@@thirsty_gq_4x486 totally agree! I’m actually kind of obsessed with this game right now. I beat it once, but saw I missed so much I basically almost immediately started over and just explored more. Read an article the other day that apparently there’s going to be a RDR3, but it won’t be for a very long time. Sad, but if it’s anything like this game it’ll be totally worth the wait
The last two Strauss debt collection side missions really reflect John's chance at a new life with his wife and son, as well as Arthur's wasted life and his wife and child he lost before our entry into his story, with the runaway soldier and his pregnant native wife Arthur helped and the miner, ironically named Arthur, who died trying to repay his debts and his widow and son who Arthur forgave the debts for and can choose to give money to.
Despite his constant complaints and teasing of John, Arthur truly sees him as his brother. In the end his final efforts were to make sure John, Abigail, and Jack could get away from their outlaw life.
yeah abigail would comfort sadie in the camp while she was mourning her husband. sadie repayed the kindness by saving her husband. just like arthur said they are one of the best people
yeah sadie never bought into the gang above everybody bullshit, but she did make note of who had good hearts deep down and made sure to have their back when the time came.
Agreed. Because she was picked up early in the game she was able to see the difference of who Dutch to who he became. She probably also noticed Micah "rising to second in command" and having a bigger say in things.
Indeed a masterpiece. best game with a beautiful story line…. I’ve played this masterpiece over and over again and it still pains me to lose my boy after all he did 😪 authur gave Dutch all he had 💔
@@yousseftarek9015 Honestly I agree, as much as I love the bastard, his personality seems like it would be ok with these absolutely crazy ideas Dutch has.
Arthur Morgan's redemption story is so strong. He's so loyal to his gang that he will do anything no matter how cruel to help them or protect them. From the start if the game you can see the kindness Arthur has, how he tries to hide it so he can be who he needs to be for the gang, but as the game goes on and he sees how useless sticking with Dutch is, he starts to let his kindness out more, help people, be kind to them, give them a chance and choice. Then he gets sick and he completely changed. He's a man poisoned by the loyalty he had for Dutch, who in the end just wanted to do the right thing, regardless of himself.
I kinda have to disagree that Arthur good from the start. No, Arthur was a bad man from the start he was like the rest of the gang because that's how he grew up with Dutch and Hosea. His redemption ark started when he found out he has a TB Arthur was like "fuck it, I'm gonna die so I should at least do something good for this world" it is truth because once someone knows he's gonna 100% die he starts to see world differently. Everything is so much better, beautiful and you start to enjoy even the most minor things which you took for granted. Arthur was like that and that's why he changed into a man who he wanted to be. I love Arthur but please Arthur fans, don't say that he was the best man or good man from the start, clearly he wasn't, beating up an old man with TB for few bucks is messed up and Arthur said it at the Train Station with sister Calderon
@@theclown2664I think the truth lies in the middle: yes, Arthur is not and will never be the best man on Earth, not even close. Hell, we'd probably hate him if we were to play with him as an orphan, because he would probably be sour, frowning and an ass to everyone. The 36 yo Arthur however grew up from it, loved, had a family, lost it tragically, and is implied to have never been a sadist nor excessively cruel (in the high honor gameplay, which is the canon one) to those innocent (Mr. Downes aside, but Arthur realizes "he deserved it"). He didn't start doing good things just when he got TB, in fact he can show compassion with the old veterans and is all in all an ironic, calm, disillusioned man whom would probably reset his mistakes if he could. But he is still loyal to the gang, however I always read it as in the people in it and the freedom it gives rather than for the adrenaline it gives: his kindness is shown in giving Jack a book, a necklace to Tilly or a playful banter to Kieran, so it's bound to the gang but still present. But, it's true that he only started doing good outside the gang when he got TB: but again, not because he believes in a pseudo-salvation, but because it's in his nature to look out after others, and now he has nothing to lose (aka the gang, whom is dismantling, and his life) to reach others and help them in what little ways he could.
As Milton says "Another orphaned street kid picked up and seduced by that maniacs silver tongue!" They may look like the bad guys from a CRIMINALS perspective, but the deal they gave Arthur could have saved his life. Obviously he's not a rat, but he should have been because Dutch only lies for himself
@@theclown2664for an outlaw he was good "you always tell me to not kill in cold hand" Even from the start he wasn't that bad Didint kill innocent just robbing who can be rob You know when you look at that period in global Arthur is kinda a good man
You wouldn’t expect Sadie to be an important character at first when you rescue her but she is one of the best characters in the game. The end of that scene was so wholesome
@@yee3eDutch let himself be manipulated. Even John says it in rdr1, all that talk was bullshit. He was a narcissist. Hosea saw it in the end. Arthur saw it in the end and John watched it happen. Couldn’t even bring himself to die like a man, he had to jump.
Dutch broke every vow that he taught Arthur to live up to. This was the point that Arthur realized that Dutch was beyond saving. He realizes that the Van der Linde gang is no more. No longer his family, no longer his home.
@@Darkstormsun9865 i remember Arthur said that he still has some folk that he needs to take care off(reffering to the girls and non combatants of the gang like Swanson and Mr Pearson )that's why he refused Mary
@@callmehanson9466yup becuase Dutch literally adopted him under his wing when he was orphaned then all those years to just betray him in the end! Dutch is a worthless piece of 🤬
The “well what is it like?!” Is such a realistic tone. Ive been watching alot of amc walking dead and rdr2 voice acting is by far better than the acting in the show. Sad but amazing at the same time
I love that Sadie was still willing to go after her. Shows that she looks at certain members of the gang more as family than as means to not starve and aid in revenge. It also shows that in-spite of what happened to her, she’s still a good woman deep down.
Dutch was always with Micah cause Micah was his yes man, although Arthur always followed Dutch’s order he didn’t support them all and wasn’t his yes man same thing for John so he favored Micah for being his yes man
@@homersimpson6585 actually Arthur started questioning dutch before john after the sheeps mission in Valentine arthur said something to john about dutch being gifted with his silver tongue and how Arthur used to be his prize pony and now he's the working horse
@@mohamedhichemmouzali6505 actually in chapter 2 there was a mission where Dutch told Arthur not to doubt him and to have faith in him, Arthur had some questionings after the blackwater heist where he was confused what happened and was asking why Dutch shot that girl, also Arthur was actually somewhat envy of John, because John since joining the gang spoke out against Dutch a lot, Arthur wasn’t a yes man to Dutch but always followed his orders due to being loyal, especially for the fact Arthur was raised by Dutch, Arthur only gave up on Dutch in the last missions where he started to focus on John and his family.
It’s really painful to hear Arthur say, “All dem goddamn years.” Makes it even more painful that Arthur’s probably the most loyal member out of Dutch’s gang. I mean, he and Hosea were the first to work with him. And yet Dutch listened to a rat who has only been with them for less than a year.
at that moment arthur was the oldest member of the gang (other than dutch) so he was likely thinking that dutch was just using him the whole time. Which he was of course.
@r3gamexd Yeah if you had control and could open up on them you'd have had to light them all up, Arthur had the chance though as they went to ride off, he was fast as fuck, even after he got sick, it didn't slow his shooting, he could have dropped all of them before they realized it was happening.
He literally raised Arthur form his teenage years to adult hood and airy but stayed nothing but loyal and Dutch Punkass betrayed him like he was nothing!
I think Hosea pretty much knew that the gang was done during chapter 3, he says to Arthur that he has doubts about either family having a fortune of gold, after admitting the shitshow in the Rhodes saloon was almost certainly Mrs.Braithwaite setting them up. His conversation with Lenny earlier in the game about how they both feel the gang has lost it's way is confirmed by the end of chapter 3, leading him to only want to hit the bank and then leave, instead Arthur, Dutch and Lenny walked right into Bronte's trap and signalled to every law enforcement agency that they were still operating in the south. I don't think it'd of made much difference if he survived beyond Chapter 4 tbh, it rather seems like either Dutch or Micah would've ended up killing him regardless, Dutch was not pleased with his and Arthur's loud and legitimate criticisms in regards to getting revenge on Bronte.
That second “Dutch” from Arthur was straight disappointment. Arthur knew better than anyone that there is no changing his mind after it’s been made up.
Never thought a video game character could act and emote better than a lot of so-called "actors". The bewilderment, pain and anger in Arthur's eyes; the depth of emotions in the dialogues.... when he screamed "What IS IT like??!!" I just teared up. What a masterpiece you made, Rockstar Games, you absolute rockstars! RDR 2 is a modern classic of our times
This cutscene is when Arthur finally realized that Dutch lost himself completely. This isn’t the same Dutch that saved Sadie (who at the time was someone they didn’t even know). The pain in Arthur’s eyes actually tear me up to this day. This game is so beautiful, yet depressing at the same time.
the fact that dutch saved sadie in the beginning then ditched abigail in the end blows my mind like this man hasn’t just lost himself he has lost his humanity
I believe Dutch was always acting in his own gain, deep inside. He only helped and did things when it was ultimately convenient to him. That's why I hate him so much, he was a master manipulator of all of them for the longest time... it only took for things to start falling apart for Dutch to be unable to hide his true colors. Micah just happened to take advantage of that. That's why even though Micah is an idiot and a scumbag to me the ultimate villain here is Dutch.
All those years and he let a fork-tongued traitor turn him against his family. "You and me is all we need" got me because sadie was basically the newest member and she had more loyalty than Dutch ever had.
The pain in his voice when he screams "Dutch" still hits hard today. Just as much as my lumbago Edit: thx for the almost 4 k likes... Look mom im famous.
Lmao lumbago it's a slow death but honestly this is the best entertainment I've had in years apart from red dead 1 this story is so captivating in every way
this game always made me feel such a strong sense of family and warmth with the good characters. It felt like connecting with real people rather than lines of code. Sadie, Uncle, John, Charles, Abigail, all of them felt so real, literally family
Dutch tried to choose. But if Micah didn't said those words.... Dutch wanted to help Abigail but Micah did that shit UPD: Thank you guys for 1000 likes. That's my record
@@holdmybeefstew7131 Dutch while not being as evil as Micah Dutch him self is still a crazy man who killed for fun and betrayes his own people like John and Arthur for personal gain he was being manipulated but he was still a villain
This game needs be be played or watched by all men in this world. Boys need this story. Boys need these characters to help teach them. Schools don't anymore. Parents have lost their ways. I never realized how giant of an impact this game really has on people.
Arthur was one of the best protagonists that I have ever played in a game. From beginning to end, playing RDR 2 felt like a journey. I also think that it was a really interesting & unique idea to have the antagonist of the game be part of the gang from the beginning that you just have to tolerate & watch as he manipulates everyone around you. It made the final part of the epilogue that much more satisfying.
@@sofiafaraz33there is a theory that he got two brain injuries at the trolley in saint denis and on the boat to guarma, but that's just a theory A GAME THEORY
@@thehunter_3414It makes sense. Traumatic brain injuries to the frontal lobe can change someones personality. Dutch had constant headaches throught the Guarma chapter. Doesnt make him any less of a snake, but it makes the sudden personality change make sense.
Dutch always had this character trait But thing is there was Hosea to keep him in check but now he's out of the picture Micah's influence amplified this personality buried deep inside him
He seemed to switch when the tram crashed in Saint Denis. I noticed an almost immediate change when that happened. There is a theory that Dutch had a brain injury in the crash because he wasn't feeling good in that mission and was complaining about his head
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You can hear the pain in arthurs voice when he says "All them goddam years"
He says it a few times. You can tell he really is questioning his whole life every time he does. This game is damn good lol
@@ricardomenendez2709 this game is hands down the best game I've ever played legit never been drawn in by a story as much as red dead 2
@@thirsty_gq_4x486 totally agree! I’m actually kind of obsessed with this game right now. I beat it once, but saw I missed so much I basically almost immediately started over and just explored more. Read an article the other day that apparently there’s going to be a RDR3, but it won’t be for a very long time. Sad, but if it’s anything like this game it’ll be totally worth the wait
He did?
Bozo, L+ ratio, skill issue, mad cuz bad, stay mad, cry about it.
Arthur’s loyalty to John was always the biggest thing to me. So loyal to him he refused to leave his wife and kid behind even after John was “dead”
Reflection on Arthur's family he had once
Of course, they're Brothers
The last two Strauss debt collection side missions really reflect John's chance at a new life with his wife and son, as well as Arthur's wasted life and his wife and child he lost before our entry into his story, with the runaway soldier and his pregnant native wife Arthur helped and the miner, ironically named Arthur, who died trying to repay his debts and his widow and son who Arthur forgave the debts for and can choose to give money to.
Despite his constant complaints and teasing of John, Arthur truly sees him as his brother. In the end his final efforts were to make sure John, Abigail, and Jack could get away from their outlaw life.
Yup😞😞
“Come on Arthur lets go get her, you and me is all we need.” After all she went though she still stuck around till the end Sadie was a real one
She sticks around much longer to. I think she's one of the only characters who appears in online mode
@@zikonrokarminrot636 online mode takes place before rdr2. Sean and some other characters appears too
@@dmnvrs yep
@@dmnvrs and you can also see her husband aswell
After John and lenny, she's the best friend of Arthur.
Sadie wasn’t just loyal to Arthur. She was loyal to Abigail who befriended and helped her after Colter. She never lost sight of those who mattered.
yeah abigail would comfort sadie in the camp while she was mourning her husband. sadie repayed the kindness by saving her husband. just like arthur said they are one of the best people
She even says „she was always so good to me“ in the epilogue
yeah sadie never bought into the gang above everybody bullshit, but she did make note of who had good hearts deep down and made sure to have their back when the time came.
Yup true😌😌
After being widowed she had nothing to lose
Sadie had more balls than Dutch and Micah combined. A real G.
I don't think she has "balls" If u know what I mean
Yes she took them from jakie's body
Hold on I'm playing this again I don't really rember I thout the end I built a house with John Abigail and jack
Wasnt jakie her husband? Dont you mean that O'driscal dude? @@LeoY2614
@@JasonSwift-hu5bnthat’s the epilogue
I love that Sadie didn't even budge. She had no intention of letting Arthur do this alone.
"Come on, *you and me is all we need."*
Yeah that's y she's one of my fav characters
God I love Sadie
Having her in the epilogue was the best
Sadie is the best
I like to think she moved on and did what Arthur did for her for other women
Agreed. Because she was picked up early in the game she was able to see the difference of who Dutch to who he became. She probably also noticed Micah "rising to second in command" and having a bigger say in things.
Don't Forget Charles!🖤 🐺
Genuinely my top 3 favourites
Such a masterpiece of a game i swear
The absolute best story in a game I've ever played
@@anakinskywalker8610 even better than Star Wars?
@@anakinskywalker8610 I can beat you in a lightsaber duel
this is very true currently on my 7th playthrough
Indeed a masterpiece. best game with a beautiful story line…. I’ve played this masterpiece over and over again and it still pains me to lose my boy after all he did 😪 authur gave Dutch all he had 💔
"You and me is all we need." What a woman.
A "Ride or die" woman. ❤
Sadie is pure evil bro
@@mrepical7235 hell nah
Just a Sadie in my life i'd be happy
@@mrepical7235 Micahs alt account
This last "Dutch" hits diffrent, because you can feel disbelief in what happened in his voice
Sadie was a real one
Fr she always had arthurs back
That damn traitor
Not was she is
Yesss!! its Arthur, Charles and Sadie
Ofc she knows the pain of losing someone important (her husband)
You think they will just let the kid be a orphan who knew who where his parents
This is actually the first time Arthur begging in his entire life, when he let out that "DUTCH 😢!!!"
It’s the exact same “Dutch!” Hosea makes during the first train robbery
Yeah dutch was so vrazy that arthyr had to beg him and he did nothing
Its very sad
@@arthurmorgan2558 i agree mr morgan
I never thought of it thst way. it makes it hurt that much more. thanks a million bud!
If Sean Lenny and Hosea were still alive, they would have stayed
Kieran if he didn’t die, uncle and Charles if they didn’t left
Don't think Sean will,he told Arthur that he must stick with dutch
@@yousseftarek9015 Honestly I agree, as much as I love the bastard, his personality seems like it would be ok with these absolutely crazy ideas Dutch has.
@@FearlessGamer27 if Sean was in the standoff scene, he'll stand with dutch, but he won't point his gun on Arthur. That's what I like to believe.
@@yousseftarek9015 Sean wasn't heartless though
Arthur Morgan's redemption story is so strong. He's so loyal to his gang that he will do anything no matter how cruel to help them or protect them. From the start if the game you can see the kindness Arthur has, how he tries to hide it so he can be who he needs to be for the gang, but as the game goes on and he sees how useless sticking with Dutch is, he starts to let his kindness out more, help people, be kind to them, give them a chance and choice. Then he gets sick and he completely changed. He's a man poisoned by the loyalty he had for Dutch, who in the end just wanted to do the right thing, regardless of himself.
I kinda have to disagree that Arthur good from the start. No, Arthur was a bad man from the start he was like the rest of the gang because that's how he grew up with Dutch and Hosea. His redemption ark started when he found out he has a TB Arthur was like "fuck it, I'm gonna die so I should at least do something good for this world" it is truth because once someone knows he's gonna 100% die he starts to see world differently. Everything is so much better, beautiful and you start to enjoy even the most minor things which you took for granted. Arthur was like that and that's why he changed into a man who he wanted to be. I love Arthur but please Arthur fans, don't say that he was the best man or good man from the start, clearly he wasn't, beating up an old man with TB for few bucks is messed up and Arthur said it at the Train Station with sister Calderon
@@theclown2664I think the truth lies in the middle: yes, Arthur is not and will never be the best man on Earth, not even close. Hell, we'd probably hate him if we were to play with him as an orphan, because he would probably be sour, frowning and an ass to everyone.
The 36 yo Arthur however grew up from it, loved, had a family, lost it tragically, and is implied to have never been a sadist nor excessively cruel (in the high honor gameplay, which is the canon one) to those innocent (Mr. Downes aside, but Arthur realizes "he deserved it").
He didn't start doing good things just when he got TB, in fact he can show compassion with the old veterans and is all in all an ironic, calm, disillusioned man whom would probably reset his mistakes if he could. But he is still loyal to the gang, however I always read it as in the people in it and the freedom it gives rather than for the adrenaline it gives: his kindness is shown in giving Jack a book, a necklace to Tilly or a playful banter to Kieran, so it's bound to the gang but still present.
But, it's true that he only started doing good outside the gang when he got TB: but again, not because he believes in a pseudo-salvation, but because it's in his nature to look out after others, and now he has nothing to lose (aka the gang, whom is dismantling, and his life) to reach others and help them in what little ways he could.
As Milton says "Another orphaned street kid picked up and seduced by that maniacs silver tongue!" They may look like the bad guys from a CRIMINALS perspective, but the deal they gave Arthur could have saved his life. Obviously he's not a rat, but he should have been because Dutch only lies for himself
@@theclown2664for an outlaw he was good
"you always tell me to not kill in cold hand"
Even from the start he wasn't that bad
Didint kill innocent just robbing who can be rob
You know when you look at that period in global Arthur is kinda a good man
Dutch used to be like this but over the time when they lost more and more people and through constant influence from people like Micah he changed.
You wouldn’t expect Sadie to be an important character at first when you rescue her but she is one of the best characters in the game. The end of that scene was so wholesome
Crazy how Sadie was more loyal than Dutch in the end lmao
Thats cuz sadie wasnt being manipulated like dutch.
She also barely knew him
A girl they found in a random house is more loyal than someone who have been the father figure of Arthur for decades
@@yee3eDutch let himself be manipulated. Even John says it in rdr1, all that talk was bullshit. He was a narcissist. Hosea saw it in the end. Arthur saw it in the end and John watched it happen. Couldn’t even bring himself to die like a man, he had to jump.
@@Ligierthegreensunthat's deep as shit
@@blase1856He wasn't just a Father figure, Dutch was indeed Arthur's Father.
Dutch broke every vow that he taught Arthur to live up to. This was the point that Arthur realized that Dutch was beyond saving. He realizes that the Van der Linde gang is no more. No longer his family, no longer his home.
I agree, that's what I felt, I think if Arthur had survived, he would rode off to his own life.
Yep. This is the moment Arthur “left” the gang and became his own man making his own decisions
@@bobhill3941 he would have went to Mary become a decent man like John. The only reason he refused her because he felt he had to stick with the gang.
@@Darkstormsun9865 Yes, that's how I felt.
@@Darkstormsun9865 i remember Arthur said that he still has some folk that he needs to take care off(reffering to the girls and non combatants of the gang like Swanson and Mr Pearson )that's why he refused Mary
Damn...the delivery when he says "Then what is it like" is absolutely heart wrenching. So much desperation and hopelessness in one line.
The second "Dutch...!" Gets me everytime 😢
@@delliciousjitsu8918 The way Arthur says Dutch sounds like a child pleading "Dad". Truly heartbreaking.
@@callmehanson9466yup becuase Dutch literally adopted him under his wing when he was orphaned then all those years to just betray him in the end! Dutch is a worthless piece of 🤬
For me it's the voice cracking when he says "All of them god damn years and for what?"
@@callmehanson9466it’s so funny because I just made a similar comment and I’m glad I’m not the only one that got that vibe
The way arthur says" Dutch"
The pain in that voice
His eyes too, he was on the verge of breaking down into tears.
It reminds me of how Hosea said Dutch when pleading with him not to rob Cornwall
His voice crack when he says „what is it like?!”... this just broke his heart... and mine
The “well what is it like?!” Is such a realistic tone. Ive been watching alot of amc walking dead and rdr2 voice acting is by far better than the acting in the show. Sad but amazing at the same time
And the way he says "DUUuutCH!", jesus. So much emotion conveyed. Betrayal, anguish, even loneliness when he realizes everyone is abandoning him
There's a reason Roger Clark won best actor at the VGAs.
The way he jumps off and says Dutch is enough to make a grown man cry.
Sadie understood Arthur it was always an amazing friendship
both are no men they are both ghost. as Arthur said
That last "Dutch!" is what broke me...
I love that Sadie was still willing to go after her. Shows that she looks at certain members of the gang more as family than as means to not starve and aid in revenge. It also shows that in-spite of what happened to her, she’s still a good woman deep down.
Dutch was always Team Micah this just pissed me off all over again
Not always.
Was pretty much team Micah since Micah first joined. If he wasn't, then how could he be convinced by that little shit to do what he did in blackwater?
Dutch was always with Micah cause Micah was his yes man, although Arthur always followed Dutch’s order he didn’t support them all and wasn’t his yes man same thing for John so he favored Micah for being his yes man
@@homersimpson6585 actually Arthur started questioning dutch before john after the sheeps mission in Valentine arthur said something to john about dutch being gifted with his silver tongue and how Arthur used to be his prize pony and now he's the working horse
@@mohamedhichemmouzali6505 actually in chapter 2 there was a mission where Dutch told Arthur not to doubt him and to have faith in him, Arthur had some questionings after the blackwater heist where he was confused what happened and was asking why Dutch shot that girl, also Arthur was actually somewhat envy of John, because John since joining the gang spoke out against Dutch a lot, Arthur wasn’t a yes man to Dutch but always followed his orders due to being loyal, especially for the fact Arthur was raised by Dutch, Arthur only gave up on Dutch in the last missions where he started to focus on John and his family.
“You and me is all we need” hits different
It’s really painful to hear Arthur say, “All dem goddamn years.” Makes it even more painful that Arthur’s probably the most loyal member out of Dutch’s gang. I mean, he and Hosea were the first to work with him. And yet Dutch listened to a rat who has only been with them for less than a year.
at that moment arthur was the oldest member of the gang (other than dutch) so he was likely thinking that dutch was just using him the whole time. Which he was of course.
If I had the chance I would have dumped both guns into Dutch and Micah right there as they went to ride off.
@@stevepalpatine2828maybe bill and javier as well, cuz they were there too, hey maybe red dead 1 could have turned out different then
@r3gamexd Yeah if you had control and could open up on them you'd have had to light them all up, Arthur had the chance though as they went to ride off, he was fast as fuck, even after he got sick, it didn't slow his shooting, he could have dropped all of them before they realized it was happening.
He literally raised Arthur form his teenage years to adult hood and airy but stayed nothing but loyal and Dutch Punkass betrayed him like he was nothing!
That 2nd shout from Arthur "Dutch!". Hurts sooo bad.
You can hear the pleading, betrayal and hurt in Arthurs voice at that moment.
Javier's voice actor wanted to side with John and Arthur
Damn you, Script! 🤯
@@Angrymonkey2489 it's because of rdr1, that's why he can't side with Arthur and John.
To think, if Hosea was still alive, this could have all been avoided. Hosea was for sure the angel on Dutch's shoulder that he so desperately needed
I think Hosea pretty much knew that the gang was done during chapter 3, he says to Arthur that he has doubts about either family having a fortune of gold, after admitting the shitshow in the Rhodes saloon was almost certainly Mrs.Braithwaite setting them up.
His conversation with Lenny earlier in the game about how they both feel the gang has lost it's way is confirmed by the end of chapter 3, leading him to only want to hit the bank and then leave, instead Arthur, Dutch and Lenny walked right into Bronte's trap and signalled to every law enforcement agency that they were still operating in the south.
I don't think it'd of made much difference if he survived beyond Chapter 4 tbh, it rather seems like either Dutch or Micah would've ended up killing him regardless, Dutch was not pleased with his and Arthur's loud and legitimate criticisms in regards to getting revenge on Bronte.
Even with Hosea the government and army and pinkertons were closing in. No gang member could've stopped the inevitable.
Micah is like the devil on Dutch’s shoulder.
Yes and Hosea's death tipped Dutch on the wrong side and upset the balance he was bringing
Yeah, hosea was the angel on his other shoudler and when hosea wasnt there to keep dutch in check this wouldnt have happened
My god that’s the perfect analogy
And Hosea was like the Angel in Dutch's Shoulder
He only wanted Tahiti!!
All those years and all them telling how they met Dutch and how he cared for them.
I don't need a thousand men army, just need one sadie backing me up
Or John
The pain in Arthur’s face when he says “dutch”
The way Arthur says "Dutch" when he gets off his horse.. you can just hear the pain in his voice, like he knew he was losing his father figure.
That second “Dutch” from Arthur was straight disappointment. Arthur knew better than anyone that there is no changing his mind after it’s been made up.
When he said then what is it like I can feel the sadness in his voice it breaks my heart
The tuberculosis only destroyed his lungs, his heart was pure gold. 😢
Never thought a video game character could act and emote better than a lot of so-called "actors". The bewilderment, pain and anger in Arthur's eyes; the depth of emotions in the dialogues.... when he screamed "What IS IT like??!!" I just teared up. What a masterpiece you made, Rockstar Games, you absolute rockstars! RDR 2 is a modern classic of our times
He does have an actor
“Be brave son, I’m gonna go get your momma.”
The last words of Arthur Morgan to Jack Marson..
@@lonewolfgamingplus379 And at four years old, he probably barely remembers him...
@@Krystalmyth He does remember because theres a dialogue between Abigail and Jack when you play as John where Jack says that Arthur saved them
@@Krystalmyth aint he 6?
😢
This cutscene is when Arthur finally realized that Dutch lost himself completely. This isn’t the same Dutch that saved Sadie (who at the time was someone they didn’t even know). The pain in Arthur’s eyes actually tear me up to this day. This game is so beautiful, yet depressing at the same time.
the fact that dutch saved sadie in the beginning then ditched abigail in the end blows my mind
like this man hasn’t just lost himself he has lost his humanity
So beautiful and yet depressing at the same time. Just like real life. ~
I believe Dutch was always acting in his own gain, deep inside. He only helped and did things when it was ultimately convenient to him. That's why I hate him so much, he was a master manipulator of all of them for the longest time... it only took for things to start falling apart for Dutch to be unable to hide his true colors. Micah just happened to take advantage of that. That's why even though Micah is an idiot and a scumbag to me the ultimate villain here is Dutch.
Which mission is this? I completely missed it or forgot it
“All them goddamn years”
Sadie was such a good character, not a Mary sue or a damsel in distress
I love how Sadie always, ALWAYS stood up for Arthur and John.
All those years and he let a fork-tongued traitor turn him against his family. "You and me is all we need" got me because sadie was basically the newest member and she had more loyalty than Dutch ever had.
The pain in his voice when he screams "Dutch" still hits hard today. Just as much as my lumbago
Edit: thx for the almost 4 k likes... Look mom im famous.
Lmao lumbago it's a slow death but honestly this is the best entertainment I've had in years apart from red dead 1 this story is so captivating in every way
The hell is lumbago?
@@harborpearl29 Uncle will tell you
Lumbago sure is a fate worse than death brother
This is funny
Hosea was like his therapist and also kept Micah out of his ear
You can tell Arthur still trusted Dutch deep down. Until the end of
I never cried as much as I did playing this fucking masterpiece
In the beginning Sadie was terrified and to the end she never betrayed the gang and always stuck by there side
this game always made me feel such a strong sense of family and warmth with the good characters. It felt like connecting with real people rather than lines of code. Sadie, Uncle, John, Charles, Abigail, all of them felt so real, literally family
Don’t forget Lenny and Hosea
Sadie was the only loyal one. If only they were all like her 😢
The sadness in Arthurs voice when hes asking Dutch to help
One of the best voice acting I have ever seen.
Hell yeah every one of them had emotion in their voices
you and me is all we need
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All right carlos, lets go get her
Mr. Gabriel… ride with me! HEEYAW!
The pain in Arthur's voice 💔
The pleading look in Arthurs eyes 😢
If Hosea alive he will be with Arthur
When Micah said every man here knows it arthur interrupted because one person of the gang actually have an real heart of gold
Dutch tried to choose. But if Micah didn't said those words.... Dutch wanted to help Abigail but Micah did that shit
UPD: Thank you guys for 1000 likes. That's my record
dutch is not a kid he made the decision and everyone follows him
Dutch is a grownass man and a loser in this scene. Don’t pin his actions on Micah. It’s not hard to say “no,” hell he told Arthur no a hundred times
@@eddiesandhu3618 You’re right he’s not a kid, he’s crazy thanks to Micah
@@holdmybeefstew7131 Dutch while not being as evil as Micah Dutch him self is still a crazy man who killed for fun and betrayes his own people like John and Arthur for personal gain he was being manipulated but he was still a villain
@Juggled I’m not wrong
This game needs be be played or watched by all men in this world. Boys need this story. Boys need these characters to help teach them. Schools don't anymore. Parents have lost their ways. I never realized how giant of an impact this game really has on people.
So real
The fact that he gets off his horse cause he so emotional
Sadie was a real one, easily one of my favorites
sadie is the real homie during Arthurs journey to face the west.
Roger Clark will forever be my favourite voice actor. Absolutely outstanding performance.
“I still got the choice” shit hits harder and harder every time I play
sadie and arthur is for sure the best duo in rdr
Sadie wasn't raised on a life of crime, yet still turned out to be more self aware than dutch 🤣
Second time arthur said dutch hurts
And he was about to beg him
Sadie a real one 💯
The amount of emotion when he says “Dutch” the second time is incredible so much put into one word Roger Clark is such a talented man
Arthur was one of the best protagonists that I have ever played in a game. From beginning to end, playing RDR 2 felt like a journey. I also think that it was a really interesting & unique idea to have the antagonist of the game be part of the gang from the beginning that you just have to tolerate & watch as he manipulates everyone around you. It made the final part of the epilogue that much more satisfying.
If Dutch chapter 1 saw dutch chapter 6 saying this he would beat the plan outta his head
Ikr it’s so sad. All the money had gotten into Dutch’s head 😔
@@sofiafaraz33there is a theory that he got two brain injuries at the trolley in saint denis and on the boat to guarma, but that's just a theory A GAME THEORY
@@thehunter_3414It makes sense.
Traumatic brain injuries to the frontal lobe can change someones personality.
Dutch had constant headaches throught the Guarma chapter.
Doesnt make him any less of a snake, but it makes the sudden personality change make sense.
"You and me is all we need" the feels !
Sadie needs her own game
Fr
iirc Sadie's voice actor said that she'd like to see the next Red Dead title with Sadie as the protagonist.
When he said Dutch the pain in his eyes
Best rdr2 edit I’ve watched
The pain in the voice of arthur make me cry 😭
"You and me is all we need" Thi is the best line in the game
I like what Sadie said: You and I it's all we need
Hosea is a cure for Dutch, and micha just like a virus
The worst part is that even if Micah wasn’t ratting he would likely of still been like this, he was always out for himself
“Fuck that!”
Arthur Morgan, 1899
“Well that’s it then, all them years”
Arthur knew right there and then that it was over
Dutch always had this character trait
But thing is there was Hosea to keep him in check but now he's out of the picture Micah's influence amplified this personality buried deep inside him
I didn't even think of that but that's so true.
That's the principal fact, Hosea's death tipped Dutch on the wrong side and upset the balance he was bringing
He seemed to switch when the tram crashed in Saint Denis. I noticed an almost immediate change when that happened. There is a theory that Dutch had a brain injury in the crash because he wasn't feeling good in that mission and was complaining about his head
I feel like it’s the one mission where if Javier was there he would’ve helped
This is where they made the ultimate decision, then they faced john's wrath.
You can clearly see the pain that Arthur felt on that time, his eyes say it all, Dutch from being his mentor to a traitor, feels sad men. So sad...
the heart break in arthurs voice
🤧🤧
Wanted too see more of Sadie in the missions,her character was so good
No I disagree
@@DeadX2 strong woman in power positions. "ShE aNnOyInG"
@@Darkstormsun9865 and bonnie and any other female character is better
@@DeadX2 and yet for reason its Sadie that rubs you the wrong way. The one woman is the most assertive and ruthless of them all.
@@Darkstormsun9865 she litteraly buys clothes and becomes badass out of nowhere
“All them goddam years”sends chills through my spine
First we rescued Sadie now she rescues us
“Well I guess that’s that then.” Literally hurts every time
“All them god damn years”😔
It was micah saying "i want to live i still got a choice" that hit me. Arthur doesnt have a choice with his TB
It's still the best story I've ever played.
Cowardice and greed is a parasite that can burrow into even the most honorable of men
for me the arthur screaming "dutch!" is the most painful thing and heartbreaking
The point where Arthur finds out that his whole life was getting betrayed by the person he trusted the most.
I wish I didn't remember this now I am sad 😞