then I would think you could record multitrack this way. Since the Behringer is converting the signal to digital and sending it to the laptop, you might be able to also send that to record as a multitrack in a DAW. Dante could possibly be another way to capture channels from your Mixer and send them into your DAW. Thanks!
Hello thank you for video! Will latency be too much for live vocal performances? I would like to send to stage monitors, preferably some reverb and voice correction, and a de-esser, or would this cause too much latency? I have a M1 macbook and only three singers on stage. Im one of the singers and have to control the board on stage.
A lot of people use this for their singers through the main PA, the latency might be noticed in a monitor, I don't think it would work with in ear monitors. It might work with stage monitors but I haven't tried. Anyone else reading this have experience using this with floor monitors? Thanks everyone!
Latency from the software is near zero. The eMo plug-ins I used have zero latency (high-pass filter / PEQ / Compressor). Some plug-ins available have zero, moderate or noticeable latency. Superrack has Latency Groups so align signals at the output of the software. I hope this helps, thanks!
@@DallasSoundGuys Thanks for the reply! It does help to know that those are "zero latency plugins" I have the eMo plugs as well, but haven't had time to investigate them (they came in a bundle). However to my understanding, that's zero Plug-In Latency within the DAW or plugin host, SuperRack in this case. Round-Trip Latency is to do with the Interface and going from A-to-D, processing, then D-back-to-A. In the studio setting, for example, most interfaces built-in a 'direct mixer' function or whatever they call it to go from the inputs directly to the artist headphone outs. The reason is that there's too much latency to go from Interface Mic Pre -> A-D/DAW -> D-A Interface Headphone Amp. The lag is too much for the artist's performance. So you effectively Overdub and bring a mix back from the DAW blended with the direct Mic into the headphone amp. Universal Audio's claim to fame is onboard DSP allowing the use of plugins in "real-time" without actually going through the DAW. But even that realtime isn't realtime or true zero-latency, but it's low enough to Not interfere with the performance. I also have a Presonus Quantum interface that, rather than using DSP and a dedicated Side-Car/Console app to your DAW (or locking you into using Only their plugins) the Quantum series boasted a Thunderbolt connection with No in-between software just direct access to your DAW. And at 24-bit/192khz it claims 0.91ms Rountrip Latency. So less than 1ms interface latency may as well feel like real-time on an analog insert, but I can't see that Behringer Not feeling like a big delay if you were to say: Talk into the mic plugged into the board, with headphones also plugged into that board. Then plug and unplug that insert jack and see if you hear yourself on an unintentional slapback? If it Really is latency free, or even latency negligible, then AMAZING. That would mean that SuperRack really is super at doing what DAWs can't. Last thought: For live use I could get away with a lot more latency than in the studio. Plus you can always do monitor mixes off the Analog board and process what goes to the Main Mix (as we've always done since Tape Machines had the same delay problem between the record and playback heads).
@@G_handle Use case is going to play a big factor into your question then. For me, I run a lot of corporate sound. In my testimony given my client was forced to use the in house AV, or pay a heavy fine to let me bring my own gear as I had in the past. I could have used their Mackie board with built in EQ and be done with it but I had my interface with me and it gave me the control I needed. The distance from the ceiling speakers to the guests was far greater a factor than any latency I might have introduced. That was just my example. I wasn't running a band with in-ears in this example to make SuperRack potentially unusable. Thanks!
@@DallasSoundGuys Again thanks for the reply! Gotcha, Yes I agree if no one is direct monitoring then the latency from the nearest Monitor is 1ms per foot, far more than the RT & Plugin latency combined. I too do a fair bit of Corporate Audio. And Video! Which makes me wonder if there might be sync issues with the Video switcher? The only other thought is that if say you had a panel on stage with multiple mics open. Already that's a phase challenge in straight analog. Feeding the inserts to a Waves/Dan Dugan would be great option and in that case All of the mics would be routed through, so incur the same latency. But if you had two or more open mics, and you processed one and not the others, that latency once mixed would cause phase cancellations as well as the timing delays, would it not? Again a way around that is to have all the channels with open mics going through the same route. A lot to think about, I have a ton of gear to play with (though not SuperRack) so thanks for the inspiration. Two Asides: 1) I've long used and recommend using an additional (old) computer and interface for Effects sends in the studio. (Putting Convolution Reverbs and Delays on their own computer and CPU away from the DAW machine at 192 Oversampling ETC, maximum quality because that's the only thing running. And the Latency doesn't matter because they're time-based effects, so you tune the timing to ear anyways.) 2) What is that laptop stand? Lol. It looks pretty clean. How stable is it and do you recommend it? Thanks again!
@@G_handle www.amazon.com/gp/product/B08KZTBPH8/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o09_s00?ie=UTF8&th=1 That's the stand, I got it two years ago. It takes more effort than I expected to open it and close it, so I have no fear of it moving at all during use. The taller you go though, the more the base is in front and the top is behind the center of gravity, then it would be tippy? I don't go that high, and/or I have something below that laptop to add some weight to the base. I have a Blackmagic Design 2M/E Constellation for video. I don't run the audio through that, I use my M32R or similar most often. I'll have to put a video together on the switcher soon! I also have an annual event coming up where I use 12-14 wireless mics. (Usually no more than 5 at a time, someone is always being mic'd up or taking mics from them while the next people are already presenting). I do have the Dugan in Superrack for that. 4 of the wireless are handheld. 3 for Q&A and one for the company owners. It's always on because I can't always see them and they will interject comments throughout the conference and the Dugan is critical for that. I've tried using the Primary Source Expander plug in but I haven't dialed it in to work better than the Dugan. The M32R has an auto mix feature on the first 8 channels only. I use it often but when I need more than 8 I'll use Superrack and the Dugan.
Please measure your latency with actual measurement software such as smaart. I guarantee you it’s more than 5ms. Each A/d conversion will be .3-5ms so that’s .3-5ms input then .3-5ms output. Than the buffer size of the software adds latency. Between .5 - 5ms. It’s very important to measure calculate and adjust other inputs to be aligned at the master buss. If we could do this at below 5ms latency waves wouldn’t need to sell superrack server.
Latency wasn't a concern at all for this event. I was forced to use the hotel's AV and this allowed me to control lav mics through their ceiling speakers. The results would have been terrible with only the board's High/Mid/Low EQ.
Very interesting, it is rare to find this type of content, I like it when with the little you can have, you can do something. Thank you.
I may have to try this out. Right now i have to use a sub group for analog compression and eq. With the 404 i can use the analog stuff for FOH and run the 4 channels i want to process, independently, and free up my sub group and 4 other channels on the board.
It would cost me less than buying a modern digital mixer and i could keep the setup i have until i decide if i like the digital route, if not, just simply pull 4 plugs and press 4 buttons and im back to analog.
Good stuff. The Behringer UMC latency is pretty good. Super low latency.
I’ve been searching for how to accomplish this setup years ago and ended up trying it myself 😅 ; which worked.
Great content!! It’s exciting to see someone else actually doing it!
Awesome! Thank you!
please I don't get how it sends back into the mixer...please
Great video. Thanks.
I don't understand how you "insert" something into the same channel. Is there a "pick point" on the channel so the board knows where to pass the signal? A quick "how to" would help. Thank you for sharing!
In this example, the Mackie analog mixer has 1/4in insert jacks on the mic channels. The insert cable goes there on the mixer. The send and return ends go to the interface.
with this setup, does the waves plugin only work on a single-channel or am I able to configure plugins on multiple channels?
In my example, the Mackie mixer had channel inserts on the back of the board for ch 1 through 6. My interface had 4 inputs so I was using 4 channels on the mixer, 4 channels on my interface, and so 4 channels of Waves Superrack. Each Superrack channel can have multiple plug-ins. These Superrack channels can be copy/pasted to each other to do the same thing or can be completely separate. I was in a corporate setting using wireless mics for speech. But it could have been computer audio or instruments on the mixer channels going to/from Waves Superrack.
Thank you Scott! That was exactly what I was wanting to know. Very helpful and cool idea.
Another question: Do you have any issues with latency coming back from the laptop? I'm assuming it's low enough that it's not noticeable.
Thanks again and here's to a wonderful, gig filled 2023!!🎊🎊🎊
Near zero latency. Their EMO High-Pass, PEQ, Compressor that I showed have zero latency. Each channel will show it's latency. With the Dugan automix, the EMO plugins and the GEQ the channel showed a latency of 3. It depends what you add to the channel.
Thanks for the tutorial, is it the same as super rack performer
Yes, I use Superrack Performer, thanks!
Why not connect the mic/instruments directly to the i/o?
I believe you could do that and it would work just fine. My thinking was to use Superrack as an insert (inserting it into the analog board channel). But your description should also work the same. Thanks for helping with a new way to look at this!
Hello sir ,how to superrack performor free install login installation process .not for trial pack
Question: Can you recommend an interface that would handle 12 channels? I have an Allen & Heath Qu-24 that I'm using the first 12 for FOH. There's a USB-B connector on it, but it's only output OR input, not 2-way. So I'm looking at your setup and would really like to try this if I can find an interface for 12 channels to connect the laptop and use SuperRack Performer on that.
In my example, I'm using the interface as an insert into the analog board. BUT what I could have done, and you could do this, is have the mic XLR go into the interface, get processed by the computer plug-ins, then go out of the interface into a mixer channel input (probably a line input from the interface). I haven't tried this yet but I've seen some small analog boards without inserts. I would have the mic XLR go into the interface, process with plug-ins, then 1/4" cable out to 1/4" cable into a line input on the mixer. You would need to try this with a 12ch interface. This way you aren't using any mixer USB, you would have freedom to use channel inputs. The only USB should be the interface to the computer. Has anyone else tried this?
@@DallasSoundGuys On the Qu mixers, there are ¼" TRS insert jacks on each channel, so I should be able to do what you did in the video. I just need to find an interface with enough channels. Right now I can only use the built-in processing in the mixer, which just isn't adequate. We got it new in 2015. It's ancient compared with today's standards.
In my example with a Mackie analog mixer, I used the channel inserts, as you are looking to do. My 4ch interface worked great. I would expect the same from a higher channel count interface. I see Behringer has an 8ch interface but that's not enough for you. I've used mine a few times as I've shown and even used it once as an emergency basic mixer, when an extra room was added to an event.
you really aren't going to find one at a good cost. you will find 4 outputs or something. For your scenario of 12 channels of inserts going to an interface and then returning that is a lot of hoops to jump through. Time for a console upgrade for music at least. I've used the QU16 for corporate and it has all the basics built-in. The video shows how to do it with 2-4 mics on an analog console and a small interface that has 4 OUTPUTS.
@@DallasSoundGuysI am going to try this out using protools for a show where we will setup sound. Just on the vocal mic and maybe for bass compression
I don't get how the sound gets from the UMC to the speaker...
How do I set this up if I have a basic analog setup with Mixer, graphic EQs and amplifiers?
But I want to run some plugins just for a vocal channel...how does the signal get back into the Mixer to feed it into the FOH...all analog though
Great question. Set up your analog board like normal with mics, speakers, etc. That doesn't change. Then insert the interface using the channel inserts on the back of the Mackie board. Use it like you would any external inserted piece of hardware.
@@DallasSoundGuys Thanks so much. Greatly appreciate...
thank you but i have one question how i can do this to all the channels with one laptop ? it's like i need to use one laptop with every channel but i want to use on all my channels, sorry for my english i'm french
The software allows multiple channels. The interface connects between the mixer and the laptop. In my example I was able to control 4 channels, the software can do 32 channels
@@DallasSoundGuys oki i get it thank you very much
Is it possible to connect it to the Yamaha mgp32 console without audio interface?
In my example with a mackie analog mixer, the interface was just so that I could somehow insert Waves Superrack into the mixer channels. I have a Yamaha DM3 digital mixer and the new 2.0 software allows the USB-C cable on the back to work as inserts on up to 18 channels. I can connect a USB from my DM3 mixer to my computer and Waves Superrack sees the mixer. I'm able to use Superrack without an interface in that instance because the DM3 is the interface as well as the mixer. Many analog mixers need the interface as a way to insert Superrack into their analog mixer channels.
@@DallasSoundGuys ok thanks for your reply ✌🏻
How you power your interface by using usb cable?
Yes, the USB cable powers the interface.
Bringing all of that vs bringing a small digital console. Lots of points of failure. Cost? Mackie provided by hotel, your owned laptop & audio interface & 1/4” TS to 1/4” TS insert cables. It is a great solution but a somewhat unelegant setup. I can see this great for solo or duo musicians on a small gig with owned equipment. They can have presets of FX chains for a setlist.
I agree that a digital mixer would be the best solution. In another video I show one of my most used pieces of equipment with a flyable X32 Rack and 4ch of Axient Digital RF. I would have brought that in if I was allowed to. My solution was to insert SuperRack into what was set up by the hotel. For years I brought full production to this event. When the client signed a new 3 year contract with the venue the hotel wanted the AV money and forced the client to use the hotel AV. No more outside production companies can provide AV. We were allowed to still come in and operate the event but it had to be the hotel provided AV. Thanks for the idea, I agree with you on this!
If it’s up to me I would also my own gear from home but sometimes when I freelance for other companies it’s not allowed. We are forced to use their gear or the hotels so this is the next best thing.
@@DallasSoundGuys This is a fantastic solution to being pigeonholed into something by higher up Financial decision. Nice work making it happen and still using their analog mixer. It would be even funnier if you use the DAW digital mixer in your laptop and right of the main ounce into their analog mixer
Can we connect multi track mixer analog mixer to the native
I haven't but as long as your DAW sees the interface (the Behringer unit or whatever brand you use) as your DAW IO, then I would think you could record multitrack this way. Since the Behringer is converting the signal to digital and sending it to the laptop, you might be able to also send that to record as a multitrack in a DAW. Dante could possibly be another way to capture channels from your Mixer and send them into your DAW. Thanks!
@@DallasSoundGuys can u try with the anelog mixer (multitrack)
Or
Sq 7 without the io card can be used with the USB port
Is this how ppl get their broadcast sounding really good
Hello thank you for video! Will latency be too much for live vocal performances? I would like to send to stage monitors, preferably some reverb and voice correction, and a de-esser, or would this cause too much latency? I have a M1 macbook and only three singers on stage. Im one of the singers and have to control the board on stage.
A lot of people use this for their singers through the main PA, the latency might be noticed in a monitor, I don't think it would work with in ear monitors. It might work with stage monitors but I haven't tried. Anyone else reading this have experience using this with floor monitors? Thanks everyone!
@@DallasSoundGuys thank you!
What about round trip latency?
Latency from the software is near zero. The eMo plug-ins I used have zero latency (high-pass filter / PEQ / Compressor). Some plug-ins available have zero, moderate or noticeable latency. Superrack has Latency Groups so align signals at the output of the software. I hope this helps, thanks!
@@DallasSoundGuys Thanks for the reply! It does help to know that those are "zero latency plugins" I have the eMo plugs as well, but haven't had time to investigate them (they came in a bundle).
However to my understanding, that's zero Plug-In Latency within the DAW or plugin host, SuperRack in this case.
Round-Trip Latency is to do with the Interface and going from A-to-D, processing, then D-back-to-A.
In the studio setting, for example, most interfaces built-in a 'direct mixer' function or whatever they call it to go from the inputs directly to the artist headphone outs. The reason is that there's too much latency to go from Interface Mic Pre -> A-D/DAW -> D-A Interface Headphone Amp. The lag is too much for the artist's performance. So you effectively Overdub and bring a mix back from the DAW blended with the direct Mic into the headphone amp.
Universal Audio's claim to fame is onboard DSP allowing the use of plugins in "real-time" without actually going through the DAW. But even that realtime isn't realtime or true zero-latency, but it's low enough to Not interfere with the performance.
I also have a Presonus Quantum interface that, rather than using DSP and a dedicated Side-Car/Console app to your DAW (or locking you into using Only their plugins) the Quantum series boasted a Thunderbolt connection with No in-between software just direct access to your DAW. And at 24-bit/192khz it claims 0.91ms Rountrip Latency.
So less than 1ms interface latency may as well feel like real-time on an analog insert, but I can't see that Behringer Not feeling like a big delay if you were to say: Talk into the mic plugged into the board, with headphones also plugged into that board. Then plug and unplug that insert jack and see if you hear yourself on an unintentional slapback?
If it Really is latency free, or even latency negligible, then AMAZING. That would mean that SuperRack really is super at doing what DAWs can't.
Last thought: For live use I could get away with a lot more latency than in the studio. Plus you can always do monitor mixes off the Analog board and process what goes to the Main Mix (as we've always done since Tape Machines had the same delay problem between the record and playback heads).
@@G_handle Use case is going to play a big factor into your question then. For me, I run a lot of corporate sound. In my testimony given my client was forced to use the in house AV, or pay a heavy fine to let me bring my own gear as I had in the past. I could have used their Mackie board with built in EQ and be done with it but I had my interface with me and it gave me the control I needed. The distance from the ceiling speakers to the guests was far greater a factor than any latency I might have introduced. That was just my example. I wasn't running a band with in-ears in this example to make SuperRack potentially unusable. Thanks!
@@DallasSoundGuys Again thanks for the reply!
Gotcha, Yes I agree if no one is direct monitoring then the latency from the nearest Monitor is 1ms per foot, far more than the RT & Plugin latency combined. I too do a fair bit of Corporate Audio. And Video! Which makes me wonder if there might be sync issues with the Video switcher?
The only other thought is that if say you had a panel on stage with multiple mics open. Already that's a phase challenge in straight analog. Feeding the inserts to a Waves/Dan Dugan would be great option and in that case All of the mics would be routed through, so incur the same latency. But if you had two or more open mics, and you processed one and not the others, that latency once mixed would cause phase cancellations as well as the timing delays, would it not?
Again a way around that is to have all the channels with open mics going through the same route.
A lot to think about, I have a ton of gear to play with (though not SuperRack) so thanks for the inspiration.
Two Asides:
1) I've long used and recommend using an additional (old) computer and interface for Effects sends in the studio. (Putting Convolution Reverbs and Delays on their own computer and CPU away from the DAW machine at 192 Oversampling ETC, maximum quality because that's the only thing running. And the Latency doesn't matter because they're time-based effects, so you tune the timing to ear anyways.)
2) What is that laptop stand? Lol. It looks pretty clean. How stable is it and do you recommend it?
Thanks again!
@@G_handle www.amazon.com/gp/product/B08KZTBPH8/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o09_s00?ie=UTF8&th=1
That's the stand, I got it two years ago. It takes more effort than I expected to open it and close it, so I have no fear of it moving at all during use. The taller you go though, the more the base is in front and the top is behind the center of gravity, then it would be tippy? I don't go that high, and/or I have something below that laptop to add some weight to the base.
I have a Blackmagic Design 2M/E Constellation for video. I don't run the audio through that, I use my M32R or similar most often. I'll have to put a video together on the switcher soon!
I also have an annual event coming up where I use 12-14 wireless mics. (Usually no more than 5 at a time, someone is always being mic'd up or taking mics from them while the next people are already presenting). I do have the Dugan in Superrack for that. 4 of the wireless are handheld. 3 for Q&A and one for the company owners. It's always on because I can't always see them and they will interject comments throughout the conference and the Dugan is critical for that. I've tried using the Primary Source Expander plug in but I haven't dialed it in to work better than the Dugan.
The M32R has an auto mix feature on the first 8 channels only. I use it often but when I need more than 8 I'll use Superrack and the Dugan.
This is good stuff.
I hear the reverb but did not hear everything else
It was a corporate event with keynote presenters speaking on lav mics. No reverb added. Just EQ and compression that the analog board doesn’t offer.
superrack $100 or $600 version ?
The $600 version was the only one available the last few years I've had this.
Please measure your latency with actual measurement software such as smaart. I guarantee you it’s more than 5ms. Each A/d conversion will be .3-5ms so that’s .3-5ms input then .3-5ms output. Than the buffer size of the software adds latency. Between .5 - 5ms. It’s very important to measure calculate and adjust other inputs to be aligned at the master buss.
If we could do this at below 5ms latency waves wouldn’t need to sell superrack server.
Latency wasn't a concern at all for this event. I was forced to use the hotel's AV and this allowed me to control lav mics through their ceiling speakers. The results would have been terrible with only the board's High/Mid/Low EQ.