Ween's The Pod REVIEW - Worst Album Ever Made? (Ft. FrankJavCee)
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- Опубліковано 27 вер 2024
- Hello Everyone! We are now 5 years old on the youtube site! CRAZY! To celebrate me and my special guest FrankJavCee take a listen to my number one suggested video WEEN'S THE POD!
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Thank you for showing this Ween Album. I am not officially a Pork Roll Egg & Cheese fan, a Weener if you would.
Bro, I used to love your vids!
Frank!
You still do shit?
Upload and I’ll give you like $300
Very cool. Upload and I'll be able to hear it
soon...
The Pod is a masterpiece
SAY NO MORE
Yes it is.
It's more of a concept album than the mollusk, I think. It's paced really well.
Much agreed.
Thank you 👆🏼🤎
The Pod is certainly an acquired taste, but once you acquire the taste you realize it is an absolute masterpiece and wish it was a quintuple album. "I should like a basket of chips."
What is the pollo asada?
@@lamii6918 it is the chicken.
@@jackde1965 What is the Carne asada
@@kurodoodle4876 it is the beef.
Out of 50?
My favorite thing about ween is that none of their albums have a single unified genre. Except for one, a country album.
It’s called: 12 golden country greats
There are 10 songs on it
The 12 refers to the Nashville studio musicians who they hired to perform on the album, not the songs.
20 jazz funk greats
We’ve still got boppy 30’s honkytonk style mr Richard smoker
Mollusk is kind of a unified theme. Yarr
@@comradeScallion Sounds like the kind of record I could play on my drives to work
Don’t know why people say it’s an acquired taste. When I listened to the album front to back for the first time I was heavily into it
Same
Because you have that acquired taste. Good lord dog
The Pod is one of the greatest albums of all time.
I didn't think there was any argument either. Every note there for a reason, whether or not you know it.
It’s definitely one of the albums of all time
The Pod is like eating dirt and for some reason you like it.
It sounds like friends hanging out
POV worm
I understand what you're saying. I'm 52, have heard hundreds of thousands of rock bands, so I'm a true Rock and roller. When I tell you that Ween is literally one of the greatest bands I've ever heard in my life you should take that to the highest level. If the Beatles are at 10 I give Ween a 9.5, no joke. They have over 300 songs for you to listen to. I don't know any other band in the history of music that can literally do just about any style of music and sound fantastic. If so you tell me what that other band is because I don't know who they are. Ween is weird yes snd extremely brilliant and knows how to bleed life into their recordings. You want a band that you can feel and know that they have a serious connection with their music? Ween is that band !
Feel very similarly!
Yep 👆👆
He knows. He understands. They are the greatest live rock show on the planet.
I agree. But music is experiential. Could you imagine trying to turn a modern pop fan onto Ween? It can’t be forced. It’s a right time, right place kind of experience. And you would need to be open to experience it.
That’s why when I hear a 20 something say they’re a Celine Dion fan, I respect it.
@@dwaynesbadchemicals at least they are listening to music.
the thing is, with this album, you really have to listen to it over and over from front to back, without skipping any songs. do this for about a year straight, like i did. then you will realize just how great this album really is. it becomes a part of you.
Yep, one of the rare albums where you really need to listen to the whole thing at once. Puts you in such a specific state of mind, like a sweaty summer night of just meandering about with your best friends
I skip strap on that jammy pack because I honestly think Dr Rock is a better opening track
Or blast the album after smoking a bowl while driving all night across the state. Porkroll egg and cheese throws me into a black hole while driving safely, of course.
@@kellerwyant1704 I like Jammy Pack because it gives me time to pack a bowl before Dr Rock and I think it just sounds sick
I fell for this album from the first time I heard it. Maybe it's because I'm in love with crazy experimental music in general.
The old stuff is challenging, but stuff like Dr. Rock and Demon Sweat are as good as they come. When you can't understand the lyrics it just means you are suffering from excessive sobriety.
I love the way Gener cracks up in the middle of singing Right to the Ways and the Rules of the World.
When he laughs/cries at the end it’s so beautiful
I told an old dude I work with that I like Ween and he said he'd check them out. He listened to the Pod and now he doesn't talk to me too much
Shoulda specified lol
"This is just the sound of what rats think" is the funniest description of anything.
I was jamming this, 16 years old, walking around high school. Still a great album. Still a great band.
Cool story. Then what?
Dude same
Same
See them live. Best live band in the universe.
@@k00patr00pa1 been there, done that! I saw them twice (mollusk and white pepper tours respectively)
I actually got to interview Aaron as a high school kid back in late 97ish? They played "hot for teacher" and Clyde killed it singing and drumming at the same time.
May Boognish forever remain in your life!
All hail boognish!
I think it was all the way through the next album pure guava, they were actively telling fans please bring food to our shows. We are hungry, we spend all of our money on drugs. So yeah, ween love food
They had to stop, because people kept dosing the food.
@@k00patr00pa1 yes, that's why I said through pure guava. I think that was the tour where it really hit the fan. However, it's not all awful.
Due to a really really bad night of that dosed food and drinks, the boys got way fucked up.
Gene goes downstairs to get some food and gets freaked out by a newspaper headline that's supposedly said "Am I Going to Die Mommy?"
Gener flips out and runs upstairs to tell Deaner, Deaner is curled up into a ball in the middle of the room sweating and freaking out, all he can say is "Mister would you please help my pony?"
Gene got hungry and went downstairs and saw a newspaper article with the headline "Am I going to die, Mommy?"
@@eddiedingle767 and thus spinal meningitis and Mr would you please help my pony were born. Yeah I've heard that. MrWPHMP is Deaner's favorite song too.
@@eddiedingle767 Fucking amazing name man, how are things going with nan?
@@LowLifeChiselershe’s still walking with Danny down the street
Molly wasn't a term for MDMA back in 1991. Back then it was called Ecstacy or "X" and it wasn't popular in the US at all. In the late 90's it was called E and pure MDMA was referred to as "pures." Around 2008-ish is when the term "molly" became a thing, and it was specifically referring to pure MDMA. Only in the last few years has Molly been a slang term for all that encompasses MDMA.
Molly goes back to at least the late 90s, at least on Phish tour. And yes, it was used for pure powder MDMA. Pills were called Pressies.
we called molly molly in 93 ecstasy was the pressed pills and molly was the pure crystal. I was really well connected though. Not bragging just a fact. I ate a pressy for the first time in 91 and 93 ws the first time I heard the term molly and this was in America.
X was certainly a thing in the San Francisco rave scene well before 1991, mang. Such a thing, in fact, that the raves I went to were alcohol free because everyone was on e. First time I heard it called Molly was late 90's, but the term "roll" was used more often then.
@@brentlanyon4654 Agreed. Also a San Franciscan at the time, I had an experience with it in, I believe, 1989. I recall it being referred to as hard-X, though there seemed to be some confusion at the time with that drug and GHB being one and the same(they're not). The "molly" tag caught on around 1990 or so.
Ya molly is short for molecule, as in just the pure mdma molecule. And ya I first heard the term on phish lot in the 90s.
The answer is no, it's not the worst album ever made.
It's inspiring that 2 people can get a drum machine and make epic tracks and have fun while doing it. This is how every band should start. No fear, no overworking production, just 2 friends sharing fun times, making music, and making each other laugh. Is there a greater joy in the world? It's doubtful.
The Pod is the greatest album of the 90s, it changed my whole perspective on music
My favorite part of Pollo Asado is the math.
That’ll be 16.07. Out of 22. Okay 16.07 is your change
Okay that’ll be 22.
*Adds two lemonades and an iced tea.
Okay that’ll be 20.07
The lemonade part always made me laugh.
Just yesterday I was listening to that and was the only time that I considered the legitimacy of numerology. Just nonsense numbers...or are they?
Praise the all mighty Boognish and his disciples Gene and Dean Ween
OMFG a WEEN VIDEO!!!!!!! I am so glad you're talking about the boys. Hail Boognish.
As a Ween fan that got on the bus in 2001, I did not like The Pod when I first listened to it, but it quickly became my favorite Ween album. It is absolutely brilliant.
That’s when I was exposed to Ween by the owner of a skate shop I rode for when I was like 14. The first album I heard was Pure Guava and immediately fell in love. I have two tattoos; one my older brother designed that me and all of my brothers have on our left arms and a boognish on my right.
When I was in Iraq my second time I was an arm operator in a Buffalo crew. Our medic always rode with us and we had an iPod hooked up to our internal coms so we could play music and I rocked the pod one mission. My medic loved awesome sounds so much I ended up taking him to a Ween show when we got home and we tripped BALLs and had an amazing time. They opened with You fucked up.
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Jammypac is unironically my favorite track on the whole album, very closely followed by Laura.
So happy to see such a great and genuine discussion on one of, if not THE strangest and most intriguing albums I’ve ever heard. Hope you dive into some more of their catalog as there’s tons of great material to be found.
I feel the exact same way, Jammypac gives me a stupid grin every time
I've yet to hear a bad Ween song, even from their concept albums like Caeser. It's amazing how creative they are, it is the best album to just start up and have on repeat for a whole day, just sitting down in your armchair and relaxing as you hear it in the background.
@@sadfloppa1952 that's awesome man, mourning glory is similar for me since it never fails to make me smile
Do you know the band Caroliner Rainbow? The first time I heard Strap On That Jammypac, my immediate reaction what that it basically sounded like a Caroliner song. Check out the album I'm Armed With Quarts Of Blood, it's great, and if you love The Pod, and specifically if those two songs are your favorites, you'll probably get something out of it.
@@livedandletdieI feel almost the same, but there is one song I can't stand: Someday. I've seen it live twice, so it's not like I don't know it, but can someone explain it to me? Thanks ✌🏽🌻
Perfect album to blast when I clean the house. Makes the chores so much more fun. I just go around the house snickering and giggeling.
laura deserved more, that solo at the end is a mind warping brainfuck
Definitely my favorite ween song. Seeing deaner shred a 7 minute Laura Laura solo is mind blowing.
Laura, Boing, and Mononucleosis
My favorite ween somg
The Stallion is a fucking multi part masterpiece. The Stallion part 3 is the peak.
All Request Live is a set they recorded love to their website years ago. Many songs off The Pod were requested as it holds a special place in the hearts of fans.
They perform the entire suite of The Stallion pts 1-5 and it’s epic, EPIC BROWNING
I got to see the full suite in Atlanta in 2023. Blew my mind
YES! Thank you for giving Mononucleosis a 4.5 stars!! I feel like that song is often overlooked and I think it's one of the best songs on The Pod.
I found it really interesting to hear an outsider perspective on The Pod. It's mainly just hard-core Ween fans calling their best album. I myself love this album but watching you be weirded out by it and even loving some of the songs was super cool. I looked at your view count expecting hundreds of thousands of views but to only see a few thousand is criminal. Keep up the great work!
The ween album the mollusk was one of the major inspiration for sponge bob
Jammy Pac is such a genuinely unsettling song. It dilates your sense of time and makes you feel uneasy
This album makes me want to throw away everything I've written and just hit record and see what happens.
I am a massive Ween fan and I really love this video. You perfectly describes why I love Ween, they're so fuckin creative! Even on their most brownest tracks, I am still mesmerized by the technical effects they used where I just find it enjoyable. Ween is just fun to listen to and I suggest you should check out their other albums. Ween is like a box of chocolates, you never know what you're going to get. Praise Boognish!
I came here because of the title ready to talk shit about this blasphemy. Ended up watching the entire video on accident. Theres plenty I want to say, but to keep it short, please go listen to the Live at Stubbs version of Sorry Charlie. It corrects all of your qualms with the song.
I'm glad to have suggested this you are welcome
Really interested in your interpretation of She Fuck Me because its unanimously considered one of Ween's most wholesome and romantic songs
The greatest and Brownest of all records.
Hail Boognish 👆🏼🤎🐴
I love Ween, but I never could tolerate about 60% of The Pod. Thanks for another nuanced, objective review that will make me listen to it with a refreshed ear.
Ween are my boys. And the pod is a very good brown album.
This was the first ween album I listened to! I put it in my car and 3 seconds into strap on that jammy pack started playing I almost started crying from laughter. I had it on repeat for like 3 months doing food deliveries trying to find out what was so special about this album, I never quite figured it out but I love it all the same.
YES WEEEN. MY FAVORITE BAND. honestly this is a top 5 ween album for me. love it
The Pod is their best Album. It's so great, although I rate every song 5/5.
This album is a goddamn masterpiece.
You're like anthony fantano if he had charisma
I've heard people describe this album as "Soundtracks for the Blind but funny" and I hate that they're right
Fun take. You're missing context (know who randy Newman is to get jammy pack, have had a drug dealer to understand dr. rock, listen to stuff like Dio's "Holy Diver" to get the bombastic vibe behind the stallion, and a shit ton of early Pink Floyd to get "right with the ways.") A lot of ween is about vibes, channeling shit they were listening to and loved and dumping it out in their own way. Like being possessed a bit.
Also listen to Leonard cohen's greatest hits, which is where the album art came from. Even if you hate ween, listen to it, he's a great artist.
Love the touch of having the guava drink in the background
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When they perform songs from their early albums when it was just the two of them, they take on a different tone and personality. Like you said Dr Rock is a live fave, Laura is as well and Cpt Fantasy.
All of their songs are amazing live, the studio album versions are a bit drab, but they are all interesting in their own way. GodWeenSatan was quite unrefined, the pod was a face punch, Pure Guava which is the album I like the least is pretty weird, Their best album though is 12 greatest country songs. Specially Fluffy, the brownest Country song ever made.
Just like many others who are relatively new fans, my first time hearing them was in Spongebob. Although not the ocean man song... but loopdeloop.
you should check out Z-Rock Hawaii by Z-Rock Hawaii. It's basically a collab between ween and eye from the boredoms. They couldn't communicate much because of the language barrier, but eye apparently really liked their dog and played a lot with it haha.
Anyway it's a great experience and the cd even comes with a program where you can apparently pop bubbles and a snippet of the music from the album plays.
The best tracks on it are "The meadows", "Get a little taste of you" and "Chuggin'"
I totally agree
Agreed. I was lucky to see Ween play Taste of You back in '95 and never looked back.
As a fan of Ween and this album, the title of the video made me think this would be a hate-watch for me lol. But it turns out this is a very thoughtful and well-researched and overall-positive song-by-song breakdown.
Great review. Great band. Pure Guava was my favorite when I discovered them
I don't think it gets better than White Pepper now
White pepper is my least favorite Ween album, by far
@@kellerwyant1704 White pepper is my favourite!!!
Ive still yet to have a porkroll egg and chz.
"Okay, that'll be 16.07. Out of 20? Okay 16.07 is your change"
Best album of all time my man… now give me a fucking pork roll egg & cheese please
The Pod is a fucking masterpiece.
Huzzah! A new cactus video, I love these.
Oh no they're not universally loved. But they universally lovable. I find the pod to be one of the greatest albums ever made.
That was a great video! It reminds me of the first time I heard The Pod. Hope you do more ween reviews. See em live if you ever get the chance, there incredible in concert.
P.S. You should also take a look at the ween album pure guava, it’s the last very brown album before they started releasing more polished material.
P.P.S on an off topic note, you should put Corey Feldman’s “Angelic 2 The Core” in the running for worst album ever made.
i used to pick and choose my ween songs. You know, A dr rock here an Ocean man there, and a bananas and blow too. I'd avoid their songs I found weird like strap on that jammy pack, or spinal meningitis. but after listening to big playlists and skipping a lot of songs I started listening to their albums in full and in order. Now I don't think there's a single song that I don't like. All their songs became a little peak inside their brains, even the ones that are overtly brown as fuck provide an amazing insight. From start to finish Ween is an absolutely insane and amazing experience. I think It comes from the lore behind the band as well as the gradual growth of Aaron and Mickey. You really get to listen to them go from boys to men throughout their albums. I never had another band I liked give me an experience like that. They are really special to me, and Ill be a fan for life. Gene Ween, and Dean Ween are my heroes. GREATEST BAND OF ALL TIME!
my favorite part of the pod is when deaner says "what's going on?"
this is great!!! I love this album, I remember my older sister bringing me to the store to buy it when 12 Golden Country Greats came out and I needed to hear more, so we got their earlier stuff. So trippy.
Love the foreshadowing by drinking guava.
This is one of my favorite albums ever, and I found it through this series 🙏😩 thank you lol
All the brown family already in comments!!! Fuck yeah!
This is like watching a child taste single malt scotch, it's actually impressive how many notes he picks up on!
Cut to the chase. Unironically masterful. The whole thing is necessary. Never hit skip. It's work. Then the work pays off in droves when Captain Fantasy or Mononucleosis rolls through.
... then after some years you realize that Demon Sweat is the purest breakup song your gonna hear... other realizations follow, then after some more years you know exactly who your fucking with, your fucking with The Stallion, your fucking with the Goddamn Stallion..... mang
I have a suggestion=
Disgrace to the Corpse of Sid by Sore Throat. It's very Brown, it will tickle your ears with it's sultry sounds and give you a headache for two hours after listening to it. Not recommended for pregnant women under the age of 21.
The only way this is "the worst album ever made" is if you didn't GET THE JOKE. It's a piss-take on the profession of the music industry that this little punk rock berserk gem of a weird album launched Ween's entire career, pretty much, and it sounds like it was recorded using a 2-track Edison CYLINDER machine hooked up to a Commodore 64 computer. I mean. IT doesn't matter that it's a wonky sounding album. What mattered is the spirit of the art that lives inside it. I love this insane album.
This is by far not the worst album ever made.
Pure Guava is even worse, that is easily their brownest album. there's literally a Poop ship destroyer song on it
I mean pure guava is technically just leftovers and extra stuff they had. I would still argue that this is browner, as pure guava does sound a little bit less muddy.
However, Mourning Glory is the brownest song they've ever done. I will give you that
@@eddiedingle767 lmao pure guava is not leftovers at all. Its a new album with a new drum machine recorded sufficiently after the pod.
Pure Guava just ruined my closest friend in highschool upon first listening. 90s acid from the last Dead tour . Him balled up in the corner of a small get together, crying, asking me what the fuck are we listening to. That album will make the world melt.
Got some classic tracks but definitely one of their most out there albums.
Ween , themselves, are absolute LEGENDS.
I have always sort of looked at Ween as a meme band and never really thought about them much outside of that context. This video about what is supposedly their worst album has made me into an unironic fan. I was not expecting it to be such a fun ride.
Also I like your style of criticism. You aren't overly pretentious about what you like or dislike which can be hard to pull off when talking about avant garde music.
So many live classics on the pod. A masterpiece
Almost got angry at title. Then I watched the video. Super solid review.
After meeting them back stage at a concert in Memphis years ago,I DEFINITELY believe they did that album high off Scotch Guard.
And your girlfriend, she's in high school
She says she loves you a lot
Lord knows she can't support you
So you better sell more pot!
Sorry Charlie is brilliant.
Their best songwriting in my opinion. It all creates a mood I've never heard anything close to before. Like taking Molly in purgatory. Definitely a masterpiece.
Great reaction tnx. Surprised you didn't even mention the album cover with all the research you did. Or you did know but didn't think anything of it.
I originally recorded me talking about it but it was just cut like a lot of stuff so the video wouldn't be extremely long
Here's a couple of choices that might qualify for worst albums , many from established / familiar artists.
"for People Like Us" - Mamas and Papas (unexpectedly lame for their standard)
"Trout Mask Replica" - C Beefheart (love it or hate it, it's a polarizing album)
"Philosophy of the World" - The Shaggs (seriously, it's bad, but loved by Cobain)
"People Sex Over the Phone" Village People (the title is preview enough)
"Time" by Fleetwod Mac (they ran out of time, and members)
'"Never Let Me Down" (Tin Machine was the focus , so this fulfilled the contract)
I always liked Ween back in early 90s, but I kind of forgot about them and I didn't really get into them until about 5 years ago. I have daisies growing in my front yard, and I said to my son 'push the little daisies and make them come up'. And he thought I was nuts, so I showed him. And I just let the album play on youtube and holy crap man. Hooked.
I saw the title and was about to get so defensive. This album got the credit it deserved. However, Moving Away makes me tear up every time.
I absolutely love this album so much, I have the CD and the vinyl. Here's some of my favorites off the album.
Bangers: She F**ks Me, Pork Roll Egg And Cheese, Captain Fantasy, Mononucleosis, Frank, Stallion Pt. 1, Demon Sweat, Oh My Dear
Middle: RTtWatRotW, Molly, Don't Sweat It, Dr. Rock, Pollo Asado, Awesome Sound, Sorry Charlie, Alone
Meh: Strap On That Jammy Pac, Can U Taste The Waste, Sketches Of Winkle, Moving Away, Laura, Boing, Stallion Pt. 2
“Boing” might be meh on the album, but live? Well, is there a category above banger? Because “Boing” live is in that category.
“Worst”?? The Pod is sick as fuckin fuck. A masterpiece. It’s brown as hell, but damn. Listen to the songs as recorded, then check out their evolution onstage over the last 25 years. There’s nothing going on there that the word “suck” could credibly apply to.
That intro was fkin hilarious😂 HELLO EVERYONE!!!
Yeah, I'm a fan since the Shimmy Disc days in 1991. I saw them live in 1992 for the first time. Fuck yeah.
I got The Pod on Tape! Best album ever especially after some scotchgard hits!
I jumped on and off stage to Dr. Rock during The Mullosk tour
the pod is best listened to on cassette
'Moving Away' is one of the best tracks off The Pod, wtf. .
Ween are misunderstood genius, they will be regarded as some of the best of their generation for years to come there is NOTHING else out there like Ween. Listening to this album will definately take you to places you've never been before and back again.
This was my first Ween buy after Pure Guava. I was so confused, and ended up abandoning Ween for 20 years. Saw them live and have been in love ever since.
Apparently MDMA was called "Molly" as far back as the '80s, so that's probably what Gener was talking about!
Right to the Ways and the Rules of the World always reminds me of Current 93.
La Cucaracha is their worst album.
no
@@dougyuck what is it then
@@arlodante1163 the crucial squeegie lip
The worst album would not be made by a known band, much less a famous one.
Think of the worst music you've ever heard, and rest assured, the worst album is far worse than that.
It would not be amusing to even discuss the worst album, as it would probably be either so low-effort or so avant garde that it would be akin to rating a recording of static.
This channel is good for discussing underrated and overrated music, but you would do best to avoid truly bad music. I only watched this video because a friend asked me to, but if it was labeled in a less clickbait-y manner, I might have been tempted to click on this video naturally.
I see this is 2 years old, so hopefully you've heard "The Mollusk" and "Chocolate and Cheese" by now. Ween destroys.
Yes yes I have now listened to everything and agree ween is Goated 🤘
@@CactusMalpracticeas a ween fan, this is lovely to hear
It's a beautiful night for a walk on the beach, wouldn't you say?
Yes I would say that.
I made a mistake early in life by ignoring Ween. Ween is actually a killer band. The Pod is a Classic.
I appreciate the Pod in its original brown & demented form, but these songs are so much cooler live. Especially the Stallions, Frank, and Demon Sweat. They abandoned the intentionally lo-fi thing after their next record, Pure Guava.
No, it wasn't intentional really.
They were fucking broke.
They had a 16-track for good portions of GodWeenSatan, yes, but they lost that privilege not long after. They lived in a shitty apartment as well. While the music is entirely intentional, the lo-fi aspect really isn't.
@@sgt.purp1e fair enough
@@Gammarklar if that seemed aggressive, sorry, I curse very casually. But, they were dirt poor. Deaner really was pumpin gas 4 the man(g)
When I was first listening to THE POD I kept getting distracted and not listening to it fully. One night I was tired and idk my brain just wasn’t working all the way and I decided I’d listen to the full thing no stop. As I was listening, I must have zoned out and when Oh my dear (falling in love) played, it was magical. It felt like the clouds were parting and the sun was shining through. I also had dreams about listening to it all through the night. Anyways yeah it’s a great song, almost as good as Pollo Asado.
BTW, if you really want a serious challenge review Trout Mask Replica by Captain Beefheart. You will never be the same.. Oops, looks like i'm 3 years too late.. good work !! drink your Guava !!
I just offended this album was brought to ur platform. Every ween album up to La Cucaracha is EPIC!!!