2018 Subaru Crosstrek Review and CVT vs. 6MT Comparison
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- Опубліковано 4 жов 2024
- For 2018 Subaru drops the XV name and piles on the features. We take a look at the loaded Limited model, as well as the more affordable Premium edition in this complete review, shot in South Dakota.
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The last 5 minutes of this video makes me happy. I'm so glad Subaru still offers manual transmission in new models, and a updated one at that.
sleepyfu not in the UK they dont. Its CVT only but then again, nice and relaxing to drive for an older man like me :D
I just ordered a 2019 premium manual - SO happy Subaru is still offering it as well :-)
Not anymore :(
@@tomaskroupakkfoto4132 wow, every surprised, EU always had more manual gearbox compared to the North America.
@@mikeoxlong3676 😭
Thank you thank you thank you for reviewing the manual model unlike everyone else
Shervy2k I totally agree. First review in depth of the manual transmission.
I recently purchased the manual base model as tested here. Like the reviewer says it is way more “fun and engaging”. I will sacrifice a few mpg to have that. The manual with the n/a engine harkens back to the old school Subaru feel I loved and learned to drive a stick on. Thank you Subaru for that.
To get the most out of a low power engine, a manual transmission is the only way to go.
Actually, its the CVT cause of the Torque Converter. Low power engines benefit from torque converters!
The Fiat 500 proves otherwise
Manual=useable
Automatic =garbage
Really the cvt wouldn't be a bad option if they optimized it better for "fun". The issue is they optimize it sooo much for economy you lose all the power. So glad they offered the manual... that way they can get their awesome eco rating but we can still have fun with the manual.
@@moonsapling CVT and torque converter are two separate things
@@doyouhavegainsonyourphone4507 no, a CVT contains a torque converter right before the pulley/belt assembly.
Subaru, if you're listening put a turbo in the Crosstrek with a manual transmission.
Probably won't happen because the audience won't be large enough. The Crosstrek is more for offroading compared to the Wrx (sedan). Turbos aren't used very often with offroading.
Agreed, I don't expect it to happen but I can wish :)
Or a diesel with a manual!
The 2019 Forester will be all-new on this same global platform. It will offer the XT model with the turbo, so Subaru won't offer one in the Crosstrek.
Sounds like the old WRX hatchback. Lift it, there, Turbo Crosstrek.
I have a 2018 crosstrek 6spd manual, and I've got 1800 miles on it. So far, per tank average, is 31-33mpg, which includes in town, bumper to bumper fwy commuting traffic, and some offroading. I live in So Cal. Slightly downhill to work, and slightly uphill coming home. The 6pd manual is every bit as good on fuel efficiency as the CVT and I'd say I could easily beat its efficiency. It has several ways of monitoring your gas consumption and it's pretty easy to get 35-39mpg on the hwy, going 70mph. Don't gun it all the time, and you'll save a lot of money in gas. I'm not convinced about the hype of the CVT having better gas mileage at all!
Where are you taking it off road? how is it?
Hey, if you happen to see this, what RPM are you seeing at 70 mph in 6th gear on your Crosstrek? Thanks.
Approximately 3k :)
Thank you.
So glad to hear this! I just ordered a 2019 6 spd manual and heard that it gets better gas mileage than what they say. I'm super excited to get it soon!
After watching this I feel even happier about my 2019 6 speed manual Crosstrek purchase. I love it and its fun to see what others think compared to other versions of the same car. Thank you!
I would also get it with the manual, I completely agree with him ! I don’t need this extra fancy stuff
A great overview, Ryan. And very timely. I'm getting ready to order a Crosstrek and really want the manual. You have given me confidence in that choice. Thanks!
Did you buy one? How is it if so?
Purchased my first Subaru last year. 2016 crosstrek. I have owned many cars and rarely have one i truly love. I love my crosstrek. 2 complains, power and tech. It is way behind in both. But i freaking love it. I enjoy driving it daily. Great in the snow and light off roading. Taking it to the beach and it does well as long as not too much time has passed since it rained. If anything were to happen to my crosstrek or when its time for another car i would go right to the dealership and say, "again please". My next car will be another crosstrek
HP is horrible
This car is not for running, it's for getting there. But, if you want a car to run and get to ... Subaru Forester XT. (250 HP)
Subaru uses, older tested and reliable tech, so that unlike the big 3 you aren't constantly in the shop getting updates and repairs for electronics.
Rarely Replies same for me. I bought a levorg gts 2016 and Will always stay with Subaru!
@@sternklint What is a levorg?
Yes! I'd love to see a CrossTrek WRX... with a stick of course. I'd buy one.
swap a ej205 in a manual
Loving my 6 speed manual. Better feel and gearbox than my 2014 Hatch WRX.
Then buy a WRX.
LOVED hearing you enjoyed the manual! My dealer just factory ordered a 2019 premium manual transmission for me since the manuals they had coming in were already pre-sold. I will have to wait for it, but worth it to get the manual, which is what I wanted!
i have the 2019 6 speed Manual CrossTreck and its a great car.
What's average highway mpg?
Hell yes. Just ordered the exact Premium 2.0 in orange and 6spd. You can get lots of the tricky stuff added on. Can't wait to see it.
mehrgott1 me too
Thank you! Thank you! Thank you! Thank you Ryan and DSTV! I have been WAITING for a video like this where folks compare Automatic/CVT AND Manual vehicles! Thank you especially for doing it with the Crosstrek! I'm a subscriber now.
Thanks for doing this comparison. I was happy to see Subaru gave the Crosstrek a 6 speed Manual rather than the 5 speed. I wondered how the two transmissions would compare.
The 6sp Subaru is putting into their cars now (STI excluded) has a horrible feel. It's cable connected, numb, and has tons of slop in the gate. I'll take the feel of the previous 5sp over the 'new' 6sp all day. It was tighter, notchier, and you could feel the engine / trans vibration because it isn't cable connected.
s2kburbs I agree with my 2017 WRX. After marker short throw is a must. And rev hang in 1st gear is pretty bad.
Just call Kartboy
Driving Sports TV kartboy or any shifter / bushings will not eliminate what I'm talking about. It's a IMO flaw of a cable driven manual transmission. I sell Subaru's, I've driven them all, owned a 2012 Impreza 5sp premium and now in a 2013 WRX. The feeling of all of Subaru's 6sp (again STI excluded) is numb, and has TONS of slop in the gate. You can't fix this with after market parts.
If you get a lighter crank pulley it helps kill some of the rev hang.
I purchases a 2017 WRX premium last year and love it. With a baby on the way I'm leaning towards a Crosstrek manual eventually. Seems more practical and still with the manual, a little bit of fun. If they popped in a turbo with 200-225 horsepower, that would be amazing. Crosstrek XT would be badass! Great review as always.
I guess if you need more room in the backseat for a baby seat and you/spouse are tall, but ditching the WRX sounds like a bad idea; been there done that; just pack smart and you'll be fine...in a way, it sounds like you are more of a Forester XT Premium kinda person; sure the Crosstrek offers a lot, but the Forester offers more, except a manual is only available in the base 2.5i trim, XTs get a "special" CVT
K03sport Haha you're spot on! I had a 2014 forester xt and traded it in for the WRX. Bonehead move kinda but I've always wanted a WRX and finally decided it was time. Went camping with the WRX recently and it fit gear for two people fine. I think I'll hang onto the WRX as long as I can. It's too fun to drive!
TBH all they would need to do is to give it 2.5L FB motor and maybe tweak final drive ratio. It would nake it fast enough. like 7,5s to 60mph fast. Instead of 10.5s of 2L model.
Then you could also give it more free breathing exhaust and air filter and it would do almost 200hp from very economical engine.
Sadly they only done that with cvt whicy nullifies any sportiness it might have had out of bigger motor. Tho you could try getting a 2015 Forester 2.5L with manual, it would be more roomy and capacious than Crosstrek and be faster. Its the same platform pretty much. Then if you want more sporty handling just swap out the struts to some sporty ones like sarah-n-tuned did with hers and it will be quite fun.
The crostrek doesn't need more power if you know how to drive it. The vehicle so well balanced that you really don't need to slow down much before a turn. The ecu cvt version also learns your driving habits and will adjust itself to how you drive, I feel it especially feel like it copies driving habits from when driving in manual mode.
IMO The best cares don't maximize power but they maximize overall balance... if you really want more power there is always aftermarket mods, or just mod the motor for ones self.
Love our 2019 premium with 6 speed manual transmission. So fun to drive while on the power band. The exhaust note sounds pretty cool too!
I'm not planning anything more adventurous than the gravel driveway to a friend's barn, but I can see the AWD making a difference on paved roads when wet or otherwise slick conditions develop. I don't want to go out in bad conditions, but it will be nice to know I can get get home.
@@5610winston Makes a huge difference in rain/ snow/ ice too. Great cars.
I got my first subaru a few months back.Its a 2018 crosstrek limited.Its fully loaded,and like you said get the extra safety stuff.Mine has the eye sight safety,and its already paid for itself.A guy pulled out in front of me at the last second.And before i could react the safety system kicked in and stopped us from T-boning that guy.The gas mileage is awesome.With 3 adults and some luggage coming back from Vegas,got 30+ on the on the mileage.i would probably go with fabric seats,as the leather seats are not very comfortable when it gets to be 90+ degrees outside.I use the back hatch all the time,when i leave work i open the hatch throw stuff in and go.This my first vehicle like this,as i have been a truck guy most of my driving life.I agree it does lack some power.I have no problem passing on the freeway,and if you add power ,you may lose a little mpg's.I don't think people buy a crosstrek for its power.It has the mileage range to get you out there and back.
I'm honestly thinking about getting one of these with the 6 speed manual, I'm a big jeep guy, had a few wranglers but I recently priced the new JL and their prices are insane, this is a much better daily driver/weekend warrior vehicle in my opinion, and good on Subaru for still keeping a stick in it for those of us that still enjoy the driving experience
Did you get the Crosstrek? How do you like it?
I put in an order for a manual Premium, due for delivery in April.
I'm just getting it as a family friendly (OK, pack friendly, for my Norwegian Elkhounds and me) daily driver and road trip cruiser. I have a ten-year-old Frontier and it just isn't up to two medium-size dogs. Looks like two kennel crates will fit in the Crosstrek with a little creative packaging.
Thanks for this video. I have a 2016. 5 speed. I ready for the the new 2018. I know. Manual is always more fun. Plus I believe is safe too. You always focus in driving.
Ty. Just bought one and waiting for delivery. I feel better about the purchase after see your video. TY.
I've owned the manual for the past 2 years, it's been my city commuter car, going into nyc and Newark almost daily. I feared that it would be exhausting driving a stick in traffic but I was pleasantly supprised, the clutch is light and first gear is somewhat shorter of a ratio, so there is less effort required to set off. And as soon as you want to have some fun it is far more entertaining then driving the automatic wrx even. I am buying out my lease when it ends.
I got the manual 2018, and it's fun as hell to drive.
Homero J what mpg do you get on the highway? Did you notice a difference in performance or mpg after the break in? In motortrends 2018 SUV of the year they said the manual Crosstrek got 38.5 mpg on the highway. That seems high.
@@curtis1951 I have a 2018 base model 6MT, and it has averaged 30.5 mpg combined driving over 10,000 miles. On the highway I can get 34+, depending on how I drive. Mileage drops off once you go above 70 mph. And it never feels slow to me, especially compared to the '87 GL 4WD I had back in the day. This current power plant has a 6500rpm redline, and pulls all the way to it. That's the beauty of a manual; you can shift to an appropriate gear to keep the engine in whatever part of the power band you want.
@@dennisobrien3618
Thanks for the info.
I don't know why people complain about the power. This isn't supposed to be a sexy roadster, it's a vehicle designed for adults who require practicality - and as he said, capability. I've had a few sports car back in the day and they were great when I was a young man. Now I need something I can drive in the country that's reliable and durable and has a lot of cargo room for everything from dogs to lumber, so my options are something like this or a truck and I don't like trucks. I don't bomb down highways anymore either. In short, I'm their target demographic and there are a lot of us out there. A bigger, more powerful engine is just going to add cost to the vehicle that said target demographic isn't asking for to begin with. Reviews and reviewers should always keep these sorts of things in mind, yet they rarely do.
Sparky Mahoney very well said. People are obsessed with power but when do you need to do 0-60 in 5 seconds? Never.
Sparky Mahoney ....very well said. Another review said it does everything right. So true. Love my 6mt Scooby
We're not asking it to do 0-60 in 5 seconds, and we don't insist it be a 'sports car.' There's a difference between a gutless sedan and a sports car. Additionally, there are plenty of applications for torque for those who might take the vehicle off pavement. Maybe you should get a minivan if you are so insistent to have little acceleration.
I can agree on the power but bloody hell the cabin noise is bad!
The biggest sore spot I see with the Crosstrek is the red backlighting on dash with the analog display. Have to buy limited to get rid of that and then no manual. As for power, I had a 2013 Impreza with the CVT and then moved into a 2014 Forester XT with a CVT. The extra power provided by the turbo engine is amazing. I do not drive fast like a young kid but I like to accelerate to 40 fairly quickly without my engine RPMs even getting up to 3000. Nice not to hear my engine screaming to get up to speed.
Looking for part of review about manual transmission? Go to 7:35
I find the speed quite adequate. I already load it up with tons of camping gear to take to the storage plus a grill, vacuum cleaner, and a heavy tent cot. Its a real fun car to drive with just the right amount of tech as I got the premium standard package with the cvt. With the stiffer ride and 13:1 steering ratio you can go faster on the turns/ curbs without having to feather the brakes. I like how the big trucks try to intimate by tailgating but cant keep up on the turns. I love love this Crosstrek (2018 model)
Thank you for this specific review. I'm looking into the manual version and this helps me out a ton!
Great review! Glad you did the comparison, as I love manual.
My wife has the manual 2016 crosstrek. I have a 2018 WRX STI, of course I notice a power difference. She never has issues passing on the highway, peak torque for most gears is higher than expected (like 5000 RPM) obviously not in 1st gear! I took a tent trailer (about 1000 lbs) through some hilly areas while camping and it towed it pretty well, at higher RPM it was eating hills, going about 130-140km/h. It tapped out on one hill in 5th gear, but then again I'm really pushing it's limits in this example. I was testing it out that time, I don't generally drive like that while hauling nor suggest doing it. The torque split is a true 50/50 split with a viscous coupling, the CVT version is biased 51/49 front/rear iirc, like an imprezza. All in all it's a great daily driver, and has decent passing power once you get a feel for it (was never an issue in our experience.) Also if you want a few more HP (like 2 lol.) you can remove the carbon filter in the intake air box. They have it double filtered for the PZEV rating but it ends up restricting the air flow as well. An excellent vehicle, I remark on how nice it is whenever I borrow it, engine sounds amazing too. It was a choice between the Nissan Qashqai and the Crosstrek, Crosstrek was really expensive, and more of a niche market, but it was exactly what she wanted (AWD, stick shift, japanese, not a fat ass SUV.) Won't say it's the mutt's nuts, but it fits the bill and doesn't disappoint. I see lots of "slow" comments online, but don't see a lot of owners complaining about it. Though most people don't have the manual version and a lot of the power complaints relate to the CVT.
I can understand with manual we cannot have whole eyesight system, but why we cannot get full led headlights and bigger infotainment system....
Because Subaru America hates it's customers. Subaru Canada offers manual with a sunroof, led headlights, 8 inch touch screen, and power seat. Oh and a heated steering wheel
Bryan Wiley there is no reason eyesight couldn't work with a manual. Hell ford Europe focus manual can park itself
No, I cannot understand that. Toyota (e.g. Corolla SE), Honda (e.g. Accord Sport), Mazda, and many other companies offer full suite of active safety systems with manual transmission. Currently, both of my cars are Subaru, but I know I'm not buying another Subaru if EyeSight isn't offered with manual transmission.
have fun driving a manual
because incentive to not get the manual
My fiancé and I recently picked up our (my) 23 Crosstrek 6MT and I absolutely love it. It’s no WRX but I didn’t expect it to be. Besides, they don’t even make the hatchback WRX anymore which is the body style I fell in love with. But this Crosstrek is a huge step up from my 97 Nissan pickup (455,000 miles pops is the original owner). It’s comfy, heated seats, handles nicely, drives great, decent fuel economy (averaging 30 combined with my highest documented at 32) and even though it’s the 2.0 it still has pep in its step. Do I think it needs a little more with that 2.5, sure do! But I didn’t want to sacrifice not having the manual and honestly I’m so happy I stood my ground. It’s a good mix of the old tech that I love and the new tech that I need. All around it’s a great solid car that gets you to and from work with decent fuel economy and also have some fun when you want to. Will be taking it up to Durr Rd here soon!
Just picked up my 2022 Manual Crossteek sport. Did a trip last weekend and measured fuel used compared to distance traveled suggests I could get 900km for a 63L tank. Most of my driving is in town, which brings range down to 680km.
Had the car on a very hilly back road with bog potholes and smiled to no end. This little car is amazing on side roads.
It still kills me inside when a manufacturer makes a manual option, but it is intended as a "I need the cheapest car possible" option, and restricts the options you can get. Like, the car people who would buy stick would also be the most keen to get exactly the options they want (at least I do).
It's only a US thing. You can either get one with the cheapest options or with the high-end performance cars. Middle ground sucks.
manufacturers make what sells
I sure wish my manual crosstrek had leather seats
I wish my CrossTrek had a manual instead of the CVT
Hill descent is too fast because you went into the hill without pressing the brakes. You're supposed to use the brakes to find the speed that you want, and then let go.
true. that way the vehicle "understands" what you want.
Walter Black ...well said. Too many computers overriding. If you can’t figure out how fast to decent you probably should stay on the tarmac
2.0XT engine from the forester in this... Crosstrek STI... pre-made gravel rally car. DONE. Especially since they don't sell the hatchback STI anymore...
I mainly got my crosstrek with a 6spd because I liked how it drove. It was one of the biggest factors that led me to go for the crosstrek instead of the impreza with a 5spd.
Christian Smith yes way more engaging.
I'm interested in a manual Crosstrek. What rpm is the engine at when you're doing 70 mph on the highway in 6th gear? Thanks.
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I chose Subaru because they offered a family-size car with a manual.
My biggest factor in choosing the Crosstrek over the Impreza was the extra three inches or so of ride height. It makes a difference for egress.
Finally a Professional reviewer!
Got my manual 2018 Crosstrek. Im a happy boy.
After this video I decided to buy my Subaru Crosstrek 2018 with manual transmission- no regrets ever since!
Save the manuals!! Can’t wait for mine to come in a week🤤🤤
Did you order a new one?
Just ordered a 2021 base model in 6MT because I hate moonroofs, 18" wheels, CVT and fog lights.
Solid roof is lifetime trouble free, 17" rims will allow more rubber on the wheels, manual transmission will be trouble free forever and no fog lights only mean I will have one set of bulbs less to think of replacing.
Nothing really beats the base model.
When are car manufacturers going to stop de-contenting manual transmission cars in the American market?!? We should at least be able to get those tech options individually with a manual trans instead of having to get the most expensive package.
I ignore so many otherwise nice cars because they're not available in a manual. It's usually the first thing I look at.
I saw that too; a loaded to the hilt w/options limited to make it look nice and a no option premium w/manual to make it look like a base model...it's almost as if they (Subaru) do that on purpose to drive you into the next level up and make you feel as if you'll have buyer's remorse if you don't spring for all the do-dads in the upper trim...it's bad enough you can't get both black and platinum colored interiors choices in all colors in lower trims; that is what turned us off from the Forester and we did not have the budget for the XT
turbo311 because manufacturers usually only do that for base subcompact cars
This one checks off everything in my list EXCEPT for the lack of power. I hope Subaru at least considers offering an option for a turbo or a larger 4 banger - I would totally get it.
Agreed MJ, a nice 200hp four, without a turbo, would be nice.
@@frankambrose878 they should have used there 2.5 as used in outback
Still love my '17 Outback 3.6R. That thing moves.
Yes it does. Seems like it's either feast or famine with Subaru. I can't help but wonder why they don't just put the 2.5 back in the Impreza line.
My 2023 Premium 6MT seems more than adequately powered, perfect really. Most modern cars are overpowered so the Crosstrek takes a hit in comparison, but Subaru knows what they’re doing and got it right.
manual tranny, naturally aspirated, awd, great gas mileage, good ground clearance, and practical interior. It's friggin' perfect, nobody cares that it's not fast. It has enough power keep up with highway speeds, and to merge safely (perhaps with a second or two more planning than normal)
Ryan, I hope you realize the Crosstrek in manual transmission actually has a 4.444 final drive ratio, unlike your Legacy's 4.111 final drive ratio. Also, the 2nd gen Subaru XV (MY2013-2017) 5-speed manual also redlines at around 30 MPH in 1st gear, and around 60 MPH in 2nd gear just like the 3rd gen Subaru XV you drove in the video. I'm guessing the revised FB20 engine with direct injection makes it a far better drive than the old fuel-injected FB20 engine.
Love my 18 Crosstrek premium 6-speed manual. Had to sell the 13 Crosstrek because I hated the CVT!
Did you have excess oil consumption in the '13?
Recently ordered the 2023 Premium manual.
Great review. I'm going from a wrx sti, so this is going to be rough, but it's time to get practical I guess. If anything, I'll go with the manual so I can still pretend I've got some power ha.
Ditching the CVT features for the fun of manual #MadRespect
X-Mode DOES let you 'pick your speed' for hill decent. X-Mode also applies a basic downhill decent control by default, which can't be turned off, that won't let you accelerate too fast when less than 10% throttle is being applied. Reviewer appears to only be using that option and not using the cruise option to set speed.
This was a great, comprehensive review. Thank you!
Excellent review, I want take a look to the new engine upgrade version this year.
Thanks for the comparison. I am still debating about the make/model of my upcoming purchase, but if it is the Crosstrek, it is going to be with the 6MT, no question about it ! Certainly wish it had a spunkier motor in there, but it is what it is.
I’ve noticed Subaru drives better on rough road. Daily city driving the all wheel drive is vague. But the all wheel rides better for sure on the rain and snow. I owned 4 Subaru never look at any other competitors out there. Just love it.
They have done well with the interior now! Very nice Touchscreen and air vents. More beefy engine though! Quicker like 0-60mph in 8-9 Seconds
Look is great, ground clearance is perfect, interior is sporty, AWD is perfect for canadian winter, but the engine and transmission are totally not fun at all. I tried Mitsubishi eclipse cross, same thing. Hey, we are use to drive cars and have a minimum of feeling especially when we pay for a new car. People are asking more power and a manual transmission. Just 200 hp, 6 speed manual and that's it. Should not be as expensive.
I drove a new 2018 Crosstrek manual recently. I think it was a base model. It was such a great manual to shift! I tried out the 2018 Forester base manual just before that, and the new C-Trek is so much smoother, slicker, and easier to shift. Maybe after it's broken in the Forester gets easier as well, not sure, but overall I liked the Crosstrek better in many ways. More comfortable seats -felt like you are sitting in them, not on them. Easier to see gauges, right at eye level for me, I'm around six feet tall. Forester gauges hard for me to see, blocked by the housing that sticks out over the display. And the new Radio display is SO much nicer in the Crosstrek, and compatable with Android as well as Apple Car Play (I am pretty sure you can't use Android in the Forester). The 2019 Forester is going to be all new, so assume it will have much of the new Tech this Crosstrek has. In Forester's defense, it has a more powerful engine, bigger cargo capacity, and better visibility, especially to the rear. But If I were to buy one, I would be leaning towards the all new Crosstrek
William Barnes omg you're making me want an XTek
It's a very nice car. I didn't wind up buying one, but If I was to buy a Subaru, I would go for a Crosstrek , or wait a year for the all new Forester
No manual on the new Forester, so if you want a stick, it is Crosstrek all the way.
Perfect Places - Lorde. Good tune.
Thanks for the review. Outstanding job!
That’s it I’m getting the manual XV
great vid man, Thank you very much.
having always driven manuals reluctantly bought a cvt with 2.5L for wife. To my surprise I do like the cvt at highway speeds, not so much in town. The manual paddle shifter makes it very controlabal on everyday mountain passes, and have no problems whatsoever passing semis on 2 lanes. would still prefer a 2.5 manual crosstrek
add the 1.6 turbo from the levorg and it will have alot more buyers
With only a 170 Lb auto journalist on board it's S-L-O-W. With 2 adults, 2 children, & some gear on board - its, most likely, dangerously S-L-O-W.
I drove a 2016 Impreza 9,500 miles this summer with two kids, a top cargo box, a hatchback and front seat loaded with gear, and a big heavy articulating bike rack on the back with 3 bikes. The Subaru dealer who changed my oil and rotated tires halfway through the trip in Ontario Canada said he'd never seen an Impreza that loaded down (the rear suspension was nearly fully compressed all the time).
That's about as slow as one of these cars is going to get. And at *no point* was it "dangerously slow". I was able to do everything I needed to do. Yeah I had to drop it into 4th and floor it on any incline whatsoever but ... I still made the whole trip with zero incidents.
Your argument has therefore been proven false :)
My 1966 volkswagen beetle had 36 horsepower and it took me everywhere for 2 years. Then my 1968 beetle had 40 horsepower.........
Learn about power to weight ratio first before stating hp numbers.
back in 2012 I test drove an impreza 2.0, my legacy 2.2 that was 13 years old was on par with it. thats the price unfortionately when ppl want econemy.... thats why i went with the fat 2.5i motor and get 28 highway
Slow? For real everyday use, its fine. Oh hang on, perhaps you have big ego, need to do fast overtake or beat someone off at the lights.
Nice review Ryan!
I frequently drive my granddaughters Sentra with a CVT and I’m never in a hurry. Give it 2000rpm and it goes and gets to 40mph; Our main roads speed limit. It works just fine so the Subaru can’t be any worse.
Thanks. You just sold me on a 6MT next time. Probably will shoot for the 2020 model year. That's the last one before refresh right?
I would have appreciate to see the review out of the tarmac with the MT and see how it compares with the CVT with Xmode. That missing option with the manual, added to the lack of power, are what stops me from buying it.
Great video.... I would get a 6-speed Premium too...
(...ooopps then i lose "X-Mode")
I'm not buying a new vehicle for at least a few more years, but when I do, if it's still available with a 6 speed manual I will be considering a Crosstrek. I will not own any flavor of slushbox, CVT or otherwise!
"It's getting warm in here" 71 degrees? REALLY? Come to central Florida where it's 90+ degrees and 90% humidity for 6 months.
Exactly why we don't live in Florida.
Mark Messier yeah no shit. I was thinking the same thing. Lol that's winter here in Florida.
Yeah. That was def a weird response. 71° is not bad.
I guess opening a window was out of the question!!
Why don't you move then?
Love this video! Thank you :)
Just bought one from Kelly Subaru in Chattanooga Tennessee for my wife love it for the money
After being an owner of a cvt, man i tell you i,ll go straight to the manual option.
Nicely done, great review thanks!
So I changed to CVT since my last comment, and I utterly prefer it to manual. I feel no lack of power, appreciate the mpg, and x mode is fantastic on steep dirt roads. Again, I use it to get wwhere I need to, in the most predictable way possible. Of course, manual was more fun, but for me Crosstrek is practicality in the first place. I think, for fun, better buy an Impreza anyways.
Excellent review!
Thanks for this video. Woke up thinking about trading my 2018 Crosstrek. Won't.
Unfortunately my Sentra just broke so I had to get a new car. and price being the most important thing I got the HRV with the six-speed manual and that completely transforms that car to being fun. basically drives like a fit on stilts I've owned a fit loved it and this is basically 15% more car with the six-speed so I'm glad to see that manufactures still offer 6-speed and that they're still fun to drive. more so than the CVT could ever be.
The appearance of the HRV and Crosstrek are pretty significant. You can tell Subaru put more time into the design. My opinion at least.
Loved my 2nd gen Fit Sport MT, but wanted something bigger, safer, and Awd. We were primarily looking at the HRV and new Crosstrek as the perfect size, but not overly enthused about the HP/Mpgs in CVT or MT form. Decided to pay a little more for a luxurious safety laden bigger more powerful turbo AWD CR-V that got the same mpgs. CVT isn't as fun, but I still have an old Prelude SH for fun. If only the HRV or Crosstrek had a small boosted engine for more HP and Mpgs and you could get em in AWD and stick...
Trailgnome adventures CVT's are garbage. There isn't one manufacturer who doesn't have problem after problem with cvt's. That extra 2mpg compared to the standard auto isn't worth the replacement transmission down the road. It honestly makes me sick that every company continues to put these pieces of shit in cars even though they know they are terrible.
I've never had a problem, 123000 miles
i got 53 mpg going from Gastonia NC to columbia SC and coming back on 1 tank of gas and I still had below half a tank of gas when it was all said and done
71 degrees? OMG! It's like the Sahara Desert.
The Crosstrek just needs the European Subaru diesel engine with 250 foot pounds of torque for off road or highway.
Yes Sure No, diesels are on the way out, petrol although not as much torque is so much more enjoyable to drive, the sound the feel, please just forget diesel. Dinosaur fuel.
Diesels are offered by many European companies and they are clean burn. It is all Dinosaur fuel.
'Petrol' is a misused word. It is an abbreviation of Petroleum There are dozens and dozens of petroleum products including gasoline and diesel.
Yes Sure Yes, I was just making the point from the UK, keeping it simple between the two main fuels for cars over here. Thank you.
And the 2 main fuels are diesel and gasoline not petrol ;) wink wink
Yes Sure Im in the UK we dont call it gasoline over here, thanks anyway.
Thanks for the suberb and thorough review.
Didn't see you driving the cvt with the paddle shifters, you can keep the revs up just as you mentioned with the manual. I love having the option for automatic in traffic, and staying on the on the power curve in the twisties in the manual mode cvt. I drove manual cars for 40 years, before finally getting my cvt 2018 Crosstrek, and I am not missing them.
I've driven manual for 13 years and my new(er) car is a Mazda 6 automatic and I must say I agree that there are times I have thought "Boy I'm glad I'm not driving a manual right now" even though I do miss the direct drive of a manual. Do you know if the Crosstrek locks up the torque converter in manual mode? I have been thinking if it is direct drive in the fixed ratios in manual mode it wouldn't be so bad.
Great review, thanks a lot!
Crosstrek XT would be pretty sweet. Judging by the way the Forester XT ditched the 5spd in 2009, though, I'm confident a Crosstrek XT would only be a CVT.
My only vehicle currently is a 2020 Tacoma TRD Offroad which gets 19 MPG, so I'm thinking about picking up a used Crosstrek Premium manual as a daily driver because I drive about 500 miles per week and 30 MPG is appealing. Now that they offer a SIX speed instead of the outdated 5 speed, it's definitely a more desirable package. I just want to make sure there is no oil consumption issue with the engine before I buy one, but overall it's a great all-weather vehicle for the price.
The thing is, I shopped the pre-owned market and a two-year-old two owner 40,000 mile-plus example was pretty close to the price of a brand-new one.
The ones significantly lower price were rebuilt or flood damage titles.
@@5610winston The bottom has dropped out of the used vehicle market and prices are falling fast. Mainly due to higher interest rates which are suppressing demand. I think you'll find the prices are going down if you look now.
@@dlg5485 Already got my order in and a non-refundable deposit down on a 2023 Premium six-speed three weeks ago.
great review, also any sand and mud with the manual?
Seeing him switching gear on the highway tells me why automatic exits for the right reason.
I have had a 2.0 MT turbo diesel. Real power, and real fun to drive. However off-road (where I use it a lot) it is quite helpless whatever strange it may sound. Although the diesel engine's even torque helps on steep dusty-tracks or in deep mud, a CVT with petrol can perform much better. It may be a fun to play with the slipping clutch, but it smells like hell, and sooner or later kills it. I'll change back to CVT.
If you love driving then it definitely a manual, if you just want to enjoy the drive then its definitely a CVT.
I want to have a car I can drive, not one that drives me.
The first car I ever drove was a three-on-the-tree '51 Studebaker (ancient, even when I was learning) and I have never bought an automatic, never will.
Manual transmission is way better than the boring automatic.
Tulugung Gunggung it depends if you live in the city and you get stock in traffic jams all the time is not the best option tho
John Go no cares about how a car drives and handle it's all about mpg sad.......
John Go ....but if you have the auto then you can text and check your Instagram better while driving 😂
Too many have forgotten how engaging a manual is and how it connects you back to the car.
John Go says other guy got triggered, then goes on to write a fucking books worth of shit talking. And yeah, reading anything into someone’s transmission preference is being a complete tool.
Subaru needs to dump the CVT and PUT in a 7 or 8 speed automatic.
In the UK we get CVT only, but I love the car so it will have to do :)
I dont understand why the FB25 hasn't been used in the Crosstrek? Still capable of great economy but with an extra boost in power and torque! Subaru!! Please!!!!
Just ordered my 2020 6speed 🤠
I got one ordered as well... Orange too 😍
@@gurl2fine1 mine is black premium 6manual. Won't be here till February though, I almost picked orange but went with black in the end. When does yours arrive?
@@nomadmav7040 I ordered it Nov the 19th and I still haven't heard anything yet. I'm getting super antsy lol. Yeah black is a good color you can do more personalization with it, nothing really goes with orange except black or white lol.
@@gurl2fine1 have you contacted your dealer? She/He should have an time frame? I live in a small town NorCal so maybe it's different here.
Is yours a manual? That is why mine is taking so long.
Hmm yeah I guess you've got black, maybe bronze? White, more orange, oh and actually OD Green looks good with orange. Personal opinion though
@@nomadmav7040 yeah I have been keeping in touch with the dealer they said an estimated wait would be 90 days. Yeah I got the 6 speed too. I bet your right about that being the reason its taking longer. I live in Johnson City TN it's kinda big but not like a big city you would see on TV lol. I'll have to try that green out with orange and see how it looks.
oh yes I'm getting this in a manual. if in the right position, an STI on the side. right now I have a 2018 WRX.
You are not going to see a powerful car with a CVT transmission. It just can’t handle it!