Game & Talk - Kingdom Death Monster
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- Опубліковано 5 вер 2024
- The Dice Tower plays through and discusses the first scenario in Kingdom Death: Monster.
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Definitely like the effort for a better production. PLEASE MORE OF THIS! ❤️
Agree, this is fantastic. Next level
Absolutely!!!
This is so entertaining....I wish this was a whole new series. Play until you lose or win. Would be amazing. Especially if you showed a little more of the Settlement phase and the hunt phase. The Showdown phase was perfect in this video. There is for sure more to the game than the tutorial gives you, but I am sure there will be many posts about that. Just want to say thank you again because the showdown phase you all showed was one of the most entertaining watch it plays you have done imho.
Yep if you do continue I hope you don't super speed through the settlement phase and the events. The settlement development is as much a part of the story as the crazy stuff that happens in combat.
I'm not sure how at this stage you have obtained an item you can't use? You have full control over what you produce and all the weapons and armour do at least something.
Yea I just want to see more hunt and settlement phase, I think those phases tell better stories.
Also mentioned this already but the part of the game that they didn’t like the rules for is that they didn’t get any major upgrades and therefore too much grinding. This is because they played the rules wrong and didn’t get the regular resources for being the Lion. They should have gotten 8 pieces which would have been enough to gear up.
agree, this is frustraing considering their dislike of the perceived "grind" and entirely missing out on how the hunt phase can radically change the fight that follows it.
Im all for them not liking this game, but at the very least you need to use the rules as written.
Agree. Looking forward to part 2!
I like the format, reminds me of the Wil Wheton tabletop series! Just remember to get those 4 forgotten basic resources you didn't get there!
It makes a huge difference to have 8 resources after the first prologue fight, not just the 4 White Lion resources. You should all have some sort of weapon for the second fight with those 8 resources. Also the fights get more complicated as they go on, players get different fighting arts to differentiate how they fight, and the bosses get extra abilities that you want to plan against.
Edit, and for future plays if you do those, the settlement phase, the settlement event and discussions what to upgrade / build are some of the best parts of the game. Please don't cut those out!
KDM super fan here. First of all this was really fun and entertaining to watch and I hope you guys play it a couple more times. The production that Chris did was absolutely well done on his part. Ill mention a few things that you guys may have missed (or it might have gotten edited out) or simply may be helpful for future runs:
1- FIELD OF VIEW AND INTIMIDATE : field of view is every spot on the map EXCEPT the survivors in the blindspot. (The intimidate size up ai card that the white lion did should not have been able to target the blue haired survivor, or the survivor next to the blue haired as potential targets for his random die roll) 16:54 - 17:05 .
The way AI cards work is first you determine the target based on the top section of the ai card, then you do whatever is stated on the bottom side of the card. The reason size up (and other intimidate actions) are tricky is because the targeting is not followed by (move & attack) like most ai cards, and you do not need to be adjacent to the target to do the action. Simply after determining your target the card says to. "turn to face the target" and do etc etc. In this scenario 16:54 what he should have done is:
a- Randomly target yellow or brown haired survivor based on a die roll as they are the only ones in his field of view.
b- Turn to face target and intimidate them (regardless of how far they are, the monster is simply staring down his prey) by rolling a 1d10
2- GRAB: when you are grabbed you are placed in front of the monster knocked down and suffer x damage to a random hit location (roll hit location die) where x is the level of the monster (in your case that is 1 damage). This damage cannot be dodged 18:40 - 19:10
3- KNOCK DOWN AND STANDING: You stand up at the end of the next monster's turn. This means if you are knocked down on the survivor's turn you will be standing by the beginning of the next survivor's turn. However, if you were knocked down on the monster's turn, you will remain knocked down as your next turn comes as survivors stand up at the end of the NEXT monster turn. On the otherhand, monsters always stand up at the start of their turn
4- AFTERMATH / SCAVENGING when you scavenge the monster for resources you were supposed to get 4 white lion resources (gold deck) and 4 basic resources (blackish grey deck). This should help you build a few more gear than you probably did as the next lion is a bit tougher.
5- SURVIVAL ACTIONS RESTRICTIONS: you cannot use any survival actions during your own attack (you are apparently too preoccupied with attacking to dodge)
6 - SURVIVAL ACTIONS WHILE KNOCKED DOWN : the only thing you can do while knocked down is the dodge survival action (unless a gear or ability states otherwise)
7- COLLISION: if the monster moves through a survivor (collision) that survivor is simply knocked down. Additionally, if the monster lands on a survivor (also referred to as collision), the survivor is knocked down, as well as knocked back 5 steps in the direction in which the monster was moving into. In both instances you suffer no damage unless stated otherwise. If there is an object/edge of the board less than 5 steps in the direction you are knocked back into, simply stop in the space before that object/edge. If you were at the edge of the board/object when the knockback x occured, slide across either side x (your choice) x steps.
I do want to mention that regarding strategy and tactical decisions you do need to give it time. As you get more gear, unlock new skills fighting arts weapon proficiencies, innovations etc.. There will be A LOT to think about. The settlement phase can take over an hour just thinking of what combinations of gear you want to place on which survivor and which of those survivors should you take on this next specific hunt. It really does feel like you are building/creating a big civilisation
This also applies to combat as your turns will get longer and more thinkier in how you approach the monster, with whom, which weapon, what skills and etc. with many ways to mitigate the RNG
If you guys only plan on giving it one more go, you probably will miss out on most of these decisions which is unfortunate but understandable if you are just not into these longer, slow buildup games. But if you play a couple more lantern years, the strategy of the game will definitely start emerging, the decisions will be much more engaging and based on what I've seen, I think you guys will probably enjoy it.
Please up vote/ get this comment to the top. This was so fun to watch and I think the more this group plays the more they will discover. That's where the love for KDM comes from. The discovery of each settlements' story. It is literally a very dark dnd where you enter your own story while the game handles the random events and thematics.
Would you recommend this for solo play? I want a substantial campaign game but I’m torn between Middara, oathsworn, Aeon Trespass and possibly Frosthaven?my thoughts are this must be an awesome game is it’s made it to v1.6!
@@mendicant1981 have you tried gloomhaven before? As for aeon trespass ive yet to get reveive my order but from what ive heard people are loving it even more than kdm and that says alot. Since kdm is really well done.
Both of em are definitely suitable for solo play. Id pick whichever is easier for you to get your hands on, or whicever theme speaks to you most
@@adelfaidah3224 Hi, thanks for the reply. I do own Gloomhaven and it’s great but the “world building” and story was weak for me, although I hear it’s much better in Frosthaven. I like the art and sexiness of KDM (very not pc and 2022 so gets a thumbs up from me!), so I think I may go for that, plus it’s actually in stock in the Uk! Are the addons etc important to enjoy the game? Many of them are US only
@@mendicant1981 hey no worries at all.
Right i kinda share the same sentiment as you with gloomhaven. Love the gameplay, not too keen on the story or lore. Kdm isnt narrative heavy at all, but its emergent storytelling is really fun!
Add ons are definitely not needed untill uve played a fair amount and want some variety of monsters.
My first add on was added after 50+ hours of gameplay
⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ This is the most pro-looking/feeling content DT has ever put out. Chris has done an excellent job. Shades of TableTop.
More please, you guys need to do a lot more of this. I watch pretty much everything DT but this was a cut above.
wanted to jump in, but have nothing, should I wait for this year's black friday? or should I buy the mark up on ebay? will all gameplay content be available in this year's black Friday preorder ?
Tom do not forget to draw 4 basic resources! This will allow to build more gear in settlement phase and therefore change a little bit the next showdown. This video was very enjoyable!
Yeah! I'm glad someone mentioned this! Hopefully, Tom sees this. Only drawing 4 white lion ones certainly will make the settlement phase kind of .... lackluster.
Now this is the right way to comment! Not just to be negative. Like to see it.
"One of the things that kept me from wanting to play KDM was the gore," he says while wearing a blood-soaked tie.
Hahahaha! I didn’t notice till you said it.
This is a fantastic format. Wonderful job by Chris!
Wil Wheaton's "Tabletop" series is what led me and my family to this incredible hobby, and through watching related videos I stumbled into DT and landed there. The personalities and experience on display at the DT make me keep coming back for more. To see you guys pushing the envelope and making, what I know, is a very demanding Tabletop-style production really excites me. I know you can't do it all the time, but this is the perfect marriage of everything that brought me into this hobby. Thanks so much for putting this one together! I enjoyed it immensely.
I had a really similar experience to you when it came to discovering the hobby and the Dice Tower. It was great being able to work on this with this group of people and make something in really proud of. Glad you enjoyed!
Chris Yi, you are the man. Hope to see more of this format and/or more of this next level editing.
Give Chris a raise!
I know this was a lot of editing work for Chris, but I really enjoyed this new play and talk format as a nice change up. I like the commentary from players/reviewers within the edited game play in 'real time' as a fresh approach for Dice Tower. Even if you only do it monthly or such, as you said in the wrap party, I'd look forward to them. Thumbs up!
DT vs KDM : one of the most legendary beefs in the board game world has officially been squashed
Wow the production quality of this video was amazing!
What an edit! Huge shout to Chris for that, music was great.
Camilla is a huge addition to the team.
I'd love to see part 2 of this.
Probably watch 200+ DT vids a year and you could count comments I make on 1 hand. Just had to say this is hands down one of the best things I've watched in ages, real tabletop vibes and the time just flew. Really enjoyable engaging content
This was very fun to watch! I don't know if it's possible, but I feel like this could be a fun mini series playing KDM. I would love to see more! Either way this was a great video. Chris and everyone did a fantastic job.
Wow this was very entertaining. I would've never expected that Kingdom Death of all games would receive this treatment in the Dice Tower. Very cool!
This was great to watch. Zee was so damn funny. Like others have said great production and editing. I'm in an opposite time zone so couldn't watch the stream but I would have loved to see the whole thing. Please add the extended play.
You can choose which order your hit location cards are resolved, it matters a lot more reactions. A few other rule misses but entertaining and enjoyable!
Definitely a fan of this style. Will Wheaton’s table top got me into board gaming so would be great to see DT make a similar type show. Great first step and very fun to just see the highlights. Maybe have Tom narrate the game itself like a story to tell us what’s happening/winning?
I was getting total tabletop vibes the entire time
Please please please keep Game & Talk. This is exactly the content I've been looking for!
So happy to see the Dice Tower in a "TableTop" format!
This format is awesome! Game and Talk is wonderful. Great editing, Chris!
Absolutely primo editing on this video. I think it makes the whole thing. Incredible job, Chris!
this is the best thing i have seen in a long time! I really hope you guys do more with this type of series.
Well done, Chris! The production level on this is significantly higher than what I've seen previously on the channel. Almost like Tabletop is back in production. I'm sure it took a lot longer than most people will expect. Outstanding!
Love the series/style. I know it is a lot of work. Thanks Chris- nice work
I vote for more play throughs with this level of production.
Huge fan of this style of game overview/review/chat. Love “in game” feedback and the way this was edited. This feels a bit like Tabletop which we need more of
This was so awesome!! If there's a possibility to show the settlement fase, at least the new cards and shops and what you buy/make.
This is probably some of my favorite content you've done. Whether KDM or any other game I really enjoy this style of video. It was very reminiscent of Table Top, which is a niche that's been sorely lacking in boardgame content since they stopped doing it. The length was spot on, it's better than just watching a raw minute-by-minute playthrough of the game, I like the interviews between turns. excellent content. more please!
Wow, loved everything about this! So entertaining and fun, great job on the production and the cast is great as always. Hopefully there will be more :)
I love this format! Please do more! Especially of Kingdom Death Monster!!!
Nicely done! I truly appreciate all the work by the players, the production, and the editing. It was awesome!
This format is AWESOME! Thanks so much for making this!
This is so awesome, would LOVE a series like this. Thanks some much Chris and DT crew for the hard work, it shows!
really liked the new format. the game is mysterious enough and was filled with good text and actions.
also the quality of the camera for the interview close camera was really good, the depth and sharpness it creates is really pleasant. hope you do more!
This was amazing. Your editor is a hero.
I really hope that you all give this game some more time. All of your initial criticisms are spot on. It is juvenile, it is gridy, and getting items that do nothing feels terrible. That being said, learning how to fight the horrible critter of Kingdom Death is an absolute delight. The more you fight them, the better you're able to exploit the weaknesses built into their attacks and hit locations. It can be a lot of fun, but it is highly dependent on the group. Can't speak to how much fun y'all are having but watching you play was a delight.
Love this higher production quality. Also, if they actually finish a full campaign I'd be so pumped to watch the whole thing. The game has it's flaws but it's one of the most unique and rewarding games of all time.
It's pretty much guaranteed they won't finish a campaign on their first playthrough
The first 11 years of the campaign are pretty brutal in general. The last 19 years have brutal nemesis fights.
@@christopherlarter4386 Yeah I meant more if they learn the game well and ACTUALLY play a full campaign. Tom and Zee don't seem like the types to stick with it, though.
The editing here was great. Kudos. More of this!
This was one of my very favorite videos the Dice Tower has ever produced!!! I loved the production and how it was edited. The interview sections spliced in were very entertaining. I WANNA SEE PART TWO!!!
Part 2 please!
Wonderful production and it was cool that you shouted everyone out even the painter.
Wow! I can only imagine how time-consuming this video was. I hope it was worth it because I throughly enjoyed this format. We were drawn into the hobby by Wil Wheaton’s Tabletop series (which led to discovering Dice Tower) and this was a great echo of that approach. I really enjoy the interviews, the editing, and the truncated play through. Killmilla is my new hero. Zeevil is hilarious.. Devilisimo make some rewind to catch his quick wit. Tom is always on point. Chris Yi is an excellent editor (but we already knew that;). THANK YOU!
This was so good! Worth every hour in the editing room, awesome job! Even the music. Had a blast watching this
You can pick the order in which you resolve hit locations. I did enjoy the editing. Bra Mithra has some good full play throughs for those looking to see a whole play through.
“I want to do cool things right now; not have to pinch a lion to death.”
- Zee
Great video. Would love to see more of this kind of gameplay and recap in the future and not just for KDM.
Extremely well-edited, Chris! Kept so much fun banter, really good pacing, and the mechanical gameplay elements were understandable with the dice rolls and cards popping up on screen alongside Tom's rules explanations. Cutting away to player interviews was fun. The emotion of the players and fun of the game really was on display.
This was definitely the best produced DT video I've ever saw. Bravo to everybody involved (especially Chris)!
This was fantastic! Loved this format, please do more like it for other games!
Very TableTop-esque… I like it. Could this be what’s more in store with the studio expansion? Hmmmm…
Really well edited, Chris. This style of video is very entertaining especially with the “tabletop“-like interviews throughout.
Love the format! So much fun to watch. Great job everyone!
Copying the Tabletop format really worked here. Probably the most interesting Dice Tower play through I’ve seen even not being particularly interested in the game.
Very well done production with the camera work and editing. The interviews, dice on screen, and music were a great touch. Would like to see more of this style video, regardless of the game!
This was exciting to watch - not because the game is any good, but because of you all bringing the excitement and fun - greatly enjoyed!
OMG! This is so good. Please do more play-throughs using this format.
This was excellent. Had some very welcome Tabletop vibes, nice production, and I'm glad that watching this was my first introduction to what this game is and a bit of how it plays.
Bring on more videos of different games in this format, if possible! Really great addition to the Dice Tower content repertoire.
Great production on this. Good editing and a cool way to get a glimpse into a game like this.
This was great. I think this format definitely benefits from having people that don’t know exactly what to expect, might not be their typical game type they like, but are still able to enjoy the journey.
Great job Dice Tower! Always been a huge fan of all your content except for the play throughs. This gives me hope that in the future I can enjoy those as well!
Since this one was so well received, we're going to look into making some more ofthese happen. They won't be as regular as the live play-throughs since these took a LOT more time in post-production. We do our best to make the live ones fun, entertaining, and good quality as well, but ther will always be a difference. But I think hanging out with the live chat can help make those pretty fun! Thanks for watching.
I need mooooar!!!
Really guys, great work with this (I hope) new series. Can't wait for more.
Love this! Chris did a great job editing. Really entertaining. Let's do more!
Excellent format. Really interesting approach to looking into a game without 1) Reviewing it or 2) Doing a very long walk-through. Excellent job guys.
This was an AMAZING play through! I would watch every one of your play throughs if they were like this 🤩
I love this! The talking heads at the beginning are great 😁
Never played KDM But I have to say, this was one of the most entertaining dice tower videos I’ve watched. Really enjoyed the way this was presented. Nice job crew!
This is probably your best work in years!
Excellent video!
Chris edited this? You guys scored with him. I think this is the best built video dice tower has ever done. Pat your back Chris.
That means a lot. Thank you! And to everyone else saying nice things about the video. Very happy how it all turned out, and everyone made it a great time.
Hi! I wanna join the chorus of comments that really liked the format!
I found it very well edited, I really like that we also get the important elements of the rules, the first impressions at the end of the episode and that I get to discover a heavy game through breezy 20-minute gameplay of it with many visual inserts of the components, cutaways, and an entertaining commentary.
This format is amazing please give us more
I can't even imagine how much work went into this but it paid off. Well done.
Great video, best KD early gameplay I've seen so far on UA-cam!
Hope you'll make part 2.
I really like this format and hope to see more. Especially nice to see the higher production effort.
Chris is a Wizard with the editing… lol great job
Loved this. More of there would be great.
this was so great - well done and edited. don't normally take the time to comment, but well done. Very entertaining and here's to hoping for more.
you probably missed basic resources. the first years are some of the hardest because of the least resources you have, but its a big campaign with meaningful options going forward.
Would love to see a full series out of this
Wonderful - more please!
Absolutely loved this video. Please continue
Amazing production work on this, I happen to like the game too
Wow, the editing is great. Very funny too. Hope to see more of this type of videos in the future!
Thank you so much for doing this! It was entertaining the whole way through and looked great.
this channel is the reason my partner and I play board games
and we love KDM
from the comments it looks like a lot of people myself included would love to see more of these!
highlighting different areas of the game like
hunt event
settlement phase
monster fight
Put this on the box...
"The game where you can pinch a lion to death." - Zee Garcia 2022
Love this kind of content, we may lean how the game can flows in the table and the conversation is pretty much entertaining.
Tom , this is the best way to do your play through videos , and I’ve seen a lot of your plays . This was your best . It felt new and entertaining.
Kudos to Chris for the editing. The effort is seen and appreciated! Fun gameplay vid, too.
Just a great video! Really fun to watch!
This was great. Loved the format. Not everyone has the time or inclination to watch a 2 hour play-through.The improved production values were worth it. This is how things should be done. Turn this FORMAT into a series (but give it a catchier name)
I really like the idea of this series. A little rough around the edges, but keep working at it; this is great!
You have to get as far as fighting the bird! It's genius!
Or even the antelope - the way the different AI decks work and subsequently how different the monsters feel is quite impressive.
@@duncancole1742 indeed, its such a shame the Lion gets all the limelight when he's by far the most vanilla encounter 😕
@@theguitarexplorium I would say that's be design though to ease you into the game.
This is great. It reminds me of the old Will Wheaton Tabletop show. Thanks and I would love to see more of this.
Loved the editing on this! I think it was perfect for covering this deeply weird boardgame that most people will never get to see in person. Looking forward to part II and maybe part III!
I like how the reviewers were able to speak separately in this video (in sort of an interview format). I like the group conversations also, but I think people have a tendency to hold back when they think others will contradict them.
This editing and production is fantastic!!
Love the production!
Much better than the live playthrough. Reminds me of why I loved Tabletop with Wil.
Awesome video. I could see a series in this style really blowing up for you guys. Nice work!
This was great! Hope to see more of this series.
great format