Karen Read Trial | Juror Interview Reveals Least Credible Witnesses

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  • @elizabethschinski1345
    @elizabethschinski1345 4 місяці тому +4

    Thank you Karen, i agree with you. Something doesn't pass the smell test, with the jury. I have always thought there was a stealth juror. The McAlberts knew, Lally knew and Bev knew. You can pretty much ask why about everything having to with this case, it's never ending. Well said and thank you; ❤🙏🇺🇲

    • @KarenColeUKLawyer
      @KarenColeUKLawyer  4 місяці тому

      @@elizabethschinski1345 Justice ⚖️ will win in the end. 💕

  • @anitafowler622
    @anitafowler622 4 місяці тому +2

    Your comments are right on. The jurors should have seen that.

  • @candiadams5512
    @candiadams5512 4 місяці тому +4

    Lally makes me so mad. 😡

    • @KarenColeUKLawyer
      @KarenColeUKLawyer  4 місяці тому +1

      @@candiadams5512 100 % But Lucky did not cave ...💕

  • @lexy2770
    @lexy2770 4 місяці тому +5

    Hi Karen
    See u in a bit!
    👍 liked & shared

    • @KarenColeUKLawyer
      @KarenColeUKLawyer  4 місяці тому

      @@lexy2770 👋 GTSU 💕 cannot wait to hear your views.

  • @nelsona8285
    @nelsona8285 4 місяці тому +2

    Just released press brief: The Norfolk County District Attorney’s Office has tapped a veteran criminal defense attorney to lead prosecutors’ retrial of Karen Read, DA Michael Morrissey announced Wednesday.
    Hank Brennan will serve as special assistant district attorney on the highly anticipated retrial, which is scheduled to begin Jan. 27.
    I smell a Plea Deal from the Defense before the trial starts in January.

    • @KarenColeUKLawyer
      @KarenColeUKLawyer  4 місяці тому

      @nelsona8285 Breaking News... thanks for heads up...💕

    • @LeanneRigby-iy7nx
      @LeanneRigby-iy7nx 3 місяці тому

      @@nelsona8285 I don’t. She didn’t hit him, she shouldn’t plead out no matter what.

  • @anitafowler622
    @anitafowler622 4 місяці тому +3

    Prosecutir was ticking him off and I don't blame Lucky for being aggravated

    • @KarenColeUKLawyer
      @KarenColeUKLawyer  4 місяці тому +1

      💯

    • @anitafowler622
      @anitafowler622 4 місяці тому +2

      Sorry about editing. I was typing without glasses. I get frustrated and have to comment.

    • @KarenColeUKLawyer
      @KarenColeUKLawyer  4 місяці тому +2

      @@anitafowler622 Typos are accepted on our comments. 😆 🤣 sometimes I am amazed to see what I typed after I push send. It must be because predictive text is on. 💕

  • @coffeecake1803
    @coffeecake1803 4 місяці тому +2

    Great commentary!

  • @lindawilliams2276
    @lindawilliams2276 4 місяці тому +3

    I sure agree with your logic. How can the citizens of Norfolk county advocate for the Judge Bev be investigated since she knew some of the crucial witnesses and showed her bias ?

  • @anitafowler622
    @anitafowler622 4 місяці тому +2

    I believe absolutely Lucky.

  • @anitafowler622
    @anitafowler622 4 місяці тому +2

    The prosecutor was pinning him down to tight.

  • @HappySheet
    @HappySheet 4 місяці тому +2

    3 Things:
    1. These Jurors clearly didn't listen, bc Lucky clearly stated that he Reported the Basketball Hoop Incident, but didn't Report the Albert's Ford Edge that was Illegally Parked at 330a, where subsequently John O'Keefe would be Found mere Hours later, bc he was cutting them a Break by not Reporting them Parking their Vehicle on the Street of a Snow Route ahead of a Blizzard. Lucky's only mistake was not Reporting those Turds, but Hindsight is 20/20. However, he DID Report the 1 Incident & out of the 12 Jurors picked to Deliberate, 0 could adequately recall Lucky's Testimony & what he did or didn't Report.
    #2. Take a look at John's Shirt that's shown during the Trial & take Note of the Direction of the Blood Stain... The Stain is showing a downward Flow of Blood from John's Injuries that wouldn't happen if he was laying Prone (Face Down on the Ground). The Stain is reminiscent of John Sitting up while actively Bleeding, allowing the Blood to run in an Active downward Direction die to Gravity. Then when you Factor in the Alcohol, the Head Wound (which Bleed ALOT w/out Blood Thinning Alcohol in his System) would've made any Wounds a Siv (sp?), especially the Head Wound, especially in a Nice, Warm House in the Warm House. However B once put out in the Cold the Bleeding would've Slowed, which's exactly why that Area if Flooring in the Basement needed to be Torn up & Replaced (that wasn't bc of Water Damage). Then, there's the Dual Black Eyes & Blood coming from his Nose, from obviously Sustaining a Broken Nose, as well, It's been said that the Dual Black Eyes were from the Fractured the Fractured Skull, but I think it was a Combo of Skull Fracture, Broken Nose & being put Face Down on the Ground.
    Based on the Blood Strain Pattern on John's Shirt, I 100% believe he was sat/propped up & his head would've most likely Naturally tipped Forward due to being Unconscious, while he was still Actively Bleeding & it was probably Heavily, which caused the Blood to run down his Shirt his Head & Neck, over his Shoulder & down the Front, which seemed to be Concentrated more towards, I believe, the Right Chest Area of his Shirt. Whereas, had he actually been hit, the Blood would've pooled underneath his Head & away from his Shirt...
    I wouldn't doubt if he he was Punched in the Face & either A. He tripped backwards falling or B. Chloe Jumped up & Latched onto his Arm knocking him over & he Hit the back of his head on a Barbell & he remained in an Upright Seated Position where he got that specific Blood Stain on his Shirt or B. After he was injured he was Propped up in a Shower to keep the Blood localized somewhere that could be Bleached & Cleaned up & where they could clean him up to make it look like he hasn't been Beaten up & due to being propped up w/ his head hanging down towards his Chest that's how he ended up w/ Vomit inside of his Boxers.
    Which, I can't remember if the Defense touched on that Detail, but I hope they did & if they didn't, I think that would've been an Important Detail to Share. Bc, IF Karen had hit & Killed John, there's no plausible way that Vomit could've gotten into his Boxers. Which is why I believe he threw up on himself while propped up in a Tub/Shower & Most was Washed away, but some made it into his Boxers that was Missed. Speaking of which, if he had Vomit in his Boxers, where did he Vomit? He didn't Commit at the Waterfall, or in Karen's Car, None was Found on the Lawn, so like the 3 Liters of Blood that's Missing, where'd the Vomit go, too?
    #3. Jen McCabe's Phone Calls that were Recorded onto John's VM through Karen's Phone... After Jen's 911 Call where she states that they Flipped John over to administer CPR, which indicates to me that when he was thrown on the Lawn, it was Prone (Face Down), not Supine (Face Up) & that would've caused additional Facial Swelling & Bruising around the Eyes... Anyhow, after 911 she makes another call to, I believe, her Sister Nicole, who was inside 34 Fairview & it wasn't too make sure Nicole, Brian & Brian Jr were Ok, that Call consisted of Jen saying ONLY 5 Words when Nicole answered - "Help is on the way". This is my #1 Reason for believing EVERYONE inside of 34 Fairview, especially Jen, Brian & Nicole knew EXACTLY what happened to John, Where it happened, When it happened, Why it happened, How he got outside & Who Killed John, bc when Nicole answered, she didn't ask Jen Why she was calling her at Dawn & when Jen said those 5 Words to Nicole - "Hello is on the way", Nicole didn't feel the need to ask Jen any Follow up Questions like "Help is on the way Where, for Who & Why?", "What happened?", "Are you Ok?!" Nicole asked NOTHING & Jen didn't need to elaborate further on those 5 Words, bc THEY ALL KNEW WHY HELP WAS ON THE WAY!
    THE MCALBERTS ARE GUILTY GUILTY GUILTY!!!
    #JusticeForJohnOKeefe #FKR #JusticeForKaren #FRead #JusticeForTurtleBoy

    • @KarenColeUKLawyer
      @KarenColeUKLawyer  4 місяці тому +1

      Amazing critical thinking... yes of course if Nicole knew nothing...she would have... ask...help is the way for who. ? 💕

    • @LeanneRigby-iy7nx
      @LeanneRigby-iy7nx 3 місяці тому

      @@HappySheet All of this ⬆️!! Exactly! 👍

  • @dji9424
    @dji9424 4 місяці тому +1

    I have to wonder how the jury could be so dense that they didn't view Lucky as a credible witness. Couldn't they see just how hard ADA Lally was working to accuse Lucky of not knowing when he started his route? Couldn't they understand that if Lucky is certain of the time and also certain he did not see a body present at 2:45 am, that Karen Read could not have struck John O'Keefe with her SUV and Lally's case is rank garbage?
    I agree with you, the defense should have sought his time card from that morning, because if he truly did clock in (punch in) at approximately 2:20 am, the Prosecution's case would have been exposed as a 100% frame up of Karen Read. Lucky was completely honest in his responses, he was not hiding anything. However, ADA Lally had an air of desperation in his voice that should have been obvious to the jurors, if they were paying attention. Unfortunately, that was not the case.

    • @KarenColeUKLawyer
      @KarenColeUKLawyer  4 місяці тому

      @dji9424 Well said. Lally kept hammering in on that start time. I wonder if Lucky didn't remember the time he hit the basketball hoop, because he dealt with it. But he had to kept checking fairview, as he knew that was a main road.

    • @dji9424
      @dji9424 4 місяці тому +2

      @@KarenColeUKLawyer I agree, the incident with the basketball hoop was reported as required and there was no reason for him to think any more about it since it was fully addressed. His memory of when he started his route would be the most accurate of any of his time estimates that day because it had been communicated to him by his supervisor and Lucky was a very conscientious employee. If he was told to come in at 2:30 am, he would be sure to come in with enough time to check his truck and be ready to plow at 2:30 am.
      ADA Lally was not actually seeking Lucky's testimony; instead, he was trying to testify for him with all his leading and compound questions. Lucky is a simple and honest man and he had no reason to offer anything but the truth, which he did. It was utterly shameful for Lally to question him as he did, it was a disgusting performance.

    • @KarenColeUKLawyer
      @KarenColeUKLawyer  4 місяці тому

      @@dji9424 Beautifully said and I am impressed we are on the same wavelength in coming to the same logical thinking. 💕

    • @mitch6969123
      @mitch6969123 4 місяці тому +2

      I think some jurors dismissed lucky’s testimony because they might of already had their minds made up due to other evidence. Or didn’t remember what he said because they can not read the transcript and didn’t take good enough notes of his testimony so they dismissed it.

    • @KarenColeUKLawyer
      @KarenColeUKLawyer  4 місяці тому

      @mitch6969123 That a lot of makes sense. Stats show jury's make up their mind very early in a case... or they at least have a leaning toward one side. 💕

  • @anitafowler622
    @anitafowler622 4 місяці тому +2

    I thought he was one of the best witnesses.

  • @johnedwards546
    @johnedwards546 3 місяці тому +1

    Why is nobody talking about POLICE OFFICER BARROW.

    • @KarenColeUKLawyer
      @KarenColeUKLawyer  3 місяці тому

      @johnedwards546 hi great comment. I do cover his testimony in ( in this video Watch "Karen Read Defense Team is Doubling Down in Reply Motion to Dismiss as More Juror's Speak Out" on UA-cam ua-cam.com/video/Ml0PwwCDfqk/v-deo.htmlsi=6ooCNja8GrWh-Eid

  • @anitafowler622
    @anitafowler622 4 місяці тому +1

    Colors at night are difficult to tell. I just don't get why the jurors were skeptical. I saw a difference between waking someone at 3 am to move a xar as opposed to property damage of a goal.

    • @KarenColeUKLawyer
      @KarenColeUKLawyer  4 місяці тому +1

      @anitafowler622 Plus he knew what type of car he drove.

  • @VTPSTTU
    @VTPSTTU 4 місяці тому +1

    Thanks for the video.
    That they saw Lucky Loughran as the least credible is a sad commentary on the jury system. I understand that he doesn't come across as a nuclear physicist, but he comes across as an honest man. Even with discrepancies between what the troopers said that he said and what he's saying as a witness, he seems honest. Even if I thought that the troopers who originally interviewed him were doing their best and being honest, I would ascribe those inconsistencies to misunderstandings and not his having changed his testimony over time. I understand that the accusations and counter-accusations are causing everyone to have doubts about every point of testimony.
    To the extent that we believe that Turtleboy's idiot brigades tried to pressure people, we have some reason to doubt this testimony. If the federal government ends up prosecuting Brian Higgins or someone in the Albert family for Mr. O'Keefe's death and Mr. Loughran has to testify that that he passed the house and didn't see a body, the defense will be able to raise doubts because Turtleboy encouraged his followers to harass people. The discrepancies will make proving a case against Higgins or one of the Alberts more difficult. In the case against Ms. Read, that factor isn't as strong.
    I believe that Mr. Loughran drove past the house two or three times that night. I believe that he's being honest about not seeing Mr. O'Keefe's body on the lawn. I believe that he's being honest about seeing a Ford Edge parked along the street. He could be mistaken about either point, but I believe he's being sincere. He doesn't try to claim that he remembers every time to the exact minute, so moderate discrepancies about time are irrelevant. I have no doubt that at least one and probably both of his passes along the street were well after Ms. Read had driven home.
    If Mr. O'Keefe's body showed obvious signs of a pedestrian versus vehicle collision, I could dismiss Mr. Loughran's testimony easily enough. I could see him as an honest many who just didn't see a body that was on the lawn and was quickly covered in snow. Granted, if Mr. O'Keefe's body showed signs of a vehicle versus pedestrian collision, we'd still have to establish that Ms. Read's vehicle was the vehicle in that collision. The dishonest way that the investigators and prosecutor have handled her vehicle make me doubt any evidence that they would present. However, clear evidence of being hit by a car on the victim's body would tell me that he had been hit by a car. When the prosecution fails to produce that evidence in a clear and convincing way, then the eyewitness testimony that the body wasn't on the lawn after Ms. Read had gone home is much stronger.
    Again, that Mr. Loughran is seen as one of the least credible witnesses is a stain on the jury. I haven't seen the entire trial, but the proper list of least credible witnesses should start with Proctor. Proctor doesn't come across as honest at all. On top of that, he doesn't come across as intelligent enough to deal with evidence even if he were trying to do an honest job. The next least credible witnesses would have to the Albert guy who lived at the house, the McCabe woman, and maybe the Albert kid. I don't know where I would rank each of them in relation to one another in terms of having no credibility. I would put Brian Higgins next. He would be closely followed by Trooper Paul who seemed honest even though he is completely incompetent in accident reconstruction.

    • @KarenColeUKLawyer
      @KarenColeUKLawyer  4 місяці тому +2

      @VTPSTTU Hi Well thought out comment. This case is a who done it. And because we are still not sure, that benefit goes to the defendant.

  • @anitafowler622
    @anitafowler622 4 місяці тому +1

    I thought he was very credible and I thought the prosecution was trying to confuse the issue. I think they tried to undermine him.

  • @Jenny33333
    @Jenny33333 4 місяці тому +1

    Amazing how lally can manage to actually lawyer when asking questions of a credible witness that was very important to prove johns body wasn’t there. It’s like he was trying to lure the jury to sleep during all of his side of the case (which I feel was strategic.) the jury were looking for state to win any point because up til now none of his witnesses were credible and the defence was knocking them all down. It was like an upside down case to watch cos usually you have a view of states evidence and await the defence to try to win a point here or there. This was backwards and the jury were trying to find another theory to make it make sense why the state took a case to court when they had no case. Normally this doesn’t happen. So joe bloggs doesn’t expect to be tricked by the prosecution & used to the reputation defence have to trick a jury to get people off. People trust the law not to obscate!!

  • @LeanneRigby-iy7nx
    @LeanneRigby-iy7nx 3 місяці тому +1

    I found lucky credible. I truly think that he was the first pasty the McAlberts chose. Then they had to change plans as KR went looking too soon for OJO. I think Lucky knows he was trying to be set up.

    • @KarenColeUKLawyer
      @KarenColeUKLawyer  3 місяці тому +1

      @LeanneRigby-iy7nx that is terrible when the prosecutor tried to make good people like Lucky appear not credible. I found the prosecutor less credible with his questions

    • @LeanneRigby-iy7nx
      @LeanneRigby-iy7nx 3 місяці тому +1

      @@KarenColeUKLawyer I can’t shake that the system has rotted from the top down, it’s the only explanation as to why this has occurred. People are changing though. People are taking notice. And when the government isn’t afraid of the people, people become unpredictable. I see change on the horizon 🫶