“People Are Going to Die”: Supreme Court Case on Idaho Abortion Ban Threatens ER Care Across U.S.
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The Supreme Court heard arguments this week about the legality of Idaho’s near-total abortion ban, which criminalizes the procedure in all circumstances unless the life of the parent is at risk. It’s the first such case to reach the high court since the conservative majority overturned Roe v. Wade in 2022. A key issue is whether a state ban can take precedence over the federal right to receive emergency care, including an abortion. The Biden administration argued that Idaho’s law violates the Emergency Medical Treatment and Active Labor Act, or EMTALA. If the justices side with Idaho, it could have major implications for reproductive care and worsen racial disparities for healthcare in at least half a dozen other states with similar bans. “People are going to die,” warns Karen Thompson, legal director of the nonprofit advocacy group Pregnancy Justice. “They are going to be bleeding out in hospital rooms. They’re going to be dying from sepsis because doctors are not going to be able to make the choices that they need to make to give people the care that will save their lives in these emergency situations.”
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Why is the 'supreme' court taking the role of legislating rather than interpreting the law?
Agreed. Even though I'm anti abortion, I don't like that the courts are acting like our legislature and executive.
Nothing the SCOTUS does now is valid given the known corruption of how the later ones were appointed and the unreported "benefits" strictly political in nature or by political dark money.
Because, if it's not in the constitution it falls under states' rights. That's why. Same with Gay Marriage, not sure why the SCOTUS took the case, but of course California voted it down....But you are ok with the SCOTUS Legislating that, I assume, because Dems got their way with that one.
We are citizens of the federal government, too. Protecting citizens' rights against abusive policies is the business of the federal government. The US Constitution supports our Constitutional rights and citizenship and comes before all states, except for the original 13 colonies which legally are colonies today.
Murder is nobody's right, how sick
What happened to " abortion should be safe, legal, and rare "?
You did not stick to RARE….
Now apparently abortion is not about “people dying” - but to “save lives” somehow is a risk to mothers!?! They can’t make it make sense.
Fascism.
Why doesn’t the father have the right to decide whether or not they want the kid too?
@@Michaelhunt-Ertz-gi1sd If the fetus was directly connected to the father and was using their blood and nutrients, then the father would definitely have a right to decide.
Dehumanization of pregnant women. Fascism.
Why isn't the AMA advocating for the right of doctors to make their own medical decisions? Why aren't doctors fighting this encroachment on their profession, and fighting to protect their patients?
they are part of the plaintiffs with the patients who suffered denial of care
It doesn't matter. The AMA is a medical association, not a lawmaker. No matter what resolutions or stance they take on a particular issue, it means absolutely nothing to the people who make the laws. This is the case in 1000's of different medical issues. The whole entire U.S. system is totally rigged & easily found when you dig into it for yourselves. Oh, and most doctors can't afford to speak out otherwise they'll get targeted by the gov't agency du jour & lose everything in the process.
Because not all doctors like killing babies
Because of the oath, they took to become a doctor
Why are there no medical people in the decision making process on this?!? would doctors make legal decisions??
The vast number of obstetrical procedures were developed before Roe v Wade, tubal pregnancies and the like. Numerous obstetrics physicians have testified that this is a made up issue.
Anti abortion laws don't reduce the number of abortions, they increase the number of unsafe abortions.
Haha
Facts
women wouldn't have to worry about performing unsafe abortions if they took responsibility and used any of the 15 contraceptives available to them so that they do not get pregnant. it's called accountability... a pro-choicer's kryptonite.
All abortions are unsafe, they end in death.
@@mattmcneill3669 People can still get pregnant despite using contraceptives, they aren't %100 effective. Just like how you can drive responsibly (using your seatbelt, driving defensively, etc.), and still get into a car crash despite those things.
Idaho is a stand your ground state. You can defend your property with a gun, but you can't defend your body with a doctor? Make it make sense!
Killing a child isn't defending your body...
@@BennyRuff How do you think self defense works, exactly?
This is beyond appalling.
Yep. Since roe v wade, over 60 million babies have been aborted in America.
Back to the middle ages!
Why are so many people equivocating medical emergencies with elective abortion?
Darn good question , one can only surmise they are under I fluence of nefarious drugs. Sold at your local pharmacy
If evil can twist Scripture to suit himself, evil can spin anything for an evil agenda.
That is the question of the day!
@@lilblackduc7312God does worse things to children (incl babies) in the Bible.
It's not really twisting anything, it's just pointing out how God works sometimes.
There is no difference.
Criminalizing motherhood before a girl or woman might become pregnant is bad law... Politicians are not medical authority and should be arrested for impersonation and medical malpractice... They dont own or control women like a piece of property or livestock...
How, exactly, can a fetus have personhood when the Constitution, specifically, uses the word BORN? We are BORN free and equal. Where's the ambiguity that Human Rights are birth rights? It's literally right there in black and white, exactly as the forefathers intended.
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Idaho claims to be the bastion of small government and individual freedom yet in law after law they want the government to dictate every aspect of health care, recreational use of anything they don’t like( everything but alcohol ) and how you live your life or raise your family. As someone born in this state and had lived here for 70 years, I am now more afraid of my state government than I have ever been in my life Just to think if my daughter got raped by some maniac, she would be forced to give up her career and raise the rapist’s baby by the government while the same government is cutting welfare assistance, aid to pregnant mothers and Medicaid forcing my daughter into poverty and homelessness to raise this child. How can people want to do this to other people?
That is indeed something that drives me nuts: all those virtuous "pro-life" people just don't give a d*** what happens to the baby once it's born. They just want to have control over women. They pretend, but in fact they don't care a bit about people.
@@brimborium8065 Not even close to being true. There are over 23 federal and state programs to aid mothers.
Rape and incest pregnancies are very rare compared to the number of abortions/genocide.
@@JohnWarner-lu8rq but you still think the government has the right to run your body. If you don’t believe in abortion, don’t get one but your beliefs don’t give you the right to tell every one else how to live. It seems that those that most oppose abortion are fine with the genocide in Gaza so I don’t buy the moral argument. You and your family can run your lives. My family and I will run ours and don’t need the government to tell us how to do it.
@@JohnWarner-lu8rq No doubt. But you missed my point, which is that it's the same people who lament the "murder" of a poor fetus just a few weeks old who then go on to attack programs to help families and children in need. If such programs exist, it's *in spite* of these "pro-life" hypocrites.
I'm talking, of course, about pro-life activists who want to impose their views on everyone, not people who decide their own lives according to their conscience.
This issue should be decided at an individual level based on their medical history. Don’t regulate our bodies
Kinda surprised that Idaho trying to ban ERs and Hospitals from giving not only abortions, but emergency care to pregnant women wasnt on here.
HIPPA!
Isn't this between patients and providers?
No, no more than your opioids prescription is.
Abortion isn't about privacy, that's why roe was overturned. Because it was based on privacy
They don’t follow regulations or laws.
Only the blue states respect a right to privacy anymore. The Republican Party has become the party of Big Government that interferes in people’s personal lives, even when it puts those very lives at risk. They are cruel and heartless to people who are already born.
Only if your a man.
And violates individual rights...
Day one, send it back to the States. day two we don't like what the state said please get involved in our business again. GIVE ME A BRAKE.
Back to medieval times, any bad pregnancy didn't deserve any care !
I live in Idaho. I was born here in a hospital which was forced to cease delivering babies due to Doctors being forced out of the state. Now it's drive 50 miles or the er. ALSO the legislature has discontinued the bureau in charge of counting maternal deaths to make certain the damage they are causing isn't reported. A fetus which has no chance of living is not a child, it is a tragedy and these laws are compounding that tragedy.
THIS IS THE REASON THEY HAD TO CLOSE L&D UNIT
Press Release:
Discontinuation of Labor & Delivery Services at Bonner General Hospital
The number of deliveries at BGH has continued to DECREASE yearly. We delivered 265 babies in 2022 and admitted less than TEN pediatric patients.
There are many reasons, including a nationwide DECREASE in BIRTHS, an older population moving to Bonner County, and Kootenai Health having an UPDATED UNIT with Neonatologists and OBs in-house 24/7.
"discontinued the bureau in charge of counting maternal deaths "
They did something similar in a few other "pr0-1!fe" states, TX and AL among others. Not a coincidence.
In the ER for medical crisis IS the definition of a emergency.
So , if a Doctor won't help save the a woman in need is not AFRAID of law , he or she is PROTESTING the law .
The Law says ' you must save the lives of both the mother and child ,till the child is lost or to save the mother .
When something is threatening the mother you must save her .
Simple ,
In the mind of a doctor it is simple to lose any life?
Where is the line? Exactly how under threat do women have to be for you to not force them into being chattel incubators? NO other person gets that right that your want to give to a nonsentient foetus- NO one has the right to use someone else's body at their risk and without their express and ongoing consent. You cant even take organs from a corpse. So, clarfy, exactly, how nearly dead is enough for you? Why is health and well-being of some people sacrificed for you? Why is it okay to mutilate them and leave them with permanent problems? Because they didnt die this is ok with you? Vi le
You think doctors don’t fear losing their livelihood and being jailed by insane politicians and courts? Doctors are leaving the red states with these laws to practice in blue states where they are free to make decisions in the best interest of the individual patient.
That is not happening they are threatening doctors who are supposed to be doing there jobs no one is safe from there narrow minded people that want to pass laws that they know nothing about . Dr. Patient confidenciallity that's the law
I don't have a womb and I dont want women deciding the legality of my balls, so, Imma head out now. 😅✌️
A mother's life is just as important as a fetus.😊
Ummm people die either way...a baby in the womb?
The life of a fetus in the first trimester should be worth less than a human that has lived outside of the womb.
@@TelephoneToughGuyTHESE PEOPLE THINK PRECUM IS LIFE
@@GothTransCarlSHUTUP KNOB-GOBBLER , go find a freeway to play on.
People like you should be the ones supporting these people that nobody wants.
@@GothTransCarl why doesn’t the father get the right to decide if the baby is aborted?
I remember the Bernie folks assuring me that there was no difference between Trump and Hillary. What a bunch of liars.
We could still be in Afghanistan and probably have troops on the ground in israel/palestine under trump, the military would be all over campuses for sure, forget when we cut child poverty in half for some time that wouldn't have happened at all ... :D but arguing theoretics is a moot exercise.
I remember how y'all said my body my choice, then the jab came along an we said it and we were told we were banned from society, fired from jobs. Hmm
I remember how yall freak out over being told to wear a mask but not when abortion is made illegal. Hm.
@@Vigil00 👍
A pandemic which was threatening to overwhelm our hospitals is why getting a vaccine was important. How many people died of heart attacks or strokes or cancer but would have survived if the hospitals weren't so overcrowded?
It was an emergency!
@@yarnpower 💯
By going out you were thrusting your choice onto others by making them sick. Ab ortion isnt contagious. You were not prosecuted or imprisoned. Other people chose not to have contact with you. These are not the same
Idaho sucks and they are proud of it. No legal weed. No abortions. Come to Seattle!
Haha Seattle is a total dump and you people are clowns.
Moving there in two and a half months. I cannot wait to get away from these Liberal DEMON Progressives that just destroy.
What a moronic statement.
please, if I wanted to see druggies and homeless littering the streets, I'd go to New York. At least you have a chance at seeing a good looking celebrity there... unlike in No name Seattle. Plus At least in New york you can watch a decent sports team that doesn't actually suck.
The government nobody had no right to tell a woman what to do with her body nobody
Yeah we aren’t. Gain some common sense and intelligence. We are telling you what you cannot do to the child’s body, which isn’t yours or the woman’s body. Common sense stuff that evil people ignore.
@@Leftywrecker : A woman might not want to have a parasite leeching off her, so the woman elects to have it removed.
@@Leftywrecker look up bodily autonomy.
No one has the right to use another's body to survive. No one can even force a person to donate blood to save the life of another and donating blood is pretty safe.
Pregnancy, delivery and the month afterwards mean real health risks to the pregnant woman, so only she gets to decide.
but your saying she has a right to kill a human , because she was careless and made a baby to kill for parts, thats what they do with those parts that are ripped from her womb,they sell them,
@@presston5presston445 : Yes, she should be able to choose to do that. A fetus in the first trimester isn't much of a life yet, with brains less developed than an animal that is perfectly legal to hunt for sport.
Morning after pill? Needs to be OTC federally
( along with medicinal cannabis)
MMJ yes, the other one… well I can’t speak on that one
Years ago, I had respect for the Supreme Court. Today, they wreak of blatant political bias to the point where it's time to call for reform. In the last ten cases their questions hardly stick to the case at hand. Several are also are on the take for monetary gain. They've lost all credibilty with me. - Joe Frisina BA Pitt
Fascism and mysogyny always go hand-in-hand.
Yeah.... those damn leftists. Abortion and genocide are also the same thing.
Yeah, don't you just love the misogynists who insist that they are WOMEN & get a kick out of taking over OUR spaces?
The elitists need their dinner. That’s why they want to keep as many having these procedures as possible.
Ever notice U.S. has us in it? Ever notice DT is the initials for Delirium Tremors? Quick, call 'Q'
Stalin banned ab0rtion.
Women's rights have never been so in danger, reporters can't even say women either.
As a man, I am for a women only vote on abortion. Men should not have a say in something that affects only women.
I’m sorry but a small cluster of cells is not a child.
Uhhh… what does the cluster of cells turn into?
@@TLPmediaUSA you made my point for me.
Don't like it don't live in Idaho...NO ONE IS GETTING AIRLIFTED!
Yes idaho is a family state where as you can't kill your baby because you can't handle a baby right now,,that's hogg wash..if you don't want a baby then consider living a chaced life ,in idaho anyway,or go live somewhere else..Stop murdering the babys because that's what it is in the first place!!
@@REL602the states not going to be empty just because a portion of people don't know how to prevent pregnancy
@@DoSe420 Women are so ridiculous these days. Their grandmothers knew how to NOT get pregnant.
@@DoSe420 all forms of birth control when used correctly still have a 3% failure rate. And then there is rape, date rape, incest, etc.
@@DoSe420You don’t seem to understand that many things can happen to a fetus DURING even a wanted pregnancy as much as unwanted one, so it has nothing to do with avoiding pregnancy. Fetuses die die during pregnancy for any number of reasons. So a woman who wanted that baby should just die because the fetus died but abortion laws won’t allow the doctor to remove the dead fetus which will rot in her body and kill her too? The medical term for removing a dead fetus is also “abortion”.
This should be left up to the patient an Doctor.
"Pregnant people" honestly is such a refreshing thing to hear when talking about the right to abortion and what's happening in the U.S.
As a trans man I can't move to any state with these kinds of laws in place because of the possibility of getting pregnant and being forced to stop hrt. Since if I miscarried while on hrt, I could face criminal charges in some of them. While I know saying pregnant people doesn't inherently mean that the health disparity when it comes to trans people is there, it still recognizes that we exist and are facing the same thing.
"defends the civil and human rights of pregnant PEOPLE??????". This DEI hire is not for justice of anyone if this person will not use the word, WOMAN
No, she just has sensitivity for those who are trans.
Just saying “this DEI hire” is extremely racist and offensive.
WOMEN get pregnant.
DEI hire.
@@kgs2280oh no not offensive 😮
Way to focus on the wrong thing here. Apropos
Ya. Abortion does kill 😂😂
The government shouldn't be able to tell a woman what she can an can't do with we body.Freedom of choice.
“People are going to die.” People are dying…they are BABIES!
The irony in their headline is deafening LOL
If fetuses were people you'd have a point. Other adults aren't required to placate your imagination.
@Helios-- weird. I don't know about you but I haven't met one person who wasn't a fetus o.O
@@adoe2305 Whoa! Have you met anyone that wasn't a sperm, professor?
@@Helios-- Nope. I haven't met a single person who just came from a sperm. Have you?
Dear Amy, Please say "pregnant women," not "pregnant people."
Why, because you are in denial that trans folks exist?
@@yarnpower😂😂😂
Only females can get pregnant.
A transman is a female.
Transwomen are males.
So we should say pregnant females.
Just to simplify things for the confused that not all humans have the capability of becoming pregnant.
Only ONE of the TWO kinds of humans can get pregnant.
The female that has a uterus and ovaries are the ones that are capable of getting pregnant.
Yeah of course some females are infertile and can't get pregnant.
But no male can ever get pregnant because males aren't equipped with that kind of reproductive system.
I've decided to just use male and female cause some get so confused on what a man or woman is.
get over it. Stop being so nit picky.
@@justbe6387 trans MAN. operative word
. Yeah. A female that's a she who thinks she's a he.
Those kind of women, girls can get pregnant cause they aren't men.
“We’re all gonna die! …at some point” -Buddha
In case of rape, the life of the mother is in jeopardy, in the extreme poverty, abortion should be allowed. Abandoning the baby by the mother is worse. Children who are abandoned by parents, should be easier to be adopted by a woman and a man. Giving children for adaption to pederasts ("gay") and lesbians is wrong because the child could go grow up thinking he's "gay" or she's a lesbian although he or she is straight. I saw that in one of the worst episodes of Beverly Hills 90120 (1990-2000), [see Julius Evola, Metaphysics of Sex, Chapter About Homosexuality].
How many women have died from being pregnant as compared to those who have died from abortion ?how many women have had a better living after giving birth to their children as compared to those who have had an abortion?
The leading cause of death in women was child birth before prenatal care in some parts of the world "routine". On another note, women today don't fair better. Discrimination in the workplace and then, put through hell in a divorce. Too many men are resistant to doing their share.
With criminalization of doctors in their care of a specific woman, or threat of criminalization, they should move to neighboring states, and watch Idaho and these redneck states roll women back to historic times when prenatal care will be rare. Birth control access - next. No, thanks.
Why are you asking strange questions instead of looking them up yourself?
Abortion is way safer than being pregnant, delivering and the month after delivery.
And why on earth would having a child mean earning more money? Having too many kids or having them when too young vastly increases the odds of staying in poverty.
Sheesh, just look up the cost of daycare!
We aren't talking about normal pregnancies. These are emergency situations that are threatening the health of women. Would you let a woman die to give a fetus a chance at survival knowing she will be completely aware of her physical and emotional suffering and you might be leaving children motherless to suffer as well?
@@veronicawicker5273Sadly, yes. Yes they would. Because they don’t care about a woman’s life.
🤦♀️🩸of innocent babies are on your hands. Abortion is not a right or a health care issue , it’s straight up murder. There’s no other definition for this procedure, and I’m appalled at the ignorance and lack of empathy for one’s own child that is growing within your own body.
Nope, it is not murder, if it's done legally.
Look up the definition of murder.
@@TelephoneToughGuyokay Mr tough guy
@@TelephoneToughGuyyeah looked it up, it’s murder. You can change definitions all y’all want, but it will never change the truth
Please educate yourself before you make an ignorant comment like that.
Abortion is Slaughterhouse Butchery, and nothing besides.
Don’t lose focus on more important things than women uterus.
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Focus on things that really matters other than gun and women body. The leaders distract our attention from real problems they ignore to fix. Make us spend energy on law related to women body.
Is there a law related to men body that demand not to have sex when they will not be the father of their sex product.
In his much aligned attack on women one of the Cardinals cited a philosophy of the 17th century, a witch burner priest. So what could be wrong with that reference? We can start here: the Constitution is a product of the Age of Reason. This is where the founders found their wisdom.
The Court has one primary job. Intrepid the Constitution.
In this case Cardinal Alito decided to reach not two centuries but four centuries to justify his assault on women.
That’s not good enough Alito you either believe in the letter of the Constitution or you lie to say you do. The first amendment proscribed religion as the guide to governance. You by reference included it.
As I see it you were correct to defeat Roe but for the reason you know but did not understand. Roe was unconstitutional because it restricted the rights of women. What rights the list is long simply to restrict the right of women to pursue happiness. We start there. All abortion laws should be stricken. They are all Unconstitutional if examined by a just Court.
This Court majority seems caught in an Age of older generations when it was in the government interest to justify brooding. The State’s interest no longer exist in the USA. The government if it wishes can produce as many humans as it desires. We no longer need to force women into unwanted pregnancies.
Free women for a complete society.
Crazy state. Poor woman who live there, guess what merica isn't so free...
Free enough to allow that woman to move to any state she chooses.
Free to keep your legs closee
It's called birth control pills. Planned Parenthood was a FAILED program. They were in large cities where the average woman went back for 3 abortions before she had to wait 2 years to get another abortion. As a Federal Clinical Social Worker I know the statistics. Also, I had to have a medical abortion back in 1998 due to ovarian cancer. I was seen at St. Mary's a catholic hospital until I went into my 2nd trimester and was graciously with no recriminations to BJC. Women are being lied to and frightened into believing if a necessary abortion is needed somehow they will not be able to secure that surgery.
Murder is illegal in every state. Why should women be allowed to murder when men arent?
IM MOVING TO SOMALIA WHERE ITS BETTER
I STAND WITH MY STATE OF IDAHO!!!
You have blood on your hands then ❤
Taylor sounds to me as if you don't give two f**** about a woman's rights and while I will say that women should have all rights to have an abortion but that doesn't have the fact that they shouldn't be having unprotected sex if they don't want to get pregnant in the first place because by using protected sex that is basically preventing a woman from getting pregnant and that can help for not having to have an abortion. But still any woman should be able to have the right to have an abortion although I'm not sure if it it's related to anything regarding to health reasons although I can't really remember if it does but regardless any woman should be able to have the right to have an abortion just so that a female doesn't have the resort to you in a disposing of the fetus or the baby and end up taking the babies life.
@@isabelamogosanu7777 I gave my two cents to Taylor on your behalf because no State Should ban abortion laws
@@Eric-W28 thanks lol
@@isabelamogosanu7777BABY BLOOD
Force of cesearean in Idaho??? Destroy fertilitary!! Medivac out of Idaho????
You on both sides need to take your fight home. It is easy to talk mess thousands of miles Way from the dying.
Can we please stop saying pregnant people. This is about women. Women get pregnant.
Trumps stacked Supreme Court doesn’t mind a woman bleeding out
And the democratic stacked Supreme Court didn't mind fetuses hitting the floor
@@chipwhite7170Except one of you is a goddamned liar, and it's you. 🖕😐
alice cooper said it best with his song "only women bleed"
@@chipwhite7170
Why do Republicans always want to own women and take away their bodily autonomy? I thought slavery went out decades ago
@@chipwhite7170
Why do Republicans always want to own women and take away their bodily autonomy? I thought slavery went out decades ago
Where is Jill Steine?
The hospital, probably. She was attacked by police.
Under these circumstances, the silver lining lies in the decision makers' weight on preference: who should die? The Mother or the Unborn Fetus!
We know that the Mother has a high probability of future birth bearing:
While the Unborn Child faces Unimaginable future circumstances even if it wins the battle on decision: choose wisely: if the fetus lives: it takes 10 to15 years if it's a girl to give birth to another Unborn Fetus!!! On the other hand, if the mother lives within a year or two, she likely will conceive again...
Play the game 🎮
Child marriage in America needs to be banned nationwide. It’s still legal in most states due to loopholes due to the Republìcans. Restore Roe vs Wade. Raise the min AoM to 18. This must change now. Survivors need more rights.🌸Ⓐ🏳️🌈🏳️⚧️☭
Uhhh stop thinking about what you want to do to kids for a couple minutes please, it’s very off putting
Roe v Wade is not a Constitutional right. The Supreme Court is there to interpret the Constitution, they don't make laws. Other than that everything else you stated is a lie
Roe V Wade was based upon something that doesn't exist in the Constitution, a right to privacy. There'd be less need for abortions/genocide if 85% of males and females didn't act like sluts.
Who cares, bozo! 95% of women getting abortions already have on child. It is not child marriage that is the problem it is the inability of adult women to act intelligently.
Fuck that Rais AoM to 25, when the brain is fully matured, that's better than some arbitrary number. Better yet, don't restore roe vs wade. Instead acknowledge that the 14th amendment recognizes unborn babies as persons.
Someone without a voice does die with each "procedure".
Yeah. Cuz fetuses can't talk!
If the logic of Genesis is right about the self beginning at first breath, then the first experience of the self must be "hunger for air." Which is a term from the science of physiology.
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If this logic from Genesis is wrong and the self begins BEFORE the first breath, then some experience other than hunger for air must occur before the first experience of hunger for air.
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Maybe the first beat of the heart. However, there is self control over the breath but not over the heartbeat. I can take a few deep breaths and then hold my breath for a certain amount of time. But I can't take a few deep heartbeats and then hold my heartbeat for a certain amount of time. Self control exists for the breath but not for the heartbeat.
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The physiology might be that "astrocytes", "glial cells" in the brain, flood the system during parturition. Astrocytes are required for consciousness, because the "astrocyte syncytium" is a basic part of the brain. But instrumentation is difficult, if not impossible.
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At this point the self involves only the shortest terms of memory. No long term forms of memory exist yet.
(For more on memory and the self, please see the youtube video "A memory of kindness.")
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The logic from Genesis exists in the phrase:
"... the breath of life ..."
Logically there must be a first breath, and there must be a last breath. The self is finite, not infinite.
(For more quotations from the Bible, please Google this article:
Pro-choice pastors like Raphael Warnock have the Bible, history on their side)
Legal erratacation
No man should have any right to control any woman. The major of these women are going it alone as the father of these fetuses have walked away from all responsibility. Not all men but most.
no man want to raise some else child
So the government ought to have control over men and boys if they do not provide for that child!
No school, no job, no school, no money... Vasectomy!
Why only women?
Why not men and boys?
Vasectomy Vasectomy Vasectomy!
Gee, and who exactly CHOSE those baby daddies? Why on earth are women unable to take any accountability?
I have a idea 💡 crazy but true cross your legs and stop getting pregnant. Get married be responsible go to Church read the Bible raise your children in a Christian home. Problem solved and by a man.😊
Why don't we consider each sperm viable in the sense it could produce a fetus, and men can't just use it willy- nilly and no Viagra can be paid by insurance as a "medically necessary" medication? All our war against women...and time for women to realize that. No double, contrasting standards, or scrap it all!
abortion is not a human right, that's how twisted society has become.
About time its not the baby. l
If you apply the rules of life from the Bible, no one will have an unwanted pregnancy. Return to Jesus! While there's still time!
NPR... where truth goes to die.
Your mouth: where 💩 goes to live.
Dont go to medical school to practice medicine! Just become a legislator or a judge (no skills, knowledge, training or ethics required!).
You should be at work or at school this time of day.
Legislature takes a majority of support to get elected, and judges rule based on arguments from lawyers and written laws.
@@JohnWarner-lu8rqRight, because you assume that everyone who writes comments to this video lives in your time zone. Wtf is the matter w u
@@DoSe420 : You forgot the part where judges take their own political leanings into account.
E.g. Roe v Wade would never have gotten overturned if majority of the justices were appointed by Democrats.
@@DoSe420 You forgot the part where judges take their own political leanings into account.
E.g. Roe v Wade only got overturned bc majority of justices were appointed by Repubs
The Bible tells blk ppl to b fruitful and multiply and that's exactly what's happening. Nothing Esau can do.
Wait, did you just say that Black people should “be fruitful and multiply”? Does that mean that White people should not???
@@kgs2280 That's exactly what I'm saying.
My sun 🌞 is laughing at this 😂😂
Your sun? Aha. I see.
Huh?
@@71suns you ain’t seen nuthin yet 🔥🫡
🤦♀️ohmg. Now you’re pulling the race card?!! WTH? Vile.
Especially considering the state. There aren't a whole lot of black women in Idaho.
What race card? It is true that a bigger percentage of pregnant black women die than white women. Facts matter.
They are stating the facts. More people need to understand factual information, because there seems to be a lack of that in many of these comments.
Maybe they should educate how to use birth control. Or how about not have sex if getting pregnant is a worry. Someone’s irresponsibility is not an excuse to allow murder. Abortion should only be ok in case of rape pregnancy or medical emergency.
Contraceptives are not 100%
@@nacarreira777 not having sex is a good contraceptive.
All forms of birth control, used properly, have a 3% failure rate.
So are you saying that having sex is an agreement to go through a pregnancy?
Is a married couple supposed to stop having sex once they have the number of kids they can afford?
@@R.E.A.L.23 It sure is and I'm all for it, but husbands don't appreciate it.
@@yarnpower I had my tubes tied when I was done having kids. Yes accidents happen. Plenty of people would adopt a baby. Murder is not a solution to any problem. There r many options to use as birth control. Vasectomy, tubal ligation. Many types of birth control including day after pill. I’d fix myself before murdering a baby.most people regret having abortions at the end of the day and they live with that life long. Also there can be complications and death risk from abortions too.
Don't care to listen to amy
Anyone who’s ever read the Constitution KNOWS that the federal gov’t/its laws supersede state gov’ts/their laws. Yet here we have Idaho seriously trying to argue the opposite & worse, SC Justices actually entertaining it! If you’re a jurist who refuses to abide by basic principles of federalism, you shouldn’t be on the SC!
*Cough* - Thomas, Alito, Gorsuch, Kavanaugh - *cough* …
I agree only under the most dire of circumstances should an abortions n be done. In early 70s watched a film on the diff types of abortions and they are horrific and the women are never the same.
And that’s exactly what this case is about: how “dire” does it have to be before a doctor is allowed to save the woman’s life? One of the problems with waiting too long, besides the woman dying, is that she may never be able to get pregnant again, or she’s permanently damaged, even if she wants a baby in the future.
Abortion was very different in the 70s than what it is today. And it was much, much worse in the 60s and before abortion was legalized. Many, many women died horrible deaths because they couldn’t get abortions, and that is going to start happening again. In fact, the maternal mortality rate (women dying during pregnancy or childbirth) is already going up in states which have made abortion illegal again. So, women are already dying.
The data shows that the vast majority of women who have abortions are glad they did. The ones who were forced to give birth have higher rates of poverty and depression.
you saw antichoice propaganda. i know a lot of women who had abortions and NOT ONE regrets it. not one.
Abortions should be considered freedom of religion. Not everyone agrees with when the soul enters the fetus/baby.
what's the woke pope's position on this?
It has nothing to do with the soul.
Is it OK to kill a baby/fetus right before she/he is born? How about after the baby is born?
@@SIKE01 He's one of the worst Popes ever.
We know the baby is viable outside the womb at 22 weeks, so no abortions after that time. They can do a c-section.
There is one fact that is overlooked by every person who claims the fetus has equal rights with the pregnant woman. These people would let the woman die rather than give her the care she needs. They seem to not understand that if the woman dies, the fetus dies too! This fact is so obvious and so ignored by the ignorance demonstrated in Idaho. This fact is reason enough to give the woman greater rights than the rights of the fetus. Forcing the woman to die means two dead bodies instead of one. There is no logic to that!
Good.
Most abortion/genocide laws have allowances for the health of the mother.
@@JohnWarner-lu8rqyet doctors are still afraid of performing these life-saving procedures due to fear of prosecution. The law is so vaguely worded that even if this decision does save the life of the woman, a judge could argue that it wasn’t necessary. It’s a slippery slope that will lead to more suffering and death of pregnant women due to not being able to get abortions in certain states.
@@alexanderkantz Gee, how hard is it to go to another state? This is not colonial times where we travel by horse and buggy.
@@alexanderkantz There are very, very few cases of rape and especially incest. I have an idea, don't spread your legs until you're married. And no, the males are just as much at fault. Sex isn't supposed to be a recreational activity unless you're married.
Virtually every county and state have fines and laws against animal cruelty, and yet the Death Cult thinks killing the most innocent among us is somehow okay. Abortion is genocide, not health care.
Babies are people😢
shut up
As liberals we should defend those who can't defend themselves. Who are the most defenseless people? Babies.
The babies in this sc case are dying and severly threatening the health of the women. Please listen
I love how YT always blocks my comments
Abortions murder babies evryt time...
If the baby is already dying or killing the mother, then the pregnancy has failed and in nature, the offspring would not survive. So you are telling me that I can use modern medicine to help save the fetus only? What if aborting the fetus is the only way to save the mother? The rights of an unconscious lump of cells is more than the rights of a fully developed and conscious adult human?
Abortion care has never been and it never will be murder. And, if states like Idaho allow women to die to avoid saving their lives through emergency abortion medical care, then the blood of those women's deaths will be on their hands. It is always been more than ok to end a pregnancy in cases of medical emergencies like placental abruptions and ectopic pregancies along with cases of rape and incest too.
@@veronicawicker5273name one procedure that requires killing the unborn baby to be successful.
@Joshua_Froschauer: Murder is, by definition, an *unlawful* killing.
Therefore abortion is *not* murder, if done legally.
@@gl3913it has always been murder. Next your gonna say your a nazi and gassing the Jews wasn’t genocide 🤡
please, it is a pregnat woman not a person!
So children are women to you? What is the age of consent to you….5?!
@@ladylaurus8493 if you can gat pregnent you are a woman.
Almost three times the abortions are performed in the US than in European countries,. The US is quite extreme in this issue compared to other countries.
There are 300 million people in the U.S.
Plus I want to see the actual number....
6 women have been airlifted to neighboring states so far
Just go to a different state for your abortions. What's the big deal??
Are you ignoring that there are many poor women who can't afford the transportation costs, the hotel room needed, the extra time off work to travel, etc.
And you are ignoring the topic of emergency room care. A woman can have a wanted pregnancy but suffer a miscarriage, which can mean the need for emergency care if hemorrhaging. Also, if the sterility of the womb is broken, as when the 'water breaks' too early, if the fetus and placenta is not removed within 24 hours, a terrible infection will lead to the loss of the woman's uterus or even her life if she gets sepsis.
@@yarnpower Anyone who can't afford a bus ticket and a hotel room can't afford to raise a child so they shouldn't be sleeping around with people.
Women can still get medical care, they just can't schedule an appointment to kill their baby.
@@yarnpower What do you not understand about there being an exception for when the life of the mother is at risk? In the scenarios you listed, the baby would be delivered in an attempt to save both or the pregnancy would be terminated if it’s early in the pregnancy.
@FirstNameLastName-wt5to Did you even watch the video? In states controlled by Republicans, the so-called exceptions are meaningless, because the politicians threaten the doctors with jail or loss of license. That’s why many doctors are moving to blue states.
Did your mother have any offspring that lived?
If one is not ready to be pregnant then one should abstain from activities that may result in pregnancy. A true woman should be selfless and willing to risk it all for her child or unborn because we are all going to die at some point so the future of humanity should be top priority and the preservation of our DNA.
Nonsense. A woman has a duty to the children she has more than an embryo or fetus.
We have over 7 billion people on the planet!
Put your own life at risk if you like, but you have no right to demand anyone else risk their life because of your fantasies.
@@bevtaylor5466 you're welcome to have it your way
Balls. Explain the little girls and women raped and then pregnant.
@SongCada-pb4ey Everyone should be free to make their own decisions, but the corrupt justices who claimed Roe was settled law and then overturned it anyhow have created a mess that has to be cleaned up. Women have rights in all the blue states, but not in many of the red states where there is minority rule. Every single state that has allowed a vote on this issue has come down on the side of prochoice, even red states like Kansas.
Pregnant person. 😂😂😂😂
Don't Murder Your Children.
No children are murdered during an ab 0rtion.
This is not a political issue. It is a health issue. It depends on the situation if a woman is raped, health concerns, etc. This makes me upset!!! The USA 🇺🇸 lost reverence with God. Always in control.
Sometimes God asks us to kill babies.
This has been documented in The Bible.
1 Samuel 15:3
UAHHHHH ISRAEL IS THE BOSS OF AMERICA.....
Most abortions are performed because of unwanted pregnancies, not high risk pregnancies. How about picketing and marching for responsibility. Can they be held accountable for anything. Be responsible for your actions.
Define what a woman is first.
That's irrelevant to this topic.
@TelephoneToughGuy How so? Doesn't this only effect WOMEN? Uneducated liberals never fail to prove how uneducated they are.
@@TelephoneToughGuyoh but it is.
You go first. Because if you don’t know what a woman is, you’ll never have one.
@@Cosmic_Djinn Nope. Whether a person should have the right to an abortion has nothing to do with what the definition of a woman is.
Some people who identify as men have given birth, btw
So why does the father not have a say in whether or not to keep a baby?
Simply put, he is not risking his health or life but the pregnant woman is. Just as no one can force you to donate a kidney or even blood, because it means health risks to you as a donor, a pregnant woman should be the only one to decide to continue the risky business of pregnancy, delivery and the month after delivery.
Why? It doesn't affect his autonomy or his physical life.
If the father is pregnant, he should have a say.
So why is he financially obligated to care for it. If he doesn’t want it.
@@nacarreira777 if he doesn’t want to pay child support he is put in jail. Which does affect his autonomy and physical life.. goofball
IT IS ABSOLUTELY INSANE THAT WE AS A PEOPLE ARE DEBATING WHETHER OR NOT BABIES SHOULD HAVE THE RIGHT TO BE BORN.
I always thought the issue was whether or not the federal govt should fund it, If it has now become a bigger issue then my question isnt when is the spark of life. I would argue that some people never get that spark over life. I do reject that life starts at moment of conception. Quite the opposite, I see life as a coming into being much earlier than what is said and it would be that our lives started when our soul started and that is not at the point of conception. So in many wars, the right to have an abortion and right to life is out of my perspective. if one were to follow through that abortion is murder then do we make the mother a a killer or is that saying merely symbolic because if you want to follow that through then you would have to follow that with the death penalty and I know thats where even the evangelicals and catholics draw the line because that would be immoral. So you can say its denying life but you cant say someone committed murder. They are not the same,
If one equates their religious view is interconnected with the law of the land then I would say your religion is technically the govt and the supreme court has argued that is a legal direction in that the govt cant dictate that the govt can make you follow them be ause that equates to freedom to worship in a way that is forced where the govt is your god.
So, if our views are seperated from legislation then your religious views are more legitimate than if you legitimize the govt according to its laws its a strange connection but if you want seperation of church and state than you do not want to make abortion a teligious topic.
Perhaps the actual laws are just too general. I would say there are cases that it is a true medical emergency and that some of these things are out of the scope.
Doctors say there are too many possible complications to ever write a law to cover every exception. That’s why it makes no sense to set a certain number of weeks, because an abortion can become medically necessary no matter that person’s politics or faith. Almost all abortions are very early on. Nobody is going late term and just making an elective decision to end it, because the later it is done, the more risky it becomes. The only logical thing is to let doctor and patient decide.
Where is the Democracy for those that can not defend themselves? Those little ones that have not learned a language and have not worn clothes yet.
They aren't citizens yet, so they shouldn't have those rights yet.
This is about life threatening pregnancies. Should a woman be allowed to die so that a fetus might survive without her? What about her being completely conscious of her suffering and her kids that need her or her family? The fetus might not even make it or might suffer effects due to the unhealthy pregnancy. So is the fetus more important than the woman carrying it?
UNTIL LIVING, BREATHING KIDS AND PEOPLE ARE HAVING THEIR RIGHTS VIOLATED, THEN NO! They don’t matter. And I said it and not sorry for saying that!!
@@veronicawicker5273A fetus cannot survive outside the womb.
You mean your children ages 2-18? 😂😂😂😂
Who is going to die? What is she talking about? Abortion is legal according to States. Pregnancy is NOT FATAL without a proven medical issue causing possible death of the mother. Go to another state. Sorry for the inconvenience.
There isn't even a medical reason. Not a single procedure requires killing the baby to be successful.
You are not following what is actually happening.
Miscarriages happen a lot. On average, every woman will have at least 1 or two. If the miscarriage is happening, labor happens to push the contents out of the uterus. Most of the time this all goes smoothly. But If the place where the placenta is attached comes loose too early, or if a bit of placenta tissue is still in the uterus, it can't contract and shut off the blood supply that used to go to the placenta, so uncontrollable bleeding happens. To stop that woman from bleeding to death, she needs an abortion immediately or she will die.
The other problem that can happen is if the plug that seals off the uterus from the outside world with all its germs, is breached, bacteria will invade the uterus. No fetus can survive that so an immediate abortion is needed to save the life of the woman from dying of infection. And if the abortion is delayed, waiting for the fetus' heartbeat to stop, the infection may be so massive the woman will die or at the very least, lose her uterus.
These are the problems that state is now threatening ER doctors with lose of their license and prison time if they try to save these women's lives.
@@yarnpower That's dilation and curettage not abortion. A dead baby in the womb is not the same as an elective abortion and YOU KNOW IT. Stop the lies.
This lady is referring to an unborn child, as if it's a thing. Yes it's a fetus, but also a human being. Is the fetus human, yes it is. Becareful of listening to someone who may dislike children, or babies for some weirdo reason😮
You're effing toenail is also human.
I hope you don't clip it or anything.
Fetuses aren't human beings. Other adults aren't required to placate your imagination.
@@Helios-- You sound like a dam fool, because if the fetus has a beating heart, it's considered a living being. You must have something against babies, and that's the problem, too many ill responsible people having a voice to mislead.
yeah unborn babies!!!😒
I feel and care more about a BORN woman or girl that is faced with an unplanned or unwanted pregnancy than I do for a fertilized egg,zygote,embryo,or fetus.
@@jasonweinstock1282planning pregnancy is extremely difficult and 99% of pregnancies are unplanned. Doesn't make it right to kill innocent children.
@@RextheRebel nonsense stat there. They are not children, they are embryos or fetuses. And this article is about ER care for a woman who is bleeding out or whose water has broken too early for the fetus to survive outside her body. Those women need immediate abortions to not die from bleeding out or having a massive infection.
@@RextheRebel whether or not a pregnant woman or girl wants to carry on with a 9 month pregnancy should be up to her,and not every pregnancy is easy peasy!
Abortion for medical reason, baby malformation , or raped.i understand . BUT because some women don't take a comtraceptif. Or forgot ,NO it is your responsibility
Honestly rape and deformity doesn't mean the baby isn't a person without rights. It's a 14th amendment issue, and any killing of the unborn should have to be adjudicated in court
All forms of birth control used properly have a 3% failure rate.
@@djayt1215 Nonsense. The trauma of rape should not mean a forced pregnancy. That would be a way to compound the trauma. And in most states the rapist once out of prison has parental rights, so the victim would be forced to interact with her rapist and worry about her child being with him!