The Corvette Z06 Breaks All The Rules - An Absolute Masterpiece
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- Опубліковано 18 тра 2023
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The 2023 C8 Corvette Z06 breaks all the rules you thought you know.
1. What's faster, a car with more or less power?
2. What's more powerful, a large supercharged engine, or a smaller naturally aspirated engine?
3. What has a wider, flatter torque curve: a supercharged engine, or a high revving naturally aspirated engine?
4. What uses less fuel, a car that makes more, or less power?
Compared to the C7 Z06, the C8 Z06 is an improvement in every way, and yet on paper you might not see why. It's a stunning feat of engineering, and a masterclass in supercar design. What an absolute joy to drive!
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You know you have mastered your craft when you can narrate a technical video, drop some sly remarks, and drive the car.
I was trying to listen for the cuts in the video in the road noise and nothing, dude is an encyclopedia
He has been doing this for years..good morning!
I'd say he knows what he's talking about
THE NA POWER YES, REAL HEAVY THATS THE DOWN SIDE. POSSIBLE TO TUNE THE MOTOR SQUEEZE OUT 750 N/A POWER? POSSIBLE..REDUCE THE WIEGHT WOULD BE NICE.
Now do it while manually rev matching
Totally agree. By going mid engine it bumps the vette into a new class of car and still retains the best price for the performance
sure shirley for sure
*msrp enters the room* some body said best price? 🤑
yup. but i must say i always loved the whole "front engine car taunting the exotics" vibe corvettes had. imagine being beat in your high tech mid engine car by some front engined pushrod v8 neanderthal with a goddamn LEAF SPRING IN THE BACK and an interior straight out of an 80s kia. i know all that stuff was engineered too, no question, but it was always funny to me.
It's an amazing price for what it is, up there in performance with the exotics no argument, but the Corvette used to be at the upper end of an 'everyman car' as the slightly higher-tech daddy to the Firebird and Camaro. Granted this is a Z06 but at $166K they've certainly shifted the market segment where the car is aimed from where it once was. I always loved the fact that my LS1 Camaro could hang on the track with euro-spec M3 costing more than twice as much - and I think the Vette still does this today but it's now competing in a different segment than it once did. I'm not complaining - it's a bargain for what you get and an amazing car - it's just changed from being the higher end of sports car into the bottom end of exotic in both pricing and performance.
Until it blows up. But the price is just about how incredibly overpriced Italian sports cars are, that's how they stay "exclusive".
I’ve watched a hundred videos on the c8 z06 and this by far is the best at breaking down the how and why it performs so well. Thanks for a fresh perspective on this car.
The Z06 Corvette C8 has 540bhp.
I was impressed by all the choices GM made in the C8 Z06, but when Jason talked about engine efficiency and the oil bath, I was blown away by the GM engineers really going the extra mile in this engine design. This is how big companies should compete, by leveraging their economies of scale to put more resources into R&D.
Harley and GM both went way above and beyond for American companies, with the new Corvette and the new Pan America motorcycle by Harley. The amount of new innovations that have never been used by any American companies is really amazing. Harley was the first motorcycle in history to use hydraulic lifters on an adventure bike, so no valve adjustments, as well as automotic ride height that adjusts when you come to a stop, so you don't tip over on your motorcycle. The Harley Pan America engine is really a masterpiece of engineering, and people who ride say there's not much like it on the road, and for an American motorcycle engine it's more advanced than anything that has ever been made. And the Corvette engine, they literally used every possible technology available to make the engine, they didn't save money and try to cut costs, they did every innovation possible, and it's truly a masterpiece.
How long before ford incorporates some of this technology and "implies" (not claim) that they invented it? 3? 4 years?? That is precisely their M.O...
@@Ritalie agree. Look also at Harley Davidson.
He is comparing the efficiency of a naturally aspirated (new) engine to a supercharged (old) engine. That's not "going the extra mile", it's the obvious result of not using a mechanically driven supercharger. It would be interesting to compare efficiency to highest-output naturally aspirated C7 engine.
Actually I heard the GM engineers "took inspiration" from Ferrari engines in the 458 Italia... 😂😅 (They reverse engineered it)
I love the passive aggressive sarcasm about the dual overhead cams 😅
4 valves per cylinder! 🤯
If this was posted on Facebook. Someone would have aggressively tried to correct him.
@@EngineeringExplained witchcraft!!
I was confused at first. Lol
I didn't catch the sarcasm either. I had a 2000 Toyota Camry wagon that was a 2.2 litre I4, double overhead cams, 16 valves. In that year, Toyota was the only company offering double overhead cam and 4 valves per cylinder across it's entire product line. I was actually embarrassed for him. 😂
I love the hit on Dodge "it now has 808 hp so now it's better"
That's definitely SRT's approach. And the TRX guys wonder why my Gen 2 raptor is so much faster off-road.....power ain't everything!
It now has 1,020 hp. Obviously better.
Dodge builds "performance" cars for people that like to talk, Chevy and Ford build performance cars for people that like to drive.
@@Trialnerrorlol no. Chevys and fords are for track times. Dodge makes cars for the strip. Which is why their in the 8s unlike anyone else
@@johncena-hq1ti And only usable on a prepped surface with lots of track glue. It will still cower in fear of a MR or AWD vehicle at the red light.
I really do think the C8 Corvette is like the NSX from the 90's: It's supercar performance and supercar looks, for a price that its supercar competitors (lambo/ferrari) simply cannot match. It's too bad we can't have the C8 for American prices, here in Europe.
most people can't get it for American prices in America either. The markups are huge.
This time of the day, all those so-called "super car killers" are selling at super car prices. High end 911's, super car prices, this z06, super car prices. Heck even the base C8's still get markups after being released for 3 years!
@@magnusandersen8898 It has nothing to do with whether GM is hoarding the product. It's simply that when supercar performance vehicles are sold at supercar price, they are super car, and the name means nothing, neither does the history. Underdogs are not the underdogs anymore when they become the overdogs.
The C8 also appeals to people who think Ferrari peaked with the 458. And IMO those people would be correct.
Just curious, where do you live and what is the `out the door price'?
This has to be one of the biggest ICE updates I've seen for over a decade (for a mass produced car). Just the vacuum/oil sealed system for each pair of cylinders is amazing. Not only does that create less turbulent air, but the vacuum should reduce the amount of foam and also drastically cut the likelihood of oil starvation from G forces. It also slashes the time the oil takes to make it's way around the passages. Congrats to Chevy for documenting and making this information available. This is by far the most engineered production US engine I've ever seen. WOW!
The fact that you can explain all this while also driving a Z06 is very impressive.
Corvette is not that hard to drive.
@@rusakko91 all cars easy to drive unless you get past 8 or 9/10ths
@@papa_ptexplaining technical details isn't easy while doing anything else tho
@@T4nkcommander eh depends how well you know the subject
It''s a DCT with auto mode and flappy paddles, pretty much as easy as it gets until your start driving it in anger.
I generally don't have a very high opinion of GM, but I have to say, I'm very impressed what they've been doing with the Corvette the last half decade. It's seriously impressive.
I was same, thought GM made kind of crappy products, so I was looking at getting a Porsche like my brother but for the money the C7 was impossible to ignore. After doing my homework I bought a C7 Z51 due to its impressive tech. The mag-ride suspension and PTM (traction control) is NASA level stuff. Plus GM finally made a nice interior with high quality materials - leather, suede, carbon. The Corvette team is a bunch of race engineers given a budget way beyond your typical GM beam counter thus in my mind it’s almost a separate company building a one-off machine.
Same here, the vette is the only GM product I like
I like the Camaro ZL1 1LE and the C5 and above Corvettes for performance reasons. It seems that GM know what they're doing when it comes to V8 muscle. Even a Camaro SS 1LE gives a Vette a run for it's money. It's funny that GM stopped innovating the Camaro after they realized it was too fast around the track. They almost didn't release the ZL1 1LE for that reason. They hated having a Camaro beat their C7 line up but they needed something to gain buyers from the Ford and Dodge.
Those pistons and connecting rods are something else.
Im a Chevy guy, but i believe Ford has a better-looking pomy car this gen. Chevy does rank very high with performance and track times, which seems to be their major focus. The base c8 looks like a cheap kit car to me. Now, the c8 z06 does look better because of the wide body, and of course, going to the new engine is pretty awesome. The question is, will the new z06 engine be as reliable, only time will tell. Because from what I've seen the ford motor dont hold the power that the chevy motors hold. Reason why the LS plat form is so big in the car community.
When you were first stood in front of that white board with the fuzzy camera and terrible mic, did you ever think you'd get to the point of hooning around in a car like that for a living? Good on you. Keep up the good work. I've seen a lot of reviews of that car and none have made me want one like you making a luddite like me understand about the oil system 😂
Ha - of course not! I just wanted a job and was hoping a UA-cam channel would be a decent resume bullet point. Turns out it can be the job as well, what a dream! :)
If a channel like yours had been around when I was in school, I’d have taken a much more active interest in physics!
Love how you make it understandable and practical. Great job.
Good to see American Muscle still bringing it!
This car is underrated.
It’s a turn-key toy, air conditioned and track ready that’s for sure.
Performance is impressive and the transmission shifts lightning fast.
THE NA POWER YES, REAL HEAVY THATS THE DOWN SIDE. POSSIBLE TO TUNE THE MOTOR SQUEEZE OUT 750 N/A POWER? POSSIBLE..REDUCE THE WIEGHT WOULD BE NICE.
except for the fact gm totally screwed the engine. throttle body doesn't even open all the way even at "wide open throttle" which is because it has a single in tank fuel pump, instead of two like it should, so it is incapable of providing enough fuel for the amount of air the engine is capable of flowing at true wide open throttle. if it simply had a second fuel pump and was tuned to have the TB fully open, it would make north of 700hp without any other mods. sadly the ECUs are locked which makes this impossible for an aftermarket tuner to do at this time.
On top of that numerous owers are having engines blow at under 1000 miles because they are not being informed on the proper break in procedure for this engine.
even more owners whos engines have not blown, are developing a mysterious ticking sound, and although GM has acknowledged this is definitely an issue, says they won't replace these engines till they blow.
whats more is the dct's are likely going to be failing at low miles as well, seeing as dct filters are clogging way before GM requires a dct service, due to the fact that the internals of the transmission have not been properly polished/ finished, causing an abnormal amount of particulates to exist inside the trans, in turn causing the filters to clog.
from a cost/performance perspective these are fantastic cars. i love corvettes and this is probably the coolest one ever made. sadly they are shaping up to also be some of the least reliable ones ever made as well. look up the youtube "vette titans". hes an ex- gm engineer and a c8z owner. hes been discovering/ documenting a lot of these issues which the majority pf the corvette community wants to ignore because of their blind love of the car
@@mizaqenyad4269 interesting. I haven’t been too impressed with the build quality in modern GM vehicles so I’m not too surprised if there are already problems.
I know it's slower but having a more engaging stick shift and clutch pedal would be nice. The 911 has it the Corvette should to, like when Gordon Murray asked the preorder buyers of the T.50 what type of transmission they wanted a DCT or a stick shift, pretty much all of them requested the stick shift so that's the direction he went for that car.
@wisdom a pretty sure it isn't a hybrid...
That IMTV Calibration chart is stunning. It really is amazing what GM has done with the Corvette.
It’s never been about how much power you have, it’s how much is transferred to the ground effectively
great comment. He mentions the tires at least 2x. Dopes on the street don't concentrate on tires as much as the track guys. This is a fantastic track car. If u spend 150k on a car, you gotta spend at least 1k on the tires.
@@Redmenace96 That should be the minimum for tires is $1k lol I did for my C5
Tell that to the boomers
its just harder to market often times
@@Redmenace96 Michelin Pilot Sport Cup 2 R tires are almost $650 each. You're looking at $2500+ with taxes. And with a 180 treadwear rating at 12,000 miles, that's new tires every other oil change.
I love that big child-like smile on Jason's face every time he revs the engine 😄 I've never seen him so happy driving the car. And I totally agree with what he said about it! That's the supercar I would get. I had a chance to service those when I was an apprentice (I had to quit my job due to some reasons) and I absolutely loved it!
The car came with happy button - press to smile! 😂
I applaud GM for jumping into both DOHC 4 valve and flat plane crank for the LT6. Yes there are existing problems but it’s worth doing.
Total witchcraft. There's no way all those cams and valves can fit in there
@@RedBatRacing the rest of the world has been doing it since the 70s.
@@truantrayit’s easy to copy everyone, it’s hard to do you own thing at the time you choose to.
@@truantray yup. DOHC corollas introduced in 1972
@@RedBatRacing I am surprised GM has managed to get the other witchcraft... EFI to work, after all carbs are so much better... 🙈 😅
I almost didn’t watch this video, I was like “eh… corvette? Meh.” But i knew you’d have something interesting to say and I was correct. The part about the oil management and the vacuum and complementary pistons pushing and pulling air and less aerodynamic resistance on the cams all had my head spinning. Really impressive how these engineers come up with these clever ways to gain power and efficiency.
If you thought “eh… corvette? Meh.” about this Z06 means either you've been in a coma for a year or you have very little interest in cars.
THE NA POWER YES, REAL HEAVY THATS THE DOWN SIDE. POSSIBLE TO TUNE THE MOTOR SQUEEZE OUT 750 N/A POWER? POSSIBLE..REDUCE THE WIEGHT WOULD BE NICE.
@@bobobibo2357 or just an irrational hater of corvettes
@@Okami400 Also a possibility 😅
Prob likes trucks or old cars
8:30. Seeing the details provided by Chevrolet, regarding their exact design specifications. This is a radical departure from the standard of withholding certain design specs, they actually provide details such as the exact thickness of each of the piston rings, and provide figures for weight in comparison to old parts. Those pistons are the slimmest, most low profile pistons I've ever seen. This is what consumers have been wanting all along, transparency about the engineering. This is also the biggest accomplishment of any engine in GM's history, because of how reliable and durable the new engine is. Ford and Chrysler have had remarkably consistent engine failures with all their new generation engines, mainly with their 4 and 6 cylinders.
I was able to get my allocation for mine TODAY. I went with ceramic matrix gray with the red interior.
This car is literally a masterpiece. I absolutely can not wait to get it.
people who say c8 zo6 is a bad car are the type of people who think toyota supra mk4 stock makes 1500bhp and its a hypercar
I would say a TON of people who liked Corvette and Chevy (regardless if they could every afford a C-whatever) didn't like that the corvette now looks like a generic supercar. Everyone knows now that the C8 is the BEST deal you could buy in a car of that caliber. The price is obtainable for the power, the styling, the all-n-one package you could buy in a car that can daily and then track, without the numerous modifications you need to do for lets say a car like the Dodge Demon.
Bad is the most generic word I'm sure people have used for the car.
It is a bad car, depending on your desires. The c5/6 frc is still the best platform for people who want:
A car for tall people. The c8 is unacceptable and dangerous for me at 6’3. My head (not to mention helmet) rests on the plastic (covering metal) top latch.
Wants a track car with manageable consumables. The c8z burns through a set of tires and brakes in one hpde weekend. It is too heavy.
Wants a manual.
@@eag8999 bro is critiquing cars based on tall people lmao gtfo here. And nobody wants a manual anymore when DCT’s are 5x as fast.
Is it bad, nah. Does it look like a cheap Aventador with fake plastic vents... maybe
@eag 8999 odd. I fit into the C8 just fine at 6'2 and never felt like I was short on head room.
I liked the video very much. Your reaction to the throttle response is so genuine ❤
Definietly a "grin producer"
The fact that this car made you giddy with joy says enough. Great job Chevy!
Masterpiece really is the correct word to describe the Z06. 👌
I thought holding both paddle would give you a screenshot instead of clutch open.
One of the best parts of cars is the sound, and very soon we won't ever have that experience again bc of everything going electric 😢
Loved your smiling & laughing during the spirited test of the exhaust sound!
Z06 appearance, sound & performance are all amazing, this car is really special.
The engineering that went into that engine is insane! I also appreciate the amount of thought that went into getting all that power to the road. you're right of course, a million horsepower is no better than 200 horsepower if you can't get it to the road.
Yep it was basically, okay we have this race engine, how do we make it civil enough for the street?
The "insane engineering" was simply copying what better cars have been doing for over two decades.
@@xdoctorblindx Found the Euro snob
@@xdoctorblindx You left out the part where they did it for 1/3 to 1/2 the price of most of it's competitors. Anybody can build a bridge that will stay up given enough time and resources. Only a great engineer can build a bridge that will stay up with the least amount of resources and cost possible. Don't think I am remembering that proverb correctly but you should get the idea :).
@@xdoctorblindx OK, DOHC and dry sump oil have been around for a long time. But this stuff about an intake that is tuned like a trumpet and the sealed, separate vacuum chambers for each crank journal, that's something I haven't heard about before.
Jason is so good at math, he does all the calculations while driving !
I enjoyed having the car speak for itself at the end. What a lovely voice it has. Well done video, thank you.
Love the smile when you were listening to the sound of the engine....genuinely happy.
Best video I’ve seen on the ZO6. I really liked all the explanation about the engine. Then the driving at the end was great! Getting to see/hear you play around with it was cool. Not just run of the mill 0-60 runs with people hootin and hollerin. Actual driving and fooling around with the sound and acceleration of the engine!
This is the kind of car review I love - equal appreciation for tech & emotion!
You could have made and entire video without saying a word and everyone still would understand how special this car is. Your smile and laughter (giggles really) says it all.
The ZR1 and Zora are going to be absolutely ridiculous and I can’t wait
I absolutely love the fact you are a car guy. One of the best channels, period.
Once again, you have delivered engineering physics expertly, and with passion! Well done.
Thumbs up for the mix of technical data, technology explanation, and pure enthusiasm 😁
So many people rave about engine sounds, (tunnel blasts, drive bys) but your just driving clip was amazing and long enuf to be a song, not a needle drop! TY so much!)
I love how I’m understanding and recognizing concepts you’ve explained in previous videos 🙌🏾
The channel very much builds on itself, and I have to pick and choose what to repeat vs leave as a standalone concept. Love it that you're able to build from previous videos to better understand the latest, thanks for watching!!
Very cool car and video, specially impressed by the crankcase engineering details. With respect to the intake manifold, taking a moment to appreciate how amazing it is that my 2011 E82 125i has this system and even controls the air flow without the need for a TBI!
Super interesting video Jason. I've learned a lot about the new Z06 and makes me want one even more. Keep up the good work!
I'm subscribed because I always learn somethings when I listen to this guy. You know your stuff. Thank you helping us understand it too.
I was just thinking earlier how I miss your driving/review videos. Keep up the great work! Any chance we will get an update on your personal cars?
the benefit of the previous Z06 is that the HP comes on sooner where its most usable for day to day driving... great video and diagnosis...
I was gonna say, it’s all that low-end, low speed torque that makes the C7 Z06 so dangerous
It is also why the C7Z is faster than a C8Z inna roll race over 40
I really appreciate what you did with this video, great job.
I mean whats not to like about a whole video presentation from the seat of such an amazing ride.
You gained a new subscriber.
That's just pure unbridled joy right there - love it Jason ! You can tell that you are genuinely chuffed at the performance, and just the sheer pleasure of driving this high revving natmo V8 😁 The smiles say there's no hiding how thrilled you are with the loud pedal controlled 'music' - so addictive ! 😄
Chevy really hit it out the park with this, hope its reliable enough when put on track, and hope they do something about the steering feedback a bit since heard its vague (historically last 2 generation was initially problem too, but in each case improved on later), but for most part if this ends up last ICE Corvette what a finale.
Solid daily drivable chassi, with predictable handling while being mid engine which in itself is rare feat, and V8 GM version of what made stuff like the S2000 a legend, amazing.
I think the really cool thing about the new Corvette is where it doesn't betray the history of the car, but instead of being all and only about tradition its very forward looking. Sure Corvettes have always had new technology but i think this differs a lot in sense it tears the Corvette a bit away (but not too far as to alienate) from the old Country Club stereotype about them, while adding appeal to much younger and or diverse crowd. Its a bit of a spaceship. I will stop gushing but i love that this ended up being how the Corvette turned out, i'd like to think Duntov is saluting the team behind this, it finally [curse word] happened.
Do a video on the difference between the Cadillac Blackwing and the LT6. I understand that they are completely different engine designs but it would be interesting to see the different type of development they put into the Blackwing and the LT6. GM dumped money into the Blackwing for no return I want to know why it was so expensive to make 😅
Love that last bit where you are having some fun with it hehe. Thanks for the great review!
Dual overhead cams, how did they think of that?! It's crazy
Great Video as always. I just love your engineering explanations. Keep them coming. The C8 Z06 is my ultimate dream car at any price. Thanks for this.
Being able to a explain a very in-depth topic while driving shows your dedication and love for your videos 👍
In the 90’s it was the Dual Overhead cam LT5. The later version came with 405 HP, but with a broader rpm range that allowed for making power above 7k rpms, it was able to outperform cars making more peak HP.
The z06 is the best supercar for the bargain and it is actually making 620 whp it’s underrated from the factory
Yeah yeah all cars are underrated from the factory on the right Dyno
A superb production, and so genuinely and enthusiastically presented. I loved it. Not jealous at all, he sobs.
I don't think I've ever seen another video of yours where you're grinning and giggling anywhere near like you are in the closing remarks of this video! You're clearly loving it! Great to see.
Jason, in your opinion why are so many Z06 engines destroying themselves...?
Can you do a video on what the fault is, or what you believe the problem with the engine is...?
I'm concerned about buying one because of this documented problem.
Thank you for explaining it from an engineer's perspective! 😃👍
Does it have port or direct injection?
I guess the next will be this new engine *with* forced induction, at least as a tuning kit. 🤪🤭
I have heard rumors that there could be issues with the engine and forced induction, lower end strength. pistons, etc.! But again, that's only rumors that i have heard!
Direct injection
@@EngineeringExplained One side of the coin: good, that GM has now OHC (50 years too late). The other side of the coin: bad, that they jumped on the bandwagon for DI only. 🤦♂️ There are 70 % to 90 % of constant speed where port injection is perfectly fine and the intake valves could be washed for avoiding carbon buildup. Why no dual injection like Toyota? 🤷♂️ DI and stratified load for max efficiency at low power and idle, dual injection for max acceleration and kickdown with intake cooling by port injected fuel, port injection for constant mid power??? 🤷♂️🤷♂️
@@u.e.u.e.yeah besides adding more parts/complexity/maintenance labor, dual injection on top of keeping valves cleaner, means one additional parameter you can tune so that the engine runs at its best (power/efficiency) at every rpm/load, sounds like something you would want in pretty much every engine. I guess the gains are maybe not as big as it seems.
@@geemy9675 I will *never ever in my life* buy a car with DI only. Period.
Guess why I bought an old model Toyota Yaris Hybrid XP13 in 2020 when the new model with a 3-cylinder DI engine was about to arrive? Because I had a Prius Mk 2 before with the same simple engine (1NZ-FXE) that was in good shape after more than 384,000 km of abuse (far delayed oil changes, drving on LPG(!) on German highways permanent max speed) - no turbo, no DI, no hydraulic lifters, just simple and long lasting technology! The intake valves got cleaned by a few seconds of gasoline injection every now and then (programmed). 😉
E92 M3 owner here, I love the S65 and I'm just glad that this car exists. Thank you Chevy!
Masterful video. Loved your direction & comparison between the engines interspersed with the diagrams and depictions of the engines. Well narrated: one of the most telling aspects when touching on how it “feels to drive” was simply the smile/expression on your face every time you used your right foot. :-). (Subscribing)
Impressive and what a sound! I don't care if EVs are quicker, this has soul and feeling and that's what does it for me.
I think the tesla s has soul. Lots of owners have stated that, and those people have driven porsche, corvette, ferrari, Lamborghini, and of course they have if they're driving a tesla s plaid.
@@williammorales3859 Each to their own. Not for me.
I love how Chevy made a better Ferrari than Ferrari has.
always. The people know.
It looks like a supercar, it isn't beautiful though.
Not better in terms of appearance. It's always easier when you have something to crib from.
Its not even close to a Ferrari in terms of looks. Especially the interior looks so gaudy in the Corvette. But you get what you pay for, this Corvette is all about the engine.
It’s really not a better Ferrari, Ferrari is more geared towards looks, sound, feeling and soul, compared to Porsche for example which is really solely geared towards performance.
It’s sort of like bragging your truck can pull a heavier trailer than a z06. Ferrari just aren’t making cars to have the absolute best lap times.
Brilliant video as usual brother, it’s a pleasure to hear your explanation, and impressive to see how you can do so driving the car!!!
I know I'm probably going to get lots of hate, but as a Corvette superfan for more than 30 years, I still think the C7 ZR1 is the more superior car, with my all time personal favorite being the C6 ZR1. Nothing beats a good ol' pushrod V8 slapped with a supercharger with a cross-plane crankshaft. The grunty sound when idle, the wild torque it generates and the thrill, speed and sound of that supercharger whine has so much more to it, especially with a manual transmission.
Omar I own a C7 Z06 manual and a C8 HTC Z51 and the C7 is hard to hook up and control it just wants to burn up the tires in all the gears but the C8 puts it to the ground immediately. I would assume the C8 Z06 does also. I love both cars but they are totally different beasts.
No hate here and you’re entitled to your opinion but physics and stats say otherwise
@@cloudstrife4897 what physics the C7 is a front engine with rear wheel drive. The C8 is mid engine with rear wheel drive. Mid engines or rear engines are known to have better traction due to weight distribution to the rear over the tires.
Love to learn more about automotive engineering and your discussions are always terrific. Thanks!
Ever since I first heard this car I've wanted it. I just wish the dealership markup wasn't insane, msrp is at least $50k lower than what's actually being sold for.
I wanted a R35 GT-R and though I could just wait until the used cars get on the market, and they just don't depreciate the way I thought they would unless they are completely clapped out. I hope that won't be true for the C8 Z06, but I'm not going to hold my breath!
@@anydaynow01sadly I don’t think the C8 Z06 will ever see much depreciation. It’s an instant classic and is likely the last American ICE vehicle that will receive this level of investment in R&D. I might never be able to afford one, but I’m happy that it exists.
Will be around $450,000 in Australia to get one for the average Joe, only $50k less than a flipped 992 gt3 🙄
Once the hype goes down the prices will come down.
19:37 that noise, followed by an involuntary smile... Things that EVs will never bring to the driver!
I know many will disagree, but I'm in the camp that believes this isn't necessarily true. Yes, to me, the sound, the vibration, the entire experience is absurd and my brain eats it up, I absolutely love it. But also, I grew up in the peak era of combustion cars. It's what I know. My first four cars had manual transmissions. But if you're born today that might be a very different story. I drive a Model 3 Performance and I'm yet to have a passenger that doesn't burst into laughter from the acceleration. If you grow up with it, it may seem better in many ways. When engines went from steam to gasoline, a lot of folks didn't like the change "loud, slow, smelly, etc." So I think a lot of it is what you know. But for me, yeah, an engine like this is hard to beat!
Have been waiting for your review on the z06. Awesome to see you giddy about it while trying to give the most objective review against it's predecessor. Love it!
Love this video!
Makes me even more anxious.
I started on the list at #27 and moved up slowly to #14. I love this car!!
This is a testament to the engineers who made it. So very cool what can be done when the company actually wants to put the resources towards a project.
If GM put half the engineering into the rest of their lineup as they did this new Vette, they'd be in a class all their own. Alas, that doesn't seem to be the case.
"If GM put half the engineering into the rest of their lineup as they did this new Vette" they'd be running out of engineers in day 2. Just look at how many people really are doing mechanical engineering at the moment.
How did they get all the power? Well, if you look behind me, they put a massive wing on it.
I know you didn't say that, but it would be funny if you did.
I think the huge smile on your face through the whole video says it all. Such an awesome car!
The video is great, but the smile the Z06 put on his face at the end 🔥🔥 nothing can defeat that.
"Violent but stable."
So...like a crazy person that's taking their meds. I think i get it.
Thanks for the content.
definitely not "Trump-like"
You make it seem like it's all benefits for OHC and flat plane over push rod cross plane.
What's the weight per volume of each? OHC motors are notoriously heavier compared to push rods and don't develop anywhere near the low end torque. The weight also sits much higher, which makes the car's center of gravity higher.
Flat plane motors also have shorter lifespans, Ford lost a lot of money on the voodoo in the gt350's because they were breaking down before their power train warranty was up often enough to be a legitimate issue, which is probably a huge factor in the gt350's short production life. I think GM has set themselves up to learn this lesson the hard way as well.
Maintenance is also generally speaking a lot simpler on push rod cross plane motors. And I may be misremembering, but aren't OHC motors harder to keep cool comparatively?
I'm sure there is a laundry list of other negatives in choosing this style of motor over the old one. Much of the other technology *could* have been implemented on the older one too.
I'm not trying to say it's not an impressive engine, it just seems like all of the reviews I've seen regarding this are positing that it's all advantages with zero drawbacks.
And motors still take TIME to increase revolution speeds. While it's making more horsepower at higher rpm, at equivalent speeds it's glaringly weaker, and it still takes time to get there, and clutch dumps at higher rpm have been more damaging to drive trains in my limited experience.
Are my concerns unjustified?
Very good points IMO. DOHC engines look more impressive on spec sheets, but if the pushrod engine is physically smaller, has a lower CoG, is lighter, and gets better MPG when crusing, who really cares which one has best HP per liter? 🤔
It always makes me laugh when people call the 6.2 a "big engine." It is physically smaller and lighter than many engines with half the displacement. It is smaller and lighter than the 5.0 Coyote engine from Ford, it is smaller and lighter than the 3.0 TTV6 that Nissan puts in the new Z, all while making more horsepower across the entire powerband.
There is a reason the LS swap is ubiquitous, the old pushrod 6.2 is simply the most displacement and torque you can get out of a tiny package.
Great video! Nice that they provide all of this information, and very well communicated on your end
Great video, always good content by Jason. You're making me want one!
The grin on your face says it all....
He's the type of guy who can explain on a white board precisely how the flat plane crank causes those smiles, with diagrams of both a crankshaft and the human nervous system.
As you all probably guessed, the engineering team tore into the Ferrari 458 engine, taking it apart to see exactly what made it tick. They learned some important lessons from the process and the result is an LT6 which so far doesn’t seem to be plagued with any big problems.😮
Right on
But you don’t see Ferrari tearing into GM engines tho, not worth their time
Just to let you know, the flat-plane crank was actually developed by GM in 1923, so is incorrect in saying that GM never built an engine without a cross-plane crankshaft. Also almost every 4cyl engine uses a Flat-plane crankshaft.
Facts check: During development of the company's first car, the Toyota AA, (1929) the company purchased locally manufactured GM and Ford products, reverse engineered them, and hired engineers who had previously worked at the Japanese Ford and GM factories in developing Toyota products, creating what's later called Toyota Motor co.😮😮😮😮😮😮
@@NEWNATURE777 wow 1920s isn’t that the same decade women got voting rights, come on bruh get with the times. Blatantly coping a companies design is something only developing countries and china would do now a days
Loved seeing Huron River Drive and other parts of the Ann Arbor country suburbs during the commentary. These less-traveled roads often have convoys of manufacturer development mules and Car and Driver test vehicles. Having lived there for 10 years, I never got tired of seeing the latest pre-production cars, even when they were disguised.
Zora Arkus-Duntov would be proud. I'm still getting used to hearing that engine wail coming from a Corvette.
That is some really cool tech! Although, I can't help but think that in a few years a lot of these engines are going to be broken! That is a ton of little stuff to go wrong. I hope the transmissions hold up so I can pick one up for cheap and LS swap it 🤣
I’ve owned both Corvette and Ferrari. Yes with a multi-cam flat plane crank engines, more maintenance will be needed but it’s worth it. I suspect $10-15K more into maintenance every 30K miles for a ‘23 Z06 Vette. $15-35K for a Ferrari every 20K miles is normal.
Lol now that would be hilarious
@Doan Trinh wow are you serious? I had no idea Ferrari maintenance was that high.
@@epi2045 I suppose if you can afford a $150k+ toy, you can handle the higher repair costs.
@@TimBass That’s exactly it. A lot of people are harping about the unreliability of the LT6 or high cost of maintaining the Z06 in the future. It’s part of owning an exotic car… which the Z06 is an American Exotic level car. I’m planning to get a non-Z06 C8 in 2-3 years to get away from some of the teething issues of a new run/platform.
Well.. the C8’s LT6 may have 20 more horsepower.. but it has *190 LB-FT LESS TORQUE*
People always seem to forget about the torque figure.. also don’t forget that the C8 Z is heavier than the C7!! About 200 pounds more! The C7 Z has a better power to weight ratio, and will accelerate better past a launch because of its higher torque figure!
I just watched a Hagerty video and the C8 ZO6 had the SAME EXACT LAP TIME as the C7 from 2015! I don’t care if it was freezing temps for the C8, it was on Cup 2 R’s!!
So if you ask me.. im gonna tell you that the LT4 is the “more powerful motor” even if it doesn’t rev as high or have the same peak power.
Yes, it had cup 2R’s, but cup 2 R’s will actually be worse then the standard Michelin pilot sports if they don’t get up to performance temp, which they didn’t. Those times would easily be a couple seconds quicker in the right conditions.
As well, the C8Z is NA. The lap times would only increase lap after lap, which is opposite of the C7Z.
@@CanadianSpeedster Randy was pushing that C8 pretty hard.. I imagine it had enough heat in the tires to set a pretty fast lap. Also we have to take into account that it was cold, so the C8 had the advantage of the air being more dense so it was making more than 670 horsepower, im sure the horsepower bump made up for some of the lacking tire temps.
@@fuze3522 C8 had more of a disadvantage being at higher elevation to be honest. At the end of the day the conditions were not good. We all know track temperature plays one of the largest rolls. I notice a difference just from cloudy days vs sunny days, never mind when it’s very cool out. Yes Randy was pushing it hard, but only as hard as him or anyone can when the conditions aren’t great.
@@CanadianSpeedster Well its still impressive to me the C7’s time. An 8 year old sports car can hold a candle to today’s mid engined supercars. C7 was truly a fantastic chassis and the most we can get out of front engined tech. And I’m excited to see the Hypercars that the ZR1 and Zora will be.
@@fuze3522 The C7Z’s were great, I love mine and it will never be sold Every second on a low time track is a huge leap forward. Once you get to this type of performance it starts to slow down with massive achievements.
Jason, you are awesome! That smirk on your face is priceless! I love all your videos, keep doing it! Awesome machine.
This is why I watch this channel ; concepts explained exceptionally well to dullards like me, while having fun. Respect!
Breaks all the rules including 50 to 100k markups over MSRP and have only made 1200 z06 Corvettes In a year.. This is not a car for the middle class it's only a car for the extremely rich who don't mind overpaying on an item and not getting a Porsche..
Chevy dealership can’t even service their own cars. GM thumbs down.
Nicely done. I love your content. Very educational and well-explained. And I like your smile when playing with the throttle 😂. You seem to have fun.
I’m a fan, so I’ve seen the whiteboard videos. Nice chart insertions.
Glad you like the C8 LT6!
Idk if I would call a car with that much plastic a master piece
real and true, I think Clarkson summarized it perfectly back in the day (not an accurate quote): 'Corvette is a great car, but you wouldn't want to actually own one'
Guessing that you didn't watch the video.
Where's all this plastic you're referring to? Plastic is light, it's a smart material in the right locations.
I'm sure that the compounds of carbon fiber are not 🚫 the same as plastic.
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That was a great video on the c8 zo6, I got my c8 zo6 last May and watched many videos but this was just the right amount of time and info about the car, you are very informative and entertaining 👍
Man I love this channel, the way the math checks out is a mix of science and art
Superb video. Communicates the feeling and overall engineering. Thank you.
This is the best Corvette Chevy has ever built, and waiting to buy the car for 40 years, believe me I know. Leach Wilson Chevy in Shelbyville IL is selling me, my build of the car a C8 3LZ Z06 with the Z07 package for MSRP. Aaron is my sales rep and he, as well as the rest of the sales reps, have been awesome. They are selling my build at MSRP, and as soon as I get it I will post it on line. These guys need to be commended for being so honest, and willing to work with the customer. They are way better than any other dealer I've dealt with.
Most of the dealers are out for themselves, its not that they aren't making enough money but they want to gouge for more. I had one dealer try to sell me a used Z06 that didn't have the Z07 package for over $ 210K??? Golf Mill was the worst they told me they didn't want my build that they would order what they wanted and auction it off to the highest bidder. These guys need to be boycotted.
truly amazing car and engine! i'm a jdm guy, my race car has 4age 20v blacktop -- but now i want this one!
I still love the crossplane V8 sound but it's hard to argue against the flatplane benefits.
Wonderful! Thank you so much, Jason, for this. It is just great!
Cool to hear Jason get giddy when he hit that accelerator. Nice to hear him break out full lecture mode👍
Well done and explained Video on the new Z06! I really enjoyed this, thank you.