Will the Geico Orange County Chopper Ever Run Right? (Unfixable)
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Sean from @BikesandBeards wants to road trip this thing. So I get to fulfill my dream of wrenching on an OCC bike. Was it worth it?
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Funny commercial, lol!
Is that an orange Puch Maxi S i see in the background?
We love fishing....is one of the players actually you?? The Bearded Fisherman......
How many of those injectors are FAKE - just for looks?
"These things were built on broken chairs" was a great line
The broken chairs lean better
When you wanna just sit down and cry but....
That should be a tee shirt slogan in the OCC merchandise shop 🤣
A collection of trashy un rideable bikes across the country is your legacy...wow.😢
Sean literally had the guy who originally worked on/tuned the bike walk up to him when it was delivered. The guy even offered to buy it and/or work on it and Sean said "thanks but I'm taking it to my guy who has never seen it before." We never heard anything about that guy after that. Craig can do wonders but Sean had THE guy within the first 10 minutes of the bike being delivered to his facilities and said nope.
that guy probably didnt have anything to offer the channel unlike the WLA/Wheels through time collab. Less chairs would have been lost.
Considering the bike doesn’t run and never had ran the guy who built it may not be the best choice now would he ? He basically pooped his pants and you wanna feed him more ice cream
@@earljohnson2676 it's basically the old adage about whether you ask the guy who put the bus in the ditch to get it back out.
@@earljohnson2676 Except it did run and the guy even showed Sean videos of him riding it. He was literally one of the only people who ever rode it. Then it sat for years. The guy knew everything about the ridiculous mechanics of the supercharger and tune of the bike so yeah he would be the best choice. He didn't build it--OCC did. The bike went to the guy to actually get it running. Not sure why people are commenting when they clearly don't even know the backstory.
Because its the innerweb filled with morons
I'm an old disabled gearhead (78) and I watch videos like this for the repartee of the fellows working together. This mechanic here reminds me of my dear friend Dave Stewart and the thousands of hours we spent together. Thank you. Ya couldn't buy me a better gift with $10,000.
I'm happy that you get that much out of watching this channel, sounds like you lived a pretty good life if you got to work on cars with a good friend
A friend and myself painted the Mrs. Geico boat a few times. We saw this bike while down in Florida at the boating facility, buffing and putting the final touches on the boat. I was told then that someone had been allowed to drive the bike, ran it out of fuel and put regular pump gas in it. The engine overheated and he had to be towed back to the shop. That was back in 2019. So that bike was screwed up long before your friend got it. My buddy actually has 2 of the Mrs. Geico watches also. It was part of the deal for us painting the boat.
Craig thanks for working my bike I need it in tip Top shape, I got big things planned for it
Could you maybe, put it in boxes, several boxes, and ship those boxes separately to the far corners of the earth so nobody ever recreates this abomination again?
I would see what kind of return policy orange county has😂😂😂
Can't wait for your road trip across the US on that thing. 😁
Faster you lazy dog
@@MegaSockenschussInstead of fuel stops. You will need chiropractor stops.
Dan throwing an OC Choppers tantrum and storming off was Gold!
I could have done without it.
@@hamzab1368 Who hurt you?
@@proudpennsylvaniaman7996baby
@@hamzab1368 (;) must be your time of the month sista
@@hamzab1368well said 👍🏻
None of their bikes were built to run. 😂
I'm pretty sure at something JR even said that hahaha
The caterpillar bike ran and it kicked butt
Facts!
You ain't kidding bro.
@@user-lu2vu5go9c But the show was entertaining. 😂
Hey man, I never really make it through whole videos, I've never ridden or fixed a motorbike in my life and somehow I sat and watched this thing through to the end! Really great stuff, thank you
I have to say how much I love the tone and editing on these videos. No obnoxious music or "HYPE BRO" garbage. Just good entertainment. Feels like I'm watching a show on Discovery or Science channel, back when those channels were actually good.
It take special skill,not many can keep the "flow" even with help of video editor
the cameraman needs to just film and be tottally quiet ,hes attempt at humour falls flat ,just press record and point ,thats it
I was thinking the same thing. I actually enjoyed every bit of this, and most times I am fast forwarding parts of videos. Not this one, I watched all of it. Learned a few tricks and was entertained the whole time. Well done.
Orange County Choppers .Stay away if you're smart even if you think it's a deal .
First time in a long time I've seen _work_ being done on an OCC bike
"If it works, it's improved." Truer words were never spoken.
I actually saw this bike in person. I worked for GEICO, and they brought to my regional office.
The fuel injector on the blower is to cool the blower, and cool the charge. Same reason they run fuel through the blower on top fuel engines.
THAT BLACK SUT OVER THE EXHAUST! TOLD ME ALL I NEED TO KNOW YOUR RUNNING THAT BIKE THE SAME WAY I LOVE MY WOMEN! *RICH AN RETARDED! LOL* *GBYAA!!!!!!!!!!!!*
I'm not mechanically inclined, but basically they're water-cooling the blower with the fuel, correct?
@@WyattWeadge the fuel lowers the air temp. Lower temperature air is more dense. Higher density means you're getting more air for the same amount of compression, so it produces more horsepower.
@@deelowe3 Thanks!
This was exactly the comment I came to look for after hearing him wonder about that injector. Thank you!
The fishing skit was probably the only Sponsor I haven’t skipped over. 😂
I got the game!
I’m downloading it they sold me
It was funny.
I'm getting it jus to support him lmao
that was a great skid... these to are a great team.
8:33 the reason it has that extra injector is because the fuel itself is the lubricant, cooling & the seal for the supercharger
Also cools the intake charge under boost.
Especially on methanol....it will literally build up condensation on the blower.
E85 is a good fuel for that type of setup. Just has to be tuned properly for the fuel you’re running.
@@ryurc3033 Yeah, like those Dragster cars that do not have an actual cooling system for their engines. The super chargers actually get freezing cold and even build up ice on those cars. Awesome physics at work there.
So glad I found this channel. Your calm confident yet humble demeanor is a fresh take on YT mechanics. No annoying “hey guys” or rock interludes.
Same here. I was so sick of Rich Rebuilds. That channel turned to crap after he ghosted Stevon.
"I remember being in college, watching you build this bike, like this is cool. Now I'm getting to work on the bike like this is cool" quote of the century 😎 I love you so much buddy
The third injector should be acting as intake charge cooling, roots put out a ton of heat so the most efficient cooling method is usually pre-charge injection.
Makes me wonder what kind of fuel it's supposed to run
@@shouldabeenaborted I think it supposed to run race gas
Edit: watching the Bikes and Beard video again, it was tuned on VP Racing C16 leaded race gas.
@@littlewicky1 yeah I spoke too soon. I just saw the end of this video and saw him use the race gas.
Good description of why the 3rd injector
Toyota used to sell a TRD supercharger kit for the 5VZFE V6 that included a 7th injector.
The Geico bike reminds me of as a kid designing a bike with 1,000hp engine, that can fly into space and submerges in the ocean to chase villains and it carries rockets it's also hardened against bullet's. But as an adult and an engineer you ask your self" how was i going to make this work again?" 🤔 Your video brought back memories thanks....
With the bottomless chest known to us plebeians as the US Defense Budget, that's how.
"Carbon Nano-Tubes" That's how!
@@Hybris51129 Unlimited US Defense Budget + Carbon Nano-Tubes = *UNLIMITED POWAH!!!!!!*
You should apply at Orange County , they build dreams ....or nightmares 😂
@@RS-Amsterdam Yep. Reality was never part of their game plan.
Way more fun watching you guys trying to sort this thing out than it was watching the OCC cake decorators build it. Love your new content-keep it up fellas!!😊
Nvr owned a bike but I learned how to problem solve from patient and persistent guys,so can relate to the nvr say die approach.Pleasure to watch 👏🏻
That thing is a death trap with zero comfort to take you there!!!!
Craig however is a living LEGEND! 👊🏻
What are you talking about? You can just outrun danger with all that OCC style and POWER!
@@volvo09 🤣🤣🤣🤣
So, pretty much like everything OCC ever built.
yep, the first thing i would do is hot glue 2 inches of foam polstery seat thingy on that bike. my intervertebral discs are popping just looking at that thing
@@breakshot7451 It's clearly not mine or your thing, in fact for me, it's ugly as **** and about as practical as a chocolate teapot!
Love motor bikes but that thing is just a status/idiot symbol! Peace 👊🏻
Loved the occ style argument and storm off had by two of the least aggressive guys on the planet 😂😂 this has been my favourite bearded mechanic so far. Keep it up guys
Why didn’t they just have the others starter fixed at the starter shop. Then you got the right part . Now it’s a piece that really doesn’t fit .
@@waynevictory5208 Because its not bigger.
This was awesome. I am not much of a Bike guy, but its nice to see all of the BS that OCC was and someone going in and fixing it with a real attention to detail. Good work.
You guys have a Huge amount of patience. I am not a wrench turner for all the very reasons you ran into. My hats off to you. I am interested is seeing your final results.
Craig: it doesn't have to go to a starter shop to switch that button. That five-sided section is literally the starter solenoid. All that button does is push directly on the solenoid plunger, bypassing the electromagnet that would usually thrust it forward. Stick the output shaft into a hole in your bench or simply open the jaws on a bench vise, letting the shaft extend while supporting the starter with that cover pointing straight up. That part is important until you know how those things Nippon Denso starters are built. Keeping it cap-up prevents you from loosing a ball bearing and one (possibly two) springs. Remove the screws from the corner of the cap, holding slight pressure to the cap (spring, remember?). Lift the cap and remove. Install the new cap. This is literally a three-minute panel swap.
While you have the starter solenoid open, inspect the two contacts (the two weird-shaped copper contacts) for pitting and scarring; polish if necessary) and the contact disk mounted around the plunger (again, polish if necessary). The only failures for Nippon Denso starters are these contacts and eventually wearing out the brushes. Things are immortal. In fact, you could probably polish the armature and commutator in the "bad" one, slap in a new brush rack, and your grandkids will be passing it on to their own kids.
Yup. These things have been around forever. If you're old school like me, there's even a little lever version for the solenoid on shovels. Or go really old old school and use a bent hacksaw blade.
Had to put one on my neighbors evo fatboy. We changed out the over riding starter clutch. But he pulled an occ move & tried to install the starter with a rubber mallet. Tore the terminal off the starter. Good thing i had a manual over ride kit. Now he gets to reach his thumb around a hot exhaust pipe to start it.
“Stare at the elbows” Damn Craig teaching me about bikes and life. Lots of respect from Canada !
Still it's great to see you work things out exactly like I was taught to do. I enjoyed the video very much. Thanks Again looking forward to the rest on this bike.
Man, I'm so invested in the story and progression of this bike. I need the next episode!!
From watching the show as a kid to now seeing this guy take his time to be a better craftsman in his airtight shop in PA then any of the tuttles ever did is pretty neat. Dude aint affraid to murder his hands to make sure its done right
You know that saying "never meet your heroes" I think that it also applies to owning an OOC bike especially a custom one that was never designed to be a daily rider.
Jason Poole is probably guilty of this contraption. WHY, would they hire a guy, who knows ZERO about motorcycles, to design motorcycles? Unbelievable.
Another one to one scale model. Like most show cars built today.
This is great! I love how your agony is followed by solutions at each step!
34.04.... it's alive. You 2 are the best together on this video. This is my first video on your channel. Thanks for your beautiful mind. I don't know anything about motorcycles, but you remind me of why it's fun watching you tinker with it. Your step by step back and forth with how all components work is exciting. DAN, the camera person is perfect co-play.😊 Take care. It was like I'm there. I want to throw that chair also. 😂
That starter button is a simple install, I have one on my 1340 EVO has been on there for 20 years. It just replaces the cover. We used to just drill a hole in the cover and drive a screwdriver in it to start if a bike had wiring issues, or steal them.
So, you admit to being a bike thief. Got it.
@@micksterboone4517 yup. No one knows who he is. Or if hes telling the truth. So yup.
Its not that easy. On top of the starter is a solenoid. By pushing it the startes runs. But without ignition the engine will not start ;-)
@@chrisridethatbloodything2044 Eh thats nothing that twisting afew wires together woundnt solve ;) .
@@chrisridethatbloodything2044 Tape a quarter to the back of the old small key switches and that's a solved problem. My bro got home that way after losing his key in the bushes
while romancing sum yung tang. He also go poison sumac. It was a run to remember.
The third injector is likely for two reasons;
1. They used smaller injectors on the heads to get good drivability and fuel control and the third injector for additional fuel under boost.
2. Being pre supercharger it acts as an air cooling agent when injected into the roots/screws due to the absence of a cooler.
Hey Craig! I love your videos! I’m watching all the way up here in Edmonton Alberta. Your production quality has become so much more polished since the first few, the educational and entertainment value has steadily increased! I can’t wait to see more.
3:22 had me gigglin, the cherry blossoms are a great touch
20:46 the throw down throw back was amazing. That brought back core memories from both watching the show and living with fighting parents in real time lol 😂
Nothing like tuning into tv with nothing but families fighting to avoid your family currently fighting. Truly American
HAHAHAHAHAHA yeah man, my dad used to get coked up/drunk, beat tf out of me n my mom with paul jr and sr manbabying in the background. classic american quality family time
"We're running out of chairs!" 😂
this geico bike came up in my feed with the other guy, and now i'm on the edge of my seat wondering if it'll ever be roadtrip worthy! Good job, and good luck!
You sir are one of the best mechanics I've ever seen !! Great job !
34:08 put some valve lapping compound on that blower belt, and you can use it to sharpen your kitchen knives. That chopper has some use after all 😂
World's thirstiest linisher . . . : )
This whole video EXACTLY confirms every word Jay Leno said about OCC bikes. I thought he was just exaggerating. I had no idea he was spot on.
Yep. They keep fiddling with stuff to try and get it running as it is. First thing they really should do is pull the engine and rebuild it with lower compression and a better setup for the supercharger. Doubtful it’d make the power that was sometimes claimed, but would at least make it not need race fuel to barely work.
Junk that's why what was 250k to be built can be bought for less than 10k
@@keithbelz2952 yeah they're definitely not 6 figure bikes, but the buyers of OCC bikes aren't really buying a bike for 6 figures. They were buying a marketing opportunity to be highlighted on the show, and the bike is essentially like a gift bag that they can take with them and display at their offices.
These bikes aren't built for riders, and they're not really the product either.
@@NotasisayThat's the most succinct description of what was going on I've ever heard. Well said man
@@Notasisay Hit the Nail on the Head with that Friend. 👍🏼 👌🏼
You pretty muched summed up the "Truth" of the matter in a few sentences. It would of taken me a wall of never-ending text to point out all the stuff.
Awesome 👍
You are like the Bob Ross of Motorcycle Mechanics.
Years ago I worked in a Yamaha Sales & Service Shop. We had a great Mechanic. Very calm, and methodical. He could figure out how to get anything running. Everything but computer gack. He just cut it out completely and worked around it. Would say, "I'm a mechanic, not a computer scientist." Sometimes, he would get frustrsted and then it was time for a break. But he loved the challenge, and never gave up, unless the client decided it was not worth his money.
It was fun. I learned a lot. Anyways, brings me back to time in life I enjoyed.
Good work. ✌
This channel is the best! These videos make my problems in life seem very minor. Love that you guys make it fun
A 300hp bike with no rear suspension and a front disc that might be 6". What could go wrong?
Nothing, that bike is as safe as that huge exposed belt wobbling near the rider's knee!
I had a bigger disc on my mountain bike!😂
I find it ironic and funny that this death trap was built for an insurance company
@@JayMalone26 So. You don't understand that it was simply a photo op, and never designed to be driven. Neat.
@@ejlarson249 So. What was the point of using and engine & tranmission w/ internals, terrible wiring, delivered w/ fluids and so it can barley start? Neat.
I would love to see Travis Pastrana on the channel.
In the mean time Craig can pretend to be Travis Pastrami! 😆
@channel199official invite this gem of a human being and teach him to do a backflip
@@kimbeer1544 On the chopper.
Curious!
From a biker here in Tokyo Japan.
Our Rock band is called " Three Threads"
Just watched the other two videos.
Rock on brothers 🤟
the segue to the fishing game ad was **
OK ...I give in. This made me subscribe. I remember watching the series when this bike was made, and this was more entertaining than the original build by far. Chair throwing was done with much more style, and we even got a door slam.
Everybody needs a Craig!
Yes a Craig not a Cregg
This was the first video I saw of this channel - you guys are fantastic. Subscribed.
That ad transition & ad all together was so damn good it’s almost my favorite part! 🤣👍 Good show, good show.
Craig, you are a gem! Your skill level and passion for motorcycles is unmatched by anything else on UA-cam! Thank you for continually educating the motorcycle community!
Thank God he has a friend like you with a brain, he has the money you have the brains to fix the bikes! 😂 keep up the great content. Love from the UK 🇬🇧❤
I could totally work for these guys. this shop seems like an enjoyable place to work. great personalities.
OMG, watching you figure this bike out is super cool. The fishing clash ad is next level awesome. Nice work! 😂
13:56 Adjustable throttle position sensors like that usually have metal sleeves in the adjustment holes so that when you are tightening down the bolts it gives it something to clamp to instead of just the compressible plastic. I imagine that is why it keeps moving.
The Miss Geico turbine boats were incredible engineering and performing marvels, it's kind of sacrilegious to build a pos like that and have it tied to the Miss Geico name in any way. If the Miss Geico race team had built this bike, it would go 200+ mph, and not be a living room ornament.
I'm not even into motorcycles or working on motor vehicles, but somehow I've gotten sucked into the Miss Geico bike videos (first on BikesandBeards now here) and can't wait to see where it goes next!
First time watching one of your kids and I saw you throw that chair. I thought "WOW!!! WWHHAT A DOUSCHE!!! I bet his wife feels safe and kids just love being in his presence..." then I made the connection with Paullie SR. Super funny man subscribed!
Best part of the weekend is here! Only channel where I press like on the videos just as they start 😊
“We’re running out of chairs” 😂😂 that was very funny. You need to do a T shirt with that on! 😂
Been watching with interest and so far, THIS is the guy I want to work on my bike!
Absolutely great show guys best new show i have found and watched for a long long time well done lads
Working on an OCC bike is like polishing a turd. That fish tape gag during the sponsor was hilarious though.
How many occ bikes have you worked on or owned?
They were only ever about style. Any sort of function was optional - if you got lucky.
@@davidelliott5843Single gallon tanks mean you can stop more often to socialize.
@@bryanfowler2039 OCC has been getting called out and exposed publically for making expensive garbage for decades now.
@@illbeyourmonster3591 you’re just mad you couldn’t afford one js
The injector on the super charger. My guess from having built a couple supercharged projects. Engine runs normally on the injectors in the engine. The injector in the supercharger adds the needed extra fueling for conditions when the engine is getting boost. Probably regulated by a built in map sensor. Bolt on..... no tuning required to the engine fueling.
I'm guessing Craig never had a vehicle with a hpfp
This one here Craig. We use them with the jb4 tuner on my cars twin turbo platform.
I'm guessing that is the case too, especially if it's bolt on. Rather than tune and size the primary injectors, just leave the stock ones in and have a separate one for boost.
Seeing how it's blowing black smoke they definitely didn't know how to tune it in the first place!
I remember them saying they used nitromethane or sth like this. Even ethanol or methanol need extra injectors to compensate for energy density. Similar to a carbs powerjet
Would a fuel injector on the superchrager also help cool the charge air and increase the charge density as the fuel evaporates? That might be an unintended consequential bonus rather that a primary design consideration
Lots of geckos bark and vocalize! That's where their name came from. Some will even "scream" lol. Gotta love em. Good bug control too.
11:52 a Nice Clockwise Swirl will kick it out with a shake of a leg!!!😂
The bigger always means bigger skit was pure magic, had literal flash backs to watching OCC!!
Perfect spoof of Paul senior
This dude is actually amazing at working on bikes. Takes a whole next level of skill to work on a Frankenstein style bike. Awesome job Craig. You're brilliant.
Grate episode the Segway to fishing app was so funny I now have plastic law chairs for stress relief at work as a motor mechanic good work
This was a great video. Showing what works and what doesn't is real good video. Looking forward to dyno testing.
How did I not know about this fuel injector tool!! I have been saying for years something like this need to be made! Thank you Craig I would have never found out about it had you not shown it.
Yeah, I'm going to have to find this one. They make expensive 4 or more injector cycle/clean systems but this one is pretty simple. I made a setup of my own to cycle the injector and spray cleaner but it's a pain to swap injectors and the cleaner spray tube wants to pop out of the rubber hose it's feeding into.
The “ preparation H “on a toothbrush had me absolutely in tears, Guys! Absolutely love your banter and brings back memories of me and my dad working on street rods in Long branch New Jersey, back in the day. If you ever do get up that way Asbury Park has reopened “the Circuit“and I am sure your eyes would be popping out of your head with some of the bikes and rods that cruise Asbury Park. Blessings guys!
If you spend enough time, and money, everything will run right. Even if it might mean to replace the engine with one that might simply work better as a supercharged motorcycle engine.
The question is: Is it worth that to the person(s) in charge?
I love the dedication you all put into it. If I took that to a motorcycle shop nearby they would tell me to leave and take the bike with me and never show up again. 😂
At least my car mechanic is a passionate guy that I trust and take my care to if I have issues that require a lift or special tools and he always explains exactly what he did to solve it and I simply love that. It's not just: "Here you got your car back, that's xxx dollars please." - it's a real interaction and both of us are thankfull for each other - me for him fixing things I could not do on my own, and him for me paying him so he can feed his family. 🙌
Great job with the little skits. I felt like I was 19 again 😂
It's hilarious to me to see a bike from OCC being repaired after it really wasn't driven. We look about the same age cause I too remember the original American Chopper Discovery shows. Built for show and not go, I am not surprised in the slightest and kinda always knew that I think.
I recently rebuilt my cv carb for my sportster, and in the past I’d never touch a carburetor cause as far as I knew it was magic. You and your channel gave me the confidence to tackle something like that and it runs amazing now!
Congrats your new found confidence has paid you dividends. Go forth and try more things you'll be amazed what a bit of confidence and observation can have get done
What's remarkable is Paul Sr. was a-okay with bikes like this rolling -- literally -- out of his shop.
A pretty good friend of mine claimed that he was familiar with Paul Sr. before he was a TV star. My buddy was an old nomad, so I had no reason to doubt him. Never had a good word to say about Paul Sr. .
Dope!!
Craig, I wish you were here in my country man hahah
You brought me flash backs of troubleshooting the battery, cables and starter on my chopper while throwing sparks every time I grounded my wrench while connecting the positive terminal on the starter. I will say watching is so much more enjoyable than fighting with it in person. On the other hand there is no other feeling like hearing that big twin crank over when you get it all right!
I normally just skip over promo's but your humor has captivated me 0.0 It's also nice to see some deep dives and corrective work being taken on these old OCC bikes. Good stuff dudes!
The barking gecko killed me! 🤣
learned a lot from this .. kudos. great editing. 💪
I know nothing about motorcycles, and this is one of my most favorite UA-cam channels
and here I was, thinking that Craig has a patience of an angel and doesn't get frustrated at all.
This means that GEICO bike is just that much frustrating that it made Craig angry.
First time ive enjoyed a commercial in a clip. Nice work boys, very funny.
Enjoyed the whole process. Thanks!
I loved the Bill Engvall dork fish joke reference in the fishing game segment "what's a corn dog doin' in the ocean?" 😂😂
You mean Bill dance right lol? Engvall is a stand up comic
@@Strick.410 No! During the ad for the fishing game he referred to the dork fish and the other guy was baiting his hook with a corn dog. The stand up comedian Bill Engvall does a bit about a dork fish and that to catch one you probably use corn dogs.
@@justinplaia1901😂 omg I remember that bit
@@justinplaia1901 ohh okay. Never heard that bit. Your talking about the "heres your sign " guy right
@@Strick.410yep! Bills the Sign guy.
You are one great mechanic sir. Good job. And god bless you and your family.
It's running better than when Sean had it driving.
the OCC satire was spot on! 😄👍
I suppose it's a love of tradition for a lot of people. Not every purchase has to make logical sense. Having the peace of mind that what you bought is what you want makes some purchases worth it.
Just had to stop the video to say these two working together are gold 😅 thanks guys from a lifetime time subscriber 👍
I loved the throw back to Bill Engvalls "Dork Fish" joke with the corn dog! 😂 Comedy gold
11:03 rage quit . Also the "These things were built on broken chairs" quote was a great one
Dude your a mad scientist I’m lucky to know one near by😂awesome job
@20:30: 😂 It was like I was watching an episode of OCC. Great Sr. & Jr. impersonation 🤣🤣🤣
"Man, it'd be so awesome to work on one of those bikes. *raspberry*. " That killed me. Love the video!
The fishing transition was Fantastically done!