Great video! Flim was recorded in the mid to early 90s, which I guess is a bit before your time so, I think you're missing a little bit of knowledge regarding the electronic music software workflows that were available (Ableton certainly wasn't a thing). Software was basic, and didn't suit this style of music which basically didn't exist yet! I don't know what Flim was made on, but I would guess that the sequencing was done with either Cubase on an Atari ST or an MPC 60 and mixed down to ADAT. Cubase, Protools and Logic were being used on Windows 3.1 around that time, but were more suited for audio recording than midi tracking (they barely had more than a piano roll and there was no such thing as a VST). Richard would have been working with lots of limitations in sample memory, tracks, and the number of patterns that could be chained together. A "cheap" way of getting a nice sub bass line (without the need of a synth) at the time was tuning the toms right down (as you say) and automating the changes in tone. The drum part would have been built up by copying patterns and then changing the copy, then copy and change that pattern and so on. This is why the pattern seems to evolve and increase in complexity as the song goes on. You've almost hearing him develop the beat in real time, because it would have been a hassle to go back and mess about with the earlier patterns on an MPC 60. Musically asides, the complexity he managed was quite an achievement at the time given what he had to work with.
What up Freakoutski? Appreciate the input there. Yeah I was born in 93' lol. Thanks for contributing this. Even hearing music in 2020 with drums like this would be very impressive...Skee Mask has some crazy drums these days...
I was using Cubase, Atari ST, classic Roland gear, etc back then. And like everyone during this seminal period of electronic music, you just had to milk out what you could within the limitations of the time. Which in many respects was an advantage, compared to the boundless and distracting choices one has today, Whatever gear or techniques he uses is always going to be speculative but it’s clear his genius lies in the ability to be astonishingly meticulous with the married nuances of sound design and arrangement. So that’s why this kind of breakdown of his music I think is most insightful. Well done! Cheers
Logic was Emagic Logic at the time and couldn't create a track like this. I am pretty sure he used a tracker on an Atari. To me, looking at was available at the time and what he was known to use, a tracker was the only available way to create a track with such randomized effects and midi delays.
if ya'll learn renoise this type of drum progamming will make sense!!!! the tracker workflow shits all over any daw when it comes to intricate shit. the velocity, panning, and timing delays are all 2 digit colums that allow you to automate all that shit quick as fuck. not to mention the insanely easy FX automation. i highly recomend downloading renoise demo and watching a few hours of the offical tutorials. its the most addictive, least frustrating way to compose. if you make music in your head, renoise is the quickest way to get it out. shits gnarly i could go on and on
@@alexwilcoxx i highly reccomend. ive barely scratched the surface and am able to make great stuff! it has a sample slicer like ableton also which i love. it may look weird cuz its hexidecimal code shit but you will realize thats the beauty of it. richard made alot of this stuff on playerpro tracker but renoise is the most modern typd of tracker. the more you learn the shortcuts, the less you will touch your mouse and it turns into a game of sorts
Subscribed. This was awesome. Thank you. Like, as a new producer (roughly 6 months in), this was super informational, super inspirational...just...awesome. Huge virtual high-five.
For sure Joe :) Glad you got the midi files. If you're ever interested, I teach one-on-one classes over zoom :) mixing, producing, recording, custom track breakdowns, whatever!
One of my favorite artists, being a fan since last year (and maybe 1 and a half). The fact that, back then, technology was really limited to work (synths and more stuff like that) and somehow this man worked really well with various things and releases is really astonishing for me, like... how the hell did he managed to do most of the tracks in 1990-2000??? Seeing this explanation about just only one track is... wow, too much complex in just under 3 minutes of a song... This guy is really ahead of the time... 25:04 lol
just a comment to the small incidental delays effects that happens on the snare. this tune is most probably made in a tracker, so theres no actual midi just samples playing from the tracker commands, so adding these delays are not done with a vst effect or something, but simply by adding a short two letter command next to the note in the tracker, i think doing this in a daw would be more equal to just copy and paste the sample repeatedly, even though there are these glitch fx vst that does this. if someone uses a tracker today it would be renoise i think
Hey man, been obsessed with this breakdown for months! Where did the actual drum sounds themselves come from? Was that a break that you chopped up or did you just find individual hits that sounded similar?
The only thing you're hearing in the video the original track. None of the midi / parts you're seeing are actually being played/audible, it's just a visual approximation of what he thinks is going on using his ear. More of an arrangement breakdown than a production/sound design breakdown
If you want the PROJECT FILE you can email me at wilcox.alex@me.com. You can also SUPPORT ME on PATREON: Patreon.com/alexwilcox ^^^You can also get one-on-one PRIVATE LESSONS via zoom, AMBIENT FIELD RECORDINGS made by myself, and TRACK FEEDBACK.
alex: we won't be talking about the drums much on this track
also alex: so here, the hi hats do a little dance
Let me live my life
Great video! Flim was recorded in the mid to early 90s, which I guess is a bit before your time so, I think you're missing a little bit of knowledge regarding the electronic music software workflows that were available (Ableton certainly wasn't a thing). Software was basic, and didn't suit this style of music which basically didn't exist yet! I don't know what Flim was made on, but I would guess that the sequencing was done with either Cubase on an Atari ST or an MPC 60 and mixed down to ADAT. Cubase, Protools and Logic were being used on Windows 3.1 around that time, but were more suited for audio recording than midi tracking (they barely had more than a piano roll and there was no such thing as a VST). Richard would have been working with lots of limitations in sample memory, tracks, and the number of patterns that could be chained together. A "cheap" way of getting a nice sub bass line (without the need of a synth) at the time was tuning the toms right down (as you say) and automating the changes in tone. The drum part would have been built up by copying patterns and then changing the copy, then copy and change that pattern and so on. This is why the pattern seems to evolve and increase in complexity as the song goes on. You've almost hearing him develop the beat in real time, because it would have been a hassle to go back and mess about with the earlier patterns on an MPC 60. Musically asides, the complexity he managed was quite an achievement at the time given what he had to work with.
What up Freakoutski? Appreciate the input there. Yeah I was born in 93' lol. Thanks for contributing this. Even hearing music in 2020 with drums like this would be very impressive...Skee Mask has some crazy drums these days...
What a great history lesson in electronic music. And big up to RESPONSE for such an enthusiastic and in-depth analysis!
I was using Cubase, Atari ST, classic Roland gear, etc back then. And like everyone during this seminal period of electronic music, you just had to milk out what you could within the limitations of the time. Which in many respects was an advantage, compared to the boundless and distracting choices one has today, Whatever gear or techniques he uses is always going to be speculative but it’s clear his genius lies in the ability to be astonishingly meticulous with the married nuances of sound design and arrangement. So that’s why this kind of breakdown of his music I think is most insightful. Well done! Cheers
Logic was Emagic Logic at the time and couldn't create a track like this. I am pretty sure he used a tracker on an Atari. To me, looking at was available at the time and what he was known to use, a tracker was the only available way to create a track with such randomized effects and midi delays.
@@mulangira79 yeah tracker for sure, its obvious from the repeated snare drums etc
prolly one of the most unique drum patterns i ever heard
if ya'll learn renoise this type of drum progamming will make sense!!!! the tracker workflow shits all over any daw when it comes to intricate shit. the velocity, panning, and timing delays are all 2 digit colums that allow you to automate all that shit quick as fuck. not to mention the insanely easy FX automation. i highly recomend downloading renoise demo and watching a few hours of the offical tutorials. its the most addictive, least frustrating way to compose. if you make music in your head, renoise is the quickest way to get it out. shits gnarly i could go on and on
Interesting - have never used!
@@alexwilcoxx i highly reccomend. ive barely scratched the surface and am able to make great stuff! it has a sample slicer like ableton also which i love. it may look weird cuz its hexidecimal code shit but you will realize thats the beauty of it. richard made alot of this stuff on playerpro tracker but renoise is the most modern typd of tracker. the more you learn the shortcuts, the less you will touch your mouse and it turns into a game of sorts
That high pitch noise you heard at 6:18 is such an odd lil Aphex moment that I always wondered if other people notice too
I love Aphex Twins. Such a great band.
pretty solid
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Subscribed. This was awesome. Thank you. Like, as a new producer (roughly 6 months in), this was super informational, super inspirational...just...awesome. Huge virtual high-five.
For sure Joe :) Glad you got the midi files. If you're ever interested, I teach one-on-one classes over zoom :) mixing, producing, recording, custom track breakdowns, whatever!
great breakdown. getting the tracks soloed out would helpful when point stuff out.
I think you covered the most important aspect of RDJ music...ie the arrangement skills.
this was an awesome analysis, inspiring me to start producing one day
Hell yeah :) Good to hear - go for it. I also do one-on-one lessons lol
One of my favorite artists, being a fan since last year (and maybe 1 and a half). The fact that, back then, technology was really limited to work (synths and more stuff like that) and somehow this man worked really well with various things and releases is really astonishing for me, like... how the hell did he managed to do most of the tracks in 1990-2000??? Seeing this explanation about just only one track is... wow, too much complex in just under 3 minutes of a song... This guy is really ahead of the time...
25:04 lol
just a comment to the small incidental delays effects that happens on the snare. this tune is most probably made in a tracker, so theres no actual midi just samples playing from the tracker commands, so adding these delays are not done with a vst effect or something, but simply by adding a short two letter command next to the note in the tracker, i think doing this in a daw would be more equal to just copy and paste the sample repeatedly, even though there are these glitch fx vst that does this. if someone uses a tracker today it would be renoise i think
The “delay thing” you are talking about is actually a re-trigger. It’s an effect commonly used in trackers like Renoise.
what a great job, seriously! really enjoy your work!
Glad you dig :)
Are you producing yourself?
the air horn you added at one point has me dying over here 💀
I've read it as F I L M for many years, only to realise its been flim all along when you said it outloud... :D
Fantastic track, great analysis 🙏
Much appreciated!
Just found your channel, great stuff!
Sick video!
glad you enjoyed :)
Would you consider having a look at beep street by squarepusher?
I will consider!
You're the man man!
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Subscribed this is top quality content
Any chance you could a video of XMAS_EVET10[120][thanaton3 mix]?
Hell yeah - glad you dig :)
We'll see - I haven't listened to that one - have a big list ahead of me right now but I'll check it out!
Ofcourse! As long as you keep making videos Im happy!
before you said it out loud in the video ive been thinking it as film not flim all my life
my whole life is a lie
anyone know where i can find melody notes like those?
Aphex T brought me here, thanks
I have always suspected he programmed this using the Roland R8 as a midi controller into a sampler.
The green part from b -> c section... drums only I swear it sounds tempo shifted. 1/2 tempo
I think it's a shift to triplet feel.
Hey man, been obsessed with this breakdown for months! Where did the actual drum sounds themselves come from? Was that a break that you chopped up or did you just find individual hits that sounded similar?
It's just a visual he doesn't reproduce the tt@ck
The only thing you're hearing in the video the original track. None of the midi / parts you're seeing are actually being played/audible, it's just a visual approximation of what he thinks is going on using his ear. More of an arrangement breakdown than a production/sound design breakdown
do you provide these projectfiles as download?
The delays and reverbs to which you refer in the first half seem to just be a lot of intricate snare rolls.
the intro made me realize it is "flim" not "film" omg
understandable
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You can also SUPPORT ME on PATREON: Patreon.com/alexwilcox
^^^You can also get one-on-one PRIVATE LESSONS via zoom, AMBIENT FIELD RECORDINGS made by myself, and TRACK FEEDBACK.
I keep thinking you've recreated the actual sounds but you're just marking where things go...ok got it.
Where i can get drums of this track only?
You can email me at wilcox.alex@me.com :)
i always read it as "film
this video mostly says stuff thats obvious to anyone, I was expecting something a little more detail