Review: Breville the Grind Control Coffee Maker
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- Опубліковано 2 сер 2024
- Marc and Morgan from wholelattelove.com review the Breville Grind Control Coffee Maker. Whether you're making a single cup or a whole carafe, the Grind Control by Breville grinds fresh coffee every time you brew. Housed in elegant stainless steel, this machine raises the bar for drip coffee makers. Inheriting the mantel left by Breville's popular YouBrew series, the Grind Control boasts a number of improved and thoughtful features that make it a worthy successor.
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Really love your videos, they are always very thorough! Thanks!
many many thanks guys, I just found this one in the office where I work and have no idea how to operate it. gonna try it right now
I’m looking to get away from disposable pods this looks right up my alley! I am sold
love ur video, me disabled senior with learning disability as well. very easy to follow thank you thank u thank You What is there not to like.
Hi Peter, you’re welcome and thanks for the comment!
Does this machine have the plastic hoses like the Kuerig machines that are experiencing mold and bacterial problems??
Good machine!
What about the water filter?! does it have one! or we have to buy water all the time!
Lots of cleaning/maintenance needed to keep this machine running . Cleaning that is required. You must do it to keep it going.. Well built quality machine, great coffee
Hi John, Thank you for the comment!
sounds like a lot of work. what's your opinion of finding something like this combined with the 301 Ninja features. the 301 doesn't heat the milk, doesn't have a drip tray down below, doesn't allow a metal filter, has a lever that has to be flipped left and right to remove the carafe, which is ridiculous, etc, etc. Screw Ninja, I'd rather have a functional coffee machine such as this beauty. thx for a great video.
What make a better cup of coffee this or the Bonavitta1900?
Seven years late! I have a gaggia cadorna for my morning Americano and my wife’s milky drinks. But, I’m looking for something that will do a put that I can drink from though the morning. I’m running to decide between this and the breville precision brewer (which would need a grinder to be purchased as well). Any advice?
Do you think I can stop the infusion phase?
This was helpful, thanks!
Glad to hear it!
I love the random guitar solo at around 2:05. Gig-gig-gig-gow!
We have had this machine for some time. However we recently noticed a missing element to our coffee. We decided to.upgrade to the Moccamaster KGBT, and we use the Oxo goodgrips $99 burr grinder.
What is your opinion on my decision?
Hi mark, I think most important for good coffee is grinding quality beans right before brewing. Both setups do that. The Breville Grind Control automates much of the process. It has some adjustments which allow easy tuning of your coffee. But, it's an appliance quality build and does require regular cleaning to keep it working properly. The Moccamaster is a purer form of coffee making with excellent build quality and SCA gold cup certification for proper brew parameters.
Marc
For the last several years we have loved our Breville YouBrew. Unfortunately it broke and is no longer available. We tried the Grind Control model, but it does not have a steep control setting. YouBrew had a strength and flavor setting option. We had both settings at the highest so that we enjoyed very strong, but smooth coffee. For an individual cup, it would take @ 6.5 minutes to brew. The Grind Control took @ 3 minutes to brew, which made for a much weaker tasting cup of coffee. I called Breville customer service but they said that option is unavailable on this model. So, my question for you: Is there a comparable coffeemaker to the YouBrew? We want a machine with a grinder, single cup ability, and strength and steep time control. I have been looking at the Gaggia Anima, but it seems to have as many good reviews as bad. Your assistance is greatly appreciated!
So what did you get and are you still using it? Curious because I'm shopping these now. Also prefer the opinions of those with actual experience rather than copy readers. Thanks
Looking to replace my Keurig. I know this an older video. Is there another similar product to this that you recommend?
Hi TS, Thanks for the question. Have you considered a bean to cup automatic coffee machine. More expensive upfront but actually more convenient than Keurig, much lower cost per cup, superior coffee and no plastic waste! Here's a video from 12/19 comparing Keurig to bean to cup automatic coffee machines: ua-cam.com/video/bfeDXw8Rs9o/v-deo.html
Hope that helps!
Marc
Is it really 17" high? Literature I read said 16.3" and 17" will NOT fit under my cabinet.
Nice review!
Glad you enjoyed it!
Is the brew basket stainless steel?
what is the best grind and brew coffee maker? also which make is best? is this the best?
Hi Shaur, Well, what's best for one may not be best for all. But, feature wise, I'd call the Breville Grind Control the best. Here's a link to a side by side spec comparison of the Breville Grind Control to grind and brew makers from Cuisinart and Capresso: www.wholelattelove.com/product_comparisons/show?products%5B%5D=breville-bdc650bss-grind-control&products%5B%5D=cuisinart-dgb-900-grind-brew-thermal-carafe-12-cup-automatic-coffee-maker&products%5B%5D=capresso-coffeeteam-pro-plus-thermal
Is this still a good coffee maker to buy today? I need a new one and just got into the whole good cup of coffee thing
Hi MG, It's still good but does require cleaning to keep it working well. Other option for outstanding coffee is a separate grinder and SCA certified brewer like this one: www.wholelattelove.com/bonavita-new-8-cup-coffee-brewer-with-stainless-steel-lined-thermal-carafe
I am trying to get a milder coffee to brew. I’ve adjusted my strength to 1 and the grinder to 3. Still very strong. Got any ideas?
I’ve really liked Honduran coffee beans. Lower acid.
I'm still fussing with the settings on my Cuisinart DGB-900BC (thermal carafe / no hot plate) trying to make the coffee strong enough. There are 3 strength settings, but no grind size control. Today I set it to "strong", set the grind control to 8 cups, but only put 4 cups of water through it. It's still not strong enough for my liking and the flavor isn't great either. How did this Breville compare to the Cuisinart Grind & Brew series in your experience? I might have to go back to my 5 cup Mr. Coffee for now. At least with that, I had a technique down for making a good cup.
I have the same machine. My rule of thumb is to set the grind 2 numbers higher than the water level. Grind at 10, water at 8. Strength at 3. I never have any problem with my coffee. Plenty strong. Never weak. What kind of roast are you using? Do you clean out the chute and occasionally run a descaler or vinegar through the machine?
4 settings higher for grind/water seems REALLY strong. There has to be an issue somewhere... and before you tell me I'm making my coffee weak... I'm a coffee snob from Seattle. I wouldn't make weak coffee :) Haha
how do you get it to onces from milliliter?
Hi James, I do not have one in front of me at the moment so cannot confirm if it's even possible. Did check the manual and did not find a mention of changing units of measurement. Try here for answer: brevilleusasupport.com/
What about this machine keeps it from having SCAA Certification?
Stuart Jay Hi, thanks for the question. I’m not certain. Could be it was never submitted for consideration or maybe the various brew methods like the single cup eliminate it from consideration.
Marc
Is there a way to empty out the water completely from the Breville Grind Control? Perhaps if the water has been in the tank for too long?
Also, is there a feature for just hot water? Thanks!
Hi, There is no specific feature for just hot water although you could just run a brew with no coffee to get just hot water. There is a procedure to empty the machine of water which involves setting the machine to brew using pre-ground but not actually putting any pre-ground coffee in the basket. Here's a link to the machine's manual which outlines the procedure on page 25: www.brevilleusa.com/media/mediaappearance/16074/BDC650BSS_USC_IB_C15_Lowres_master.pdf
My single cup capsule brewer broke few days a go. I just made coffee with my old regular drip brewer and the coffee was great. I was using too much the capsule brewer and I totally forgot what is a good cup of coffee. Those capsules are awful
+Paul linos The capsule brewers offer some level of convenience but quality in the cup is lacking. For some coffee is merely a caffeine transport mechanism and lack of flavor is not a big deal. Or maybe they've never had a good cup from freshly roasted and freshly ground beans so they don't know what their missing!
In the market for a good machine; does this make a lot of noise grinding?
+trinhk It's fairly quiet compared to other grinders.
My water level sensor stopped working. It doesn't display the amount of water in the tank, and stops brewing whenever it wants. What is happening?
Hi Trina, Thanks for the question. I advise contacting Breville customer support here for assistance: www.breville.com/us/en/support/breville-support.html
Need to descale
Is the better flavor from preinfusion or more coffee?
Hi JK, Depends... pre-soak of coffee grounds prior to brewing def improves flaovr when working with coffee that's very fresh from roast. It allows the CO2 locked up in the grounds to off-gas bprior to brewing.
what maintenance is required vs Kcups?
Hi JK, Working with fresh ground coffee it's important to keep coffee delivery chute clean. Then normal stuff like emptying grounds cleaning filter basket etc.
My Breville coffee maker keeps displaying message "Clean the chute". I've done that several times yet I still can't get the darn thing to work. Any suggestions? I even used the compressor to blow the dust and and any leftovers out of it and still nothing.
+Jerry Svejda Hi Jerry, Here's a support document from Breville on how to clean the chute: brevilleusasupport.com/bdc550xl/use/care/
+Whole Latte Love
HI, thanks for reply. Followed all the instructions and unfortunately the problem persists.
Jerry Svejda
Sorry to hear that. Have you called Breville Support?
just watched again thank you
Thank you too
I really want this machine
Hi Troy, Thanks for the comment!
Marc
I was waiting to get this coffee maker so long because it’s very expensive. Finally I got it and was very disappointed. I loved how it worked and how you can adjust everything and make a single cup, but I had to return it. Your coffee got cold too quick. When your coffee is done the temp is just ok. Then it gets cold. And I wanted my coffee stronger and the reason I got this is so you can adjust your strength. All it does is grind it finer, then it was very fine and got into my coffee. Why could it just grind MORE coffee or add less coffee. That’s how you make your coffee stronger. Why couldn’t it just do that? It grinds it finer and then it gets in your coffee. It was almost perfect and almost amazing. It was disappointed because I really was in love with how it worked. I wanted to love it.
Hi RH, Thanks for sharing your impressions of the machine. You should have been able to change strength by adjusting the amount of coffee ground. It's a feature of the machine.
Whole Latte Love I tried everything on it and the coffee wasn’t hot enough. Of course I adjusted the strength. I’m assuming that was suppose to add more coffee grounds, that’s the only reason I bought this machine and it didn’t do much. So you say it’s a feature of the machine, yes it is, but it doesn’t work that well or at least for me. Who wants cold coffee anyways. So is there some hidden way I was suppose to add more coffee grounds? Did I do it wrong? Did adjusting the strength not work? Also, I adjusted how fine the coffee was ground but it got into my coffee. Thanks for your reply though.
Love You Nala Hello... I know this conversation is old, but I just upgraded from my old Breville to the “new” one in this video. I LOVE my old one and I find I have to get used to this one. I’m only on Day 2, so I don’t want to be too critical. My first impression was that I can’t get my coffee as strong as on my old machine. Even with the strength on 8 and the grind on the finest setting. The brew time is cut in half of my old machine, so I wonder if that factors in to it not getting as strong as we like it (or the water as hot?). I liked the warming plate on my old machine, too, as it warmed the cup while the coffee was brewing. I have had both the Breville coffee and tea maker for 6+ years, and needed to replace my coffee maker. I expected to love the new design features MORE, but I think I just need a little time to get used to it. I will not be returning it because I really do love these machines. Hoping you do, too! 🌈
How loud is the grinder? I get up earlier than everyone else.
Hey Nick, It's not terribly loud but might wake a light sleeper?
Is it possible to get only hot water ( for green tea)
Hi BJ, I Honestly don't know. I think the unit will want to grind some beans. Maybe if there were no beans?
it has a setting where you can set coffee strength to zero in case you want to use your own grinds. I use that setting with no grounds to get only hot water, however it has faint coffee flavor and smell. If you don't mind that, it works just fine.
Can you JUST grind beans without making coffee? Would like to do that to take the grounds with me to an outing.
Hi Michelle, I would think it's possible. I don't have a Breville handy at the moment to try myself but would think you could start a brew cycle and cancel after the beans are ground.
Marc
yes, thats right you can like Marc mentioned. just increase the strength and cups for more or decrease for less. while you can cancel itl, you cant do it without required water in the tank (which is a shame but can be done by cancelling after the grind
)
I find my coffee comes out acidic / metalic, any advice?
Hi london402, Nothing earth shattering I can advise. Any chance it's the coffee you are using? Does it happen to be a medium roast high altitude coffee? These tend to be brighter (more acidic).
Make it stronger, if you don't have enough coffee ground for the cup or pot size then it will be acidic. Also in general the lighter the bean roast the more grinds needed.
Question? How do I brew ground coffee beans in this machine? Do will put grounds in basket? Bean hopper? Thanks!
Hi JM, Thanks for the question. Def use the basket and not the bean hopper! Full instructions for using preground coffee on page 16 of this manual: www.breville.com/content/dam/breville/us/en/assets/miscellaneous/instruction-manual/coffee/BDC650-instruction-manual.pdf
Hope that helps!
Marc
OK so I have one more question! I have probably tested (trying different programming‘s) five pots of coffee to get the strongest brew possible, and can’t seem to accomplish it! My coffee comes out so water down what am I doing wrong?
can you make coffee without grinding - i don't want grindng noise in the morning waking me up.
Yes, turn the strength dial to 0
We’re on our second one and I have to say it’s frustrating us. They really need to make the grinder chute easier to clean.
Hi RJ,Thanks for the comment sharing your experience. Grind chute does require some regular cleaning. Would be nice if it where more accessible - at least Breville includes brush tool.
I have this machine and no matter what I do- the coffee comes out like water. The problem is the temperature of the water does not get hot enough and it leaves the flavor in the coffee grinds. Major design flaw.
Hi md, Hmmm.... I wonder if there might be an issue with your machine. Might be worth a call to Breville support.
@@Wholelattelovepage I contacted them and they sent me a second brand new machine and it has the same problem. Also, on page 11 on the owner's manual it says to pre-heat the basket by running it under hot water. Lol...seriously? I don't even need to do this with my $24 dollar Walmart coffee machine (which by the way makes better coffee).
Didn’t know Jim Hoppers little bro was so into coffee
hahahaha
Just wanted to chime in after reading peoples comments we have had ours for close to four years now and Have not had any problems. Descale your machine. Clean the bean chute
Hi JAA, Thanks for sharing your ownership experience. Maintenance makes all the difference!
Marc
see came back soon
Marc: you guys don't do much drip coffee maker review and comparison? Technivorm moccamaster has been been best coffee maker for decades but other have caught up with more features and much lower price.
Hi A, Thanks for the comment. I guess we are a little more espresso focused. I have reviewed the Moccamaster in the past along with other SCA certified drip brewers like the Bonavita BV 1900TS: www.wholelattelove.com/products/bonavita-new-8-cup-coffee-brewer-with-stainless-steel-lined-thermal-carafe which does have lower price than the Technivorm.
Marc
This is a cool machine I just wish it looked a lot better.
Hi APC, Thanks for sharing your opinion!
It would have been nice to see the machine actually working. In particular, how does the grinder work, i.e. from fine to coarse, what do the grinds look like? And how much coffee per cup is used from the weakest to the strongest setting? And finally why would anyone shell out $300 for this machine when other drip coffee machines can be had for less than $100. As is, your review is but an reading of a Breville Marketing Brochure. You do better usually. Thanks for the great work you do otherwise.
Grinder died within 6 months. Returned machine and second grinder died within 3 months. A very expensive drip machine. I bought a Capresso burr grinder and think probably too much to ask from a single machine under $1000.
So if doing 1 quick cup of coffee - it takes approx 4 minutes? Not including grind time. That's a long time to wait.
It sounds like it doesn't get hot enough from reviews I've read. 162 for a single cup? Hmm.... Why is it very few mfrs can't pull off the right temperature? I'm not going to run my hot tap water to get that hot and fill the carafe to let that sit for a bit before I make coffee. No way.
+karunald Pre-heating brewing equipment is a very common practice. 162 is a good in cup temperature for specialty coffee. Most people we know who enjoy specialty coffee prefer it cooler. 150ish is a common temp. More flavor can be tasted the closer a beverage is to body temp.
As for the 4 minute brewing... That's a fairly common immersion time for press coffee. When making single serve, the Breville Grind Control is using a press type process for brewing.
+Whole Latte Love - That may be. But in the dead of winter after an outside activity or even getting up in the morning - a HOT cup of regular great tasting coffee is a great and needed thing.
I also wish Breville made a good coffee machine without the grinder so one can have that option. Like they've done with their Espresso machines.
I like this though, mostly worried about temperature.
karunald
If looking for an excellent drip coffee maker without grinder check out models certified by the SCAA. They all brew with 195-205F water. There are models from Bonavita, Behmor, Technivorm and others. This Bonavita is a favorite of ours: www.wholelattelove.com/products/bonavita-5-cup-stainless-steel-lined-carafe-coffee-brewer
For ultimate brewing parameter control check out models from Behmor with adjustable brew temps: www.wholelattelove.com/coffee-makers/drip-brewers?brand=Behmor+Inc.&sort=featured
+Whole Latte Love Was thinking about the Beymor (love that huge water reservoir). And just looking at the Oxo.
karunald
Behmor is nice. One of the few brewers that heats all brew water to a precise and adjustable temp prior to brewing.
Have been using the BDC600XL since 2012...it's beginning to malfunction so might be upgrading to the 650BSS. I bought my 600XL in 2012. I like the fact that it doesn't have the disposable plastic capsules that all the climate nazi's get all upset about. I mostly drink a 14 oz. latte of coffee with the machine and appreciate the single cup (adjustable) capability and ability to use pre-ground coffee as well. What I dislike about both the 600XL and this machine is that for single cup coffee the temperature is way off.... I have to heat the coffee in the microwave just to get it where I want it. Breville suggesting to preheat your cup is just ridiculous!
In my opinion any coffee maker using a stainless steel karafe is out of the picture. Stainless steel absolutely ruins the flavor of coffee, where glass does not.
Hi Alan, Thanks for sharing your opinion. I wonder if some people are more sensitive to tasting stainless? Personally I don't.
Marc
@@Wholelattelovepage Possibly. If you read reviews on Amazon for insulated coffee cups or travel cups, there are some that taste the difference and some that don't. I will only put my coffee in a ceramic mug or glass, as any type of stainless steel lined thermos or travel cup just makes it taste bad.
Alan Gross Hi Alan. Interesting point!... I don’t enjoy my coffee as much either when I need to use my stainless travel mug. I wonder if they had problems or complaints with the warming plate that was on my old Breville, so they decided to do away with it and use the stainless to keep the coffee warm? Anyway, as the ONLY coffee drinker in the house 😉 , it’s not a deal breaker for me. I always brew into my cup. Wishing you well!!! ☀️
glass or porcelain for me too.
I prefer the stainless steel thermos type carafe. I did not like the taste in my previous drip coffee maker that used glass on a hot plate.
Con: its plastic.
Mark is hot
Thanks. Shot that video 5 years ago so I'm going with getting better with age? :)
Marc
brews weak coffee
Hi sm, Hmmm... maybe grind finer or up the coffee dose for a stronger cu?
Marcp
you can increase strength, get medium roast.
Dont waste your time with this junk. We bought one, it would never work right and the company would only warranty out their product if we paid out of pocket.
Hi RR, Sorry to hear you had a bad experience - thanks for sharing.
I purchased a Breville Precision Brewer. You are better off to purchase a standalone grinder, rather than one that's attached to the machine which is very expensive to be repaired, and certainly will wear out over time. My ex-roomate had this coffee maker which was awesome, and woke us up every morning. It made great coffee, but seem to taste a little acidic.
@@aliendesign2023 we already went and bought a 12$ brewer and a 6$ grinder... the only 2 things this breville is good for is target practice or take it to breville corporate and throw it through their window... either way I'll never buy another breville because they dont stand behind their product
Definitely the worst coffee maker I’ve ever owned. Needs a lot of marketing.
Hi J, thanks for sharing your experience.