Why I DON'T use a Seasonal Colour Analysis \\ And why shouldn't you

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  • Опубліковано 21 жов 2024

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  • @emmelinesprig489
    @emmelinesprig489 2 роки тому +24

    I really agree with this perspective! I have tried in the past to find “my season”, but I just don’t fit into any of them. I look good in colors that contradict the categories. I do think an awareness of color is important, but like you say, it’s something we must discover for ourselves by paying attention and trying different colors! Why limit ourselves unnecessarily?

    • @SueRosalie
      @SueRosalie Рік тому +2

      your correct palette is not limiting, the opposite is true. You have more options because everything works with everything else.

  • @marise-cellardoor2031
    @marise-cellardoor2031 3 роки тому +39

    Also the different colour analysis rules totally contradict each other depending on who you ask

    • @LindaengelustrupBlogspot
      @LindaengelustrupBlogspot Рік тому +1

      And their knowledge and experience ...

    • @RosePierce.
      @RosePierce. Рік тому

      Yes as an olive person I’m winter as a blonde I’m summer but I’m both

    • @annnee6818
      @annnee6818 Рік тому +6

      And you might not get the same result from two analyses and you'll be much poorer after. Seems like a scam to me

    • @SueRosalie
      @SueRosalie Рік тому

      @@annnee6818 it's no scam, it's just that there are too many people with insufficient training and experience and getting it wrong. Done correctly with the best system is really is beneficial and straight forward.

    • @SueRosalie
      @SueRosalie Рік тому

      @@RosePierce. true olive skin is always Winter

  • @RosePierce.
    @RosePierce. Рік тому +10

    At this point I just find what kind of colors naturally occur in my features and find whatever compliments those. It’s simple it’s old-fashioned but it’s highly effective .

    • @kitty_s23456
      @kitty_s23456 Рік тому +1

      @rose - your system is more in tune with the Zyla color system. David Zyla labels colors such as your essence, dramatic, romantic, 1st base, 2nd base, etc - accdg to colors found in your face & body. I think for those with white/ Eurocentric features, the system works well. However, if you're a POC, it will be 50 shades of brown = not too applicable or exciting.

    • @RosePierce.
      @RosePierce. Рік тому

      @@kitty_s23456 thanks for recommending me the system. I think it doesn’t even work for all of Europeans I have an olive skin tone so it consistently fails for me despite being ethnically southern European.!

    • @kitty_s23456
      @kitty_s23456 Рік тому

      @@RosePierce. you're welcome. The channel of Ellie Jean Royden has a good vid abt the Zyla system - it's called "finding your true colors" or similar. I don't follow the Zyla system (maybe only for essence & romantic) because for the other colors, it would be shades of brown or black - too limiting. I prefer my season in the 12 season system. Whatever works for you, so good luck! 😊

  • @marise-cellardoor2031
    @marise-cellardoor2031 3 роки тому +31

    Yeah the seasonal colour analysis works with creating harmony - but sometimes you want to get contrast in an outfit :) it’s helpful to a degree, especially when building a capsule wardrobe, but rules are there to be broken. After wasting hours and hours trying to work out my colour season, I’m no closer 😂 neutral cool redhead here.

    • @SueRosalie
      @SueRosalie Рік тому

      natural redheads are always the warm seasons. The bad systems are confusing people.

  • @iidamyrskyvalkea8494
    @iidamyrskyvalkea8494 10 місяців тому +1

    For me personally the adding of more seasons made it clearer what my actual palette would be: muted first of all but neither very cool or warm, maybe a little bit warmer. Bright colours and black and white all wash me out, warm or cool, same thing. Did I need the seasonal analysis to find this out? No but it helped. It's a tool. Clothing is more than just finding the colours that suit you. You can be playful and create effects. Seasonal colour analysis is a bit like horoscope - some people take it way too seriously. I love my perfect muted palette but I also love neon colours!

  • @Just_Kirsty
    @Just_Kirsty Рік тому +1

    I see seasonal color analysis as a tool. You learn the rules and CAN learn how to break them in order to create a specific visual image of yourself - a fashion look or editorial style. E.g. I'm a light spring (I actually got my colors done) and if I wanna look grungy, I simply just wear autumn colors. It works like a charm and is easy and effortless. But most of the time I actually prefer wearing colors from my own palette. It doesn't really matter if you wanna go with your own palette or just learn how to play around with other palettes to create the most unique personal style you absolutely love for yourself and your personality and vibe - and your personal aesthetic. If one already knows how to do it, SCA is absolutely not necessary, but if one has no idea and wants to learn it, a color consultant can absolutely help with that. To me looking like a vampire is super easy - dark colors make me look unlively and even more pale than I already am, they make my skin appear greyed and I just need to add a bit of coverage and darker, cool toned eye make up and the look is easily completed. That's why I love SCA, I can play around with all the knowledge I got from it and create whatever image I fancy. I love doing photo shoots and it is very helpful for that in an artistic and actually very creative way. SCA has actually brought me back to playing around with colors and style again.

  • @ec8335
    @ec8335 3 роки тому +41

    Here's another additional reason why I don't use seasonal colour analysis: it is maddeningly Eurocentric. According to this theory, while Europeans (which includes Americans/Canadians/Australians/New Zealanders of European descent) apparently come in all 4 seasons and have such nuanced colourings that we must make a distinction even between strawberry blonde versus an ash blonde -- the rest of the non-European world (who have mainly dark hair and dark eyes) are all lumped into "Winter" (or sometimes "Deep Autumn"). That's basically a subtle way of implying that whereas European appearances fall in a spectrum, everyone else in the rest of the world all look the same. That's pretty racist, to be honest, even if it wasn't intentionally racist. Just think about it -- according to seasonal colour analysis, a light-skinned Japanese and a medium-skinned Indian and a deeper-skinned African are ALL "Winters" and all supposedly look best in the SAME kinds of colours? How does that even make sense? (On the other hand, when it comes to Europeans, a Strawberry Blonde and an Ash Blonde are supposedly so vastly different from each other that they belong to different seasons and have different palettes.) And I don't even think it's true. I see many non-Europeans wearing "non-Winter" colours -- and (gasp!) even pale "Summer" pastels or bright warm "Spring" colours -- and I think they often look fabulous in those colours.
    This lack of inclusivity and this utter failure to acknowledge that people of colour also belong to a very wide spectrum of colouring -- that's a huge problem with the seasonal colour analysis theory that not enough people acknowledge. In fact, if we look a skin tones, people of colour often have much greater variation in skin tones than Europeans do -- and yet we're to believe they're all supposed to look best only in "Winter" colours just because they have dark hair and dark eyes.

    • @yuliatsezar7219
      @yuliatsezar7219  3 роки тому +12

      I agree completely! It’s a very outdated ‘system’. When I was researching the topic the lack of diversity shocked me to be honest. But then again it was a book from the 1970s.. I can see how it was a novelty in the western world back then but it’s a bit comical to see influences still talking about it today! It looks like the world slowly but steadily is going to an era where all types of systems that put a big group if people in a box will be regarded as archaic. Or at least I hope they will!
      Thank you for a great comment by the way!

    • @KC-kb4pz
      @KC-kb4pz 2 роки тому +14

      Idk if that’s the 70s version you’re referring to but I’ve seen poc being put in other categories. Winter is a mainly cool season and there are plenty of warmer skin tones that aren’t just Caucasian.

    • @Paulismyhero777
      @Paulismyhero777 2 роки тому +5

      Dark/brown hair is only considered a "dark" or "high contrast" feature if it is much darker than the natural skintone, so a brown person with brown hair and eyes might still be considered a person soft or muted coloring

    • @MsAlatariel91
      @MsAlatariel91 2 роки тому +6

      Actually in East Asia (Japan, Korea etc) have made the seasonal coloring applicable to their people. Although I find it still confusing as I am Southeast Asian with olive skin tone 😅

    • @SueRosalie
      @SueRosalie Рік тому

      @@Paulismyhero777 yes but those people still have high depth of colouring so they are never going to be spring or summer. In any case those people always read quite warm and are deep autumns anyway

  • @aliciamcmurray-smith3780
    @aliciamcmurray-smith3780 Рік тому +2

    I know I’m a little late to the game as I just found this video, but THANK YOU for making it! Seasonal color analysis has literally become the bane of my existence lately. I’ve been told I’m a summer, and pastels are literally my least favorite colors (have been for as long as I can remember). I also have several black dresses that I get a ton of compliments in, so I just think the whole thing is too limiting and probably not accurate for most people.

  • @ernestonunez2400
    @ernestonunez2400 Рік тому +2

    Well honestly I need to say that I agree with you definitely,my first point is Does an expensive analysis really works?because if some colors are supposed to make you look better it is also supposed to be noticeable to everyone not just to a professional.
    Second point ,that is amazing in the theory but honestly is not so good as that in real life,I mean it is really hard sometimes to find every color for the common people.
    And my third point,as you said is imposible to categories in 13 or 16 seasons more that 7 billions of people, everyone has different distributions of colors and undertones,so yes it is impossible to categorize every single person.
    And summarizing I think that really works but not at all,I think color analysis should exist and each analysis should be personalized to everyone,and determine in your personal case what hair color and clothes color suits the most,I don't think it is 100% useless but it doesn't mean that is actually the best option anyways.
    For example Ariana Grande,some people say she is a dark winter and that makes sense because she looks great in dark colors and the platinum blonde was great (suitable color to dark winter)but why does her looks great too with brown hair that most of the time is warm color so what is her true seassonal

  • @violetmoon2283
    @violetmoon2283 Рік тому +3

    Really the main problem in my view is the misinformation about color typing. Your hair and eye color really has almost nothing to do with it. You could argue that they factor into contrast, but that's really it. You shouldn't judge a system like this based on what ill informed people say about it and how they use it. There are people who are actually certified in color typing, and they will tell you that your hair color, or the color of your veins means absolutely nothing.

    • @SueRosalie
      @SueRosalie Рік тому +2

      Yes the vein colour theory is nonsense. Skin undertone is fundamental. Eye and hair colour comes into it only after you've determined whether undertone is warm or cool and you can see the level of intensity. You just use the eyes to see the effect colour has on them, not as a diagnostic tool. And natural hair colour just to help judge level of contrast and intensity.

    • @nedafurunovic5204
      @nedafurunovic5204 Рік тому +3

      ​​​​@@SueRosalieBut it should be scientifically proven or examined. Otherwise, it's only a theory. For example: Does skin thickness have influence on one's skin undertone? Thick skin does have an extra epidermal layer called the stratum lucidum, which is absent in thin skin and so on. Also, reflection of light (colours) happens on the surface of your skin, not "under" your skin. Also, such theories can have an effect by limiting individual artistic expression and creativity.

  • @ropytube
    @ropytube 2 роки тому +4

    You’d look GREAT in the bright colours you showed 💓

  • @a91170
    @a91170 3 роки тому +31

    I think you're Spring, not Summer

    • @marise-cellardoor2031
      @marise-cellardoor2031 3 роки тому +4

      Yeah for real!

    • @cynthiahamil9801
      @cynthiahamil9801 2 роки тому +8

      I agree. You look much more like a Spring than a Summer. I would test Light Spring because I feel like you can also wear pink shades of lipsticks too. If you feel that the Spring shades are too bright for you, I would also test for Gentle Spring and Soft Autumn. You may be right on the cusp of Light Spring and Light Summer - because your eyes look to be blue, but your hair and skin look to be leaning more warm.
      All of the seasons have their own Reds, Blues, Greens, Purples, etc...
      I would have your colors done by a system that actually uses the drapes where you can clearly see which colors look the absolute BEST on you. It can make a HUGE DIFFERENCE when you are in the RIGHT SHADES VS Marginal Colors that really don't play up your beauty all that much.
      You are definitely "Light" - So I would definitely test the light seasons first - Summer and Spring -- and I would also look at whether you wear muted or clear colors best. If you wear muted colors best - I would consider the softer/more muted shades of Soft Summer and Gentle Spring... possibly also looking into Soft Autumn (because there are some blonds that also fall into this category, like Margot Robbie, for instance).
      If you are still questioning the color analysis theories, you just haven't been color typed in the right season yet.
      When you actually see the drapes going from one color to the other - you will clearly SEE that there are certain colors that are much better on you - and make your skin glow and look more healthy - and other colors will cast shadows on your skin making you look older or less healthy. You are so young that you may not see the effects as easily as someone with more age.
      Color Analysis works, most definitely -
      You need to find someone using drapes - for sure.
      Try Color Me Beautiful and House of Color - both of those use the draping methods.

    • @arlenewhittington
      @arlenewhittington 2 роки тому +2

      I agree shes a spring for sure

    • @LindaengelustrupBlogspot
      @LindaengelustrupBlogspot Рік тому

      She could be using self tan, colored contact lenses or hair toner which could effect the result too?

    • @annnee6818
      @annnee6818 Рік тому +4

      ​@@LindaengelustrupBlogspot Or the whole "theory" is a load of hooey.

  • @SueRosalie
    @SueRosalie Рік тому +3

    Once you have your seasonal palette, it's not limiting at all and in fact the reverse is true. You have more options yet with fewer clothes because everything works together. You don't have to keep buying extra accessories to go with new things in colours that do not co ordinate.

  • @lesliegonzalez2858
    @lesliegonzalez2858 Рік тому +1

    I stick to four seasons. I offer a very basic color analysis and you fall on a season the twelve seasons are so confusing and they bring in colors from other seasons that make no sense. For instance, a deep winter can wear gold but winters don’t look good in gold. It’s also a money making scheme when they extend the process they charge you more A LOT MORE. It does confuse people and I think people need to keep in mind you won’t always find those colors and those that do the twelve seasons if you look at their wardrobes they only stick to very few colors. I personally believe you should stick to your colors because overall you look better but the twelve seasons are just in my opinion ridiculous.

    • @SueRosalie
      @SueRosalie Рік тому

      The best system has the 4 true seasons plus 3 subgroups in each which caters to people who have a dominant characteristic rather than a balance of the three. It really does work and it's logical. Shopping is easier once you develop your eye and you need fewer things. Study here: www.youtube.com/@colouranalysis_studio

  • @DrHihi
    @DrHihi 2 роки тому +5

    you are bright spring ( bright warm light)

  • @aarnagarg7608
    @aarnagarg7608 2 роки тому +1

    you are so damm true

  • @ОльгаЦезарь-ж6к
    @ОльгаЦезарь-ж6к 4 роки тому +1

    👍👍💕