Destiny 2's "free to play" is just strange. They continue to make the game pay to play, yet make the game more grindy than most free to play game's I've played, while also having a metric shit ton of content locked behind the cosmetic shop. The game is "free to play", is as, if not more grindy than most free to plays, yet to play it you need to buy the $70 yearly expansion with $20 seasons every 4 months and $20 dungeon key every year
Love D2 PvP, love it. But it needs life, has for a long time. It needed investment years ago. Squandered opportunity... I'm still playing but I can feel the population swinging
Mate, I'm an old man, I've been playing since day one, D1. Played Final Shape, really enjoyed it. Since then I've struggled with it and took a break. I still watch the vids but when I think I might come back Bungie ruin it with their incompetence. I started going to the gym and it's better than this shit. As a caveat, I've got cancer so my time is a bit more important but I've had it for four years. D2 used to work. Not anymore.
God bless you pal. That's amazing you go gym with that illness. We as ppl are all affected by cancer. I myself have experienced both my parents with that. I hope you're on the mend mate. Have a merry christmas 👍👍👍
I’m going to watch all your video mate but I will comment now and say if the game keeps heading in this direction it’s fucked. I’ve been here since its inception (9,000+ hours) and stuck with it through thick and thin, the good times and the bad times and I can honestly say I’ve never seen a game regress so hard. It feels like we’re playing a beta again after all these years. Troubling times ahead for sure.
Having spent thousands of hours in D2 it pains me to see it at the state it is in, but to be honest I stopped playing many months ago. All my UA-cam subscriptions still remain as I hope to see my favorite creators branch out and play new games. There's no resurgence at this point, at least it's not wroth betting a content creator's future to find out.
On a side note, I initially hated the Z0 mission but watching you play it so many times I kind of started liking it lol. Also no way 12:20, I've always had this idea because I enjoy the Moon often, how cool it would be to have a GM difficulty patrol with some events, inspired me whilst playing Master Nightmare Hunts how more enjoyable the upped difficulty is in these patrol areas.
There should be Foundry events and missions. Perfectly on theme with a faction style event. Hell it could be factions tied to foundries. It would be awesome to defend Suros from Eliksni pirates!
Foundry as in weapon types like hakke vs Omolon? There was dead orbit themed missions in D1 take n king and tbh they were rather good. Yeah be awesome I agree pal
I’m in the camp that it’s not the dawning’s fault people have dipped but other games are now availible to get addicted to. The answer seasonal events is they should always be new and fresh to keep people engaged. The type of player who enjoys running the same activities for years is nitche.
They keep expecting the player base to revert back to the core activities and engage with them for ‘content’ but for players who’ve played for a long time there’s only so many maps you can replay that aren’t boring you to death after the 3,000th time you’ve been on it. Total lack of creativity and innovation and the cracks are opening up and starting to show now. PoE2 is here and it’s a blast.
10 year destiny veteran here. I quit playing after I completed all final shape activities on all 3 characters. The seasonal activities and the guns and gear in these seasons is not worth my time. I was excited for prison of elders returning. But they ruined it with the guns. I went to warframe 4 months ago. So did my clan. We love it. Haven’t played destiny since. Don’t plan on buying the new destiny dlc either. I have no faith the current studio will deliver something worth my time. Warframe and its developers definitely care about their players. It’s a different story at warframe. There’s huge numbers of destiny players there. So unless bungie surprises me with something awesome. I’m done either way destiny.
Haven't played D2 in over 4 weeks now. Usually the thing I look forward to most every season are the GMs, but I couldn't be arsed to do them this season. The game just feels like it's moving so slow compared to other actual free to play games. It's strange since Bungie has so much talent money behind them, yet the quality and amount of content they put out is just not enough, keeps getting less and less while the prices get higher and higher. Destiny's one of my favorite games, so I hate to see how terrible it is compared to its competitors.
I really like your analogies and comparisons Chablo. Proper British banter! One of the reasons I watch you over other amazing D2 players. You are entertaining as fuck man keep being yourself!
I appreciate your work for destiny. When we would do gms snd dungeons. We would always discuss your builds tactics and videos because you always have fantastic guides. They are a big help. So thankyou. I appreciate your hard work. You are better than the big content creators in my view. So I hope you don’t stop making content. Whatever content you do make for games.
@ yup. We view it like this. If chablo is completing gms or dungeons solo using certain builds. Then it has shown us that when we mimic your build in a 3 or two man fireteam. It’s then much much easier to dominate the activity. We always do low man raid farming 2 or 3 man raid activity raids and often 2 man gms. So when we use your build tips or just plainly copy them. It’s a breeze. We always would say .. what does chablo say to use for this. When a new GM is in the refresh. That was our mindset with the destiny endgame content. We will come back if bungie puts something out worth playing. But other than the stasis rocket sidearm. Theres nothing worth my time. Even that. Bungie will give it away in the future anyway. I hate it when they do stuff like that. Giving exotic class items for even people that never did duality. Really chapped my ass. We grinded and grinded for our class items. Then they give them away for candy. Like really? This kind of stuff really turns us off. But we love your work. So thankyou.
I've been investing stocks for 30 years and if there is a Destiny2 stock I would have sold it a year ago. No new feature is going to bring it back to Witch Queen popularity and quality. My words are a waste as you can easily see the play count graph on Steam. A company whose founder and smartest engineers are lost will not create new and innovative products. We all know about it. We just need to move on. The exodus happened long ago. All content creators need to adjust their content strategy like how you strategize your load out for a GM. You're extremely skilled and there are plenty of challenging games that will highlight your flawless plays. I hope that you succeed in diversifying and those of us who recognize your name and skill will continue to support you.
From my perspective here several points why game is dying: 1) Constant bugs which fixes long time or even doesn't fixes at all. 2) Cheaters, cheaters are everywhere in pve in pvp, and they like for years if someone gets banned it's because he's hard cheater. 3) All seasonal activities are the same without anything new, battlegrounds or onslaught it's nothing wow, fresh or intriguing. 4) Rewards, game now just doesn't value your time, when they cancel crafting and add this tonic system with bugs that you need to leave in this activities to get smth it's just crazy. Also here can add weapons which most in case are sucks and you in niddle where need to grind to get a loot but loot is meh that you don't want to do it. 5) Bungie and their attitude towards players, well here is clear that Bungie in most doesn't care of player base cause each their decision making just worse, game with bugs, not working content which taking ages to fix but if its noney they done eith it in hours(sometimes even in minutes). How right down DMG that Bu gir lost trust, but thing that this trust was lost long ago, when they delete all of the content, when they make Lightfall, when they announced episodes and telling that it's something unbelievable in depth and longer lasting that seasons and thats why there be 3 of them not 4, but in reality it's lie and there no depth, this length of episode building on waiting between acts, there constant problems with quality. This game has sooo much problems, sometimes i think Destiny has problems more than in any other game. I was watching DE stream when they talking about 1999 update and that if you a new player you don't need to rush to making all of quests to get open it cause this and other won't be deleted. Well, sry for to long essay and if here mistakes cause it's not my native language.
Where can I throw you some cash on UA-cam? I know you can do it during live events, but how/where do you go to sign up for premium access? We will keep the lights on!
So I'm getting Patreon next week. I have youtube memberships also. So i offer a discord server for free and a private server for patreon or youtube memberships thats prioritized for Q and A D2 solo end game advices . 5 quid a month. That's what I'm advertising atm. I will be doing live premieres this week also. I don't need cash so much. I need more members to maintain the channel's weight. That's why I'm doing these memberships. Thanks for enquiring sir 😎👍
Haunted Forest, world tiers and a reset of the game as well as bringing back factions...somebody over there at Bungo needs to be taking notes! And the thing with the factions is still somewhat unresolved since we got the skimmer from Lysander of the Concordat. When is that, if ever, will be bought to light? Really looking forward to a follow up video about your ideas of a reset. I'm here for this!
I generally skip the seasonal stuff to catch up with other games. I really dislike any light, comical, weird gimmick in Destiny- even stuff not Seasonal but Story related. I like the dark, dangerous stuff- that makes me want to play
I’m gonna play Destiny no matter what. It’s the main game I enjoy playing solo and I’ll probably always play it. I’ve played since D1 Beta and I’m just not going anywhere. I enjoy your content and I’ll watch whatever Destiny content you make. I enjoy your perspective, honesty and expertise. I’d personally love to see you branch into more variety of content for Destiny. I’d like weapon reviews, guides, etc. I think you’d be good at it, but I understand if you don’t feel comfortable making that type of content. As I said, I’ll watch whatever Destiny content you post.
So crafting videos were a a favourite style of video of mine I used to make. Since the debate between RNG vs Crafting I have stepped away from it a little bit. Crafting videos or weapon revies are basically very easy to make. For reference a hard solo GM or dungeon is probably triple the amount of work. Cheers sir :)
I’ve been saying for years just give me strikes. Spending time doing seasonal events is crapola. I know it might sound boring to some, but furthering the story through missions and strikes (that we can do masters, grandmasters) are what I’ve wanted. Because I know when we’re in the dog days we can still do things. Ability spam making my weapons worthless is a big part, but mostly just discardable content being pushed out instead of core game things like strikes, crucible maps etc.
even me who was enjoying the game, them disabling the literal progression path for dawwning that it broke everything felt so horrible. At least they just unlocked everything that broke. But like, that was so shty?
Ever since I hit the pinnacle on all three characters (2010), I lost interest in playing. Even though I've gotten two fair judgment rifles by maxing out crucible and gambit and i'm at level 13 on vanguard, but I don't feel like putting the effort in to get those final 3 levels. But, I try to play Starfield on XBox, and I find that bugs and freezes there with the game make me decide to watch movies and read books instead. I am an older person (mid 40s), and if I am losing interest in gaming in general, that's a bridge I don't want to cross just yet
You are truly unique man and I hope you can ride out the inevitable chop that this game is going to see (again) and come out the other side stronger and with more reach. You should be eating most channels 3 or 4 times your size for lunch and I hope you get there sooner than later. Crack on mate and I'll see you in that shiny new Discord spot you made.
Even when i wasn't playing destiny you were the only content creator i would still watch because i love your content, as i always say keep up the good work Lord Chablo
@Chablo91 I play ASA it's ok, not a shoot. Haven't found something to play like destiny. I couldn't justify the money for destiny for just the same rehash a grind.
Chablo I’ve always been a fan of your style and videos. That said, I’ve dumped D2 after 10 years and it’s been refreshing. I don’t believe that it’s a good approach to die on the D2 hill. Truth is the players cared more about the game than Bungie ever did. With the announcement of no D3 in the works, this broken patchwork content isn’t going to bring people back. I know branching out can be tough but I really feel like your style of presentation would translate well to other games outside of D2.
@@Chablo91 I’m not just saying this because it’s the hot game right now but PoE2 has an unbelievable amount of content and is only in early access. Again, I’m not sure if that’s your cup of tea but you can play completely solo and the build variety is insane. To be clear, it’s not Destiny but content keeps channels alive. PoE 1 has a solid player base and has been going for 10 years. PoE 2 has been much more positively received.
When someone makes a comment like yours that has weight to it I am more likely to use their idea in a run. That was great that mate yeah loved it thank you appreciate ya :)
I'm sorry mate, but the reason seasonal events are so boring and bland nowadays is because they see the player metric. Why bother doing massive changes when Bungie knows that people will play these same old events year after year. A majority of people need to stop playing D2 if they want to see any real change imo.
Vote with your wallet guardians. vote with your time absolutely I don't disagree. I'm just letting you know where I stand this month how I feel about it simply
We all need to just come to grips with reality. They said from the beginning, Destiny was a 10 year plan. The heart and soul has been fired from this game and it's now just a place holder for ppl that can't let go. Until the money that is spent on evervese, and empty calorie DLC dried up they will keep pumping out recycled, mindless, thoughtless, boring, bug filled busy work trash. It was fun while it lasted.
@@Chablo91 TFD is fast food of the looter shooter genre. The game has little skill involved (compared to D2) and it's very much like an MMORPG where your time spent grinding determines how well you'll beat a boss. It's not the type of game for you as it won't highlight your strengths. A boss can be impossible and then when you have the right build it'll die in 8 seconds. They didn't build this game for the long haul, at least not for now.
It’s not you Chablo. Destiny has been put out to pasture with a skeleton crew just to keep it going for the straggler market. Those people that decide to try it for the first time. I have been through this with another game and it’s picture perfect replay to what I lived through with Division! Destiny 2 will always be here moving forward but only for those that enjoy playing the same maps and content over and over.
D2 been feeling so stale even though technically it has most the content I used to love playing. Honestly I thought Pantheon was like peak all time for me because it made me play raid encounters I never had before and it had great rewards, then final shape was good in terms of prismatic class/weapons but lacking in replayable content. 100% agree on seasonal events sucking hard (the pass or whatever you can buy for those makes me want to uninstall the game). Discovered your channel through your amazing solo flawless dungeon content. Concluding: I'll watch your content no matter what game you play as long as you bring your unique perspective that has always brought more true value than other channels. You're too good to give up man, just find a game that provides you the personal entertainment that justifies you making videos on it! I know D2 is really your biggest hobby, but maybe eventually you'll be just as into something else.
The standards of the game industry got so high, mobile games are literally getting better than AAA games from "big studios", like WHY THE HECK RISING LOOKS BETTER THAN D2??!! 2025 is also GIGA STACKED with amazing games too
For me I'm kind of pre-holiday work grinding so not much time for any games. I had my Playstation on a few nights ago and I was about to play but I ended up just watching a movie instead. There's just not much to do in D2 right now and the prison of elders seasonal activity isn't very fun. I enjoyed the coil when it was out but this season's content just isn't drawing me in. I also noticed que times to do anything are really long. I go to play in crucible or do the seasonal stuff and I just sit there, or I get put into an in-progress thing after sitting there waiting for 5 mins. That sort of thing is just wasting my time. The fact that my clan is dead and my friends list is barren isn't helping either. It just feels lonely out there...
What up chablo, still want to support but can't take another year of baking cookies. At this point I don't even care what the loot is anymore. TFD has been filling in the gap. Shooting and movement is not as good but the devs cares, there's always new content and builds actually matter there.
I quit just before the new year stuff switch to warframe and it's fun for me getting all the stuff there done. This recent update has been very enjoyable. I can not see going back to d2 no matter what they do. An would be sad if you stop but you have to do what's best for you. When you post Warframe it's s gurrented view from me😊
I’m afraid it’s going to be much worse going forward. I still play most every day but I can’t wait for another game to come along and lock me in. I will drop Destiny so fast 💨
Started PoE 2, haven't touched D2 since. Will be back for the new exotic mission and dungeon, but once Monster Hunter Wilds comes out, D2 goes on the shelf. Heresy needs to clap cheeks and hard, otherwise the game will legit die off completely. 3 episodes ranging from mid to bad is not something people will be able to swallow. If Heresy is not good, Code Apollo stands no chance. Dead on arrival.
Game has been going down hill for a while. Watch that steam-chart concurrent player continue to drop if they don’t change course. From recent power level increase, no crafting for new seasonal weapons, to long tedious SE raid traversal, repetitive dungeon mechanic, inverted strike rework… Game is designed to disrespect ur time
that is the key for me "Game is designed to disrespect ur time". When I saw that such was the case I stopped playing, may be 2 + years ago, cannot remember. The grind had become stupid. Bungie was and is insulting players.
“Destiny died with the witness” I read that a couple of months ago and it rings true, destiny was a blast but I’m happy to have stopped playing now, it was a nice finale. Hope to see you playing some new games and getting some more traction here on UA-cam.
i feel for this, I’ve been playing less and less as time goes on. ive got all the rolls of weapons I want from the seasonal content, already done solo flawless dungeon, got the title and got the weapons I want (mainly the gls) and the event is just, not as fun as it was in the past, ill probably gild my title and then call it from there. not to mention all the bugs and everything making the game in the most broken state it’s ever been. you can tell the game is on life support; and bungo gambling everything on marathon instead of their cashcow really shows. i don’t think ill stick around past heresy, unless frontiers is something amazing and revolutionary (which judging from everything they’ve said, im not sure how to feel), ill probably be looking for a new game to play. sad because, i love destiny but it’s shit like this that really makes it hard to enjoy it when there’s so much that happens because bungo can’t get priorities straight.
Not watched it all as im at work but will catch up in the morning but i know what youre saying. Played from day one, done everything, help so many people, 12k hours in. There's not enough room to state what is wrong and what has changed for the bad. The game is a mess. I dont play any other games apart from 1 other and I haven't played that in a while. I keep coming back to this because I keep hoping it gets better and still help people I try to do what will benefit them. To be honest I've never had fun in this game when recluse and mountain top I grinded for *not a pvp person * and some of the past seasons. It's all just gone wrong.... but I have the memories of a shit hot game.
I am (was?) a pvp player. I haven't set foot on pvp in more than a month other than some private matches with friends. At any other time in D2s lifespan i would have been grinding the shit out of the comp and seasonal shotguns. Now I'm watching my comp rank descending every week and I don't care. This is coming from a guy hows be ascendant solo every season up until now. It's just too much, everything it's too much. Pve it's whatever, fine for some some hours here and there but that's not the Destiny I fell in love with. Marathons succes will decide D2s fate for Bungo. And even if it fails (wich probably will) Bungie and D2 migth be too dead to even attemp some kind of comeback
This game has so mush time spent on research and development for the wrong things. Think of how much time was wasted developing this game for the ships sparrows paid armor and ghosts. The whole tonic system was a waste of time. They spent all that time making a whole new tower for us to mix potions, For 3 Acts. They develop and R&D for the free to play vs the actual community that regularly plays the game.
hey man, whatever you decide to do, I'm along for the ride. have you thought about doing gm runs with people? you wouldn't need to be on comms, and maybe run them with a buddy who you've developed some sort of groove with. there are few duos on lfg with a title like "come guild your conqueror" and honestly, it is a pleasure to tackle a hard gm with people who enjoy playing. just a thought. I could see you and tizz pulling from your discord for a few hours, and running members through gms who aren't able to find team mates. obv huge time diff, but that sort of thing
Factions and Flashpoint. The proper Destiny. Doing a public event and waiting for a big turd to turn up that was a pain to deal with as everyone buggered off. Especially in the Sunken Isles as I can remember a big Fallen Boss spawning. And Flashpoints on Mercury witch had loads of yellow bars. It's sad that time has gone
Playing hell divers at the mo, completed the dawning event, locked out all Eva’s upgrades, still can’t get extra perks in column 3/4, this is after the patch, so why bother if I’m not getting correct awards.
What the game needs is new players. The game is too complicated. We did not need more activities like weapon and potion crafting that need to be figured out and slow down the game play loop. We need new people to help. They can revitalize the game. Begging your old players to come back or stay is never a good idea. It is a bad look for the game. This is an amazing game but all the complaints scare off new players. I introduce people to this game in my work and they all love it. They would not love it if they didn't have a guide to help them find the good content because it takes knowledge to find it. Play with new folks. See what they like and help them. You might find yourself enjoying the game more.
Sorry man, I haven't played in a long time nor watched any D2 videos. Sometimes I miss it, then I think why I stopped playing. Aside from the state of the game as I see it, I can no longer support Bungie - they are a fucked up, woke, stupid company and that started before Sony took over. I still am signed up :) And still think you are really one of the absolute best D2 content creators in the game. I think it's sad that lesser creators have more subs. You do really good work here, and taught me more about how to play the game than anyone else, or should I say all of them. Plus you have great ideas (Dead Orbit member here lol). Anyway, thought I should swing by, say hi and wish you not only success, but Merry Christmas too!
You are a member there is a exclusive post for you just letting you know about the membership edits. Merry Christmas mate thank you for all the support over the years :0
The guy has the same template probably I don't know him. I got my template off a talented creator with his permission. I cannot control every body else on what they do. Since my intro has my logo then it is therefore a different intro
The Witness should of won. Bungie should of made D3 as a prequal. I think it would of been interesting and challenging to not yet have the Guardian powers. Pure gun play/survival and gadget development.
I don't think Bungie's plan to try and keep d2 rolling will continue to engage the player base....they need to bite the bullet and start again, new engine, new direction...move on Bungo...
I vote with my playing time.. took a year off last year because of the games state... Am back on break again cos of the refusal to put anything decent in the game... Episode 2 (acts one and 2) there should be a class action law suit for high way robbery this game studio is rinsing everyone's money and giving us broken buggy content and then refuse to fix it.. unless it effects there money.. (look at dawning card) They just refuse to help the player base... Or the game in general to prosper... I log in look at the spaceship and log out and go play a real game I'll have some actual fun playing or do different activities that don't involve destiny the toxic raid community or toxic PvP community The community is overally toxic and the game is stale.. The dev steam for episode 2 they was patting them self's in the back for creating the tonic system... Well it's broken bugged and don't work How about you resign from your technology job and give it to someone who actually loves the game and wants it to be better Either way I don't care anymore like Ivan drago said if it dies it dies I ain't sticking around no more
There has always been lows with Destiny. Every season UA-camrs talk about it, this has been happening for 10 plus years. New content comes out and all streamers are happy, a month later most casuals move on.
Its the scandals and politics. This has to be the worst time since 2017. I've seen everything It's a culmination of bad stuff since lightfall. Ppl are boycotting D2
I tried First Descendant....meh. There's so many new lights out there that need help and are grateful for veterans helping them. They don't know what to do with cookie stuff. More exotic missions! Maybe Guardian games should be helping new lights? Pantheon? With armor rewards? Yet, sadly, it was the Creators in twitch who wrecked the game. I have no sympathy! Do not bite the hand that feeds you! Why I stay with you, mate. The last 2 seasons were spectacular. Episodes not so much.
I might get heat for this!
Free to play was a mistake imo!
They do not invest in these events anymore! Sad to see!
It was a bad move mate defiantly agree
Destiny 2's "free to play" is just strange. They continue to make the game pay to play, yet make the game more grindy than most free to play game's I've played, while also having a metric shit ton of content locked behind the cosmetic shop.
The game is "free to play", is as, if not more grindy than most free to plays, yet to play it you need to buy the $70 yearly expansion with $20 seasons every 4 months and $20 dungeon key every year
You’re my fav destiny 2 creator by far. I’m a loyal soporten regardless if I’m playing D2 or not
Recently I got back to destiny 2 to play casual crucible and man... wtf is that, so many hackers and 1 hour long load screens before the matches
I wouldnt recommend D2 for PVP, COD would be better for PVP I reckon.
Love D2 PvP, love it. But it needs life, has for a long time. It needed investment years ago. Squandered opportunity...
I'm still playing but I can feel the population swinging
Mate, I'm an old man, I've been playing since day one, D1. Played Final Shape, really enjoyed it. Since then I've struggled with it and took a break. I still watch the vids but when I think I might come back Bungie ruin it with their incompetence. I started going to the gym and it's better than this shit. As a caveat, I've got cancer so my time is a bit more important but I've had it for four years. D2 used to work. Not anymore.
God bless you pal.
That's amazing you go gym with that illness. We as ppl are all affected by cancer. I myself have experienced both my parents with that. I hope you're on the mend mate. Have a merry christmas 👍👍👍
"If people aren't playing, they aren't watching", shame were here. Destiny's been my go to for 10 years, but here we are.
I’m going to watch all your video mate but I will comment now and say if the game keeps heading in this direction it’s fucked. I’ve been here since its inception (9,000+ hours) and stuck with it through thick and thin, the good times and the bad times and I can honestly say I’ve never seen a game regress so hard. It feels like we’re playing a beta again after all these years.
Troubling times ahead for sure.
Having spent thousands of hours in D2 it pains me to see it at the state it is in, but to be honest I stopped playing many months ago. All my UA-cam subscriptions still remain as I hope to see my favorite creators branch out and play new games. There's no resurgence at this point, at least it's not wroth betting a content creator's future to find out.
On a side note, I initially hated the Z0 mission but watching you play it so many times I kind of started liking it lol. Also no way 12:20, I've always had this idea because I enjoy the Moon often, how cool it would be to have a GM difficulty patrol with some events, inspired me whilst playing Master Nightmare Hunts how more enjoyable the upped difficulty is in these patrol areas.
My king, I'm here for whatever you do with this channel!
Gm patrols would make exploring our beautiful planets more interesting make it happen!
There should be Foundry events and missions. Perfectly on theme with a faction style event. Hell it could be factions tied to foundries. It would be awesome to defend Suros from Eliksni pirates!
Foundry as in weapon types like hakke vs Omolon?
There was dead orbit themed missions in D1 take n king and tbh they were rather good. Yeah be awesome I agree pal
I’m in the camp that it’s not the dawning’s fault people have dipped but other games are now availible to get addicted to. The answer seasonal events is they should always be new and fresh to keep people engaged. The type of player who enjoys running the same activities for years is nitche.
They keep expecting the player base to revert back to the core activities and engage with them for ‘content’ but for players who’ve played for a long time there’s only so many maps you can replay that aren’t boring you to death after the 3,000th time you’ve been on it.
Total lack of creativity and innovation and the cracks are opening up and starting to show now.
PoE2 is here and it’s a blast.
10 year destiny veteran here. I quit playing after I completed all final shape activities on all 3 characters. The seasonal activities and the guns and gear in these seasons is not worth my time. I was excited for prison of elders returning. But they ruined it with the guns. I went to warframe 4 months ago. So did my clan. We love it. Haven’t played destiny since. Don’t plan on buying the new destiny dlc either. I have no faith the current studio will deliver something worth my time. Warframe and its developers definitely care about their players. It’s a different story at warframe. There’s huge numbers of destiny players there. So unless bungie surprises me with something awesome. I’m done either way destiny.
I couldn't be bothered to even get all the stuff on one character 😅
Haven't played D2 in over 4 weeks now. Usually the thing I look forward to most every season are the GMs, but I couldn't be arsed to do them this season.
The game just feels like it's moving so slow compared to other actual free to play games. It's strange since Bungie has so much talent money behind them, yet the quality and amount of content they put out is just not enough, keeps getting less and less while the prices get higher and higher.
Destiny's one of my favorite games, so I hate to see how terrible it is compared to its competitors.
Your content is definitely unique. I hope.things pick up.
I really like your analogies and comparisons Chablo. Proper British banter! One of the reasons I watch you over other amazing D2 players. You are entertaining as fuck man keep being yourself!
I appreciate your work for destiny. When we would do gms snd dungeons. We would always discuss your builds tactics and videos because you always have fantastic guides. They are a big help. So thankyou. I appreciate your hard work. You are better than the big content creators in my view. So I hope you don’t stop making content. Whatever content you do make for games.
Who your clan does?
That's pretty wild i loved it. Thanks for sharing appreciate you 👍👍🥳
@ yup. We view it like this. If chablo is completing gms or dungeons solo using certain builds. Then it has shown us that when we mimic your build in a 3 or two man fireteam. It’s then much much easier to dominate the activity. We always do low man raid farming 2 or 3 man raid activity raids and often 2 man gms. So when we use your build tips or just plainly copy them. It’s a breeze. We always would say .. what does chablo say to use for this. When a new GM is in the refresh. That was our mindset with the destiny endgame content. We will come back if bungie puts something out worth playing. But other than the stasis rocket sidearm. Theres nothing worth my time. Even that. Bungie will give it away in the future anyway. I hate it when they do stuff like that. Giving exotic class items for even people that never did duality. Really chapped my ass. We grinded and grinded for our class items. Then they give them away for candy. Like really? This kind of stuff really turns us off. But we love your work. So thankyou.
I've been investing stocks for 30 years and if there is a Destiny2 stock I would have sold it a year ago. No new feature is going to bring it back to Witch Queen popularity and quality. My words are a waste as you can easily see the play count graph on Steam.
A company whose founder and smartest engineers are lost will not create new and innovative products. We all know about it. We just need to move on. The exodus happened long ago. All content creators need to adjust their content strategy like how you strategize your load out for a GM.
You're extremely skilled and there are plenty of challenging games that will highlight your flawless plays. I hope that you succeed in diversifying and those of us who recognize your name and skill will continue to support you.
From my perspective here several points why game is dying:
1) Constant bugs which fixes long time or even doesn't fixes at all.
2) Cheaters, cheaters are everywhere in pve in pvp, and they like for years if someone gets banned it's because he's hard cheater.
3) All seasonal activities are the same without anything new, battlegrounds or onslaught it's nothing wow, fresh or intriguing.
4) Rewards, game now just doesn't value your time, when they cancel crafting and add this tonic system with bugs that you need to leave in this activities to get smth it's just crazy. Also here can add weapons which most in case are sucks and you in niddle where need to grind to get a loot but loot is meh that you don't want to do it.
5) Bungie and their attitude towards players, well here is clear that Bungie in most doesn't care of player base cause each their decision making just worse, game with bugs, not working content which taking ages to fix but if its noney they done eith it in hours(sometimes even in minutes).
How right down DMG that Bu gir lost trust, but thing that this trust was lost long ago, when they delete all of the content, when they make Lightfall, when they announced episodes and telling that it's something unbelievable in depth and longer lasting that seasons and thats why there be 3 of them not 4, but in reality it's lie and there no depth, this length of episode building on waiting between acts, there constant problems with quality.
This game has sooo much problems, sometimes i think Destiny has problems more than in any other game.
I was watching DE stream when they talking about 1999 update and that if you a new player you don't need to rush to making all of quests to get open it cause this and other won't be deleted.
Well, sry for to long essay and if here mistakes cause it's not my native language.
Where can I throw you some cash on UA-cam? I know you can do it during live events, but how/where do you go to sign up for premium access? We will keep the lights on!
So I'm getting Patreon next week. I have youtube memberships also. So i offer a discord server for free and a private server for patreon or youtube memberships thats prioritized for Q and A D2 solo end game advices . 5 quid a month. That's what I'm advertising atm. I will be doing live premieres this week also. I don't need cash so much. I need more members to maintain the channel's weight. That's why I'm doing these memberships. Thanks for enquiring sir 😎👍
To join YT memberships click on the join tab below my video. This will present you with the options sir 👍
Haunted Forest, world tiers and a reset of the game as well as bringing back factions...somebody over there at Bungo needs to be taking notes! And the thing with the factions is still somewhat unresolved since we got the skimmer from Lysander of the Concordat. When is that, if ever, will be bought to light? Really looking forward to a follow up video about your ideas of a reset. I'm here for this!
I generally skip the seasonal stuff to catch up with other games. I really dislike any light, comical, weird gimmick in Destiny- even stuff not Seasonal but Story related. I like the dark, dangerous stuff- that makes me want to play
Will continue to support the channel and look into the discord options 👍
I’m gonna play Destiny no matter what. It’s the main game I enjoy playing solo and I’ll probably always play it. I’ve played since D1 Beta and I’m just not going anywhere. I enjoy your content and I’ll watch whatever Destiny content you make. I enjoy your perspective, honesty and expertise. I’d personally love to see you branch into more variety of content for Destiny. I’d like weapon reviews, guides, etc. I think you’d be good at it, but I understand if you don’t feel comfortable making that type of content. As I said, I’ll watch whatever Destiny content you post.
So crafting videos were a a favourite style of video of mine I used to make. Since the debate between RNG vs Crafting I have stepped away from it a little bit. Crafting videos or weapon revies are basically very easy to make. For reference a hard solo GM or dungeon is probably triple the amount of work. Cheers sir :)
@@Chablo91 I'd lover to see your expertise on weapons.
I’ve been saying for years just give me strikes. Spending time doing seasonal events is crapola. I know it might sound boring to some, but furthering the story through missions and strikes (that we can do masters, grandmasters) are what I’ve wanted. Because I know when we’re in the dog days we can still do things. Ability spam making my weapons worthless is a big part, but mostly just discardable content being pushed out instead of core game things like strikes, crucible maps etc.
These seasonal events are like you say, copy and paste. Not worth the effort for long time players. Them being buggy is the poop icing on the cake.
Chilled to the bone. If you know you know ✌🏻 Cheers Chablo, you're a good dude 🎄☃️❄️
even me who was enjoying the game, them disabling the literal progression path for dawwning that it broke everything felt so horrible. At least they just unlocked everything that broke. But like, that was so shty?
Ever since I hit the pinnacle on all three characters (2010), I lost interest in playing. Even though I've gotten two fair judgment rifles by maxing out crucible and gambit and i'm at level 13 on vanguard, but I don't feel like putting the effort in to get those final 3 levels. But, I try to play Starfield on XBox, and I find that bugs and freezes there with the game make me decide to watch movies and read books instead. I am an older person (mid 40s), and if I am losing interest in gaming in general, that's a bridge I don't want to cross just yet
You are truly unique man and I hope you can ride out the inevitable chop that this game is going to see (again) and come out the other side stronger and with more reach. You should be eating most channels 3 or 4 times your size for lunch and I hope you get there sooner than later. Crack on mate and I'll see you in that shiny new Discord spot you made.
The final shape was a good send off. Its ok to let go, nothing lasts forever.
Even when i wasn't playing destiny you were the only content creator i would still watch because i love your content, as i always say keep up the good work Lord Chablo
I H8 Seasonal Events With a Passion..... Ridiculous Grind
I like all your videos even though I have stopped playing Destiny. I will always watch you channel no matter the game you stream.
So what do you play now. Thank you bro means alot 👍👍
@Chablo91 I play ASA it's ok, not a shoot. Haven't found something to play like destiny. I couldn't justify the money for destiny for just the same rehash a grind.
Maybe if they didn't fire like half they're staff it wouldn't be like this and we would have richer content.
Chablo I’ve always been a fan of your style and videos. That said, I’ve dumped D2 after 10 years and it’s been refreshing. I don’t believe that it’s a good approach to die on the D2 hill. Truth is the players cared more about the game than Bungie ever did. With the announcement of no D3 in the works, this broken patchwork content isn’t going to bring people back. I know branching out can be tough but I really feel like your style of presentation would translate well to other games outside of D2.
I have read your comment in full. Thank you bro 👍 What games you have in mind. I did make TFD videos but they didnt really work
@@Chablo91 I’m not just saying this because it’s the hot game right now but PoE2 has an unbelievable amount of content and is only in early access. Again, I’m not sure if that’s your cup of tea but you can play completely solo and the build variety is insane. To be clear, it’s not Destiny but content keeps channels alive. PoE 1 has a solid player base and has been going for 10 years. PoE 2 has been much more positively received.
Love the content. I don’t know how much 1 person helps…when you made that moth keeper build I felt like I interacted with a celebrity
Your like the Sean Connery of D2
Anyways you have my loyalty
When someone makes a comment like yours that has weight to it I am more likely to use their idea in a run. That was great that mate yeah loved it thank you appreciate ya :)
I'm sorry mate, but the reason seasonal events are so boring and bland nowadays is because they see the player metric. Why bother doing massive changes when Bungie knows that people will play these same old events year after year. A majority of people need to stop playing D2 if they want to see any real change imo.
Vote with your wallet guardians. vote with your time absolutely I don't disagree. I'm just letting you know where I stand this month how I feel about it simply
Yes! Just. Stop. Playing. The game will never rise from shit without giving Bungie a reason.
@@BentlyYurkin Bungie got very loyal whales which are throwing money in Bungie no matter what.
Someone being completely unaware of being this wrong is painful to watch 😂😂😂
@@TheManOfTheHourEveryHour wrong how?
We all need to just come to grips with reality. They said from the beginning, Destiny was a 10 year plan. The heart and soul has been fired from this game and it's now just a place holder for ppl that can't let go.
Until the money that is spent on evervese, and empty calorie DLC dried up they will keep pumping out recycled, mindless, thoughtless, boring, bug filled busy work trash.
It was fun while it lasted.
You’re right. I did The First Descendant thing and now I’m on Act 3 of PoE2. Destiny 2 is on the ice for now…..
How is TFD season 2?
@@Chablo91 No TFD season 2 at all. Too much Diablo 4 followed by PoE for my own good😅
@@Chablo91 TFD is fast food of the looter shooter genre. The game has little skill involved (compared to D2) and it's very much like an MMORPG where your time spent grinding determines how well you'll beat a boss. It's not the type of game for you as it won't highlight your strengths. A boss can be impossible and then when you have the right build it'll die in 8 seconds. They didn't build this game for the long haul, at least not for now.
what shader have you got on the machine gun?
It’s not you Chablo. Destiny has been put out to pasture with a skeleton crew just to keep it going for the straggler market. Those people that decide to try it for the first time. I have been through this with another game and it’s picture perfect replay to what I lived through with Division! Destiny 2 will always be here moving forward but only for those that enjoy playing the same maps and content over and over.
D2 been feeling so stale even though technically it has most the content I used to love playing. Honestly I thought Pantheon was like peak all time for me because it made me play raid encounters I never had before and it had great rewards, then final shape was good in terms of prismatic class/weapons but lacking in replayable content. 100% agree on seasonal events sucking hard (the pass or whatever you can buy for those makes me want to uninstall the game). Discovered your channel through your amazing solo flawless dungeon content. Concluding: I'll watch your content no matter what game you play as long as you bring your unique perspective that has always brought more true value than other channels. You're too good to give up man, just find a game that provides you the personal entertainment that justifies you making videos on it! I know D2 is really your biggest hobby, but maybe eventually you'll be just as into something else.
The standards of the game industry got so high, mobile games are literally getting better than AAA games from "big studios", like WHY THE HECK RISING LOOKS BETTER THAN D2??!!
2025 is also GIGA STACKED with amazing games too
For me I'm kind of pre-holiday work grinding so not much time for any games. I had my Playstation on a few nights ago and I was about to play but I ended up just watching a movie instead. There's just not much to do in D2 right now and the prison of elders seasonal activity isn't very fun. I enjoyed the coil when it was out but this season's content just isn't drawing me in.
I also noticed que times to do anything are really long. I go to play in crucible or do the seasonal stuff and I just sit there, or I get put into an in-progress thing after sitting there waiting for 5 mins. That sort of thing is just wasting my time.
The fact that my clan is dead and my friends list is barren isn't helping either. It just feels lonely out there...
What up chablo, still want to support but can't take another year of baking cookies. At this point I don't even care what the loot is anymore. TFD has been filling in the gap. Shooting and movement is not as good but the devs cares, there's always new content and builds actually matter there.
I quit just before the new year stuff switch to warframe and it's fun for me getting all the stuff there done. This recent update has been very enjoyable. I can not see going back to d2 no matter what they do. An would be sad if you stop but you have to do what's best for you. When you post Warframe it's s gurrented view from me😊
I’m afraid it’s going to be much worse going forward. I still play most every day but I can’t wait for another game to come along and lock me in. I will drop Destiny so fast 💨
Started PoE 2, haven't touched D2 since. Will be back for the new exotic mission and dungeon, but once Monster Hunter Wilds comes out, D2 goes on the shelf. Heresy needs to clap cheeks and hard, otherwise the game will legit die off completely. 3 episodes ranging from mid to bad is not something people will be able to swallow. If Heresy is not good, Code Apollo stands no chance. Dead on arrival.
Everything you say is absolutely correct
Don't forget Onslaught 2 seasons running absolute garbage on bungies behalf
Game has been going down hill for a while. Watch that steam-chart concurrent player continue to drop if they don’t change course. From recent power level increase, no crafting for new seasonal weapons, to long tedious SE raid traversal, repetitive dungeon mechanic, inverted strike rework… Game is designed to disrespect ur time
Arhh you watch the steam chart Thank you for agreeing with me on that the numbers are very low for steam.
that is the key for me "Game is designed to disrespect ur time". When I saw that such was the case I stopped playing, may be 2 + years ago, cannot remember. The grind had become stupid. Bungie was and is insulting players.
Marvel Rivals has COMPLETELY destroyed my desire to play Destiny, and I've been playing since the beginning.
“Destiny died with the witness”
I read that a couple of months ago and it rings true, destiny was a blast but I’m happy to have stopped playing now, it was a nice finale.
Hope to see you playing some new games and getting some more traction here on UA-cam.
i feel for this, I’ve been playing less and less as time goes on. ive got all the rolls of weapons I want from the seasonal content, already done solo flawless dungeon, got the title and got the weapons I want (mainly the gls) and the event is just, not as fun as it was in the past, ill probably gild my title and then call it from there. not to mention all the bugs and everything making the game in the most broken state it’s ever been.
you can tell the game is on life support; and bungo gambling everything on marathon instead of their cashcow really shows. i don’t think ill stick around past heresy, unless frontiers is something amazing and revolutionary (which judging from everything they’ve said, im not sure how to feel), ill probably be looking for a new game to play. sad because, i love destiny but it’s shit like this that really makes it hard to enjoy it when there’s so much that happens because bungo can’t get priorities straight.
Not watched it all as im at work but will catch up in the morning but i know what youre saying. Played from day one, done everything, help so many people, 12k hours in. There's not enough room to state what is wrong and what has changed for the bad. The game is a mess. I dont play any other games apart from 1 other and I haven't played that in a while. I keep coming back to this because I keep hoping it gets better and still help people I try to do what will benefit them. To be honest I've never had fun in this game when recluse and mountain top I grinded for *not a pvp person * and some of the past seasons. It's all just gone wrong.... but I have the memories of a shit hot game.
And festival of the lost actually had a seal that worked.... unlike FlameKeeper, Champ, and Star Baker.
i regret spending money on final shape
I would agree for the seasonal content yes. TFS itself was good its the seasonal model afterwards thats not good.
Great idea! I'm down with it. Some Creator's discords are dead so send me an invite.
I think the discord invite link isn't working; it comes up as a link to an "unkown" discord channel instead of a server invite
I'll check it again. Or just type the name in discord. Man i have not used discord in years
Edit:
discord.gg/fZQBctAV
I am (was?) a pvp player. I haven't set foot on pvp in more than a month other than some private matches with friends. At any other time in D2s lifespan i would have been grinding the shit out of the comp and seasonal shotguns. Now I'm watching my comp rank descending every week and I don't care. This is coming from a guy hows be ascendant solo every season up until now. It's just too much, everything it's too much. Pve it's whatever, fine for some some hours here and there but that's not the Destiny I fell in love with.
Marathons succes will decide D2s fate for Bungo. And even if it fails (wich probably will) Bungie and D2 migth be too dead to even attemp some kind of comeback
This game has so mush time spent on research and development for the wrong things. Think of how much time was wasted developing this game for the ships sparrows paid armor and ghosts. The whole tonic system was a waste of time. They spent all that time making a whole new tower for us to mix potions, For 3 Acts. They develop and R&D for the free to play vs the actual community that regularly plays the game.
hey man, whatever you decide to do, I'm along for the ride. have you thought about doing gm runs with people? you wouldn't need to be on comms, and maybe run them with a buddy who you've developed some sort of groove with. there are few duos on lfg with a title like "come guild your conqueror" and honestly, it is a pleasure to tackle a hard gm with people who enjoy playing. just a thought. I could see you and tizz pulling from your discord for a few hours, and running members through gms who aren't able to find team mates. obv huge time diff, but that sort of thing
We had factions at the launch and they just ignored it and pretended like it never existed
Factions and Flashpoint. The proper Destiny. Doing a public event and waiting for a big turd to turn up that was a pain to deal with as everyone buggered off. Especially in the Sunken Isles as I can remember a big Fallen Boss spawning. And Flashpoints on Mercury witch had loads of yellow bars.
It's sad that time has gone
Playing hell divers at the mo, completed the dawning event, locked out all Eva’s upgrades, still can’t get extra perks in column 3/4, this is after the patch, so why bother if I’m not getting correct awards.
What the game needs is new players. The game is too complicated. We did not need more activities like weapon and potion crafting that need to be figured out and slow down the game play loop. We need new people to help. They can revitalize the game. Begging your old players to come back or stay is never a good idea. It is a bad look for the game. This is an amazing game but all the complaints scare off new players. I introduce people to this game in my work and they all love it. They would not love it if they didn't have a guide to help them find the good content because it takes knowledge to find it. Play with new folks. See what they like and help them. You might find yourself enjoying the game more.
Been with the game since D1, the tonics pretty much finished my patience this season...I mean really??
Sorry man, I haven't played in a long time nor watched any D2 videos. Sometimes I miss it, then I think why I stopped playing.
Aside from the state of the game as I see it, I can no longer support Bungie - they are a fucked up, woke, stupid company and that started before Sony took over.
I still am signed up :) And still think you are really one of the absolute best D2 content creators in the game. I think it's sad that lesser creators have more subs. You do really good work here, and taught me more about how to play the game than anyone else, or should I say all of them. Plus you have great ideas (Dead Orbit member here lol).
Anyway, thought I should swing by, say hi and wish you not only success, but Merry Christmas too!
You are a member there is a exclusive post for you just letting you know about the membership edits. Merry Christmas mate thank you for all the support over the years :0
I’m so confused. The intro, first seconds, are from Frenziii’s channel? 🧐
The guy has the same template probably I don't know him. I got my template off a talented creator with his permission. I cannot control every body else on what they do. Since my intro has my logo then it is therefore a different intro
The Witness should of won. Bungie should of made D3 as a prequal. I think it would of been interesting and challenging to not yet have the Guardian powers. Pure gun play/survival and gadget development.
I don't think Bungie's plan to try and keep d2 rolling will continue to engage the player base....they need to bite the bullet and start again, new engine, new direction...move on Bungo...
I vote with my playing time.. took a year off last year because of the games state... Am back on break again cos of the refusal to put anything decent in the game... Episode 2 (acts one and 2) there should be a class action law suit for high way robbery this game studio is rinsing everyone's money and giving us broken buggy content and then refuse to fix it.. unless it effects there money.. (look at dawning card)
They just refuse to help the player base... Or the game in general to prosper... I log in look at the spaceship and log out and go play a real game I'll have some actual fun playing or do different activities that don't involve destiny the toxic raid community or toxic PvP community
The community is overally toxic and the game is stale..
The dev steam for episode 2 they was patting them self's in the back for creating the tonic system... Well it's broken bugged and don't work
How about you resign from your technology job and give it to someone who actually loves the game and wants it to be better
Either way I don't care anymore like Ivan drago said if it dies it dies I ain't sticking around no more
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Damn lol, i dont even know you are
i only logged in for the seasonal stuff. the rest of the game is what turned to shite
For me the game is way too greedy though and that's why the Phone games are just way better than it is
There has always been lows with Destiny. Every season UA-camrs talk about it, this has been happening for 10 plus years. New content comes out and all streamers are happy, a month later most casuals move on.
Its the scandals and politics. This has to be the worst time since 2017. I've seen everything It's a culmination of bad stuff since lightfall. Ppl are boycotting D2
I tried First Descendant....meh.
There's so many new lights out there that need help and are grateful for veterans helping them.
They don't know what to do with cookie stuff.
More exotic missions!
Maybe Guardian games should be helping new lights?
Pantheon? With armor rewards?
Yet, sadly, it was the Creators in twitch who wrecked the game. I have no sympathy! Do not bite the hand that feeds you!
Why I stay with you, mate.
The last 2 seasons were spectacular. Episodes not so much.