Embankment Station Contrasts 1990 - 2014 Part1
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- Опубліковано 8 лют 2025
- Filmed December 1990 this film includes:
1959 tube stock
1972 Mk1 and Mk2 tube stocks (the former in a special livery)
C69/77 stock
D78 stock
platform views
the 'Mind The Gap' announcement
and more!
Ahh the northern line 'mind the gap' announcement was a proper childhood memory. So happy that the announcement is still there today😌😚
I love the sound of the bakerloo line trains as they're waiting on the platform.
The 1972mk2s were on the Jubilee and Northern lines before finally transferring to the Bakerloo line in the late 1980s
Love your content! It’s nice to see what it was like in the 90s.
Your videos are the best, city transport info.
Bakerloo 72 mk2 has always been my favorite tube stock!
I used to travel to school on the Northern line Mk1 trains!
The 1972mk2 is still on the Bakerloo line today
@@CitytransportInfoplus and a few mk1s are now half units on the Bakerloo line
wow the 1959 and 1972MKI serving the Northern line at the same time back then. They were part of my childhood. The MKII and a few converted MKIs still on the Bakerloo line to this day.
talking of childhood, I was a schoolboy when the 1972 tube stock trains were introduced.
I love that section of Embankment where one can easily get lost (the part underneath the C&D lines but above the Bakerloo & Northern. I remember seeing what looked like it could have been a closed entrance/exit staircase or something lol.
Ah, the blue doors 72 stock I think was 3227. It went to South Harrow for a bit because it failed on it's last run. I have no idea why it was kept, and the other half of the train 3518 was scrapped instantly. I wouldn't mind that livery it actually looks nice.
2:23 Loving some of the transitions in the video. Reminds me of The Day Today!
5:06 a bit of history, interesting to see a guard on the tube, they checked the platform and controlled the doors.
I remember in 1996 on a Southwest Train to Alton the guards hanging out of the doors... I was young and you could open the windows in those days, I used to like to look out and look at the freight carriages
Yes, guards were gradually phased out across the system, line by line. The 1967 Stock on the Victoria Line never had them. Stocks such as the 1972 Stock , C Stock and A Stock were converted to run without guards, and older stock such as 1959 Stock ran with them until they were withdrawn from service.
3:50 Advert for Home Alone in the foreground.
That livery of the tube train in the depot actually looks alright
Bakerloo trains are so hot in the summer. Just an observation as it's not a line I use very often, but the heat is noticeable when I do.
8:33 you were lucky if you got anything out of those chocolate machines with the pull-drawers
hmmm, yes well sometimes the next bar did not move down the chute after a purchase - so that an empty drawer would open ... also, you had to look and check that there was something in that chute (ie: not 'sold out') before opening a drawer, as otherwise you would have bought some fresh air (yet again)!
Both the 1972 mk2 and mk1 are 7 car crew operated versions of the 1967 stock.
Most of the 1972mk1 have since been withdrawn from the Northern line, although a select few have been reconfigured to driver only operation and refurbished, operating on the Bakerloo line.
1972mk2 make up most of the Bakerloo line fleet. They transferred over from the Jubilee line in the late 1980s.
Some of the 72mk1 are working the Bakerloo line today.
Yes but only a few
citytransportinfo understand now why TfL only did a few mk1s. Expensive to convert to driver operation only and to refurb to mk2 standard.
Oludotun John Showemimo The 72 mk2 was built with driver only operation in mind and was easily switched, hence in the 80s, the mk2s were withdrawn from other lines and concentrated on the bakerloo whereas the mk1 was designed solely for crew operation and conversion was more of a task and remained on the Northern until it’s withdrawal. Some mk1 cars were also used on the Victoria line to bolster the 67 ATO stock.
So sad to see it change :(
0:39 nowadays Bakerloo Line trains absolutely crawl into platforms :S
Yep. Slowly compared to before as they are so slow
@@Great_WesternTVFan Probably just tighter speed restrictions cos it's still the 1972's running on it
These contrasts don't seem to be as extreme as the Bank contrasts you did previously for the deep level tubes. The Central and Northern lines used to look absolutely terrible in contrast to these.
Svartmetall Sverige! This station was partially rebuilt many years earlier so the contrasts are more of trains and types of train than in the station itself. However, I understand that some changes were made when the escalators were replaced in the middles of 2014, I am yet to go there and see for myself. Probably I will do this around Christmas 2014.
Nice 'Home Alone' posters everywhere and at 04:55 - poster for the film 'Ghost'.
I got lost there!! (in the summer of '05)... One thing I noticed is all of the trash cans on the platforms. When I was over I think most of them had been cleared away??
Why do I prefer all the old unpainted liveries, grafity stained trains and smelly run down platforms compared to all the polish and bright lighting now? All logic says I shouldn't but travelling underground seemed more of an experience in them days. Some people say it's just nostalgia but it's more than that.
Its not a question of preferring; its about nostalgia for those old enough to remember trains in that format and curiosity by people too young to have experienced trains in that format
I was born in July 1974 when there were Underground trains from before WW2, so I totally agree with you; the modernised Underground doesn't appeal to me at all.
Sorry there is simply nothing attractive or pleasing about graffiti, drugs or other criminal items in an underground network essential to millions of travellers. I am all for keeping things original & stylish but only if they are properly maintained & looked after and never allowed to deteriorate to such brutal conditions.
those red and white chocolate machines with the draws.................
they never worked did they?
alright once then
LOL... they were very good at taking your money; its just that sometimes they did not supply any chocolate!
It should have been so simple, all you had to do was pull out one of the draws and there would be a bar of chocolate... but sometimes the drawer would be stuck / would not open and other times the drawer did open but would be empty! (the 'next' chocolate bar had not automatically lowered after the previous bottom bar had been sold)
The fronts of each row of chocolate was glass, so that it was possible to see whether there any left in that selection row.
There was a phone number to contact, the area code was for was somewhere in Loughton, Essex.
@@CitytransportInfoplus LOL!!!
I preferred the next generation machines with the digital number pad...push the buttons in the right order and they could start hemorrhaging chocolate bars!!
If only i could be alive then to experience london in the 90s
I'd like to experience London (and its transports) in every decade 1900 - 1939!
Also visit Liverpool with its overhead railway and the third rail electric trains in Tyneside (all now history)
@@CitytransportInfoplus thanks! Was it the red tube stock that got you?
The Underground looked even better in the 70's and 80's.
Check the no smoking signs in the full colour red roundel. I believe the bakerloo and piccadilly lines were the only stock ever to display these. Used to remind me of a datsun car lol.
I know the signs you mean but did not realise that they were only used on two lines. Were they not also on 1992 Mk2 stock trains on the Jubilee line?
oh dear..... Some D78 Stocks are being withdrawn from the Underground to services in British Rail...................
+ADAM MARS
Not certain yet! It may yet be that the various authorities do not allow them to be used on the mainline network outside of London. It is very much a case of "watching what happens".
There is still one 5 car D78 stock on the Metropolitan line as the new Rail Adhesion train, which took over the A60 5 car tube stock.
But why it's not joining the others and rotting to its demise at the Piccadilly line?
But how comes that Embankment underground station and Charing Cross station are so close to each other. Just like Bank & Monument and Kings Cross St. Pancras underground stations.
Just looking at those flood barriers, how are they meant to work?
Hmm, I'm not really sure - I assume that a metal barrier rolls down from the top.
Out of interest when did the first refurbished 1972 MK 2 enter service?
MrGriser sorry but I do not know the exact date, but I think it was circa 1999 / 2000.
citytransportinfo I thought the 1972 tube stock started much earlier than that because I read that the refurbishment was completed in April 1995
Are all 1972 stock trains in the Bakerloo Line
Nowadays yes, only the Bakerloo Line uses 1972 Stock.
There is one train on the Aldwych branch which can be used by film companies, for instance in feature films or in adverts.
+citytransportinfo Am I right in thinking the Aldwych Unit is a Mk1? I think it's from the Northern Line.
Yes Bakerloo line only uses 1972 mk2 along with a few mk1 ex Northern line converts. They were recently given life extension upgrade to keep them in service for longer.
5:24 does that door stay open the whole time or just in station?
RIP Billy Conforto
8:57 WTF thats a bird
yeah, sometimes birds get in, not too unusual, though I've always wondered what happens to them in the end, as there's no food down in the tunnels
@@karlosbricks2413 there are, the garbage bags have left over food sometimes.
This was not filmed in the 90's..
PoliceAndTheTube I am curious, why do you say this?
The station signs for the District and Circle and the Arrival/Departure board.
PoliceAndTheTube Dot Matrix signs did exist in the 1990's. I only bought my first camcorder in December 1989, so this footage could not have come from any earlier than that!
Eh... I guess you have a point.
Only the Northern line's 1959 and 1972mk1 fleets had the guard control panels at the driving motors
also 1938 tube stock, 1973 tube stock, and more!
@@CitytransportInfoplus the 1973 was converted to driver only operation later on among many others.
Weren't there any trains in LUL corporate livery by December 1990?
I thought that apart from the trains which were in the three different experimental liveries they were only painted in corporate livery when refurbished. Of the trains seen in this film only the 1972 Mk2 trains were refurbished - the Mk1's were scrapped in original condition (except for thiose which were converted for the Victoria Line and Bakerloo Line - but these were also refurbished).
the C stock prototype?
I meant in LUL corporate livery I'm suppose the refurbishment of the C stock had just started that year but do you know how long the C stock prototype cars 5585/6585 lasted for in that livery I know they entered service on the day I was born November 22nd 1989 :)
Daniel Woodhouse
I recall seeing several C stock prototypes, especially with respect of internal changes / seating design.
I've only filmed the external prototype livery which involved red ends, white sides and blue stripes at window level.
As of March 2014 none of my films showing the experimental livery or inside prototype refurbished C stock trains has arrived on UA-cam. It will appear in the C stock compilation; contrasts films showing trains on the Wimbledon Branch (first though I need to film S Stock trains at the same locations) and the Upminster Depot Open Days films (two open days 25 and 50 years after the depot opened). Internal views of C Stock trains in original and refurbished livery also appear in the "S Stock variations / contrasts / historical placement" film that will be online early March 2014 - immediately after the "Embankment Station Contrasts part 2" film.
citytransportinfo
further to my previoius comments, it seems that C stock trains only started being refurbished in 1991, so it is correct that none are seen in the revised format in this film, which was only shows 1990 footage.
Why in those times at were the trains in White and Red but 2005-2017 why are they in Red White and Blue
the red and white trains are actually unpainted aluminium plus red fronts for colour relief. This changed to painted red white blue because they wanted a new corporate livery and also because painting the trains masked graffiti vandalism which was very difficult to completely remove from unpainted trains without leaving any tale-tale marks. As it happens, the new livery was compliant with a later change in the law which required that train doors be painted in a way that makes them stand out and therefore easier for people without perfect vision to see.
Nice to c my faivourites
Embankmant Station = Fulton Street Station of the NYC Subway?? Seems like you can walk for miles in that place..
8:58. How did the pigeon get there???
Kieran Hughes probably by train - and without having bought a ticket for its journey!
Ha ha. That happens a lot on the underground!
I know. And they don't even get fined for it!
Nope
Londona729 Very true!
DezzaManezza154 these days there’s a thing called reply
Back when I posted that comment, there wasn't a "Reply" button - I'm not a thicko dude
Where on earth did you get this video
I filmed it, using my own camcoder!
Wow
À noter que les parois en tôle vitrifiée des quais de la station ont un air de famille avec les revêtements des stations du métro de Marseille. Il en est de même pour Holborn et pour Euston Northern Line via Charing Cross.
et / and Tyne & Wear Metro!
0:42 1906!!
Glad to see that you managed to get one of my favorite underground posters in your video! (goo.gl/a4ZKwL) I remember the buttons on the D Stock until they were updated recently!
home alone movie poster!! 3:50
smile! I saw that.... loved it!
Mind the gap.
Df