Can I Fix This Unfixable Chopper ?

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  • @crebbsjd
    @crebbsjd Рік тому +4

    Definitely, did all the right things. Just have to keep checking, replacing, and going through everything. I am guessing the 24-volt heavy equipment fiasco fried other things. Coil forsure. Hopefully, it's not to much more, but it definitely burned and destroyed more than usual. You can do it, Craig!!! I'm looking forward to this big dog up and running.

  • @sharplessguy
    @sharplessguy Рік тому +121

    I am/was the go to guy when no one else could fix stuff. But I finally retired after suffering a stroke... In my 45+ years of fixing "stuff" I discovered that there were days that no matter what I did or tried that nothing was going to work and that if I stopped fighting it for a day and came back fresh I could almost always figure it out the next day with much less frustration. I rarely get pissed off because I know that whatever it is that I am working on has no feelings or agenda.... it's never personal and getting angry isn't going to make things easier. My point is that one of the best tools in your toolbox is the one in your head that tells you when to take a break and come back later fresh. It works every time

    • @CanadianDerwood
      @CanadianDerwood Рік тому +6

      ^^^^^ pure wisdom! Beautifully said my friend!
      Not only as a mechanic myself, I do this a lot at work. Also, it's a great life lesson, too..
      Thank you for sharing such a treasure..

    • @22sojourner
      @22sojourner Рік тому +5

      As a young millwright, we hit a snag. The old guy said, "Let's take a break, & don't think about the problem; let's talk about other stuff.
      Refreshed, & back on the job, & it was like it fell together; I was amazed.

    • @leximatic
      @leximatic 7 місяців тому +2

      I heard it several times, when i was young. "If your are stuck, go away, leave it there, do something different, come back later." Of course i ran into many things, like everyone. I still wonder why it works, but it helps every time.

    • @andrewporrelli8268
      @andrewporrelli8268 5 місяців тому

      Never a truer word spoken! I tip my hat to you, sir!! I am same as you.
      Methodic Fault finding is the key.

    • @Swampyssidehustlehobbyshop
      @Swampyssidehustlehobbyshop 5 місяців тому

      Generator engines with magnetos batteries were optional lol.

  • @l1qu1dm3t4lIV
    @l1qu1dm3t4lIV Рік тому +4

    You'll get it, Craig
    Waiting on parts really can put a kink in things

  • @elmaestro6106
    @elmaestro6106 Рік тому

    She may not start yet, but she looks beautiful! The Chopper was cool. Good ol days.

  • @im_your_huckleberry8474
    @im_your_huckleberry8474 5 місяців тому

    Everybody needs a Craig...even when he can't get it done. We still love you Craig

  • @toyotaguy1984
    @toyotaguy1984 Рік тому +1

    I'm so glad you started your own channel. Was worried when Shawn was moving that there wouldn't be any more Craig (and Dan 🙄🤣) keep up the great work!

  • @Ghostchocobo
    @Ghostchocobo Рік тому

    Pretty brave of you for sure. Kinda like doing your own work on a Sunday. I love your channel

  • @clintferguson8328
    @clintferguson8328 Рік тому

    I love the paint job on the bike, great video keep up the great work sir.

  • @glitch-pr3nr
    @glitch-pr3nr 11 місяців тому

    Patience happens, yeah, you seem to be the miracle worker guy😅

  • @gumbomudderx7503
    @gumbomudderx7503 Рік тому

    I know these bikes are impractical and not very popular anymore, but I just love these things. I’m kinda glad their value went down so I can afford one lol

  • @claytonselfridge7518
    @claytonselfridge7518 Рік тому

    glad your doing your own channel good luck im a mechanic too i also never give up lol

  • @michaelthoele1625
    @michaelthoele1625 Рік тому

    You got a lot of patience man. I’d be cussing up a storm.😂😂

  • @toddwilliams5905
    @toddwilliams5905 Рік тому

    That simple jump start attempt was a big help.../S

  • @ee-mon-ee1653
    @ee-mon-ee1653 Рік тому

    My first thought when you said nobody would work on it was wiring...😂 Shops hate working on other ppls bees nests..

  • @danburque7555
    @danburque7555 11 місяців тому

    I have solved mystery electronic problems on Harley Davidson inside the headlight bucket with wires pulling out of connector. 😊

  • @raulsscano
    @raulsscano 11 місяців тому

    Wow your right they were way over priced.. I just got my Night train up and running same thing cranks didn't start after doing work on it.

  • @hussienabukhalil2012
    @hussienabukhalil2012 Рік тому

    Really nice vedio Big thanks Big 👍 😊

  • @mc2594
    @mc2594 Рік тому

    looks to me like the starting problem (whatever it is) has caused the continuous cranking issues (which you've fixed) so although it sounds obvious you're back to the original issue. From the back firing and explosive bangs i'd say the ignition timing needs checking, if ok the compression needs checking, if ok the valves and lifters need checking. I'd speak to the owner and ask him how it went from running to not starting, there might be some clue there, there might not. Thank me later, nice work on the electrics btw.

  • @Workerbee-zy5nx
    @Workerbee-zy5nx Рік тому

    Brave soul. Electrics are a nightmare on any vehicle.

  • @davessparetime83
    @davessparetime83 Рік тому +4

    This is the difference from repair shops and service shops. It's funny that repair shops can turn away customers, but cake makers and waxing shops can't turn away customers.

  • @mrutherford8590
    @mrutherford8590 Рік тому

    They might have shorted out the charging system also. Check fuses

  • @samuelmontgomery3882
    @samuelmontgomery3882 9 місяців тому

    One bike, one problem (won’t start), one fix, one bill. “One million Dollars!”And now they want us all to buy electric cars and bikes?

  • @paultrombetta
    @paultrombetta 11 місяців тому

    I feel your pain

  • @turtlenator97
    @turtlenator97 28 днів тому

    16:19 Bless You

  • @philliprfarrarjr6981
    @philliprfarrarjr6981 Рік тому

    I hate electrical problems! They can be devastating to your mental health! Lol

  • @markj5848
    @markj5848 Рік тому

    firing order wrong or you wired the starter motor backwards with the new loom

  • @denisgiguere1600
    @denisgiguere1600 9 місяців тому

    Boost it with a 24 volt booster pack and start your research where the smoke come from .

  • @roadkingrider6532
    @roadkingrider6532 Рік тому +326

    Man, much respect for even taking on a project like that!

    • @speedtriprr537
      @speedtriprr537 Рік тому +7

      Agree, I wouldn’t want to be seen with a bike like that in my shop

    • @Ddude87
      @Ddude87 Рік тому +3

      That's a project in itself

    • @bobmumphy3548
      @bobmumphy3548 Рік тому +1

      No wonder they went under

    • @gullreefclub
      @gullreefclub Рік тому +3

      Why this is not a hard job other than it takes a bit of brain power. Unfortunately in my 40 years of being a mechanic working on everything from heavy equipment, road tractors, dump trucks, light trucks, cars, and motorcycles (admittedly only Harley Davison’s, vintage English bikes) have found the majority of mechanics don’t take the time and or don’t have the skills to properly diagnose/troubleshoot all but the simplest of problems.
      Side note the “thin wires” Graig was referring to are mil-spec wires and use ultra thin strands (but more of them) and high temp insulation, the advantage to this type of wire is it can carry more current and amps in a smaller overall package which of course comes with a higher cost per foot but if you are building a custom bike with very sanitary routing (hidden) wiring etc this type of wiring is worth it’s wait in gold.
      Side notes when repairing a vehicle that has had someone trying to jumpstart start it with 24 volts and burnt wiring and control module it is almost a sure bet that the coil has been damaged this sort of damage can be avoided if proper fusing/use of relays is incorporated into the design of the wiring harness for the vehicle/motorcycle

    • @IndigenousSteed
      @IndigenousSteed Рік тому +1

      Haha thunderheart!!
      The shop Rebuilding my bike is a Big dog authorized repair center. Creativecycles Umatilla FL

  • @Dodger2879
    @Dodger2879 Рік тому +183

    I'm a retired electrical engineer, but lived for problems like this on ships and other marine vessels! For a sideline, I fixed motorcycles. You are so right, you cannot possibly hand a customer an invoice for your time, or learning. So....I found that it pays not to look at all the pretty colors. Just take one circuit at a time and "think" as if you were "speaking" to a newbie, teaching him how to do it. This prevents your residual confidence and old habits coming into play. NEVER discount a male/female pin *inside* a plug or
    socket being pushed back! (Murphy loves throwing that trick into the ring!).
    My greatest "find" was a dead fruit fly inside a plastic encased relay, back in 2002. One dab of Isopropyl Alcohol and one Q-Tip later, and a $6M Dutch luxury Sports Fisherman could use its bow thruster once more.
    Cost: 4 hours labor plus 1 Q-Tip 😉.
    Every success. It appears to be a 6 cup problem.

    • @wannaseethevid
      @wannaseethevid Рік тому +5

      top story man!

    • @anonimous2451
      @anonimous2451 Рік тому +4

      Would have LOVED to see that bill being handed to the owner, with a giant shieet eatin grin on your face......... "$12,000, WTF man you were here for 4 hours. " It not the time its the KNOWLEDGE you are paying for SIR. GIANT SMILE !!!😁😁😁😁

    • @Dodger2879
      @Dodger2879 Рік тому +21

      @@anonimous2451
      The owner was a very wealthy man. He owned many aircraft also, including many WWII "warbirds" and his own G5.
      He paid me super quick ($400 + a $100 tip! No tax, as no parts used!), then asked if I ever got to take time off. I replied that I did not. So; I went back to the home port onboard the boat with the captain and one crew member, at his invitation and he flew off somewhere else.
      I stayed on the boat for 5 days (alone and very impressed, as it was a Dutch built Feadship) at his private boat dockage in Fort Lauderdale, drank Bombay and chased women at The Bimini Boatyard!....as a, "thanks for not ripping me off, as they usually try to". He even paid for my return flight home!
      The captain and his wife and I stayed in touch afterwards. I got a much needed break and he paid for me to return and consult on something else, about 2 years later.
      Pure respect both ways and an unexpected win-win, due to honesty.
      Damn! I could have got used to that!

    • @anonimous2451
      @anonimous2451 Рік тому +4

      @@Dodger2879 Dayum dude, 400 bucks? Honesty pays for itself my man and MAD RESPECT for doing that.

    • @PawAshtraysMatter
      @PawAshtraysMatter Рік тому +1

      I've been helping a friend and his girl gut and remodel interior of rv. It is insane how much random(to me lol) wiring is all over the damn thing. I couldn't fathom some ship w miles of cable

  • @ian7061
    @ian7061 Рік тому +220

    You weren't stupid to take it on, you're smart enough to take it on. Can't wait for the sequel !
    You went from sliding downhill on a two stroke yamazuki to a rigid puzzle like that mate I take my hat off to you! Loving these vids😏

    • @loganmurphy2195
      @loganmurphy2195 Рік тому +6

      Agreed!

    • @RT22-pb2pp
      @RT22-pb2pp Рік тому +2

      stupid taking on a bike that has almost no real after market. Had buddies who were into choppers expensive ones, only person that makes money on them is builder in original sale, after that worth pennies on the dollar. No one wants someone elses dream bike unless they had same dream.

    • @robertmason8341
      @robertmason8341 Рік тому +2

      I do this work everyday (motorcycle shop) so I feel ya. As a side note, I work on Harley’s almost everyday and have never heard a Harley motor (or Harley clone motor) crank over so fast. Even with no plugs in it they don’t quite sound like that one did. What starter is on that bike? I’d seriously like to know as I build some dragrace Harley motors with big cubes and often stock starters aren’t up for it. Does the bike possibly have a 16 volt racing battery or something making it spin so fast? Sometimes on out big bore hayabusa drag bikes we set them up with an extra battery wired in series only to the starter and feed it 24 volts to make it spin super fast and start it otherwise they can break the starter clutch or idler gear/boss in the crankcase. Before someone comments that’s it’s impossible that it would fry all the electronics on the bike, re-read where i said it only feeds 24 volts to the starter motor. I can explain how exactly you accomplish this if anyone is interested.
      But anyway, that thing spun really fast for a Harley. Almost sounded like the cam timing was off and it wasn’t compressing right. Usually Harley (big twins at least, don’t have much experience with the smaller ones) you can actually hear every stroke of the engine during starting as it noticeablely slows on compression stroke right before it lights off!

    • @tpatchie
      @tpatchie 6 місяців тому

      Exactly

  • @eclipsegod4g63
    @eclipsegod4g63 Рік тому +364

    I’m showing this video to everyone!! I’m the electrical repair guy in my town and no one understands what it’s like dealing with this stuff and wonder why it cost what it does!! We are the surgeons of the mechanic world craig!!!

    • @AnonyMous-jf4lc
      @AnonyMous-jf4lc Рік тому +10

      It’s not hard. There’s a very significant learning curve moving from being able to figure it out over to efficiently diagnosing and repairing issues. I seek these things out to buy and fix.

    • @RoamingCosmos
      @RoamingCosmos Рік тому +10

      Electrical issues is easy when you just replacing everything,.. but it's a nightmare to troubleshoot and find some faulty wire or components.. I just replacing whole harnesses for something like, I won't even try to find the fried wire..

    • @bluebeard6189
      @bluebeard6189 Рік тому +9

      As an engine mechanic I can say with all confidence electrical work is not hard. It is absolutely tedious and slow going. The main difference between someone that knows what they're doing and that doesn't is a massive amount of time.
      But as I've had people come in with top ends they have rebuilt completely forgetting to put in piston rings, I've seen what happens when someone tries to rush an electrical job and they don't know what they're doing. And I pity you guys. Because every knuckledraggin monkey thinks they can do electrical work, when they won't even take the time to learn how to read a wiring diagram.

    • @AnonyMous-jf4lc
      @AnonyMous-jf4lc Рік тому +3

      @@RoamingCosmos it's only a nightmare to you because you don't know what you are looking for and how to find it. Also, wires just don't fry, so you really need to identify what that would occur in the first place.

    • @AnonyMous-jf4lc
      @AnonyMous-jf4lc Рік тому +3

      @@bluebeard6189 100% correct. It's not hard but you need to spend the time to learn to be fast. Learning exactly how the systems work and understanding circuits at more than a basic level is what is required to be quick.

  • @TheRattyBiker
    @TheRattyBiker Рік тому +38

    😍😍 Both Craig and Sean posted! 🤤 Time to grab a beer and sit and chill! Both guys having seperate channels and posting together is just a pure double bubble bonus for me on a Friday afternoon!!!

    • @Lexx1976
      @Lexx1976 Рік тому +1

      GOVERNMENT WARNING:
      (1) According to the Surgeon General, women should not drink alcohol beverages during pregnancy because of the risk of birth defects.
      (2) Consumption of alcoholic beverages impairs your ability to drive a car or operate machinery, and may cause health problems.

    • @jake6618
      @jake6618 Рік тому +4

      @@Lexx1976what a buzz kill

    • @TheRattyBiker
      @TheRattyBiker Рік тому +5

      @@Lexx1976 I'm English, but to put it in Scottish dialect... "Getti fack ya knob goblin friiiik"

    • @TheRattyBiker
      @TheRattyBiker Рік тому +2

      @@jake6618 👍

    • @sail4free1
      @sail4free1 Рік тому +2

      @@Lexx1976 -- Let me guess . . . single?

  • @1down4upworkshop61
    @1down4upworkshop61 Рік тому +5

    I hate those brass battery spacers ... I lose them all the time when trying to manipulate them with my fat sausage fingers LOL

  • @haugstule
    @haugstule Рік тому +23

    Check the valve timing. stick a zip-tie into the spark plug hole and just make sure it inhales and exhales when it's supposed to in relation to the pistons.
    check the ignition timing, this is what it sounds like with a shared flywheel key.
    you can do it! Just DO It! (Shia Labeouf )

    • @nhbountyhunter
      @nhbountyhunter Рік тому +7

      What he said! My 1st thought when I saw it backfire. Timing!

    • @dodger413
      @dodger413 Рік тому +1

      @@nhbountyhunter
      first thing i thought of was timing too, especially when it did tried to fire and backfired. it's an S&S motor. those people are VERY helpful to S&S motor owners. Pop that evo timing cover off. two screws. see what's in there !

    • @markbeauchamp2053
      @markbeauchamp2053 Рік тому +1

      I'm another mechanic who believes it sounds mostly like a mechanical timing issue.

    • @josephschaekel5293
      @josephschaekel5293 Рік тому

      It's all electrical, I dont believe the carb cleaning affected it much . With that one wire melt I'm surprised any of the light bulbs still worked every thing wiring, and charging probably good a good voltage spike . Along with the ignition coils.

  • @jeremiahsmith700
    @jeremiahsmith700 Рік тому +33

    I'm trying to work through some electrical issues on my brother's bike right now, so I commend you. Electrical is my least favorite issue, so watching the best motorcycle mechanic I can think of get frustrated by it, too, makes me feel better. Good luck, and excited for part 2!

    • @The_Bearded_Mechanic
      @The_Bearded_Mechanic  Рік тому +14

      You can do it!

    • @faryldaryl3975
      @faryldaryl3975 Рік тому +6

      Nobody likes electrical probs, except maybe that glutton for punishment Dodger2879 up there. Now that I'm retired and don't need a vehicle for work, I'm thinking I need to get something like a Model T with zero electrical controls. Maybe get some acetylene headlights.

  • @CAL806
    @CAL806 Рік тому +12

    Hello Craig , nice to see you finally have your own channel🤪 been watching you and Shaun for a good while , keep up the good work loving the videos 🧔🏽‍♂️🤙🏼

  • @brianwinters4991
    @brianwinters4991 Рік тому +6

    I remember the days when choppers were simple , made so you could fix them quickly . Remember the first half of the word custom is cuss .

  • @briw4647
    @briw4647 Рік тому +39

    My brother is a engineer, im a trained joiner, one thing we both know through experience is anything can be fixed, one way or another. Either repair or replace. Just depends how much you want to pay

  • @pootmahgoots8482
    @pootmahgoots8482 Рік тому +51

    Not at all a stupid move to take this on. Anyone can change a tire and do an oil change on a bike. It takes a real mechanic to take on a project like this and you sir, are the realest mechanic out there. Can't wait to hear this bad boy pop off.

    • @bigcconservativeguy2534
      @bigcconservativeguy2534 Рік тому +5

      It has little to do with how skilled you are. It's all about knowing where to start to trace down the issues and how many man hours it will take to get to the source of the problem. Any competenet mechanic will know where to start and then its just a matter of how long it takes to meticulously eliminate all of the possibilities in order until you get the the actual problem and then the BIG ISSUE is whether or not the customer is willing to pay those man hours. Customers have no clue how long it takes to trace these things and seldom do they do anything but freak out at the bill when the bike is fixed and running. No matter how you try to explain it to them they still think you are ripping them off! I will always give them a "worst case scenario" and if they are not ok with the prospect of paying that then I politely show them the door. After all, you are running a business not a charity right!

    • @dingerjunkie
      @dingerjunkie Рік тому +1

      Yeah...and when the bike owner sees the final bill, refuses to pay, hands you a title and leaves you with a bike less than your labor...how does that end? Very stupid move to take this on unless you got a huge service deposit or some other ironclad guarantee of payment beyond worth of the bike.

  • @CanadianDerwood
    @CanadianDerwood Рік тому +19

    Craig, your work ethic and explanation of a mechanic is spot on! As a fellow mechanic, who shares the same drive for good diagnostics and root cause problem solving.
    You bring and show the nobility of this and all trades alike! Bless you and your wonderful, compassionate, and patient family, for without their love and support, you couldn't make such great, honest, and wonderful content.
    Also, your unsung heros behind the camera also deserve praise for their hard work and great contributions to this awesome team..
    Thank you... 😊 🙏

  • @Refirrus
    @Refirrus Рік тому +5

    I think that the timing might be off, so it misfired the starter into oblivion .

  • @oldguysoldbikes
    @oldguysoldbikes Рік тому +9

    When I see an engine firing back through the intake as well as popping in the exhaust. I always start wondering about valves.

    • @obfuscated3090
      @obfuscated3090 Рік тому

      Quite right! We put a compression tester on EVERY bike that came in the shop because what's unmeasured is unknown, and air-cooled top ends on old bikes are prone to issues. I bring a comp gauge when I check out used bikes before purchase.

    • @munter10
      @munter10 Рік тому +1

      I noticed the speed of the cranking is really fast compared to any Harley I’ve ever heard turning over on the starter motor.
      It’s either bent valves ( mistimed and valves collided with pistons) or frozen rings, or, it’s bore washed with fuel and no oil sealing at the rings.
      My 2 cents…. I’ve been a mechanic for 40 years and I pick up on these symptoms pretty quick.

    • @spongbob18
      @spongbob18 Місяць тому

      Valves mabie too tight or its skipped at tooth

  • @slowbr600rr
    @slowbr600rr Рік тому +4

    Craig are you gonna do anything with sports bikes?

  • @mayapple08
    @mayapple08 Рік тому +14

    Big props for doing it the right way and explaining to everyone what separates a mechanic from a parts changer…. Diagnostics.

  • @johngrabowski2957
    @johngrabowski2957 Рік тому +3

    That poor thing was still dizzy from getting electrocuted!! Wasn’t sure which end was the exhaust .

  • @LuisCipher
    @LuisCipher Рік тому +11

    And thus, you have proven why other shops would not touch this motorcycle. I hope this guy is ready for a rebuild price tag. The greater the trials, the sweeter the victory. Until part two, happy wrenching. You got this.

  • @OutRising
    @OutRising Рік тому +12

    Loving the channel guys! Also enjoying the banter between Craig and Dan. Keep em coming! :D

  • @kimkeam2094
    @kimkeam2094 Рік тому +17

    Kudos for getting someone’s pride and joy, taking on a difficult task and prepared to keep going until it is repaired. Before the spark failed, I wondered if the timing was wrong. Misfiring as it was, I’d be interested if that was a contributing factor.

    • @1219husky
      @1219husky Рік тому +5

      i agree its got all the hallmarks of timing off i had my first harley a 67 sporty and redid the top end and had tried every thing including having friends push me down the street did lots of snorting and popping.a friend came by and looked under my mag and seen i was 180 off he set it on tdc and reset my mag and it fired right up ! happy mf after all that!

    • @cartdoc
      @cartdoc Рік тому

      @@1219husky it's happens more times than guys think.. because they are too proud to tell their buddy, the timing was off!

  • @diydarkmatter
    @diydarkmatter Рік тому +7

    its a beautiful bike . i know you will get it fixed . and choppers never go out of style . there just a style all there own no matter what kind of bike it is . always a great look at me ride for sure .

  • @MrGixxer1300r
    @MrGixxer1300r Рік тому +4

    Craig some idiot put 24 volts on that bike with just a harness, and engine controler you got off pretty easy at first. Get a extra ignition box when you get the coil because I wouldn't be suprised if both are bad after a bunch of 24 volt hits. Also I know your tired but don't get so worked up. You are probably the most thought out mechanic on any bike or car channel I watch (and I have a mad medical condition that has me off work at the present time so I watch a lot of crap) The crazy stuff you built for Sean, and doing it with what yoou had for tools and parts would have sent a lot of guys out the door. Just go home kiss the wife and kids and get somemuch needed rest I bet $1000.00 you will wake up with a conclusion for this repair. Another thing DO NOT feel bad handiing this guy a big bill for the repair stupidity cost money. and you stepped up when most people said no. I wished I could still be a mechanic after over 20 years of doing it. I miss it. I also miss going to my personal shop and working on stuff. Not only did I work on bikes as a hobby I used to drag race them as well hence the name. Craig you got this man and I can't wait to see part two where you are riding it.

  • @bradfordrakes
    @bradfordrakes Рік тому +4

    Bo.... I deal with this kind of stuff all the time. I so wish I could show you the bike that's in here now, you wouldn't believe it. And yes.. I would also be dumb enough to take it on in the summer.

  • @michaelmitchell5909
    @michaelmitchell5909 Рік тому +7

    That's a sick bike man, I love it. Can't wait to hear it run!

  • @whollymindless
    @whollymindless Рік тому +3

    If it was easy, everyone would do it.

  • @Fxdxdingo
    @Fxdxdingo Рік тому +4

    Just went through this, had to re wire a whole new module, you cant get those thunderheart ones anymore!

  • @gerrymilidantri6457
    @gerrymilidantri6457 Рік тому +4

    Sounds like before it killed the starter because it kicked back that it may have jumped timing or, because the coil was failing it was intermitent. Yor awesome love the channel !

  • @sammysurm24
    @sammysurm24 Рік тому +3

    Sold motorcycles for many years. It got to the point where if I saw a chopper pull into our lot I ran into the service area. I didn’t want to be the guy who told a customer your 50-80g chopper is now worth 10 and we don’t want it either. This video tells you all you need to know and why those bikes died an ugly death in the industry. Also that’s a Thunder heart ignition, my friend who runs a small motorcycle repair shop literally spent a couple years replacing those in Big Dogs. He has flashbacks and PTSD from dealing with those wiring disasters.

  • @clinth179
    @clinth179 Рік тому +5

    Love your videos, keep ‘em going!

  • @FransvandenBergeMuziekschuur
    @FransvandenBergeMuziekschuur Рік тому +6

    Thank you. It was so satisfying to see what was behind all the 'doors' on this beautiful looking bike.

  • @GaryLordsWayMinistry
    @GaryLordsWayMinistry Рік тому +2

    Electrical schematic from Big Dog factory would have been nice to have. Starter might be ok but probably not. Then the ECU or computer wat lite up and fried too. so there's that. You have to have the ECU to control the fuel injection unless it is carbed, if so you go around that problem and get to the starter circuit and do to the switch and rewire it and move to tail light and headlight and signals. Just have to work through it system by system. I would of seen in Big Dog could sent you a new harness with schematics if it is fuel injected. I would check o2 sensors too just to make sure they are not fried too. + the solid state ignition needs to be replaced most likely. Check the electronic ignition advance in the engine compartment by the foot brake, under the round cover. Kind of says a lot about our so called mechanic here when he can't rebuilt a starter. I would replace the coil and check the timing. Should run.

    • @davidmcmahon5991
      @davidmcmahon5991 Рік тому

      You are💯 CORRECT here with your advice 😎👍

  • @RobRebel72
    @RobRebel72 Рік тому +8

    This is why I like watching you work, Craig. You take on a job and you keep at it until you've gotten the result you are after. Reminds me of some of the computer projects I've taken on throughout the years. Keep up the great work!

  • @alveus8205
    @alveus8205 Рік тому +8

    You’re a legend for taking this on. That wire harness stressed me out so much.

  • @user-pp5or5og4k
    @user-pp5or5og4k Рік тому +2

    The wiring looks typical for a big dog chopper of this vintage. They were notorious for having electrical issues. I've worked on a few in the mid-2000s

  • @deweycahill5582
    @deweycahill5582 Рік тому +8

    I really enjoy watching these videos with Craig, as a beginner working on my bikes I love how he explains as much as he can about how and what he’s doing and watching his videos makes me feel a lot less stressed about working on my bikes😂😂 still slightly terrified I’m gonna ruin the whole bike every time I open one up tho lol

    • @MrJavedb
      @MrJavedb Рік тому

      Who else do you watch to learn? What are some of the most "wow that helped teach me something" videos or resources? Best of luck to you

  • @anonimous2451
    @anonimous2451 Рік тому +1

    Ok I was here for what 3 days or more (likely a week) but actually only 20 mins but I am peeved TO NOT GET TO SEE THE "SHOCKING SUCCESS" OF THE FIX..........C'MONNNNNNNNNNNN MANNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN

  • @bangs2ndshotgarage865
    @bangs2ndshotgarage865 Рік тому +15

    Welcome to my world Craig. 80% of the stuff I work on is like your chopper. Takes way longer and more involved than initially thought. Don’t matter if it’s a bike, car or quad. The other 20% are really good cherished days as they don’t happen often.

  • @jeffsousa399
    @jeffsousa399 Рік тому +1

    From a prior 04 Bulldog owner, the factory compression releases on the heads, must be depressed, or your going to burn up two or three starters, you should really clean the carb, and use starting fluid to crank. And yes, you MUST use the big dog controller box. Mine was a 117” and ran like a raped ape.. 119HP, with a super G carb, and 640” lift cam.. fantastic build quality bikes then, was over 37K brand new.. sad to see this one was beat up on.. mis my bike, and 240 rear tire! Great bar hopper, but as I’m older, the 2016 Softail Deluxe feels pretty good….:) ride safe, keep up the content!..

  • @GerritKleynWinkel
    @GerritKleynWinkel Рік тому +6

    Yes you can!

  • @stephenperez5138
    @stephenperez5138 Рік тому +5

    Your sense of perseverance is inspiring. Then you have the problem-solving skills to get it done. Keep it up!

  • @G513-y3o
    @G513-y3o Рік тому +4

    Yes u can

  • @dkelley1959
    @dkelley1959 Рік тому +2

    Hey Craig Im a former Big Dog dealer from Maryland, as well as a owner of several personal bikes over the years. I partied with Sheldon Colman and Arlen Ness and others back in the big tire hey day at the annual dealer meetings throughout the country. I could of saved you a lot of time by telling you not even to try saving the original wiring and ECM.Those things would blow out if you farted to hard when you were riding those bikes. They were notorious for that, bad starters, bad speedo's and other various gremlins. The only way you can make them reliable is to do what you're doing, rip it out and start new. Looks like someone has already replaced the speedo with a digital and you rebuilt the starter and did the harnes so you're well on your way. Good news is the S&S 107 and the Baker transmission is pretty reliable providing its running the S&S rockers and not the Total Performance junk that caused a LOT of internal problems. Looks like that bike has the S&S top end components. Good Luck.

    • @davidmcmahon5991
      @davidmcmahon5991 Рік тому

      I agree with you 💯👍😎

    • @davidmcmahon5991
      @davidmcmahon5991 Рік тому

      Single fire IGN ,new coil single fire, Fuse box starter relay head light relay change controls,and switches, new wiring front to back tach, volt gauge no speedo I live Az not required here bike runs great now ,got rid of stock wiring harness, ECU. Clean and simple now! The way it should have been from factory no more electrical BULSHIT,or problems Happy Camper now 👍😎

  • @lewismocaby3646
    @lewismocaby3646 Рік тому +3

    Had to work on a Big Dog just a few weeks ago for a buddy of mine. He came across a smokin deal on a bike that had been at a dealership for a year and a half taking up space. Seems they couldn’t get the bike to start or even crank and weren’t able to sell the bike. Buddy brought it home and called me, we had it running in 15 minutes after I got there. It did take a while to get it roadworthy. The printed circuits behind the switches on the handlebars were corroded beyond belief. Eliminated all that garbage by rewiring the bike front to back using heavier gauge wire,actual relays and a hidden switch under the oil tank.
    You can check the coil you have on the bike before buying another one. Twelve bolts to the positive side with a piece of wire to the negative side that you can touch to a good ground. I have a feeling that you might need to check continuity on the signal wire between the camshaft sensor under what used to be the points cover and your coil. You may also have the same trouble I ran into of the contacts on the rocker switches being corroded or the printed circuits behind those switches. Good luck with your new nightmare.

  • @vk2aafhamradio
    @vk2aafhamradio Рік тому +1

    Would like to know why the engine was spitting up the carbie when cranking. Looked like the timing was waaay too far advanced. Early firing could be what caused a kickback that killed the reduction gear in the starter. Back to basics. Is the correct cyl at TDC when the ECM thinks it's at TDC? Crank angle sensor ok? You've thought of all this by now, hope you have it running.

  • @andrewclark1966
    @andrewclark1966 Рік тому +4

    Good quote "I don't think its' supposed to make different noises every time you try to run it."

  • @xToniFi
    @xToniFi Рік тому +4

    I really want to see this bike start up now, I can't wait to see what happens next.

  • @timbrooks2651
    @timbrooks2651 Рік тому +4

    love seeing the troubleshooting process. :)

  • @Mr_bigears
    @Mr_bigears Рік тому +9

    The "custom" chopper from hell, gotta love your job to work on that bike.

    • @michaelmitchell5909
      @michaelmitchell5909 Рік тому +2

      That bike was clean, someone else boogered up the wiring and fried the thing

  • @jonbeargenx
    @jonbeargenx Рік тому +1

    That was a big misfire! Is it a dual hit coil firing both cylinders every stroke, also on the second none combustion one? You could measure the windings on the primary and secondary of course. But by the time this video is out I am guessing you're already done with it :)

  • @theone2be33
    @theone2be33 Рік тому +4

    I am literally so impressed with the wealth of knowledge that Craig possesses.

  • @5musicman
    @5musicman Рік тому +1

    I spend nine months talking to people and finally found someone who new Big Dog electrical systems. He told me how to troubleshoot it by cranking the bike and looking at the lights on the ignition module. I emailed him and he said crank position sensor was bad . I ordered a new one and my 07 big dog K-9 came to life. Hopefully this helps.

  • @scubanick123
    @scubanick123 Рік тому +14

    Good job Craig! You've gotten that bike closer to running than whoever did the job before. Looking forward to seeing the part 2!

  • @quicksilver8180
    @quicksilver8180 Рік тому +1

    Here's the thing Craig, why were they trying to start it with extra ⚡ in the first place? More than likely it was doing sporadic spark and popping thru the carb on them and they just thought it was flooded or something so they said oh yeah 24 volts will do it because they saw it on some UA-cam channel elsewhere. When really it was a failing ignition system the whole time. Then you get hit with fixing the problem they caused before being able to find the original issue to begin with. This is More likely why the other shops stayed away from it as the owners story had some between the lines problems

  • @AsmodeusT
    @AsmodeusT Рік тому +14

    As a sparky i feel your pain, I also know why you took it on. There's no feeling like fixing something other engineers either cant fix or wont fix.
    Loving these videos, keep up the good work Craig!

    • @vincedibona4687
      @vincedibona4687 Рік тому +1

      “Sparky”.
      🤦🏻‍♂️

    • @AsmodeusT
      @AsmodeusT Рік тому

      @willydavid Thanks for helping him out with that one. I thought sparky was a universal term for electrician. Well, we are called Sparkys here in Blighty.

    • @grantodaniel7053
      @grantodaniel7053 Рік тому +1

      ​@@AsmodeusTYeah, sparkies here in Australia too, mate. 👍🇦🇺

    • @toddgittins5692
      @toddgittins5692 Рік тому

      ​@@grantodaniel7053NO. Bikies!

    • @rogerdodrill4733
      @rogerdodrill4733 Рік тому

      @@grantodaniel7053 I think welders should be sparkies, they always make sparks. When electricians make sparks, it's usually bad

  • @dizzyassklown4424
    @dizzyassklown4424 Рік тому +1

    Those early year big dogs had ecu issues. I put a wires plus kit in my 04' big dog and it took a good 6 hours. Dead ones customs has a kit that isnstalls in about 20 minutes...

  • @rodericde876
    @rodericde876 Рік тому +1

    It’s a chopper. Why bother fixing it. Customise it into a real motorcycle that handles and stops and goes and doesn’t attract men who dress up.

  • @siraff4461
    @siraff4461 Рік тому +1

    I agree that mechanics fix things while fitters replace things but part of being a mechanic is knowing when its better to fit new things over trying to repair stuff thats too far gone.
    Like this bike - its an S&S motor in a custom frame. Thats something there are off the shelf looms for so as soon as you see multiple problems with the original one you know its going to take less time and cost the customer less if you just replace it.
    If it was hit with a lot of amps at 24v pretty much anything electronic - including coils - will be dead or close enough that it won't last long. That burned wire is the sign. Imagine the insides of the electronics when that happened to a wire.
    I'm not a fan of throwing parts at something but for this one I would swap the lot because thats the long term fix in this situation.

  • @FlipandTheBlueMule
    @FlipandTheBlueMule Рік тому +1

    Where is your shop? In case I cant get my 95/04 BAD BOY FIGURED OUT... ?

  • @TheShepard5348
    @TheShepard5348 Рік тому +1

    Single fire ignition has 2 coils in one and needs to be wired, so the front coil fires the front cylinder and the rear coil fires the rear cylinder. Sounds, to me, it's 180 degrees out of time. Swap the plug wires.

  • @TM-yp9bi
    @TM-yp9bi Рік тому +1

    Man where's the fuse box in that thing....if it didn't originally have one, I sure would install one at this time

  • @mikehunt8968
    @mikehunt8968 11 місяців тому +1

    You know where the went wrong.. they assumed that a tractor runs on 24 volts, I can see how they did that.. 🤣🤪

  • @2smoker64
    @2smoker64 Рік тому +1

    Digging this new channel.🤘
    Hey at least no speaker wire or lamp cord in there..

  • @silasprescott1156
    @silasprescott1156 Рік тому +1

    Test a kill switch if it has one, brothers bike wouldn't start for years before we found that one...

  • @TheEccentricOne
    @TheEccentricOne Рік тому +1

    I'm guessing you checked the coil primary and secondary resistance since you said it was bad but the timing sounded off and I wouldn't be surprised if the ignition module was bad. I'd at least find top dead center and verify static timing.

  • @ddfred2u
    @ddfred2u Рік тому +1

    Big Dogs were made in Wichita Ks (where I live) and I've seen more than one up close and personal. None of the ones I've been into had a bird's nest under the seat. I had to giggle a bit when you said you didn't think it came from the factory like that...they were made in a nice well appointed shop....but no where near a factory!

  • @buellb0y
    @buellb0y 5 місяців тому +1

    My nephew has a big dog. Everything about it, with the exception of the “one off” (for the model) Baker transmission is a work of art,… and functional. The transmission issues are easily fixable, and after that, the bike has run flawlessly for over a decade.
    I think the general rule should be,… Big Dog had their electronics figured out, don’t dck with it unless you understand it!

  • @SAVING_ICONIC_MACHINES
    @SAVING_ICONIC_MACHINES Рік тому +1

    Great content mate shoutout from the Uk 🇬🇧 keep up the amazing content ❤

  • @bigcconservativeguy2534
    @bigcconservativeguy2534 Рік тому +2

    Check your cam sensor. Also the ignition module should have a red like that blinks while cranking. If not red blink then you truly have no spark, the old plug against the engine may not be sufficient to successfully test this in this case. Oh and one thing you should always do is to check each and every ground in the system to make sure they are all intact and solid!

    • @yodab.at1746
      @yodab.at1746 Рік тому

      Timing looked to be out when first cranking. Firing through the carb and backfiring are the clues plus an almighty kick broke the starter motor.

  • @n2vxc
    @n2vxc Рік тому +1

    hahah your not a mechanic your just a parts changer...do something with that meter

  • @thumpnbass
    @thumpnbass Рік тому +1

    These bikes were built in my hometown. I have been dreaming about owning a big dog since I was a kid!

  • @domeniconelli8382
    @domeniconelli8382 Місяць тому +1

    Voltage regulator wire was smoked. Don't ask me how I know.

  • @MichaelBarr-n4u
    @MichaelBarr-n4u Рік тому +1

    Camera guy should be seen and not heard. Can't stand his comments.