I got my first reef tank when I was eight years old, it was a ~3 gallon gimmick tank called the "bio bubble". It was one of those acrylic dome tanks that you keep jellyfish in. It had accordion-folded walls that would stretch up to the water level so the dome could be removed for maintenance. Needless, to say, I had a lot of fun with that tank. I read and re-read all of my reefing magazines and books every day, and the highlight of my week was when I went to the aquarium store to get something new. The same exact fun followed me from the 3g to the 24g, I was loving it. Then I started doing things on R2R, posted a build thread, and my bubble broke. My perfect little tank was a 'newbie tank' because I wasn't growing $1000 acros or keeping candy basslets. I was embarrassed, and started buying things that the 'popular' reefers had, despite not liking them. Bigger and bigger tanks, but I never sought my vision in full. I've begun to return to my roots, I think. I spend far more time reading than I did before, and though I do use Instagram from time to time, those tanks are their tanks, not mine. I'm more than happy collecting weirdo inverts and 'ugly' brown fish because they are what keep me intrigued. Can't wait for Reefstock TN! Love the Chattanooga aquarium, used to go all the time as a kid. It's so incredibly magical.
Enjoyed the show. I've been in the hobby for 30 years. For me, it's way more fun now than in the past. With today's technology, much more information and connections. Only con for me is the elevated prices on some of the hottest coral but if you wait a couple of years you can still have them. I don't need to flex by buying $1000 polyps.
Great chat fellas! I guess if you pay attention to forums and certain content creators, it’s not as fun, but then there are shows like RT and Reef Beef that keep you engaged and feed your nostalgic mind. I love oddball corals and animals, but I also love the “simple” corals too. The fact that we can keep these animals in glass boxes in our homes is still fucking cool. I love face to face interactions with fellow hobbyists, it’s what keeps me engaged and hopefully keep others passionate about the hobby. Cheers!
Thank you Raj. I really needed that. I get to comparing my tank to others and all these great tanks on the socials. Only been in hobby for just over a year. Getting first split on my frogspawn ever. My mushrooms r splitting, everything is starting to grow (don’t got a lot of coral yet) but comparing to last year me I’m doing great and learned a lot. Keep the hobby alive, love you all for taking over what jake left over it’s fkn amazing ❤ 🔥.
Honestly....GOOD. FOR. YOU! I love that you do that. There are probably thousands of hidden gem systems because some hobbyists just want to keep it to themselves. ~Remy
I’ve been in the hobby for 45 years. I’m proud of being an old time reefer and hobbyist. I’m proud of my achievements over the years. I sometimes feel it isn’t as fun as it once was. Why? social media. Times change, I get it, however, there use to be more mutual respect among our community before social media platforms. It’s changed. You can learn more in an hour buy reading an article in coral magazine than watching alot of content creators online. I have a great deal of knowledge from my years of keeping fish and coral, but I rarely post or share as I don’t have time to deal with uranus reef keepers.
I started in the hobby around 5 years now. I started off learning from forums, and youtube videos mainly. Looking back, the more I was on social media the more I found myself focusing on the wrong things and was not getting good, vital information I needed. Reef2reef didn't teach me anything besides to stay away from forums. I learned so much from making mistakes and turned to buying books for the questions I had. I wish I did that when I bought my first fish and coral.
"Just as much fun", really depends on personal goals and proficiency level. I know, I have the most fun setting up a new system, or when I'm diving in and learning about a new aspect. That is the point where I am most engaged as a hobbyist. But, that's not everyday. And I am the least enthusiastic when I'm managing pests or quarantining new livestock. Which is critical, but it's also tedious and puts me off as a reef keeper. For the most part, this hobby is really about watching what you've built grow; and I think too many of us forget that: Letting your box of water become it's own partial ecosystem. Watching juvenile fish mature. Seeing a coral frag reach colony size. Seeing an invert spawn and watching the second or third generation establish. It is always enjoyable, and that is the core of reefing.
But, it's not always the main points of discussion in this hobby. Content creators tend to focus on new set-up's, or new equipment, or new coral; because that change and debate drives interest and generates new content. And frankly it's more exciting. But that content inundated us (as content creators drive most of the discussion), and that feeling of New-new-new starts to become the perception. Browsing social media and seeing jaw dropping photos of corals imparts nothing about that path taken to reach it. Photo-editing? Year's spent managing pests? Tedious hours into nutrient management, spot-feedings, & water quality? Let along waiting for the coral to grow? We just see a photo and think that's were we're supposed to be. Yet the best content is still an overview of a 10 year or 15 year old thriving tank, and understanding how that hobbyist did it, knowing how long it took them. It's not a video that can be cranked out each week, as it takes 10 or 15 years of prep. And it's also one of the things Jake did so well, he'd put out a video on nothing more than periodic maintenance and coral trimming. Because he never lost sight of the core hobby. He'd just take viewers on a journey of those in-between years, watching the tanks grow. That's one of the reason the Reef Builders studio is so awesome, you can capture the less exciting but foundational part of the hobby on a multitude of tanks. And it has a grounding effect. And on the flip side, do I really want “excitement” to be the main goal? Mark hits it on the head at around 47:00. Is my goal a dopamine hit??? For some, maybe. But for me, no. I personally prefer “relaxation” over excitement. I love this hobby most when I can walk up to my tank, sit in my recliner, and get lost watching it. It’s meditative and helps me manage stress. And that optimal point is somewhere in-between. There’s not much new going on, just growth. And yet, they're aren’t many problems either. It’s just stable. Which sounds completely boring, but it’s by far the most relaxing point of my reefing hobby. And that is when I enjoy it most.
This is why i joined local clubs, In person meet up is so much better than social media, i love my freshwater club and reef club, going to other club members houses and seeing their fishroom in person, asking questions and just having a good time. Our freshwater club started a local yearly event, this year is our 3rd year. We weren't sure what the turnout would be, but were blown away by the turnout, I can't remember the exact number but over 1,000 people showed up on our first year, for a one day event. Last year we did 2 days and right now it's 100% freshwater. I did ask some of the local saltwater shops, I'm very hopeful for one to be a vendor!! I know last year i had alot of people asking to see saltwater but were disappointed its all freshwater. So I'm trying to bring all of the aquarium lovers together, It's not easy but I'm not going down quietly!! Love the session guys!!
Another great Therapy Session! I was bullied when I was a kid too! I use to be terrified of posting on groups! Now I post everyday, with kindness and politeness and as much researched information as possible with as many links as possible! October 2nd is World Day of Bullying Prevention! Do with that as you may! 😊 See y’all on Session 75!
I find Dark Mark entertaining, I appreciate his point of view. Actually he and Jake where the first Utube/pod cast talks that really resonated with me. I was heavily involved in the hobby from 1985-1997 when I moved across country and then life got in the way of starting up again. The bug has hit me in my old age and I have the added incentive that my 9 yo grandson is interested in learning and helping me. It’s been interesting catching up with what I have missed in the last 25 years, guess I won’t be building anymore 5’ counter current air stone protien skimmers 😂
It’s definitely all hobbies , like Mark said stepping back from social media getting mindful with your aquarium , being curious and grateful is the antidote to burnout. Personal goals also help but you can only setup so many tanks. I’m a new reef hobbiest and I can say I have LOVED the last 9 months of reefing. I am so grateful for Jake ,reef builders, and reef therapy for slicing through all the online bullshit and getting me to the fundamentals of reef keeping.
@Raj Still waiting for the Lifestyle shirts! Especially since you're rethinking your new build 😆 Definitely need Reef Therapy character themed stickers too 🪸
In Ottawa Canada had days of severe smoke warnings. PH was rock steady or no notable change. I wonder if those affected closed their windows and stayed indoors raising C02.
I wish there was an actual reefing club nearby that actually met or did activities. Clubs and social groups of all types have been on the decline since the 60's. The book 'Bowling Alone' by Robert Putnam is all about this, and is an extremely sobering read.
It seems to me that the hobby is mainly about creating. Making something beautiful or unique or successful, not necessarily keeping that creation static or keeping it going once successful.
I'd agree entirely. Or at least, I'd agree it's the focus of content creators, and those who post on media. In other words, you nailed the focus of those who drive the public conversation. However, for many, this hobby is about keeping these animals thriving long-term. That just doesn't seem to be a sexy conversation to drive interest.... How's your tank? "oh great. no changes, same corals as last time. They've just grown another 6 inches"... That's a dream answer for many, but it doesn't make viral video's week after week.
IN PERSON for sure. Don't get me wrong, we love our Reef Builders community but there's something about being at a Reefstock that makes interaction so much better! ~Remy
I think the Hobby is much better since the knowledge of keeping stuff alive is so much better than when I started back in 1988. Yes I agree that the social media ball busters are a drag but I just ignore and block that stuff. People tend to grow balls behind the keyboard and don't necessarily say stuff if they were in person. This is probably why things seemed better IRL club meetings. As far as topics I have always been trying to create a dedicated clam tank and use it as a filter for my system but is it me or clams are just not as hardy as they used to be? I used to keep clams for over 10 years in a low tech deep sand bed tank with metal halides doing absolutely no water changes and no water testing. Now I have auto water testing and better filters they just don't last as long or they tend to be super sensitive. I have a lot of hobbies too including building guitars and figure painting. I'm just a collector I guess.
Jake did a clam filter at one point. You just gave me an interesting idea, as I'm trying to figure out what to do with a derasa that is taking up a lot of space... Maybe I move it to the refugium.
There are a couple - the easiest is probably gonna be super glue GEL. Has to be the gel though. The next would be any 2 part epoxy you'd find through a Premium Aquatics or online retailer. ~Remy
Hey been following along for a while looking forward to hearing the updates I had a question possibly for next episode how do you guys measure success in the hobby?
I hope I don't fall into one of those Instagramers.. I try to take real daily pics and keep a majority of old-school corals. The hobby is so so much more fun theses days. I remember being amazed by blue discoma, gsp and monticaps. Now a new aquarist has so many corals/ fish to choose from and so many methods and equipment to play with including DIY with 3d printers for example.
I agree there are those outliers that are making comments because they can.. “key board commandos” but there are folks out there looking to help. I think more locally in person thing would be great. Like at a local LFS… wink wink Remy😂
I wouldn’t mind paying a small yearly fee for a forum that didn’t require sponsors. It would filter out a lot of the trolls and remove the “diamond level sponsor” bias. The money could go to some non-profit after paying for site maintenance fees.
@Remy do what I did I took pictures of the process of getting my new tank up, posted them after the tank was running 1 month later, This way you don't have to worry about the trolls and judgement of social media . I highly recommend doing it, saves you the stress of people's jealousy 😂😂😂😂😂
Oh I'm documenting! Slowly but surely gonna get this tank in place. Just silly you have to think about it ya know? Just want to enjoy this beautiful and be educated, not talked down to. ~Remy
Yes I agree enjoy the good parts and take your time, I've been in the Reef hobby since 2012 and took a break in 2017 from Reefing but kept my Cichlids tanks going and started keeping Corals in 2020 since I was home now I have an over grown Mix reef.
@@johnwright40 purely based on anecdotal evidence...they do not. At least I never caught mine eating aiptasia. I'm fairly certain that's why I picked him up, now that I think about it. Dude is a spaz. I remember going to feed the tank one night and that little guy was staring back me..perched on the wave maker - OUT OF THE WATER. lol. ~Remy
I know people who have added one and it cleared up their infested tank in a week. Maybe it's just some that ear aiptasia. Thanks for your comment though Remy
I'd be afraid that a big Molly Miller would be mean as hell. There are a lot of not so nice bennies out there. Cheers, Chris Teaching kids about global warming and ocean acidification with corals in the classroom.
I would genuinely cherish an Autograph from mark, he’s been a huge inspiration to me throughout my reefing experience!
I got my first reef tank when I was eight years old, it was a ~3 gallon gimmick tank called the "bio bubble". It was one of those acrylic dome tanks that you keep jellyfish in. It had accordion-folded walls that would stretch up to the water level so the dome could be removed for maintenance. Needless, to say, I had a lot of fun with that tank. I read and re-read all of my reefing magazines and books every day, and the highlight of my week was when I went to the aquarium store to get something new. The same exact fun followed me from the 3g to the 24g, I was loving it.
Then I started doing things on R2R, posted a build thread, and my bubble broke. My perfect little tank was a 'newbie tank' because I wasn't growing $1000 acros or keeping candy basslets. I was embarrassed, and started buying things that the 'popular' reefers had, despite not liking them. Bigger and bigger tanks, but I never sought my vision in full.
I've begun to return to my roots, I think. I spend far more time reading than I did before, and though I do use Instagram from time to time, those tanks are their tanks, not mine. I'm more than happy collecting weirdo inverts and 'ugly' brown fish because they are what keep me intrigued.
Can't wait for Reefstock TN! Love the Chattanooga aquarium, used to go all the time as a kid. It's so incredibly magical.
Enjoyed the show. I've been in the hobby for 30 years. For me, it's way more fun now than in the past. With today's technology, much more information and connections. Only con for me is the elevated prices on some of the hottest coral but if you wait a couple of years you can still have them. I don't need to flex by buying $1000 polyps.
Great session!
I love Reef Therapy 2.0 : Frat House
Gosh, yeah...we need to lift our conversation to level of Master's Students or something. At least a teacher's aid! lol ~Remy
Good ep guys. This one reminded me of the old RT sessions, rants and just telling it how it is. Keep it up guys
Great chat fellas! I guess if you pay attention to forums and certain content creators, it’s not as fun, but then there are shows like RT and Reef Beef that keep you engaged and feed your nostalgic mind. I love oddball corals and animals, but I also love the “simple” corals too. The fact that we can keep these animals in glass boxes in our homes is still fucking cool. I love face to face interactions with fellow hobbyists, it’s what keeps me engaged and hopefully keep others passionate about the hobby. Cheers!
Thank you Raj. I really needed that. I get to comparing my tank to others and all these great tanks on the socials.
Only been in hobby for just over a year. Getting first split on my frogspawn ever. My mushrooms r splitting, everything is starting to grow (don’t got a lot of coral yet) but comparing to last year me I’m doing great and learned a lot.
Keep the hobby alive, love you all for taking over what jake left over it’s fkn amazing ❤ 🔥.
Ive kept this hobby to myself for the most part and that keeps it fun for me. Just here for the info. great work fellas!
Honestly....GOOD. FOR. YOU! I love that you do that. There are probably thousands of hidden gem systems because some hobbyists just want to keep it to themselves. ~Remy
I’ve been in the hobby for 45 years. I’m proud of being an old time reefer and hobbyist. I’m proud of my achievements over the years.
I sometimes feel it isn’t as fun as it once was. Why? social media. Times change, I get it, however, there use to be more mutual respect among our community before social media platforms. It’s changed. You can learn more in an hour buy reading an article in coral magazine than watching alot of content creators online.
I have a great deal of knowledge from my years of keeping fish and coral, but I rarely post or share as I don’t have time to deal with uranus reef keepers.
I started in the hobby around 5 years now. I started off learning from forums, and youtube videos mainly. Looking back, the more I was on social media the more I found myself focusing on the wrong things and was not getting good, vital information I needed. Reef2reef didn't teach me anything besides to stay away from forums. I learned so much from making mistakes and turned to buying books for the questions I had. I wish I did that when I bought my first fish and coral.
"Just as much fun", really depends on personal goals and proficiency level.
I know, I have the most fun setting up a new system, or when I'm diving in and learning about a new aspect. That is the point where I am most engaged as a hobbyist. But, that's not everyday.
And I am the least enthusiastic when I'm managing pests or quarantining new livestock. Which is critical, but it's also tedious and puts me off as a reef keeper.
For the most part, this hobby is really about watching what you've built grow; and I think too many of us forget that: Letting your box of water become it's own partial ecosystem. Watching juvenile fish mature. Seeing a coral frag reach colony size. Seeing an invert spawn and watching the second or third generation establish. It is always enjoyable, and that is the core of reefing.
But, it's not always the main points of discussion in this hobby. Content creators tend to focus on new set-up's, or new equipment, or new coral; because that change and debate drives interest and generates new content. And frankly it's more exciting. But that content inundated us (as content creators drive most of the discussion), and that feeling of New-new-new starts to become the perception. Browsing social media and seeing jaw dropping photos of corals imparts nothing about that path taken to reach it. Photo-editing? Year's spent managing pests? Tedious hours into nutrient management, spot-feedings, & water quality? Let along waiting for the coral to grow? We just see a photo and think that's were we're supposed to be.
Yet the best content is still an overview of a 10 year or 15 year old thriving tank, and understanding how that hobbyist did it, knowing how long it took them. It's not a video that can be cranked out each week, as it takes 10 or 15 years of prep. And it's also one of the things Jake did so well, he'd put out a video on nothing more than periodic maintenance and coral trimming. Because he never lost sight of the core hobby. He'd just take viewers on a journey of those in-between years, watching the tanks grow. That's one of the reason the Reef Builders studio is so awesome, you can capture the less exciting but foundational part of the hobby on a multitude of tanks. And it has a grounding effect.
And on the flip side, do I really want “excitement” to be the main goal? Mark hits it on the head at around 47:00. Is my goal a dopamine hit??? For some, maybe. But for me, no.
I personally prefer “relaxation” over excitement. I love this hobby most when I can walk up to my tank, sit in my recliner, and get lost watching it. It’s meditative and helps me manage stress. And that optimal point is somewhere in-between. There’s not much new going on, just growth. And yet, they're aren’t many problems either. It’s just stable. Which sounds completely boring, but it’s by far the most relaxing point of my reefing hobby. And that is when I enjoy it most.
This is why i joined local clubs, In person meet up is so much better than social media, i love my freshwater club and reef club, going to other club members houses and seeing their fishroom in person, asking questions and just having a good time.
Our freshwater club started a local yearly event, this year is our 3rd year. We weren't sure what the turnout would be, but were blown away by the turnout, I can't remember the exact number but over 1,000 people showed up on our first year, for a one day event. Last year we did 2 days and right now it's 100% freshwater.
I did ask some of the local saltwater shops, I'm very hopeful for one to be a vendor!! I know last year i had alot of people asking to see saltwater but were disappointed its all freshwater. So I'm trying to bring all of the aquarium lovers together, It's not easy but I'm not going down quietly!!
Love the session guys!!
Another great Therapy Session! I was bullied when I was a kid too! I use to be terrified of posting on groups! Now I post everyday, with kindness and politeness and as much researched information as possible with as many links as possible! October 2nd is World Day of Bullying Prevention! Do with that as you may! 😊 See y’all on Session 75!
I find Dark Mark entertaining, I appreciate his point of view. Actually he and Jake where the first Utube/pod cast talks that really resonated with me. I was heavily involved in the hobby from 1985-1997 when I moved across country and then life got in the way of starting up again. The bug has hit me in my old age and I have the added incentive that my 9 yo grandson is interested in learning and helping me. It’s been interesting catching up with what I have missed in the last 25 years, guess I won’t be building anymore 5’ counter current air stone protien skimmers 😂
It’s definitely all hobbies , like Mark said stepping back from social media getting mindful with your aquarium , being curious and grateful is the antidote to burnout. Personal goals also help but you can only setup so many tanks.
I’m a new reef hobbiest and I can say I have LOVED the last 9 months of reefing. I am so grateful for Jake ,reef builders, and reef therapy for slicing through all the online bullshit and getting me to the fundamentals of reef keeping.
Sweet! Popcorn later tonight.
OMG when you brush against a gorgonian. I like the cream corn smell of SPS.
Good talk guys. Love the conversation my therapy for a week. #darkmark T-shirt please 😂.
@Raj Still waiting for the Lifestyle shirts! Especially since you're rethinking your new build 😆
Definitely need Reef Therapy character themed stickers too 🪸
You three never fail to entertain! I appreciate you guys! Made digging through the rats nest that my son calls a room much more pleasant 😆
In Ottawa Canada had days of severe smoke warnings. PH was rock steady or no notable change. I wonder if those affected closed their windows and stayed indoors raising C02.
I wish there was an actual reefing club nearby that actually met or did activities. Clubs and social groups of all types have been on the decline since the 60's. The book 'Bowling Alone' by Robert Putnam is all about this, and is an extremely sobering read.
Good to know it' started PRE social media. I'm gonna pick up that book and will report back. ~Remy
It seems to me that the hobby is mainly about creating. Making something beautiful or unique or successful, not necessarily keeping that creation static or keeping it going once successful.
I'd agree entirely. Or at least, I'd agree it's the focus of content creators, and those who post on media. In other words, you nailed the focus of those who drive the public conversation.
However, for many, this hobby is about keeping these animals thriving long-term. That just doesn't seem to be a sexy conversation to drive interest....
How's your tank? "oh great. no changes, same corals as last time. They've just grown another 6 inches"... That's a dream answer for many, but it doesn't make viral video's week after week.
Reefing is the most fun with a local club or community to connect with in person, Trade, bounce ideas, share tools etc.
IN PERSON for sure. Don't get me wrong, we love our Reef Builders community but there's something about being at a Reefstock that makes interaction so much better! ~Remy
There's Atlanta reef club (ARC) it's the biggest in GA. I drive 3 hrs because Alabama don't have any. Mark and Raj should join.
Next they will be crossing goldflakes and kingi. Golden Tigers!
I think the Hobby is much better since the knowledge of keeping stuff alive is so much better than when I started back in 1988. Yes I agree that the social media ball busters are a drag but I just ignore and block that stuff. People tend to grow balls behind the keyboard and don't necessarily say stuff if they were in person. This is probably why things seemed better IRL club meetings.
As far as topics I have always been trying to create a dedicated clam tank and use it as a filter for my system but is it me or clams are just not as hardy as they used to be? I used to keep clams for over 10 years in a low tech deep sand bed tank with metal halides doing absolutely no water changes and no water testing. Now I have auto water testing and better filters they just don't last as long or they tend to be super sensitive.
I have a lot of hobbies too including building guitars and figure painting. I'm just a collector I guess.
Jake did a clam filter at one point. You just gave me an interesting idea, as I'm trying to figure out what to do with a derasa that is taking up a lot of space... Maybe I move it to the refugium.
I laughed out loud at the Blackrock comment! 🤣🤣
I have a quick, probably dumb question: “What is the best nontoxic plug adhesive that you use on your corals?
There are a couple - the easiest is probably gonna be super glue GEL. Has to be the gel though. The next would be any 2 part epoxy you'd find through a Premium Aquatics or online retailer. ~Remy
When’s the tickets coming out for Chattanooga? Can’t wait
All that is coming soon! We're super excited! ~Remy
Hey been following along for a while looking forward to hearing the updates I had a question possibly for next episode how do you guys measure success in the hobby?
This is a good one!! Thank you for listening! ~Remy
Jake and Mark did a whole EP on that subject.
@@atkinsnatureaquariums3552 thanks I will try to find it while at work tmr lol
@@BryznsReef it's EP #30 if that helps
@@atkinsnatureaquariums3552 appreciate ya
I have wildhair ideas and theoretical design I play around with as far as flow and life support, but I avoid posting on the forums because of trolls.
Sucks but it's part of the social media reality. Would love to hear if any of those wild hair ideas turn into any breakthroughs for you! ~Remy
I am literally the only reef keeper in my city here in norther Mexico... 😂
We gotta see pics of your tank! ~Remy
I hope I don't fall into one of those Instagramers.. I try to take real daily pics and keep a majority of old-school corals. The hobby is so so much more fun theses days. I remember being amazed by blue discoma, gsp and monticaps. Now a new aquarist has so many corals/ fish to choose from and so many methods and equipment to play with including DIY with 3d printers for example.
I love your content on IG. Mature corals, healthy fish, and stellar build.
@@markvanderwal8103 Thank you Mark much appreciated.
I agree there are those outliers that are making comments because they can.. “key board commandos” but there are folks out there looking to help. I think more locally in person thing would be great. Like at a local LFS… wink wink Remy😂
We definitely need to set something up! That would be fun! ~Remy
I wouldn’t mind paying a small yearly fee for a forum that didn’t require sponsors. It would filter out a lot of the trolls and remove the “diamond level sponsor” bias. The money could go to some non-profit after paying for site maintenance fees.
I agree, I'd gladly pay for a forum without sponsors or live sales.
@Remy do what I did I took pictures of the process of getting my new tank up, posted them after the tank was running 1 month later, This way you don't have to worry about the trolls and judgement of social media . I highly recommend doing it, saves you the stress of people's jealousy 😂😂😂😂😂
Oh I'm documenting! Slowly but surely gonna get this tank in place. Just silly you have to think about it ya know? Just want to enjoy this beautiful and be educated, not talked down to. ~Remy
Yes I agree enjoy the good parts and take your time, I've been in the Reef hobby since 2012 and took a break in 2017 from Reefing but kept my Cichlids tanks going and started keeping Corals in 2020 since I was home now I have an over grown Mix reef.
It's bud light
It was Bud Select! But close. ~Remy
Remember. I thought molly miller blennies eat aiptasia and sometimes bubble algae
REMY
@@johnwright40 purely based on anecdotal evidence...they do not. At least I never caught mine eating aiptasia. I'm fairly certain that's why I picked him up, now that I think about it. Dude is a spaz. I remember going to feed the tank one night and that little guy was staring back me..perched on the wave maker - OUT OF THE WATER. lol. ~Remy
I know people who have added one and it cleared up their infested tank in a week. Maybe it's just some that ear aiptasia. Thanks for your comment though Remy
I'd be afraid that a big Molly Miller would be mean as hell. There are a lot of not so nice bennies out there.
Cheers,
Chris
Teaching kids about global warming and ocean acidification with corals in the classroom.
💐 "promosm"