Lucid Sapphire Smashes Tesla Plaid's Acceleration - 2 Jasons 1 Car

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  • The Lucid Air Sapphire Beats The Tesla Model S Plaid Hands Down
    Jason Cammisa joins Jason Fenske for a drive in the Lucid Air Sapphire!
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    When MotorTrend tested the Model S Plaid in 2021, they broke all production car records. 0-60 in 1.98 seconds - with a long list of unique variables, including a prepared surface with VHT (glue), and deleting the first foot of rollout. Astonishingly, the Lucid can match that number, on a public road! The Lucid Air Sapphire's acceleration is certifiably bonkers.
    Jason Fenske and Jason Cammisa will talk through the various systems that make this car possible, and how it achieves such insane results. Questions covered include:
    1). Why is the 1,234 HP Lucid so much faster than the 1,111 HP Lucid?
    2). Why is the Lucid's 0-60 time (acceleration) faster than its 60-0 time (braking)?
    3). Why are the fastest EVs the heaviest EVs?
    4). What is your favorite thing about the Lucid Air Sapphire?
    5). What is your biggest complaint of the Lucid Air Sapphire?
    6). Is the Lucid Air Sapphire worth $250k, especially considering the Tesla Model S Plaid is $90k?
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  • @EngineeringExplained
    @EngineeringExplained  Рік тому +2067

    **Full disclosure** - this episode happened mostly by coincidence; we both happened to be at the same event, and for road drives you typically need a driving parter (not enough cars for every outlet to have their own), so Jason agreed to be in the video. That said, I'd love to get your honest feedback on it. *If* coincidentally we are are at future events together, I'm happy to try and make it happen again, if folks like the format. What would you want to see happen differently next time? And to those who watch the whole video, you the MVP, thanks!!

    • @kennethyan4066
      @kennethyan4066 Рік тому +167

      You'd make a great insurance salemsan!

    • @jeffnhelen
      @jeffnhelen Рік тому +163

      Absolutely loved this episode with 2 Jasons! Usually watch Camissa for the drama and flair, but was cool to see him get into the nerdy details. Don’t think I would change a thing.

    • @vpweber
      @vpweber Рік тому +46

      Great chemistry Jason! I'd suggest happenstance over coincidence!

    • @KeatMP
      @KeatMP Рік тому +39

      Loveee the banter between you two. More please!!

    • @rjung_ch
      @rjung_ch Рік тому +1

      🤣🤣🤣@@kennethyan4066

  • @ManAcadie
    @ManAcadie Рік тому +492

    The Jasons have great chemistry. I would genuinely enjoy a car review channel with the two of them on a regular basis. 😂

    • @TheDarkFalcon
      @TheDarkFalcon Рік тому +4

      But in addition, not instead of regular content!

    • @adriansperling5012
      @adriansperling5012 Рік тому +9

      This is exactly what I came here to say. Just finished watching this video, and the one thing I learned: I need a Jason^2 channel!

    • @ManAcadie
      @ManAcadie Рік тому

      @@TheDarkFalcon don't be greedy

    • @stefanschuchardt5734
      @stefanschuchardt5734 10 місяців тому +1

      Make it happen!

  • @BrianBeckman
    @BrianBeckman Рік тому +992

    Q: What's the only thing better than the 2JZ?
    A: The 2JSons
    Seriously, you two work really well together. You both should consider making content together more regularly.

    • @sparkgrid
      @sparkgrid Рік тому +23

      Well that was creative 😂

    • @ChrisParayno
      @ChrisParayno Рік тому +13

      Underrated comment right there

    • @jesussavesanus9790
      @jesussavesanus9790 Рік тому +5

      Maybe even make adult content together, I would pay BIIIIIIIIG bucks.

    • @TheSteinbitt
      @TheSteinbitt Рік тому +1

      No please, the insurance sales guy was clueless and annoying.

    • @MACRONOne
      @MACRONOne Рік тому

      For real though!

  • @milesj6064
    @milesj6064 Рік тому +118

    I have to agree 100% with all the other commentors, that the two of you together is amazing, I love Jason's Hagerty stuff, how he blends humor with education, and I love Jason's Engineering Explained videos for the nerdy side of learning how things work. Definitely would love to see you both do another collaboration together and see if it works out the same. Always good to have two educated guys discuss a subject and see where it goes.

  • @ryanhoffmann9341
    @ryanhoffmann9341 Рік тому +29

    I would listen to these guys for a very very long time. DO MORE!

  • @MrDDawson
    @MrDDawson Рік тому +704

    You need to have Jason on for the car videos more often. You are great together.

    • @EngineeringExplained
      @EngineeringExplained  Рік тому +87

      Thanks, happy to hear it! Will try my best to see if we can make it happen again!

    • @crxtodd16
      @crxtodd16 Рік тому +4

      Yes, also if you two tooted at the exact same time it would combine forces and be very powerful.

    • @tommyh.8391
      @tommyh.8391 Рік тому +1

      Can we get back to engineering now?

    • @MrDDawson
      @MrDDawson Рік тому +3

      @@tommyh.8391 Why reply to me with this?

    • @ralanham76
      @ralanham76 Рік тому +2

      Only if the second Jason can stand him

  • @forrysc
    @forrysc Рік тому +525

    Good chemistry and excellent self deprecation between these two. If they joined up for a series I'd watch it for sure.

    • @geoffwatches
      @geoffwatches Рік тому +8

      Yes! 'you sell car insurance 😂' 'people don't think you're that smart' Savage

    • @rcajavus8141
      @rcajavus8141 Рік тому

      MORE!MORE!MORE!!!

    • @forrysc
      @forrysc Рік тому

      I follow both youtube channels and I follow Jason (I'll let you guess which one) on social media. Very solid content from both.

    • @anydaynow01
      @anydaynow01 Рік тому +3

      Yep, and get Randy Pobst to be their tame racing driver, and Dave Coleman as their nerd in charge.

    • @justarandomf-4gphantom170
      @justarandomf-4gphantom170 5 місяців тому

      ​@@anydaynow01 My guy over here planning the next Top Gear reboot 😂
      But for real that'd be sick

  • @jonathanhiener2463
    @jonathanhiener2463 Рік тому +164

    I have followed both components of Jason² for years, and there is no question that this is my favorite video that either of you have ever made. As an engineer with the flawed engineer brain, I love the authentic, unscripted banter about the Air and its unbelievable successes as well as the discussion of Lucid's uncertain future as a new player in the automotive world. Appreciating breakthroughs in technology while simultaneously critiquing the perfectionist mindset in the real world (all with an hint of automotive history) is simply the perfect mix. You both communicate well and have excellent chemistry together. I really hope you guys continue to collaborate in this relaxed fashion. This is some of the most enjoyable, funny, and informative content out there, and it's done without crazy edits or gags - just two gearheads (of... acceptable intellect) poking fun at themselves in a fast car!

  • @someguyontheinternet7165
    @someguyontheinternet7165 Рік тому +9

    Honestly this is the perfect combo. Cammisa brings in a little more humor and seems to extract more from your as well. He also adds a dose of emotion both around a car and brand which. That transforms an object into a story. It gives a more complete picture compared to an overly pragmatic mechanical approach which obviously everyone here also deeply enjoys. Diving into the mechanics satiates the inner nerd and helps inspire creativity in your viewers own life. A driving force for turning your army of 8 year olds into tomorrows Lucid 2.0. Best auto related video I’ve watched in a while.

  • @shadir007
    @shadir007 Рік тому +5

    Camisa’s ICONS video is amazing. It’s one of my favorite videos he has done. Highly recommend it.

  • @savagegeese
    @savagegeese Рік тому +142

    This video consolidated all the great things about this car including the problem with price. Now lets hope the company makes it and the talent makes it into other cars.

    • @joelo542
      @joelo542 11 місяців тому +2

      Looking forward to a Jason cammisa Collab with you, Mark!!

    • @andrewhigdon8346
      @andrewhigdon8346 10 місяців тому +1

      They are forced by the rules of business to do exactly what they are doing. Luxury cars make the quickest ROI for manufacturers. Bottom feeder cars are needed to bolster the long term bottom line as well, but that takes longer, hence the Tesla Model S first, then the Model 3 and Y. Ford did the Model T, in any color you wanted, but all at the same time, black. But that market was there waiting for that product. The timing was impeccable. That can’t be done right now. Remember though, that when the Model S was the most important car to come out since the Model T, said the major magazines. I agree.

  • @VKEvilution
    @VKEvilution Рік тому +507

    Two mechanical engineers nailing the chemistry.

    • @EngineeringExplained
      @EngineeringExplained  Рік тому +112

      D'aww, now that's a solid compliment, thanks!

    • @tralala8980
      @tralala8980 Рік тому +28

      Great energy, first time only listening, then watched it again, back-to-back!
      Just a 2 % gripe:
      Jason the driver should Jason the passenger finishes his points sometimes.
      Examples: Handling: “Like a hooligan, but it doesn’t bite!”. (23:32) Great quote, give it room to breathe. Infotainment “I don’t want it to be irritating” (29:09). Same. Just give the passenger 3 more seconds to finish his drive. It is a bit easier to follow and lets both of you shine a bit more.
      And that is the only negative after watching it back-to-back. So, it is a great infotainment!
      @@EngineeringExplained

    • @EngineeringExplained
      @EngineeringExplained  Рік тому +64

      @@tralala8980 You're spot on, and thanks for watching!! While editing I noticed I was jumping in too soon, hope I can correct this habit of mine if it happens again! (It's tough, bc what's going on in my head is always "keep the convo flowing!" while sometimes it turns into an interruption).

    • @tralala8980
      @tralala8980 Рік тому +10

      @@EngineeringExplained Thanks for the positive feedback!
      I noticed you were probably thinking ahead. "Essential info/quote is out. Bam! Get the next one moving." That works in writing/programing. But it is not enjoyable in conversation. Happens to me too! 😅
      Well, I already watched Jason the passenger’s videos too from your description. You all did a great job!
      Off to savagegeese...
      ...
      I really miss car ads from the 60s.They were instructive. Good it is coming back at least for those, who want it!🤩

    • @ChrisParayno
      @ChrisParayno Рік тому

      Haha

  • @shidous
    @shidous Рік тому +504

    The crossover we needed but did not deserve. Looking forward to watching it all, end to end!🎉

  • @AliNajafies
    @AliNajafies Рік тому +15

    A great conversation between two great men. I’m really astonished at the moment by the fact that how the Internet can eliminate or has eliminated all the (physical, geographical, political, … any type of) barriers to information flow between humans so that I can sit down on my chair at home in the other corner of the world enjoying this fantastically brilliant dialogue about engineering stuff. Thank you both!

  • @rsmith2320
    @rsmith2320 Рік тому +1

    Great video. Keep it up!

  • @channeljared
    @channeljared Рік тому +187

    As a huge fan of Cammisa, I really loved this - it showcased the best of EE in a more relaxed environment, while bringing in some of the humour and levity that Cammisa has. This video easily slots into my top 10 favorite UA-cam videos ever, great work guys, hope to see you both continue to succeed and flourish and do more together with amazing brands and cars like this.

  • @dannonyogurt98
    @dannonyogurt98 Рік тому +31

    Jason's Hagerty content is gold.
    I also love the not so subtle ripping they do on each other.

  • @superchargedsteve3411
    @superchargedsteve3411 Рік тому +111

    2 Jasons in the same video will now create a time paradox from which we can never escape. Great, thanks a lot guys!!

    • @EngineeringExplained
      @EngineeringExplained  Рік тому +13

      Unfortunately you're stuck in this parallel with the both of us. Every other universe is enjoying peace and serenity.

    • @superchargedsteve3411
      @superchargedsteve3411 Рік тому +5

      @@EngineeringExplained well ours is more fun at least! 😎 🏁

  • @ruffytdog
    @ruffytdog Рік тому +6

    You both are totally different in style, but you both worked together so freakin well!

  • @MegaMaskedrider
    @MegaMaskedrider Рік тому +2

    This has to be one of the most open minded, respectful and competent discussions about cars i've ever seen, and i watch a lot about cars.. 😅🎉

  • @jnichols959
    @jnichols959 Рік тому +44

    Always love your videos and never would have imagined what a great combo these two Jasons would be!

  • @Chimmy912
    @Chimmy912 Рік тому +18

    What an incredible video for an incredible car. You two together was a fantastic colab

  • @pmdinaz
    @pmdinaz Рік тому +35

    What an episode! Guest Jason really brought out some fun topics haha. Quite the throwdown at MB!

  • @andrewhewes4010
    @andrewhewes4010 Рік тому

    Thanks!

  • @adl320
    @adl320 Рік тому +1

    Pure gold. Even if this weren’t car talk it would still be informative and entertaining. But it is and it shows the brilliance of how seamlessly you work together. Pick any other car vehicle engineering topic and repeat! Loved it!

  • @cdnaudioguy
    @cdnaudioguy Рік тому +54

    You guys need to do this a few times a year. Two of my favorite car guys by several orders of magnitude!

    • @EngineeringExplained
      @EngineeringExplained  Рік тому +8

      Might be able to make that happen, see pinned comment, so long as a few launches line up (that said, each car launch has numerous waves, so the likelihood of getting it all synced up is tough, but hey, we can chat about it!).

    • @halycon404
      @halycon404 Рік тому

      Honestly. I'd rather see an episode of Icons where Jason throws to Jason on the whiteboard. Find a single car you both dearly love and have fun with it. Jason, history history history, manufacturing, blah blah blah, "and here's what slide rule crowd says", walk over to you with a whiteboard segment on some inane detail of the car and some banter. It'd be kinda fun seeing another foil other than Randy.
      This was fun, don't get me wrong, and I'd like to see another. But this type of unscripted off the cuff content isn't what either of you are best at or known for. It'd be fun to see what an actual mashup of your two styles would be like.

    • @CaramidaruAndreiBogdan
      @CaramidaruAndreiBogdan Рік тому

      Podcast:)

  • @albertomorales7322
    @albertomorales7322 Рік тому +71

    OMG! These two together! For halve an hour 🤯 I really enjoy these kind of surprises. I really do. Jason is one of my favorite car UA-camrs… yes, you got it right!

    • @EngineeringExplained
      @EngineeringExplained  Рік тому +21

      Now Jason on the other hand... 😉

    • @bluetoes591
      @bluetoes591 Рік тому

      ​@@EngineeringExplained Both Jasons are among the elite in automotive journalist Jasons.

  • @celoceanicon
    @celoceanicon Рік тому +12

    Two of my favorite youtube car guys making an episode together is something I wasn't expecting

  • @Sebwolf54
    @Sebwolf54 Рік тому +24

    As a clearly 8-year old, I absolutely love the Jason² energy in this very video. Two mechanical engineers talking cars and having a better chemistry than some chemists would like to achieve. :D
    Can’t wait for your next coincidental collab!

  • @dub88acc
    @dub88acc Рік тому +4

    The collab we didn't know we needed

  • @shakesnbake
    @shakesnbake Рік тому +48

    Professor Camisa is a legend! Love this collab!

  • @Ghotio
    @Ghotio Рік тому +7

    Fantastic seeing two of my favorite auto experts collaborate. More of this, please!

  • @challacustica9049
    @challacustica9049 Рік тому +8

    The two great Jasons of creating absurdly high quality automotive content. Amazing.

  • @zaucy_
    @zaucy_ Рік тому +4

    A duo I never thought I'd see in a video together, shooting the sh*t while riding around in a 1234hp, full-size EV sedan. LOL but I'm 100% all for it. You two have good chemistry and a plethora of knowledge between both of your minds and I feel insanely lucky to be able to watch/listen/learn from you Jasons. Definitely hoping to see more from yall in the future. Thanks again for another great video man, so much learned and taken from it! 🤙🏼🤙🏼

  • @williamclark6466
    @williamclark6466 Рік тому +1

    Great video, dudes!
    It was like two car geeks taking a drive and having an epic time enjoying the conversation and freedom of the open road.
    Do it again. It was great.

  • @moldytexas
    @moldytexas Рік тому +125

    Oh my god. Jason Cammisa with Jason Fenske, the world is officially cured.

    • @EngineeringExplained
      @EngineeringExplained  Рік тому +24

      Y'all too kind, quick, someone call us names!

    • @faheemabbas3965
      @faheemabbas3965 Рік тому +13

      @@EngineeringExplaineddouble-goats

    • @anydaynow01
      @anydaynow01 Рік тому +4

      @@faheemabbas3965 Dave Coleman is the ultimate nerd goat for us old Sport Compact Car fans, but these two would make excellent sidekicks!

    • @ganymede3141
      @ganymede3141 Рік тому +3

      ​@@EngineeringExplainedNerds!

    • @moldytexas
      @moldytexas Рік тому +1

      @@EngineeringExplained the greatest like-minded nerd collab ever on youtube! PS: did watch the full 39 mins of the video and loved every second of it!

  • @UraPAuckland
    @UraPAuckland Рік тому +8

    Great collaboration! An excellent exploration of the Lucid drawing on your respective perspectives.

  • @MosquitoXR13
    @MosquitoXR13 Рік тому +23

    Easily, one of the best collaborations of all time. Thank you both.

  • @thirdpedalnirvana
    @thirdpedalnirvana Рік тому +3

    I want a “Just put buttons in the car, FFS” t-shirt with Jason’s face on it.

  • @nielsonderbeke8507
    @nielsonderbeke8507 Рік тому +9

    Loved this video!
    Lucid reminds me more of SAAB from what you're describing! Engineering to perfection, but at the cost of profit margin (and sales volumes, as their prices were quite high).

  • @BrianK04
    @BrianK04 Рік тому +4

    This was such a joy to listen to, interesting the full way thru. I finished and I just wanted to hear you guys talk about more. Hearing real talk about cars and not sensational promo material is always a breathe of fresh air.

  • @deanrhodenizer938
    @deanrhodenizer938 Рік тому +6

    Glad you guys finally got together. I am a big fan of both your channels but for different reasons. Jason C offers videos that are always very entertaining, and I appreciate his coverage of historical vehicles and he (and Randy) seems very enthusiastic about what he is doing. Jason F offers videos that are usually explaining something interesting, so I am paying very close attention, hanging onto every word making sure I understand every detail of what he is saying.
    Good the hear the explanation about braking for these quick cars - can accelerate faster than they can brake. Interesting to hear Jason C’s take on the handling of the Sapphire. We have finally reached the stage where the car‘s computer can control traction better than a human driver. And also great to hear Jason C’s comment that the Sapphire is ahead of MB on leading edge engineering.

  • @zero11010
    @zero11010 Рік тому +8

    Would love to see you two sit in a car and do this from time to time. He’s got this phenomenal encyclopedic knowledge!

    • @bvoyelr
      @bvoyelr Рік тому

      "Car guys in cars drinking coffee." They're the Jerry Seinfelds of Jasons!

    • @emmajnation-emma
      @emmajnation-emma Рік тому

      @@bvoyelror for a UK reference, they’re the big brain Smith and Sniff

  • @AutomotiveWoman
    @AutomotiveWoman Рік тому +9

    Oh, what a brilliant suggestion! You two are just extremely good together, after all. Perhaps you could entertain us with a series where one Jason, the engineer, explains things on a whiteboard, while the other Jason does all the crazy stuff and puts the math to the test. Of course, it doesn't really matter which Jason does which, does it?

    • @PeterWhite-q1k
      @PeterWhite-q1k Рік тому

      Agreed more of the 2 J's would be awesome! One condition comes to mind, make sure Randy P gets some face-time as he adds to any show he has been involved with, IMHO!

  • @shannonlenz1098
    @shannonlenz1098 11 місяців тому

    Please do more videos together. You have great chemistry. Cammisa is one of my favorite automotive journalists. I used to look foward to his road & track articles before all this, everything's online, day and age.

  • @eldude1999
    @eldude1999 Рік тому +4

    We need more Jason x 2! Great team and fun to watch

  • @brandonsever2576
    @brandonsever2576 Рік тому +8

    My two favorite Jasons presenting together is awesome. Been subscribed here for probably 8 years and I've watched basically every curmudgeon show episode too, so the nerdiness and knowledge is no surprise

  • @j4k3br4k3
    @j4k3br4k3 Рік тому +72

    I dont think anyone is debating if the lucid air sapphire is better than a plaid or not. $300k vs $90k is the issue

    • @spdrcrj
      @spdrcrj Рік тому +10

      “$300k vs $90k”.

    • @WhatisaLee
      @WhatisaLee Рік тому +11

      I understand I’m in the minority here, but I think this comparison is analogous to:
      1) If I had FU money, would I buy a Ferrari/Lambo over an Emira? No.
      2) If I had FU money, would I buy a Lucid over a Tesla? Yes.
      But to your point, #2 is just generally true for luxury-leaning vehicles. The more categorically expensive luxury is more often the better luxury.

    • @HUMC5
      @HUMC5 Рік тому +15

      $250K vs $110K(with $20K track package)
      Tesla build quality is garbage though.

    • @EngineeringExplained
      @EngineeringExplained  Рік тому +22

      For sure! As discussed in the video, though it’s $90k vs $250k. With that extra $50k you could pair your Lucid with an M3P 😉! And there’s always a bigger fish, Lucid gets very close to Rimac times, yet Rimac is $2M.

    • @kenm724
      @kenm724 Рік тому +6

      This is the same argument the average car enthusiast makes when they look at a $30k build vs a $110k one trick pony.

  • @machtschnell7452
    @machtschnell7452 Рік тому

    That was a truly enlightening dialogue, so thank you both for recording that.

  • @kevinhefty5305
    @kevinhefty5305 Рік тому

    I don’t watch many car videos but watched this whole thing. Two of you have fun chemistry and was an entertaining video. Enough to make me come to comments to look for links

  • @SaveTheManuals1
    @SaveTheManuals1 Рік тому +30

    Fantastic video! I am fully convinced of Lucid's engineering prowess. Hopefully the business side works.

    • @Muskar2
      @Muskar2 Рік тому +2

      They're inseparable aspects. If you spend three times as much as you charge, when your competitors spend 80% of what they charge, it's much easier to provide higher quality. But unsustainable quality is... unsustainable. Compromises have to be made or they will go bankrupt, like most car brands in history.

    • @newtonfirefly3584
      @newtonfirefly3584 Рік тому

      @@Muskar2 You both lack the information, knowledge that Lucid designs, develops, manufactures, produces every electric motor for Tesla and Lucid.
      Tesla purchases all of their components from other manufactures, producers. Only their S/W is developed within Tesla along with the robot manufacturing implementation, with assistance; Both of these have serious issues.
      Tesla has "Globalist/Elite" backing as do Lucid, Rimac, etc. Elon Musk is among their 'puppets', at least since PayPal with Peter Thiel; co-founders. Continues with Tesla, Space X [Jim Cantrell, first Exec VP, engineer, developer - now Phantom Space]
      Be Aware, Informed, Knowledgeable, BEWARE !!
      All of these EV and nearly all modern vehicles have complete manufacture control => Avoid - at any cost - even [seemingly] FREE => NOT FREE; NO Freedom !! 😞
      Good Luck

  • @Ficon
    @Ficon Рік тому +10

    These cars would not be allowed to run on an NHRA drag strip without a roll cage, a racing license, and a parachute. But yeah, let's just sell them to general public. Great collab!

    • @bogususer2595
      @bogususer2595 Рік тому

      Yeah, I believe this is the reason Tesla never put out the Plaid Plus it had planned. The car becomes a specialty car and way more expensive.

    • @TwoDollarGararge
      @TwoDollarGararge Рік тому +1

      It's a Dodge sized middle finger that they made to steak across the plaid

  • @davidrichter57
    @davidrichter57 Рік тому +13

    That was ridiculously sublime. I enjoyed every second of the banter and especially the content. On the other hand, I think non-engineers could find this a bit too content-rich, and the overall market potential of this video might be a touch limited. Kinda like the Lucid Sapphire itself.

    • @EngineeringExplained
      @EngineeringExplained  Рік тому +2

      Haha, it's the only way I know! Love this comment - like I said in the video, I'm frequently presented with why mentality is flawed, but pursue anyways.

  • @rommac1907
    @rommac1907 Рік тому +1

    This was very cool, you should be guest of the Carmundgeon Show with Jason & Derek I think

  • @ConnorHammond
    @ConnorHammond Рік тому +1

    Big call about the handling, Cammisa! Got me very intrigued.

  • @Food_n_Driver365
    @Food_n_Driver365 Рік тому +4

    Genius collab! Who else noticed the rear wheel move forward before the body in that launch slowmo 😮

  • @gouldnj
    @gouldnj Рік тому +4

    Hearing a person like Cammisa wax automotive rhapsodic about this car like that is truly a surprise. He fucks around a lot, but he is truly serious when talks about how impressed he is with this car.

  • @sslazer
    @sslazer Рік тому +4

    Interesting conversation. I love the direction Lucid is taking with the Sapphire.
    Regarding the difference between the Sapphire and the Plaid with some small differences they are very similar in the straight and on the track as far as actual times. The rest is subjective feelings. Whether the price difference is worth it highly depends upon the buyer.
    There are certainly a lot more people who can afford $90k vs. $250k. Overall the competition and pace of advancement is a huge win for everyone. It’s not just changing the auto industry, it’s changing the energy industry, robotics, Ai, really the entire world.

  • @sevensixtysteve8662
    @sevensixtysteve8662 Рік тому

    This was one of the best videos I’ve seen recently. Great rapport, genuinely funny and entertaining but also informative and inciteful, this format definitely works !

  • @dan725
    @dan725 Рік тому +2

    WE NEED MORE 2JasonZ!!!!!!!!!! I LOVED THIS VIDEO with two of my favorite automotive personalities on UA-cam!!!!!

  • @ultimatist
    @ultimatist Рік тому +6

    Excellent collaboration, love to see Lucid get recognition from different perspectives on this masterpiece of a car!

  • @triaxe-mmb
    @triaxe-mmb Рік тому +4

    More of 2Jasons content is needed in this world

  • @davidreed9046
    @davidreed9046 Рік тому +5

    Love the team up! Really like the assessment on the engineering of the the Sapphire and how it plays into the financial aspect of the Lucid company. Great work, gentlemen!

  • @rrshse6704
    @rrshse6704 Рік тому +1

    Camisa is the best thing that happened to your show ;) Welcome to big time Jason !

  • @erik9108
    @erik9108 Рік тому

    Finished watching the 911 S/T video and then this one. Loved them both! My engineering-leaning mind ate up the content and then my goofy side got a few laughs in. Bravo!

  • @WeirdSeagul
    @WeirdSeagul Рік тому +10

    now lucid just needs to start making more vehicles

    • @larryc1616
      @larryc1616 Рік тому

      They're bankrupt. Need Saudi funding and they want lucid to relocate to Saudi Arabia. Made in Saudi Arabia

    • @ChosenMJ
      @ChosenMJ Рік тому

      No, they need to sell the ones they already have which is $3B worth. No sense in making something you can’t sell.

  • @xfuture3762
    @xfuture3762 Рік тому +21

    The Sapphire is $250,000+, while the Plaid is $90,000, insane

    • @larryc1616
      @larryc1616 Рік тому

      And the sapphire is not even a production car. The 4680 models will all be out next year.

    • @Slayer-33
      @Slayer-33 Рік тому +7

      Uhh, that IS the gap you pay for in bleeding edge technology. It's not Ike you don't get what you pay for. It's a freaking Tesla Plaid vs an actual Luxury Hyper EV.
      I would never subscribe to the idea that any Tesla at this point in time is anything but a nice commuter EV with the best charging network.

    • @xfuture3762
      @xfuture3762 Рік тому +5

      @@Slayer-33 $170,000 more for a 10th of a second quicker 0-60 is not hyper car level, Plaid 0-60 1.99, Sapphire 0-60 1.89

    • @R03333
      @R03333 Рік тому +1

      The argument here is the car is significantly more luxury? Think maybach prices

    • @Slayer-33
      @Slayer-33 Рік тому +5

      @@xfuture3762 It runs the quarter mile UNDER 9, 0-60 in 1.85. You exponentially pay more for bleeding edge technology. It's not only faster, it handles better, it behaves better, it does what you want it to do.
      All things being equal who'd want a Model S Plaid? I wouldn't, people with excess money probably wouldn't either. Where's the prestige of a Model S plaid? It's a cheaply made "fast" car with its redeeming quality probably only being its charging network lol.. Yes I'm not including FSD yet because that's not ready yet but heh.. Lucid is working on their own FSD.
      The Sapphire looks a lot better IMO and has more room too..

  • @mrgeebennett1009
    @mrgeebennett1009 Рік тому +3

    What an great absorbing video, I found what you were saying really interesting. Your description of handling (Jason C) painted an image in my head of the car being driven as if I was the driver. Loved the geeky tech stuff too. You guys should do more stuff like this again. Please can you do the Lucid Gravity when it comes out too??

  • @tylerburghart4542
    @tylerburghart4542 9 місяців тому

    I just watched the second video and loved it. First off I have been watching Jason from EE since like 16-17 like very early on. Loved the knowledge and the humor. Just found Jason C. Not too long ago and also enjoy his energy. The pair is almost too much. Lol you guys are awesome. Please make more stuff together. I need more thirty ish minute car ride conversations between you two.

  • @APCJunky
    @APCJunky Рік тому +2

    That actually worked really well...I want more...

  • @BhavinTolia
    @BhavinTolia Рік тому +4

    Dear car makers, we all need tactile buttons because our muscle memory assists reaching the correct feature without looking and without endangering our lives...

  • @BigPaPaRu
    @BigPaPaRu Рік тому +4

    I really appreciate and love how fast these vehicles are getting. That being said, I’m worried about reckless drivers. These cars are getting so blisteringly fast. I hope people can remember that they don’t own the road.

    • @phillyphil1513
      @phillyphil1513 Рік тому

      re: "That being said, I’m worried about reckless drivers. These cars are getting so blisteringly fast. I hope people can remember that they don’t own the road." an influencer's going to LAUNCH a Sapphire over the crest at Baxter and Alvarado in Echo Park.

    • @rp9674
      @rp9674 Рік тому

      Almost impossible to drive all out anywhere close to safely

  • @stevenfoon2194
    @stevenfoon2194 Рік тому +14

    Excellent piece. Lucid should give both of you a lot of credit because prior to this, I didn't think that much about so called luxury or performance EV's (Tesla). Lucid raised the bar and really need to go all out on advertising and letting people know more about their vehicle!

    • @ErebosGR
      @ErebosGR Рік тому

      Since 2019, Lucid Motors is now controlled by the Saudis, so there's that.

    • @ErebosGR
      @ErebosGR Рік тому

      @@antblanks Since April 2019, Lucid has been majority-owned by Public Investment Fund, the sovereign wealth fund of Saudi Arabia.
      When a shareholder owns more than 50% of a publicly traded company, then they can control it because they can effectively call all the shots in board appointments and shareholders' meetings.
      And it matters because of Mohammed bin Salman controls that fund.

    • @dantethomas7964
      @dantethomas7964 Рік тому

      ​@@ErebosGRwhats wrong with that?

  • @tumbleweed1976
    @tumbleweed1976 Рік тому

    Educational. Entertaining. Honestly it was perfect for me. You two have great chemistry. Thank you both.

  • @crnisamuraj
    @crnisamuraj Рік тому +1

    This is great! I love the Jasons energy :D You guys should make this more often! You two are my favorite car guys! It's great to see you together! I love how much I learn from your videos!

  • @quinnthompson
    @quinnthompson Рік тому +7

    Great video! Thank you! 🙂
    As the price goes up, you get those diminishing returns. I'm not sure you can justify the Lucid price tag. This is a flagship that needs to sell cheaper cars .. if they can stick around long enough to build them. (This point was being made as I was typing lol)

    • @bvoyelr
      @bvoyelr Рік тому +2

      I think the price is justifiable. It's the fastest car and, according to Jason, the most playful passenger car. At least for the time being, if they didn't sell it for that much, scalpers would. Once the brand is established and you can get one without waiting in line for a year, then they can lower the price to keep the waiting list favorable to them.

    • @lemongavine
      @lemongavine Рік тому +1

      It’s worth the price, but the Tesla Plaid is a much better value and not too far behind on performance.

  • @johnekins4408
    @johnekins4408 Рік тому +4

    My Prius can manage 0 to 60 in about 1 week! However it is really economically and I love it.

  • @pin65371
    @pin65371 Рік тому +14

    What these companies need to start doing is have customizable screens. Have a piece of software where people can design the screen layout the way they want it. They could even have a "market place" where people can upload their layout so others can use it if they find one they like.

    • @rp9674
      @rp9674 Рік тому +1

      Generic tablet as display screen easily and cheaply replaceable size it as you wish

    • @EngineeringExplained
      @EngineeringExplained  Рік тому +1

      Tesla does actually let you move (and customize) the buttons at the bottom of the screen, which is actually really nice. I just wish they allowed for more "slots," so you could put more buttons in a dedicated spot.

  • @murrieteacher
    @murrieteacher Рік тому

    This has to be one on the all time best videos I have watched. Thanks Jasons.

  • @jeffk412
    @jeffk412 Рік тому

    fantastic interplay between the 2 Jasons! I would love to see more of this!

  • @wompa70
    @wompa70 Рік тому +6

    This video was great. Loved watching you two talk.
    I think that if you can afford this car and want it, it's worth the price.
    Consistency is key. Cars may not have as many things to monitor but look at an airplane's instruments. Regardless of what is being measured, the unit being used, or what "normal" is, all the needles point up. If one needle is pointed to the left, you know at a glance something's wrong.

  • @dirkkeeler1348
    @dirkkeeler1348 Рік тому +4

    You guys were driving one of five cars Lucid produced to give the media and others for testing and evaluation. My son-in-law works at the plant in Casa Grande, AZ where they are built. He was one of the last humans to go over and make sure everything was perfect on all five cars. When they sold the first Saphire to a real customer, he was assigned to install the front and rear windscreens to make sure they were as perfect as could be without damage (long story there) along with checking the entire car. His only complaint is he hasn't been able to drive one more than a few feet inside the plant. The SUV is coming soon. I hope Lucid stays in business.

    • @EngineeringExplained
      @EngineeringExplained  Рік тому +1

      Thanks for sharing! Neat that your son-in-law works at the plant, tell him I said hello!

    • @ErebosGR
      @ErebosGR Рік тому

      Lucid Motors is now controlled by the Saudis, so don't worry... those petrodollars will keep them afloat.

    • @fredrce
      @fredrce Рік тому

      Any hint if the lucid gravity will get the sapphire power?

  • @tboy911
    @tboy911 Рік тому +6

    How about a head to head with the Plaid with track pack for $110k vs the Sapphire at $250k

    • @colin-nekritz
      @colin-nekritz Рік тому

      This is more about how the petulant manchild Elno aka Phony Stark and his sycophants insist on all these conditions and the Lucid comes along, didn’t insist on conditions, and can beat the Plaid, it can even beat the Plaid 0-60 on a public road any given time not under ideal conditions. This about one company that makes everything up as they go along to game their stock price, spinning a yarn about its questionable,often patently false greatness, just like liar Musk’s own manufactured backstories, and a company run by actual engineers (which Musk is not) comes along and just spanks the empty cardhouse of Tesla fragile egos and makes its cultist fanboys, like you, cry.

  • @jeffreykenyon7718
    @jeffreykenyon7718 Рік тому

    This was the most beautifully perfect collaboration I’ve ever seen, please do more together

  • @DezMak
    @DezMak Рік тому

    Wow!!! Camisa's analysis and ability to communicate said analysis is so amazing each time I experience it but this was a new level. Thanks other Jason!

  • @TheMadmax0609
    @TheMadmax0609 Рік тому +5

    Agreed, I love my Plaid but Tesla needs to bring the stalks back.. and can we put the horn back in the proper place, please?

  • @MikesTropicalTech
    @MikesTropicalTech Рік тому +5

    Great video! I admire Lucid's engineering also, but I hope that the company survives long-term. They've got Saudi money keeping them afloat but that's not a good business model if you're not selling cars in volume.

    • @rp9674
      @rp9674 Рік тому +2

      Not good in a couple of ways

    • @meanboy2000
      @meanboy2000 Рік тому +2

      November 7th is earnings day. Will be interested in the number of deliveries they made.

  • @777Outrigger
    @777Outrigger Рік тому +11

    F-18E/F pilot. Yawn. 0-180 in 3 secs. Of course, that's with catapult assist.

    • @you2uber530
      @you2uber530 4 місяці тому

      You mean that's the catapult, maybe with a little assistance from the f18...

  • @rodcosta2345
    @rodcosta2345 Рік тому

    Wow, amazing chemistry and both incredibly well versed in vehicular intricacies. So much fun to watch.

  • @christopherthompson8389
    @christopherthompson8389 Рік тому

    Two of my fav guys/channels collaborating... awesome

  • @caleb30
    @caleb30 Рік тому +8

    I see Jason Cammisa, I click

    • @EngineeringExplained
      @EngineeringExplained  Рік тому +1

      I love that UA-cam suggests “translate to English” when I see this comment. 😂 What does Cammisa even mean?!

    • @caleb30
      @caleb30 Рік тому

      @@EngineeringExplained that’s hilarious. Hope you guys find a reason to collaborate in the future.

  • @off-roadingexplained8417
    @off-roadingexplained8417 Рік тому +15

    Am I the only one is insanely impressed with the suspension? It has to be incredible to be able to handle the power!

  • @Amber57499
    @Amber57499 Рік тому +4

    Damn how do you drive backwards so quickly and effortlessly?

  • @justinpeterson6965
    @justinpeterson6965 Рік тому

    Wow. Two of my favorites together in the same video! Love it!

  • @jonathanhowe7253
    @jonathanhowe7253 Рік тому

    Really enjoyed both of you reviewing this together. Do more!

  • @MrSamPhoenix
    @MrSamPhoenix Рік тому +19

    These two should start a channel together. One Jason is the serious technical part, while the other is the silly crazy half.

  • @chillydogization
    @chillydogization Рік тому +4

    Did he try the Plaid with track package? Also, the yoke is optional (a regular steering wheel is available from Tesla).

    • @EngineeringExplained
      @EngineeringExplained  Рік тому +2

      Uncertain, and yes good point, Tesla did indeed bring back the regular steering wheel, thankfully.

    • @JasonCammisa
      @JasonCammisa Рік тому +4

      I haven't, yet. The last Plaid I drove on track was the original; I'll get to the Track Package eventually. Kinda tough when Tesla has no press fleet - asking private owners to beat their car on track isn't easy.

    • @ken830
      @ken830 Рік тому +1

      @@JasonCammisa Can't wait for your opinion of the Track Package.

  • @2006gtobob
    @2006gtobob Рік тому +4

    I agree that you two are extremely good together. You should do a series where the one Jason is the engineer describing what something is capable of on the whiteboard and the other Jason does the yahoo crazy stuff putting the math to the test. And it doesn't matter which Jason does what.

  • @Wirenfeldt1990
    @Wirenfeldt1990 Рік тому

    This was a joy, a treat and something I would love to see repeated whenever you can manage it..
    And if you ever have a spare hour and change, and happen to be in the San Francisco area, please gatecrash The Carmudgeon Show for our viewing pleasure too..

  • @dl8538
    @dl8538 Рік тому

    What a great pairing!??!? You guys have a very engaging presentation style, really enjoyed this vid!!