A pity they cannot run a i952 Sheffield Roberts car on the modern Sheffield lines...just for fun. Unfortunately, they used trolley poles and the modern overhead is only for pantographs. Maybe the modern overhead is too low for a double decker, even fitted with a pantograph temporarily.
Hi Derek, most of the old trams are being kept, that is why Blackpool Tramtown was created, to turn the old Tram Depot in to a working Heritage Tram Centre. Some trams are leaving us, most are staying and some including 710 are returning.
sad news when the older trams are being sold off eventually there will be no old trams left they may keep a few but Blackpool ain't the same without the old trams! as them modern ones are horrible and in 20 years they will be scrapped! and these old girls will have out lived this modern shite 4-5 times over!!!
Are any of the heritage trams that run in Blackpool on loan from the Crich tramway museum? Is there a "Secret line" that runs from Blackpool to Crich that is entered via Blackpool South Station.
Hello George, He keeps the pantograph to the overhead wire. As there was not enough air pressure to keep the pantograph up by itself. At 1.18 you can see that, when he takes down the pole, the pantograph comes down as well.. When the air pump worked long enough the pantograph keeps itself up to the overhead wire. Watch that at 2.25
@@railmaster.7752 Hello Railmaster. Thank you very much for your infrormation! You are totally right! According to @Andrew Woodgate he lowered the pantograph as the wiring junction at that location only is suitable for trolley poles. So the 'regular' pantograph must be pulled down to avoid problems at that particular location. Beside that, if there was not enough air pressure to keep the pantograph up, what I supposed, there wouldn't be enough air pressure for the brakes as well...
@heinzer69 i watched trams use the foxhall junction many times shame its not brought back into action as im sure points were put in when the retrack happened
The blade is very short. The conductor or someone else (a pointsperson) has a point iron. The blade can be moved by inserting the iron into a special hole near the points or by a pinch bar moving the blade itself. Either one or both blades can move. Sometimes, one blade moves and the other is 'open'.
@@22pcirish Sure? I bet that is not what causes this! Most likely the panthograph for some reason have a too low lifting force and needs extra help to gain contact with the overhead wire.
@@railmaster.7752 Yes, I am positive. In San Francisco there is dual pantograph and trolley pole operation. Where switching is involved, a device known as a skate is attached to a frog which pushes the pantograph below the frog so as to avoid entanglement and tearing the overhead down. I am a 52 year member of the Branford Electric Railway Association (Shore Line Trolley Museum),and the New England Electric Railway Historical Association. I am a retired Amtrak Locomotive Engineer, starting with the Penn Central in 1972, and retiring from Amtrak in 2012. 90% of my career was spent in electrified territory (the Northeast Corridor) beginning with GG1's and finishing on the Acela. I was also an instructor on the AEM-7's, and on board instructor on the Acela. I am no trackside foamer tooting my own horn, but one who has worked professionally in this field for 40 years.
Beautiful condition. I hope the old girl goes to a museum and not a scrap yard.
I felt emotional as if it was the last time I was seeing a member of the family.
Great to see how many man hours has gone into keeping these old girls looking fabulous 😊😊😊
Excellent video great to see liked and subscribed for more
Great old tram update cheers
A pity they cannot run a i952 Sheffield Roberts car on the modern Sheffield lines...just for fun. Unfortunately, they used trolley poles and the modern overhead is only for pantographs. Maybe the modern overhead is too low for a double decker, even fitted with a pantograph temporarily.
What is happening to the ald heritage trams why are they not being kept they are a part of Blackpools history
Hi Derek, most of the old trams are being kept, that is why Blackpool Tramtown was created, to turn the old Tram Depot in to a working Heritage Tram Centre. Some trams are leaving us, most are staying and some including 710 are returning.
@@blackpooltramtown4951 thanks for your reply I just love to see them on the prom when I come to Blackpool
@@blackpooltramtown4951 Will it be re-fitted with the correct trolley-pole collector, now that it is out of everyday service?
How do you know what vehicle is running before booking on a tour? It only ever shows as "double deck" and no ID, are the 64X only for private use?
sad news when the older trams are being sold off eventually there will be no old trams left they may keep a few but Blackpool ain't the same without the old trams! as them modern ones are horrible and in 20 years they will be scrapped! and these old girls will have out lived this modern shite 4-5 times over!!!
Are any of the heritage trams that run in Blackpool on loan from the Crich tramway museum? Is there a "Secret line" that runs from Blackpool to Crich that is entered via Blackpool South Station.
they go via road on a low loader from Blackpool to crich! as I never knew Blackpool hired there trams I thought they owned them!!!
what's happening to 715?
Is this one going to be preserved?
Fabulous video friend !!!!!!
The replacements should have been built in the same style, only with better quality interiors and modern electronics.
Nice capture
Can I use this video in my train compilation video credit to you in video will be given
What's the hi-vis man with the long pole for?
Hello George, He keeps the pantograph to the overhead wire. As there was not enough air pressure to keep the pantograph up by itself. At 1.18 you can see that, when he takes down the pole, the pantograph comes down as well.. When the air pump worked long enough the pantograph keeps itself up to the overhead wire. Watch that at 2.25
I think he's pulling the pantograph down under wiring junctions suitable only for trolley pole-equipped trams
@@andrewwoodgate3769 You're correct!
@@marcvanderwee
Nope! The opposite! He is lowering the panthograph for som reson!
@@railmaster.7752 Hello Railmaster. Thank you very much for your infrormation! You are totally right! According to @Andrew Woodgate he lowered the pantograph as the wiring junction at that location only is suitable for trolley poles. So the 'regular' pantograph must be pulled down to avoid problems at that particular location. Beside that, if there was not enough air pressure to keep the pantograph up, what I supposed, there wouldn't be enough air pressure for the brakes as well...
Where’s the trAm going
Where and why is it going?
It's just having a massive overhaul they are taking out of service for the time being.
@heinzer69 no sadly
there was one many years ago, via Foxhall
@@michaelward2082 But then they built a housing estate.
@heinzer69 i watched trams use the foxhall junction many times shame its not brought back into action as im sure points were put in when the retrack happened
How do the trams take the alternate rails as I don't see any points? Does the driver somehow make that happen?
Tram points are tiny so they can be driven over. At about 1:15 there is a set of points in the bottom of the video frame.
They are manually changed by a man inserting an iron bar and moving each rail over to the desired position.
The blade is very short. The conductor or someone else (a pointsperson) has a point iron. The blade can be moved by inserting the iron into a special hole near the points or by a pinch bar moving the blade itself. Either one or both blades can move. Sometimes, one blade moves and the other is 'open'.
Where is it going to live?
He's funny when he closes his eyes, even if I blow on him or tickle him, he makes it funny when he closes them, but ours don't know how to do that.😄
" What's on the stick Vic ?? "
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Beeing a tram expert myself, I don't understand whe the man has to lift the pantograph?
No idea atoll, kind of weakness??
Partial/manual lowering to clear the neutral sections where the trams doesn’t have enough speed to coast through, probably.
@@22pcirish
Sure? I bet that is not what causes this! Most likely the panthograph for some reason have a too low lifting force and needs extra help to gain contact with the overhead wire.
@@railmaster.7752 Yes, I am positive. In San Francisco there is dual pantograph and trolley pole operation. Where switching is involved, a device known as a skate is attached to a frog which pushes the pantograph below the frog so as to avoid entanglement and tearing the overhead down.
I am a 52 year member of the Branford Electric Railway Association (Shore Line Trolley Museum),and the New England Electric Railway Historical Association. I am a retired Amtrak Locomotive Engineer, starting with the Penn Central in 1972, and retiring from Amtrak in 2012. 90% of my career was spent in electrified territory (the Northeast Corridor) beginning with GG1's and finishing on the Acela. I was also an instructor on the AEM-7's, and on board instructor on the Acela.
I am no trackside foamer tooting my own horn, but one who has worked professionally in this field for 40 years.
@@railmaster.7752 watch it again. The man with the pole pulls the pan away from the wire.
Don’t know what that mercedes thinks its doing at the end! 😂
he thought - its a no brainer.... haha
You cannot believe that councils are😅 getting of teams
and the point of that was for what
Weigh it in, it's had it's day. We need more washing machines