It won't work. Mario Maker 2 is going to be loaded with garbage. Even more so than the original due to the Switch's wider appeal. I wish Nintendo gave a damn about the huge problems with discovery and filtering.
stuntaneous That’s what the yay and boo buttons are for. There’s just way too much to not need the community’s help with weeding out the bad ones while remaining fair.
@@TheBadElf Hey man. At least from a viewer standpoint, Troll Levels are hilarious. Other than Ceave, CarlSagan42 is the only Mario Maker content creator I'm subbed to.
This video actually has great advice for level design in general, it's always a good idea to let players know of a particular hazard or be able to mess around with central mechanics in a safe environment before progressing towards a more challenging area.
That would be great since this was just for traditional levels. For example, he could make a basic tutorial of all the ways to make timers and camera position and all that stuff he does in his challenge vids and put them in a single vid, along with the many other types of levels.
@@steel5897 true, but still if someone finds himself wanting to create something different with a well made guide he will not have the absolute truth but the level could suck less, or maybe even be decent.
@@dallinrichardson284 You can't make a DK level from Mario Maker assets. However, I agreed that Dk levels are the best because of its unlimited gimmicks.
@@catowong1387well, yeah. I was just making a comment that I personally prefer how the DK games handle platforming more than the Mario games. They're both good.
@Mind Control Experiments I think you just need to be able to advertise it more, it needs to reach more people. Back in the original Mario maker days I also made traditional levels, but it didnt get that popular because MM was coming to an end (2018). It didnt reach anyone because nobody was on. Just dont spam level IDs everywhere, that can just make it worse and is annoying to some people.
0:00 Yes, that is how the world began. Wait, were you talking about Mario Maker? Very good explanation of excellent level design! I thoroughly enjoyed it!
There'll be interactive tutorials in the game itself made by a veteran level designer on Mario levels, so even if they don't see this video, they'll be helped
just saying the third time I playtest my stages I will temporarily change to the ghost house night theme because that should remove all muscle memory I build while making the stage
This is one of the best and maybe the most important videos you have ever made Ceave! Thumbs up! It seems so important to me that I even made German Subtitles (it took a few hours to translate...) so that more people can learn from the video. I edited the subtitles and now you just need to accept them before they can go online. Edit: Thank you for accepting them ;)
I once actually made a level like this. It took me hours to clear, and it was deleted by Nintendo because of lack of stars weeks later. It’s still my favorite stage that I ever built.
Maybe pick-a-paths could be allowed if there's clues about the right answer around the stage and/or they don't immediately lead to an unfair death, though.
Jake Hudson: Stuff that you are trying to reach or that can impede your progress. If you want a player to jump to a certain platform to progress, make sure they can actually see that platform. If they can't, then they won't know where to go. Likewise, if you want a player to have to avoid a thwomp, make sure they can see the thwomp. Otherwise, they won't know to look out for it. Since secrets are supposed to be hidden, it's okay to put them offscreen. But it's good have some sort of indication that a secret is there. A hole in the ceiling, a far-off platform, a trail of coins, etc. would all be good ways to guide observant players to offscreen secrets.
I think pick-a-path levels would be okay if the wrong paths didn't immediately kill the player and there was a way to get back to the choices. Unfortunately most people just add death boxes and/or softlocks to all the wrong paths, which only leads to frustration.
@@iamjohnporter67 Troll levels are actually really fun to try and outsmart, but it is annoying when you get trolled out of nowhere in a level that wasn’t meant to be a troll level.
8:20 To go along with this point, Red Hot Elevator Ride starts Mario in a small room where the lava begins to rise. It's not that hard to escape the lava and reach the pipe, but this room is useful for showing that rising lava will be a prominent feature in the rest of the level. Then, we enter the room with the hot and presumably red elevator. As there is no other platform in the area, we hop onto the device and get a quick explanation of how the elevator works (by tilting the controller). We're now given a small space to figure out how to handle the controls before moving on the the hazards. It's a simple concept, but it's rather effective at conveying level mechanics. Because of this, little introduction segments like these are strongly recommended to keep the player in the know.
Here something else that I think is really iconic to traditional stages: Add a progressive Power-Up at the beginning of the Level. To get to the Power-Up use the Core Element of the stage while not being in Danger. The progressive Power-Up should also be based around the Background, Elements and Theme.
I was actually going to start my own platformer game, and this video will definitely help! The tip about speedrunning is really going to help because I want to make a focus on levels that are fun to speedrun but can be played through casually perfectly fine. Thank you in advance!
Just saying, this actually REALLY helped me. I wouldn't consider myself a good creator, and I was always unsure how to build my levels. I am more of a traditional level kind of guy, so I am certainly glad that this video came out. Thanks!
I just want to say that ceave makes genuine non stop bangers with his content. They are educational, entertaining, and comfortable, with great editing and scripts as well. He is definitely one of the most underrated creators on youtube. Keep it up ceave ❤
Hey Ceave, around 9:30 you are showing the viewers the idea that it is useful to introduce your design choices in a level first before letting the player encounter them. This is a fundamental key-element for building a level in my opinion but the thing why I am writing this comment is that the bullet blasters aren’t really introduced to the player here. Due to the symmetrical design and the fact that the player is never able to actually touch them or die to them, they have more like an aesthetic reason to them. They don’t really get recognized as an “enemy” more than just some decoration because they are never in reach of the players doings. Also, I don’t think it’s preferable to introduce more than 1 idea at once and you are actually (after removing the fire ball) introducing 2/3 here. The Flame Throwers above, the bullet blasters(maybe) and the platform on tracks! For me, I prefer more simpler designs. One aspect of the level on one screen at the time. I don’t say it’s bad(!!) but I love your videos, always watching all of them, so I thought I could maybe leave some of my input. Have a good one!
Oh wow, you're really good at this. It's obvious you know a lot about what makes Mario levels good, as well as how to design a good one. I'm excited to play your levels in Mario Maker 2!
The fact that that there are always going to be a lot of “trash” levels, especially considering there will be a lot more people playing, and therefore making levels in mario maker 2
@@SussySupcon I sadly can't play it but I can only recommend that you make it fair and not with very cheap/stupid deaths. I wish you luck in future level creations
16:48 It is possible to approach it pretty accurately, you just need to give Mario a 1/5 chance of dropping on top of the goal, and 4/5 chance of dying. Before that, TONS of springs because the randomizer's seed will always be the same.
8:14 I object! Teaching Elements and Self Explanation don't always work. Sometimes there has to be a point where you have to react without learning. Take the very first Goomba for example. It was not a teaching element and it worked.
Please make more of these covering other kinds of levels, like speedruns and kaizos. This is a very high-quality and in-depth tutorial, and I would love to see more like it.
13:25 That's how you're meant to do that!?! I've been doing it the difficult way which is eating the top ones, freezing the bottom ones, and then jumping on them! And sometimes when I accidentally eat the piranha plant, I have to jump on them without ice!
I've been playing and streaming viewer level critiques for about 5 years now and I've recommended this video a thousand times, but coming back to it now even with thousands of hours in mario maker it's still such good information to hear again, and covers so many things that are so, so important in basic level design. I miss all these great MM videos!
@@albond thx for making everyones lives so much better by pointing out a pointless mistake that could've easily just been a typo, wow ur so much smarter then everyone else
@@lukeanderson6999 Yeah, because you definitely need to graduate from Oxford to know the difference between "your" and "you're". That's literally primary school grammar. I actually don't know how people get it wrong 🤦♂️
Thank you ceave, I’m not using this to make super Mario makerlevels but my own platformer game this video is required for every person who is making platformer levels
Great video! It really opened up my eyes to the importance of breathing room in between challenges. Some of my level don't have any. Some on purpose because they are meant to be really hard, but some are just suppose to be of medium difficulty. So stoke for MM2!
We seriously need more videos like this that explain how to do a good level that isn't build around cheap deaths and challenges that are just not fun. Please do more!
Really good overall info not only about how to make better Mario Maker 1 and 2 levels, but also how the official levels are structured. Thank you for this, makes me crave making good levels in MM2 :)
Things I want in mario maker 2. -Mini mushroom with mini pipes -in the underworld section one of those secret flags that are in the new super Mario bros series -World maps for people who wanna make their own version of the game -Tower style, Rocky Mountains style, volcano style, beach style -Mushrooms that move up and down -The outside of the ghost house when you finish the level -Be able to make enemy’s giant -Ice flower and penguin suit -Those walls you can go through to a secret pipe or starcoin -StarCoins -Giant icesicles -In the castle not always end with that bridge and boss fights where as soon as you kill the boss you win the level -Those blue castle styles in new super Mario bros DS -More bosses such as the giant goomba, mole in tank, koopalings, lightning cloud guy and dry bowser -Water Caves style -Sewer Style -P switch’s that create coins or make water rise I hope some of these are added
Great video! I really appreciate that you show examples of issues in your example stage and how to fix them. If I may, I'd like to add that I feel like challenges and breather spaces are also defined by their PENALTIES FOR FAILURE and their REWARDS FOR SUCCESS. For failing to make a jump, solve a puzzle, etc. there's a variety of different consequences you can execute in SMM: Lose time (standard fail a jump, so you're back on the ground and have to jump again) Miss a missable bonus area (say you had to make a jump on a paratroopa perfectly to get to an optional room) Miss a collectable (if you've got a bunch of Miss a powerup (block is positioned so a powerup falls into the abyss if not grabbed in time) Take damage (any sort of enemy or projectile hits you) Lose a life (Bottomless pit, crushing) Whereas completing a section gives us various rewards: Make progress towards level completion Gain a collectable Gain a powerup Find a bonus area It's the contrast and severity of these that seems to separate the breathing spaces from the challenge spaces!
@@drummerboy0620 I work for a company called SavySoda. Our flagship game is called Pixel Starships. It's a space strategy mobile game. If it sounds like you're thing, check it out and let me know what you think :) It's a small team, but great people! We have a few million downloads, and a pretty massive player base now!
I personally struggle with pacing my levels because even though I've played so many platformers, I never quite understood what made the pacing good. I tried this approach in a recent MM2 level, and it gained some attention rather quickly! Someone even commented that it was "finally a good water level" and I felt so proud of it. I want to personally thank you for giving me some insight into how levels are made and paced, you've helped me get my Mario making back in shape!
Not only can these things be applied to Mario Maker, they can be applied to almost any media creation. For example, at one point in the video there is an inside joke that is quickly on screen, and this is like one of those extra challenges in Mario Maker. Things like these make all media much more fun to consume :D
Thank you for doing this! I felt the pain of being one of few good makers at the game's start 8 year olds who spam bowsers and chain chomp throwing lakitus dont deserve to upload levels
Sometime I like to just mess around in the editor and see what Comes out of it, but I'm Always grateful for people who put the time in to try and educate people on actual good Level design, so thx Ceave :)
10:53 "And then, it's time for the checkpoint."
~Skips checkpoint~
20:00
I subbed to yu
@@ZaerayaMusic yay
@@robinberger208 he jumped over the checkpoint in the footage
The footage is from a small% casual run
2:39 that was an insane jump.
Hats off to you, sir! :)
can't believe I've missed that
Wow!
He got skilz
Nice
I like when we get to see his platforming skills in conjunction with his big-brain level making skills. Get you a man who does both
this video is simply a long term plan to increase the overall quality of mario maker 2 levels
Maxwell Van Gulik ty
It won't work. Mario Maker 2 is going to be loaded with garbage. Even more so than the original due to the Switch's wider appeal. I wish Nintendo gave a damn about the huge problems with discovery and filtering.
just play the good levels then lol
stuntaneous That’s what the yay and boo buttons are for. There’s just way too much to not need the community’s help with weeding out the bad ones while remaining fair.
@@TheBadElf Hey man. At least from a viewer standpoint, Troll Levels are hilarious. Other than Ceave, CarlSagan42 is the only Mario Maker content creator I'm subbed to.
14:04 i love that ceeve even after his video’s still hates coins and calls them disgusting.
It is absolutely hillbilly and honestly is great.
I said hillbilly instead of hilarious...........................Brain broke
Idk if I should be laughing at “it is absolutely hillbilly” or not.
ceeve
c *e e v e e*
Congratulations you had a stroke
"a walking sign post saying this stage features dead skeleton turtles" -ceave 2019
red and pig radio shows i subbed t you
@@ZaerayaMusic thanks
Animals were hurt in the making of this level
Arnoud H - they were already dead
9:02
This video actually has great advice for level design in general, it's always a good idea to let players know of a particular hazard or be able to mess around with central mechanics in a safe environment before progressing towards a more challenging area.
This video was EXTREMELY helpful. I cannot wait to creat traditional levels in Mario maker 2.
Sadly these will probably not get a lot of attention as a lot of people don't like these levels. At least that's how it felt in SMM1.
@@hr9467 At least now we can search for traditional levels using the tag :)
Did you know the game is going to feature a "Dojo" section with all kinds of little lessons like this? I'm super excited for it!
@@albond Yeah that's very cool :)
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This should be required viewing before anyone can upload a level.
And play the story
What if someone made the best designed level in Mario Maker
Honestly, I think the learning of creating levels is one of the most fun parts of the game
There's just too many levels. It's our job to review and rate the levels ourselves
Do you really think some 7-14 y/o kiddos could actually interpret this video;
You should make a series of that, talking about puzzle levels, speedrun ones, etc...
That would be great since this was just for traditional levels. For example, he could make a basic tutorial of all the ways to make timers and camera position and all that stuff he does in his challenge vids and put them in a single vid, along with the many other types of levels.
Reply just to make this comment more visible
Reply noise
Those levels generally suck, stick with traditional levels until you have a very good understanding of Mario games.
@@steel5897 true, but still if someone finds himself wanting to create something different with a well made guide he will not have the absolute truth but the level could suck less, or maybe even be decent.
Me: How do I make a good Mario maker level?
Ceave: It's actually surprisingly simple!
Me: “I bet it’s gonna be hard to create a good Mario level.
Ceave: “Actually, super easy! Barely an inconvenience!”
Just copy the one that Nintendo made before and it is a good level. LOL
@@catowong1387 Better yet, copy a Donkey Kong level
@@dallinrichardson284
You can't make a DK level from Mario Maker assets.
However, I agreed that Dk levels are the best because of its unlimited gimmicks.
@@catowong1387well, yeah. I was just making a comment that I personally prefer how the DK games handle platforming more than the Mario games. They're both good.
"Make a level that you would want to play yourself"
-Waluigi (Circa 1991)
GamxrLee XAO i subbed to you
theozone I keep seeing you, why sub to everyone?
thats pretty good advice. Its the Golden Rule, but in Mario Maker
*-Ceave Gaming, 2019
@Mind Control Experiments I think you just need to be able to advertise it more, it needs to reach more people. Back in the original Mario maker days I also made traditional levels, but it didnt get that popular because MM was coming to an end (2018). It didnt reach anyone because nobody was on.
Just dont spam level IDs everywhere, that can just make it worse and is annoying to some people.
0:00 Yes, that is how the world began. Wait, were you talking about Mario Maker?
Very good explanation of excellent level design! I thoroughly enjoyed it!
“This stage features
dead skeleton turtles”
*Subtle, yet effective.*
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TwT
Pizza?
Jack Nation they are called dry bones
r/woosh he was quoting Ceave.
Ceave: "A good way to find hiccups in the difficulty"
Me: *Immediately starts hiccupping*
Unfortunately, this video won't stop the best vast majority of levels from being totally unplayable, just like last time. But I appreciate the effort.
You say it like it won't do anything
I didn't know that stuff, so my level design will improve
And probably a lot of people too
@@adamadamm6996 I agree this will help me a lot
There'll be interactive tutorials in the game itself made by a veteran level designer on Mario levels, so even if they don't see this video, they'll be helped
@@honeyxilia3903 Good job to Nintendo - that's something people desperately need
At least there’s a dislike button this time.
13:36 Did you really just say "Hooray!" right after killing a Yoshi? I thought you were nice to Yoshis :(
IKR?!
@Wheelchair Gaming lmfadfaomo
icay
Love you videos icay
@Wheelchair Gaming Ceave was not the imposter. 2 remain
As both a speedrunner, and a game designer, this video makes me very happy
If you are a real "game designer" then answer this ,
Why is my dad still getting milk after 4 years?
@The Default Because he has got a cow?
Yes.
Ceave Gaming released a video?
“Hooray”
How do you make an original joke on Ceave's channel?
It's actually surprisingly simple!
But Holy Fuzzy, its about the beginning of the world
"Lets do this"
"Yum yum mushrooms"
"Ouching spikes"
0:42 We need the ICE FLOWER in SMM2!
BOWMAN I can tell you there are
@@mouthlesshater Why do you think so? 🤔
@@the_bowman_ I got SMM2. No ice flower
@@masonmaplecat it would be cool if nintendo would add the ice flower in an update
BOWMAN yeah
just saying the third time I playtest my stages I will temporarily change to the ghost house night theme because that should remove all muscle memory I build while making the stage
This trick is so underrated
This is one of the best and maybe the most important videos you have ever made Ceave! Thumbs up!
It seems so important to me that I even made German Subtitles (it took a few hours to translate...) so that more people can learn from the video.
I edited the subtitles and now you just need to accept them before they can go online.
Edit: Thank you for accepting them ;)
why did youtube remove community subtitles? it was such a dumb decision
@@somerandomguy-3102 ikr
@@somerandomguy-3102lots of people just put stuff like slurs and self promotion, and they weren’t all that reliable
This is a very good guide for someone like me, who knows little about Mario, but wants to get into Mario Maker 2. Amazing as always!
I once actually made a level like this. It took me hours to clear, and it was deleted by Nintendo because of lack of stars weeks later. It’s still my favorite stage that I ever built.
15:10 who else noticed the voice crack?
"StArt to design it"
s t *A* r t
Hahaahha
Oh yea
Thx ceave! Cause of this the average of good levels will grow!😅👍
..........Hopefully.
It actually really help me to understand how surprisingly simple it is to make a good traditional mario stage !
@@blakeline1633 like ceave would say: its actually surprisingly simple to understand😅👍
@@Loo-i-gii "it's actually surprising simple" - Ceave
>replays level without running
>misses run jump
damn I guess my level is just too hard.
Lol
oi josuke
SAME!!!
I always dash in Mario games I'm never going to get your to just walking in a mario level
10:54 "and then, it's time for the checkpoint"
Everyone two seconds later: "they had us in the first half, not gonna lie"
Omg, you just murdered that poor Yoshi for a hidden secret ;-;
13:37 Homie Blue Yoshi
Could him get to that without killing the Yoshi? If he didn't Nintendo is abusing the Yoshi
#ENDYOSHIABUSE
For coins!!!!?
#ENDYOSHIABUSE
1. Don't spam enemies
2. Don't add pick-a-path doors/pipes/warp boxes
3. Don't put important stuff offscreen
Good job, your level doesn't suck!
by "important stuff", do you mean secrets or necessary stuff?
Maybe pick-a-paths could be allowed if there's clues about the right answer around the stage and/or they don't immediately lead to an unfair death, though.
Jake Hudson: Stuff that you are trying to reach or that can impede your progress. If you want a player to jump to a certain platform to progress, make sure they can actually see that platform. If they can't, then they won't know where to go. Likewise, if you want a player to have to avoid a thwomp, make sure they can see the thwomp. Otherwise, they won't know to look out for it.
Since secrets are supposed to be hidden, it's okay to put them offscreen. But it's good have some sort of indication that a secret is there. A hole in the ceiling, a far-off platform, a trail of coins, etc. would all be good ways to guide observant players to offscreen secrets.
@@SergeantSnivy_ a lot of mario stages follow these rules
I think pick-a-path levels would be okay if the wrong paths didn't immediately kill the player and there was a way to get back to the choices. Unfortunately most people just add death boxes and/or softlocks to all the wrong paths, which only leads to frustration.
your "HURAY" is the best thing i've heard in my entire life
7:06 that looks like the lava bubble from the blaster follows the tracks ^^
I thought there was a spring or something!
Can't wait to delve deeper into level design in mario maker 2!
I’ve been waiting for this one so much! Thank you ceave, i’m so excited for what you have in store for us after SMM2 drops.
nightowl i subbed to you
So basically stick to a theme, don't spam, and give the player fair warning.
Thats pretty much it. As long as there is no unfairness to the level like enemy spam, soft locks, dev exits, pick a door/pipe, and of course trolls.
@@iamjohnporter67 Although trolls can be quite fun.
@@TwiliPaladin If they are done in a funny and creative way.
@@iamjohnporter67 I can think of a few examples, such as Mole Patrol, Crate Suc, and Why Are You Stealing From Ruins.
@@iamjohnporter67 Troll levels are actually really fun to try and outsmart, but it is annoying when you get trolled out of nowhere in a level that wasn’t meant to be a troll level.
Me : Eh, might come back to this later.
Also me : I’M CRAVING MORRRRREE
This doesnt only apply in mario maker, these tips can even be useful in game dev
Agreed. I'm (kind of) a gamedev i guess? So i have experience designing platformers
Mario maker trolls and lazy makers: *sees this*
Also them: I going to pretend that I didn't see that.
I feel like its the job of trolls to do the opposite of 80% of this video :p
Nice pic of Gooigi 👍👍
@@Jords250 thanks
Some trolls are actually good and well designed!
Good troll levels actually follow some of the guidelines in this video.
8:20
To go along with this point, Red Hot Elevator Ride starts Mario in a small room where the lava begins to rise. It's not that hard to escape the lava and reach the pipe, but this room is useful for showing that rising lava will be a prominent feature in the rest of the level.
Then, we enter the room with the hot and presumably red elevator. As there is no other platform in the area, we hop onto the device and get a quick explanation of how the elevator works (by tilting the controller). We're now given a small space to figure out how to handle the controls before moving on the the hazards.
It's a simple concept, but it's rather effective at conveying level mechanics. Because of this, little introduction segments like these are strongly recommended to keep the player in the know.
Actually it is called red, hot and presumably elevator
Here something else that I think is really iconic to traditional stages:
Add a progressive Power-Up at the beginning of the Level. To get to the Power-Up use the Core Element of the stage while not being in Danger. The progressive Power-Up should also be based around the Background, Elements and Theme.
In the beginning, there was chaos.
In the end, there was chaos.
A general guideline: if your level has more enemies than tiles, chances are it's garbage.
unless the enemies ARE the platforms!
God I love buzzy beetles with wings
@@masonjones7777 good point actually, but at that point they're not really "enemies" per say as they aren't intended to be dangerous
@ROGAN I'm saying "enemy" as in an obstacle, koopa platforms are cool
I was actually going to start my own platformer game, and this video will definitely help! The tip about speedrunning is really going to help because I want to make a focus on levels that are fun to speedrun but can be played through casually perfectly fine. Thank you in advance!
Just saying, this actually REALLY helped me. I wouldn't consider myself a good creator, and I was always unsure how to build my levels. I am more of a traditional level kind of guy, so I am certainly glad that this video came out. Thanks!
I just want to say that ceave makes genuine non stop bangers with his content. They are educational, entertaining, and comfortable, with great editing and scripts as well. He is definitely one of the most underrated creators on youtube. Keep it up ceave ❤
I don’t think there is a definitive answer on building a good stage but I completely agree, nice video.
I’m glad you have mentioned this
It's basically how to build levels like in previous Mario games.
Spotted the garbage heap creator.
Huh?
@@Tjerty you make no sense lol
13:36
Yoshi: dies
Ceave: *HOORAY*
This was better advice than some channels focusing on this kinda thing gave.
Hey Ceave, around 9:30 you are showing the viewers the idea that it is useful to introduce your design choices in a level first before letting the player encounter them. This is a fundamental key-element for building a level in my opinion but the thing why I am writing this comment is that the bullet blasters aren’t really introduced to the player here. Due to the symmetrical design and the fact that the player is never able to actually touch them or die to them, they have more like an aesthetic reason to them. They don’t really get recognized as an “enemy” more than just some decoration because they are never in reach of the players doings. Also, I don’t think it’s preferable to introduce more than 1 idea at once and you are actually (after removing the fire ball) introducing 2/3 here. The Flame Throwers above, the bullet blasters(maybe) and the platform on tracks! For me, I prefer more simpler designs. One aspect of the level on one screen at the time. I don’t say it’s bad(!!) but I love your videos, always watching all of them, so I thought I could maybe leave some of my input. Have a good one!
I will use this to make my traditional levels. I usually make traditional ones, so this is very helpful : )
Oh wow, you're really good at this.
It's obvious you know a lot about what makes Mario levels good, as well as how to design a good one.
I'm excited to play your levels in Mario Maker 2!
The fact that this has to be a video makes me sad, however the fact that Mario maker 2 is so close makes me infinitely more happy
What made you sad about it?
The fact that that there are always going to be a lot of “trash” levels, especially considering there will be a lot more people playing, and therefore making levels in mario maker 2
@@vanelly5652 Well, practice makes perfect in order to make a good level.
Me too im sooo exited!!!
@@robinberger208 That is awesome and cool to hear
thanks for always putting captions / allowing community captions ^^
Dang
This thing works for any platformer games in general
Nice tips!
4:29 “This stage, for example, uses those stone eye thingies, which are called stone eyes.”
This genuinely made me laugh. I love your dry humour.
My 3 tips:
No troll invisible blocks
No softlocks
Don't just fart on the screen and call it a level (like spamming dirt and lakitus everywhere)
Damn was that annoying back then. Hopefully people understand that this is not funny to anyone but them.
Actually, speaking of kiazo blocks, I tried to turn this trope from an annoyance into an actual level. Plz tell me how it works.
Speaking of the Kiazo block, I tried to actually make a real level out of them. Plz tell me how it plays. *AE50-0000-03EB-ACD0.*
@@SussySupcon I sadly can't play it but I can only recommend that you make it fair and not with very cheap/stupid deaths. I wish you luck in future level creations
Soft-locks would no longer be a problem if they simply added a “Start over from checkpoint” button.
Everyone needs to study this level design analysis video. No debate needed.
I liked the video before watching it because I knew the video would be amazing.
I was not disappointed. Thanks for uploading this amazing guide!
16:48 It is possible to approach it pretty accurately, you just need to give Mario a 1/5 chance of dropping on top of the goal, and 4/5 chance of dying. Before that, TONS of springs because the randomizer's seed will always be the same.
What if people start over or quit before they reach the randomizer?
8:14 I object! Teaching Elements and Self Explanation don't always work. Sometimes there has to be a point where you have to react without learning.
Take the very first Goomba for example. It was not a teaching element and it worked.
The very first goomba in 1985 taught players how to jump
Please make more of these covering other kinds of levels, like speedruns and kaizos. This is a very high-quality and in-depth tutorial, and I would love to see more like it.
This is by far the best level design video I've seen for MM. It describes almost everything I could've thought of, and explains it brilliantly.
13:25 That's how you're meant to do that!?! I've been doing it the difficult way which is eating the top ones, freezing the bottom ones, and then jumping on them! And sometimes when I accidentally eat the piranha plant, I have to jump on them without ice!
This is really helpful! Usually i just decide on a theme, and then just slap on whatever and it’s pretty convoluted.
I love your Mario Maker vids cause they are hypung my sooooo much😍
Hype is dangerous.
Hypung? Cause? My? This adds nothing to the video. We all know were hyped for Super Mario Maker 2.
are you hyped for English class?
for a ravenclaw you spell pretty badly
Axlo Black LBH i sbbed to you
I've been playing and streaming viewer level critiques for about 5 years now and I've recommended this video a thousand times, but coming back to it now even with thousands of hours in mario maker it's still such good information to hear again, and covers so many things that are so, so important in basic level design. I miss all these great MM videos!
Your gonna have a lotta content for SMM2 lol
*you're
@@albond thx for making everyones lives so much better by pointing out a pointless mistake that could've easily just been a typo, wow ur so much smarter then everyone else
@@albond oxford grad over here
@@lukeanderson6999 Yeah, because you definitely need to graduate from Oxford to know the difference between "your" and "you're". That's literally primary school grammar. I actually don't know how people get it wrong 🤦♂️
@@albond because no cares about adding two extra letters
Thank you ceave, I’m not using this to make super Mario makerlevels but my own platformer game this video is required for every person who is making platformer levels
a lot of weird shit in a level: *happens*
Ceave: "It's suprisingly simple"
Great video! It really opened up my eyes to the importance of breathing room in between challenges. Some of my level don't have any. Some on purpose because they are meant to be really hard, but some are just suppose to be of medium difficulty. So stoke for MM2!
I'm trying to make the worst level in this game. I will avoid doing anything you say
Man, can't wait for the FIRST Mario Maker 2 Mushroom kingdom championship this year
19:38 My man predicted Walkies
You're an inspiration for the MM maps I'll be creating. Hope to get you to play some of them down the line!
Ceave: and then there is something for those of you who uses discord
Me: oh boy a ceave gaming discord server
Ceave: MM2 discord is a thing
We seriously need more videos like this that explain how to do a good level that isn't build around cheap deaths and challenges that are just not fun.
Please do more!
This video: [exists]
Troll level creators: *No*
Really good overall info not only about how to make better Mario Maker 1 and 2 levels, but also how the official levels are structured. Thank you for this, makes me crave making good levels in MM2 :)
Ceave: How to make a good Mario level
Mario maker 2 guide: I’m about to end this man whole career
That shit has crap advice. Ceave has good advice.
Things I want in mario maker 2.
-Mini mushroom with mini pipes
-in the underworld section one of those secret flags that are in the new super Mario bros series
-World maps for people who wanna make their own version of the game
-Tower style, Rocky Mountains style, volcano style, beach style
-Mushrooms that move up and down
-The outside of the ghost house when you finish the level
-Be able to make enemy’s giant
-Ice flower and penguin suit
-Those walls you can go through to a secret pipe or starcoin
-StarCoins
-Giant icesicles
-In the castle not always end with that bridge and boss fights where as soon as you kill the boss you win the level
-Those blue castle styles in new super Mario bros DS
-More bosses such as the giant goomba, mole in tank, koopalings, lightning cloud guy and dry bowser
-Water Caves style
-Sewer Style
-P switch’s that create coins or make water rise
I hope some of these are added
I'm the only weirdo who's watching this in May of 2020, doesn't have Mario Maker 2 and cries about not being able to put slopes.
I can't believe I found you again! You helped me be happy when I was at a summer camp last year. Thank You! :)
*The world is about to get nuked*
Crave Gaming: "Hoo-Ray!"
Wow, this was actually a very well thought out tutorial. Bravo!
Here’s how to make good levels:
Lakitu spams
Hidden Dev exits
Kaizo blocks
Pick-a-pipes
Then put that all in an underwater autoscroller.
Nicobbq reference?
Team Awesomeness
Partially.
hell to the no!
@@bookshelfxd yes
10:21 that goomba is going places for outstanding performance
this comment made me laugh lol
Ceave: Joins the Coinless craze
Alse Ceave: Permanently scarred, hates coins.
Great video! I really appreciate that you show examples of issues in your example stage and how to fix them.
If I may, I'd like to add that I feel like challenges and breather spaces are also defined by their PENALTIES FOR FAILURE and their REWARDS FOR SUCCESS.
For failing to make a jump, solve a puzzle, etc. there's a variety of different consequences you can execute in SMM:
Lose time (standard fail a jump, so you're back on the ground and have to jump again)
Miss a missable bonus area (say you had to make a jump on a paratroopa perfectly to get to an optional room)
Miss a collectable (if you've got a bunch of
Miss a powerup (block is positioned so a powerup falls into the abyss if not grabbed in time)
Take damage (any sort of enemy or projectile hits you)
Lose a life (Bottomless pit, crushing)
Whereas completing a section gives us various rewards:
Make progress towards level completion
Gain a collectable
Gain a powerup
Find a bonus area
It's the contrast and severity of these that seems to separate the breathing spaces from the challenge spaces!
From a game dev's perspective; This is such a great video! Good job Ceave! :)
What have you developed/worked on?
@@drummerboy0620 I work for a company called SavySoda. Our flagship game is called Pixel Starships. It's a space strategy mobile game. If it sounds like you're thing, check it out and let me know what you think :) It's a small team, but great people! We have a few million downloads, and a pretty massive player base now!
You should do a series about this covering different types of levels and how to make them challenging, fun, and generally awesome.
"Koopas are awesome!" - Ceave
I'd LOVE a series on such tutorial videos!
Ceave, I´ve got a challange for you: Try to beat New super Mario bros. U while killing every enemy in the stages.
I personally struggle with pacing my levels because even though I've played so many platformers, I never quite understood what made the pacing good. I tried this approach in a recent MM2 level, and it gained some attention rather quickly! Someone even commented that it was "finally a good water level" and I felt so proud of it.
I want to personally thank you for giving me some insight into how levels are made and paced, you've helped me get my Mario making back in shape!
I absolutely love your accent!
Not only can these things be applied to Mario Maker, they can be applied to almost any media creation. For example, at one point in the video there is an inside joke that is quickly on screen, and this is like one of those extra challenges in Mario Maker. Things like these make all media much more fun to consume :D
Thank you for doing this! I felt the pain of being one of few good makers at the game's start
8 year olds who spam bowsers and chain chomp throwing lakitus dont deserve to upload levels
But without enemy spam, 90% of Super Expert wouldn't exist! :P
@@IceMetalPunk Yes, super expert is really super kaizo/troll/spam enemy
TRUE!
Sometime I like to just mess around in the editor and see what Comes out of it, but I'm Always grateful for people who put the time in to try and educate people on actual good Level design, so thx Ceave :)
I normally kidnap people and ask them to play test my level, normally they do but halfway they start crying???
Does this mean my level is too hard?
Wilbo Baggins no there just jealous cause your level is great
Kill the dumb bitches no one ever crys
@@benshapiro4625 Woah there, calm down!
@Mind Control Experiments Well look who's talking.
@Mind Control Experiments Yeah, sure bud.
Ceave: murders yoshi for secret
Also ceave:
*Hooray*
Making good levels is actually surprisingly simple :)