Brilliant video so much information and how to put it into practice... I’m test riding one in a couple of days and now know how to work the TFT without wasting my test ride trying to get my head around it.
Thanks for that - its exactly what I've been looking for. Can you elaborate on the selection of the mode changes whilst moving? You say something like "back the throttle off and push forward". What do you mean by that? Its not what I understand from the manual. Thanks again.
Maybe I'm being a bit too flowery with my words! Yes, just close the throttle. After selecting a new rider mode with the joystick (or just keep pressing the mode button until you settle on the mode you want as an alternative method) you then press the joystick (like a mouse click) to select that new rider mode, at that stage the new mode is only pending and not active. You have 30 seconds to activate the new mode, if you don't it assumes you changed your mind and leaves everything as is. The bike doesn't change to the new rider mode until you either close the throttle or pull in the clutch in momentarily, it is a confirmation you want the mode to change while you are under full control and not mid acceleration or braking for example. It will not allow mode change while the brakes are active either. I guess Triumph just want to check you are fully in control of your bike before it switches modes on you. e.g. you don't want a big power surge between rain mode and sport mode while accelerating around a wet corner. If you are stopped mode changes just happen instantly when you click the joystick.
Hi. Loved the video. I was told the Tiger 1200 had 6 display modes. I can only find 3 on my XCA, and whilst i can tinker with them none look like the one you have displayed. Only the new 675 seems to have this display. Or am i missing something ??
Ian Rodie - Hi Ian, go into the menu and change to/from theme 1 to theme 2, each has three display modes. If you really like a particular display and want to use it all of the time you can uncouple the display change when rider mode is changed. It’ll be obvious in the menu when you find it.
Nick Truelsen - Hi Nick. Alarm is optional and it drives me crazy. It’s an insurance thing here, you pay more without one. It arms within 45 seconds if you don’t arm it which is far too quick and mostly inconvenient. Cheers!
Thanks for that mate very useful for my new tiger1200 also enjoying your Scottish series I took a pillion out on mine last weekend for 1st time and I assumed the bike would automatically adjust to suite but not sure now there’s no mention of pillion or luggage settings in the manual or no display confirming the bikes adjusted as with the GS. The bikes steering did feel a little light at times you know like when you haven’t bothered to adjust the pre load on standard bike. Would be interesting to hear your opinion
Hiya, thanks very much. It is because the rear preload is controlled by a closed loop control system. It measures the rear sag when you load it and sets rear preload accordingly. You can see the feedback rod on the bike. That is why you have no button to set for passenger or extra luggage on the T12. Those systems are "open loop" where you set say for passenger and luggage and it adds more preload because you told it so, even if it is not the case. The open loop systems don't know any better and assumes you made the right choice. What happens on the T12 is that when fully loaded up it does exceed the full range of rear shock adjustment, you are basically maxing out its preload range and the rear is sitting a little lower. I do find the front a little lighter too when loaded up but still find it a very decent handling bike. As it happens the entry level XR model with manual suspension has front adjustable preload and you could back this off a little and drop the front again to your liking. Proof the TSAS preload is as they designed is the fact Triumph put a little lever to dip the headlights for loaded riding. Another words they knew if you approached the max loading of this bike the rear TSAS preload will not take all of this rear SAG out and you need to dip the headlights a bit. This light adjustment lever is for this purpose, not to be confused with the regular light adjustment screw. If you very regularly ride fully loaded and you dislike the ride still you might be tempted to drop the forks in the yokes by a couple of mm, don't go mad though.
Terry Cox Thanks for the full explanation I thought it was automatic but still think it would be better with a note on the dash just to let you know what the bikes up to. We were on a camping trip and did have tent sleeping bags etc but I’m only 64 KG and she’s 54 KG (so I stoped watching your full loaded vid as you said lol) But yes over all it does handle well Cheers again.
Thank you for this helpful video. I am very picky about these riding modes. You did no go through all the details of available choices in there: can you tell me in which mode ABS and TC can be switched completely off? I might buy this new "Special Desert Edition" they revealed at Brussels Motor Show this week, it is basically an XCx model with a few accessories and a very (very) nice colour scheme. Being an XCx, the "User" or "Rider" mode would not be available. Can you tell if it is possible to customize the riding modes on an XCx model? Or has anything been upgraded in there since this video? Again, very helpful, thank you very much!
You can switch off traction control and ABS independent of the rider modes as a separate choice, it will reset though on power off. The 2018/19/20 model are all the same, no change so far. Even without the "Rider" mode you can still customise settings within the others. E.g. in RAIN mode you could leave the ABS and Traction as is but put the throttle response to "Road". That might be useful say on a long straight motorway/freeway type road in the wet where you want max support from ABS and Traction but full engine power for overtaking in the knowledge you are on a straight road and the bike is always upright. RAIN mode acceleration is quite muted and it has caught me out a couple of times (on fast roads), hence the suggestion. I do use RAIN mode a lot though and like it on the smaller curvy stuff. I think the XCx is the best value bike, Desert Edition sounds nice. Only buy the bike if you can totally flat foot it, if not consider the XRx low version.
I did sell it but that was back in November last year. It ended up in a dealer further south if I remember correctly. It might of found its way back to Dublin Triumph.
Hi Terry, I love the rider mode set up for parking where the bike lowers at the rear. I would like to have a different TFT display for this mode to remind me that I have altered the set up. The TFT seems to reset to my default on start up, is there a way to keep a different screen to rider mode permanently? I have sport mode set this way and it operates fine. Thanks
Hi Tony, I don’t see anyway of choosing which screen gets associated with a particular rider mode other than what Triumph selects. You can obviously disassociate riders modes from screen choice but not actually associate them. I would have a play and investigate more but unfortunately I am waiting ona replacement switch cube from Triumph. You could set ABS to off-road and then the ABS warning would remind you but then you wouldn’t be able to change rider modes on the fly.
good video, I have a 2020 desert edition, I love the bike but... One thing that annoys me is the inability to set at low contrast and keep it there. I find it hard to see the high contrast when the sun is high and behind me. It only gives high and auto. I have a scrambler xc also and you can switch between three modes, low, high and auto. Does anyone know a solution to this?
See if this sorts you out? Fantastic looking bike in the Desert Edition, congrats. www.tiger-explorer.com/index.php/topic,18876.msg221141.html#msg221141
Not enough space on this display for Navigation and I'm not sure they can legally switch out the speedo completely for full Nav. I have a separate Sat Nav but Triumph did drop the ball on this 2018 model with no factory high mount point above the clocks which was on Gen 1 and 2 models. I crafted my own instead.
Stop Press - the new Triumph 1200 Scrambler has a "turn by turn" sat Nav from google maps as an option. Triumph have confirmed that this bluetooth add-on will be available as an upgrade to the TFT equipped Tiger 1200's (and other TFT equiped Triumphs) in 2019. So, not a full Sat Nav but something many might find good enough.
Why would anyone give thumbs down to this great informative video? Top job Terry, thanks!
Too king Andrew. 👍. I know, it is a bit weird to get a thumbs down? I don’t mind criticism in the comments if they are well founded.
Brilliant video so much information and how to put it into practice... I’m test riding one in a couple of days and now know how to work the TFT without wasting my test ride trying to get my head around it.
That's it, any new test ride and you just don't have time to fiddle with these things. Enjoy the test ride!
Thanks for the reply...
Brought one Laguna blue 1200 tiger XRT.. and yes put all the info to good use on the TFT.. great bike can't wait pick it up...
@@asimms4101 Brilliant, enjoy!
Thank you Terry, really helpful. Picking mine up on the 5th March and I can use all your work to familiarise myself with all the options beforehand.
cx07bzh - that’s great, enjoy!
Good comprehensive review. I have plans to buy one of these in the spring and this helped verify my decision.
Ben Brandon - excellent, glad you found it useful Ben.
Thx. Vielen Dank für die Erklärung. Das war hilfreich.
no problem.
Ha! Exactly what I have been looking for, without even knowing it. Thanks to you (and to the YT algorithm).
Good stuff!
Thank you Terry, I am picking up my 800 XRT in 3 days time so this is very helpful.
The new 800 looks fabulous, enjoy the new wheels Mark. Most items are the same except there is no TSAS on the 800 of course.
Cheers for this, saved me a few hours of faffing about with my new toy too😊
Excellent, more time for riding so!
That is slick! I want wanna these. I hope Mama likes it too.
Very informative terry, I look forward to seeing your review
Many thanks, a bit long winded I know but a lot to get through.
I guess there is no option for connecting phone with tft display..
Raghav P - no, no connectivity at all.
Very helpful as I pick mine up today 😎
Dark Horse - excellent! Enjoy, it’s a fantastic bike.
Great detailed walkthrough! Thanks.
Joe Sokohl - thanks Joe
Thank you
Congratulation on your new bike
thanks, really enjoying it.
Terry Cox
That l belive...also great to see something else than GS's.....
Toby 750 - 5hrs in the saddle today, no discomfort at all, I could of done another 5. The seat is very good.
Terry Cox guess its made for long hauling
Thanks for that - its exactly what I've been looking for. Can you elaborate on the selection of the mode changes whilst moving? You say something like "back the throttle off and push forward". What do you mean by that? Its not what I understand from the manual. Thanks again.
Maybe I'm being a bit too flowery with my words! Yes, just close the throttle. After selecting a new rider mode with the joystick (or just keep pressing the mode button until you settle on the mode you want as an alternative method) you then press the joystick (like a mouse click) to select that new rider mode, at that stage the new mode is only pending and not active. You have 30 seconds to activate the new mode, if you don't it assumes you changed your mind and leaves everything as is. The bike doesn't change to the new rider mode until you either close the throttle or pull in the clutch in momentarily, it is a confirmation you want the mode to change while you are under full control and not mid acceleration or braking for example. It will not allow mode change while the brakes are active either. I guess Triumph just want to check you are fully in control of your bike before it switches modes on you. e.g. you don't want a big power surge between rain mode and sport mode while accelerating around a wet corner. If you are stopped mode changes just happen instantly when you click the joystick.
Terry Cox Perfect - nicely put 😉
Hi. Loved the video. I was told the Tiger 1200 had 6 display modes. I can only find 3 on my XCA, and whilst i can tinker with them none look like the one you have displayed. Only the new 675 seems to have this display. Or am i missing something ??
Ian Rodie - Hi Ian, go into the menu and change to/from theme 1 to theme 2, each has three display modes. If you really like a particular display and want to use it all of the time you can uncouple the display change when rider mode is changed. It’ll be obvious in the menu when you find it.
Great video thank you Terry. Is the Alarm standard or an accessory? If standard can it be removed? It would really really annoy me!
Nick Truelsen - Hi Nick. Alarm is optional and it drives me crazy. It’s an insurance thing here, you pay more without one. It arms within 45 seconds if you don’t arm it which is far too quick and mostly inconvenient. Cheers!
Thanks for that mate very useful for my new tiger1200 also enjoying your Scottish series
I took a pillion out on mine last weekend for 1st time and I assumed the bike would automatically adjust to suite but not sure now there’s no mention of pillion or luggage settings in the manual or no display confirming the bikes adjusted as with the GS.
The bikes steering did feel a little light at times you know like when you haven’t bothered to adjust the pre load on standard bike.
Would be interesting to hear your opinion
Hiya, thanks very much. It is because the rear preload is controlled by a closed loop control system. It measures the rear sag when you load it and sets rear preload accordingly. You can see the feedback rod on the bike. That is why you have no button to set for passenger or extra luggage on the T12. Those systems are "open loop" where you set say for passenger and luggage and it adds more preload because you told it so, even if it is not the case. The open loop systems don't know any better and assumes you made the right choice. What happens on the T12 is that when fully loaded up it does exceed the full range of rear shock adjustment, you are basically maxing out its preload range and the rear is sitting a little lower. I do find the front a little lighter too when loaded up but still find it a very decent handling bike. As it happens the entry level XR model with manual suspension has front adjustable preload and you could back this off a little and drop the front again to your liking. Proof the TSAS preload is as they designed is the fact Triumph put a little lever to dip the headlights for loaded riding. Another words they knew if you approached the max loading of this bike the rear TSAS preload will not take all of this rear SAG out and you need to dip the headlights a bit. This light adjustment lever is for this purpose, not to be confused with the regular light adjustment screw. If you very regularly ride fully loaded and you dislike the ride still you might be tempted to drop the forks in the yokes by a couple of mm, don't go mad though.
Terry Cox Thanks for the full explanation I thought it was automatic but still think it would be better with a note on the dash just to let you know what the bikes up to.
We were on a camping trip and did have tent sleeping bags etc but I’m only 64 KG and she’s 54 KG (so I stoped watching your full loaded vid as you said lol)
But yes over all it does handle well
Cheers again.
Thank you for this helpful video.
I am very picky about these riding modes. You did no go through all the details of available choices in there: can you tell me in which mode ABS and TC can be switched completely off?
I might buy this new "Special Desert Edition" they revealed at Brussels Motor Show this week, it is basically an XCx model with a few accessories and a very (very) nice colour scheme. Being an XCx, the "User" or "Rider" mode would not be available. Can you tell if it is possible to customize the riding modes on an XCx model? Or has anything been upgraded in there since this video?
Again, very helpful, thank you very much!
You can switch off traction control and ABS independent of the rider modes as a separate choice, it will reset though on power off. The 2018/19/20 model are all the same, no change so far. Even without the "Rider" mode you can still customise settings within the others. E.g. in RAIN mode you could leave the ABS and Traction as is but put the throttle response to "Road". That might be useful say on a long straight motorway/freeway type road in the wet where you want max support from ABS and Traction but full engine power for overtaking in the knowledge you are on a straight road and the bike is always upright. RAIN mode acceleration is quite muted and it has caught me out a couple of times (on fast roads), hence the suggestion. I do use RAIN mode a lot though and like it on the smaller curvy stuff. I think the XCx is the best value bike, Desert Edition sounds nice. Only buy the bike if you can totally flat foot it, if not consider the XRx low version.
@@terenceokeeffesmotorcyclestuff I'm tall enough for the bike, no worries. Thank you for the answers, very informative.
@@ambydupuis - excellent, well enjoy if you purchase! I shall have a two year review of my ownership up in a couple of days time.
Is this for sale in triumph Dublin at the moment?? Pretty sure I just bought it 😂😂😂
I did sell it but that was back in November last year. It ended up in a dealer further south if I remember correctly. It might of found its way back to Dublin Triumph.
top video !!!
Knobilein - ooh ta!
Hi Terry, I love the rider mode set up for parking where the bike lowers at the rear. I would like to have a different TFT display for this mode to remind me that I have altered the set up. The TFT seems to reset to my default on start up, is there a way to keep a different screen to rider mode permanently? I have sport mode set this way and it operates fine.
Thanks
Hi Tony, I don’t see anyway of choosing which screen gets associated with a particular rider mode other than what Triumph selects. You can obviously disassociate riders modes from screen choice but not actually associate them. I would have a play and investigate more but unfortunately I am waiting ona replacement switch cube from Triumph. You could set ABS to off-road and then the ABS warning would remind you but then you wouldn’t be able to change rider modes on the fly.
@@terenceokeeffesmotorcyclestuff thanks for the reply. Its strange that they allow you to choose a different display for sport,but not rider.
good video, I have a 2020 desert edition, I love the bike but... One thing that annoys me is the inability to set at low contrast and keep it there. I find it hard to see the high contrast when the sun is high and behind me. It only gives high and auto. I have a scrambler xc also and you can switch between three modes, low, high and auto. Does anyone know a solution to this?
See if this sorts you out? Fantastic looking bike in the Desert Edition, congrats. www.tiger-explorer.com/index.php/topic,18876.msg221141.html#msg221141
@@terenceokeeffesmotorcyclestuff nice one! Ill give that a try.
And still,no navigation?
Not enough space on this display for Navigation and I'm not sure they can legally switch out the speedo completely for full Nav. I have a separate Sat Nav but Triumph did drop the ball on this 2018 model with no factory high mount point above the clocks which was on Gen 1 and 2 models. I crafted my own instead.
Stop Press - the new Triumph 1200 Scrambler has a "turn by turn" sat Nav from google maps as an option. Triumph have confirmed that this bluetooth add-on will be available as an upgrade to the TFT equipped Tiger 1200's (and other TFT equiped Triumphs) in 2019. So, not a full Sat Nav but something many might find good enough.