Thank you for finally talking about building around the activity. I use ftf a lot for gms where I usually end up carrying people because they bring in builds that just do not work for the activity. I don't get how they see what they're using and think "hmm yes wicked implement will do super well in fallen saber." I do genuinely think people will see an unnamed youtuber upload a build showcased in seasonal content and immediately think it will work perfectly in gms. Really appreciate you finally calling those build videos out.
same here, ran inverted spire GM and had almost 300 kills, its crazy how people think like this. and then complain when their is no DIM link or the build does not work for them.
he is ridiculously skilled. Arman GT told me about him ages ago when he was under a thousand subs and I watched him do Glassway GM on void titan and it was beautiful to watch. Master of the game
Two great exponents of the game having a chit chat. Cool to see, not often this happens as egos get in the way. Do a run together with different builds for a specific GM, that would be worth watching 😎👌
You guys are on another level. I have a hard enough time remembering a damage rotation for my one build I use all the time. I love how you talked through this strategy, regardless of my terrible play style. This was such a good breakdown of intent. I'd love to see more videos like this explaining the thought process.
You and Chablo are the only ones I watch nowadays… removed all the others I was subbed too. You guys are here to actually help the community, not monetize a 1 minute video to an 18 minute video *cough Kackis* Such solid content creators, love watching all your vids!
Guy deserves it, honestly. His build showcases are often just mid, paint by number affairs that he never really puts in content that would actually challenge the build. He also doesn't seem to solo that much and having teammates can make most builds look powerful when not scrutinized.
Mactics really did used to put out good work. His Omni build was a gamechanger back in the day, but nowadays most of his content is geared towards new players
Very true. Sometimes you need DPS and sometimes you need survivability. You need to know which damage resist mods are helpful in an encounter and which type of combatants you will be facing. The other day I went into The Arms Dealer GM with a group from fireteam finder and this kid tried to Leroy Jenkins his way through the first several series of barrier champs. He quickly used up all our revives. You have to know what you are up against and tailor your build and approach accordingly.
First comment!! You’ve helped me understand build crafting! So thank you so much!! I was able to build a load out for final boss on salvations edge to be optimized for the team I was running with we had 3 people keep dying during damage phase and I know everyone says use whisper or something else but I needed to be able to put a healing turret and well so we didn’t need to move so I thought about using Xenophage and did 4mil but the other 3 people that kept dying were able to do 3mil each when before they were doing 1mil. While I know that’s not crazy damage but it was enough to beat the boss, but that’s not something you can look up a UA-cam video on. So literally you’re teaching us how to fish
The ancient proverb of “if it’s stupid, but works then it isn’t stupid” if you find something that can consistently work for you situation who cares how not-meta/absurd it is.
@@ryanqube9132it’s for people that don’t normally run them lmao. You think that dude is spending nearly that amount of time in there on majority runs? No. Quit with the hate.
@@AllAboutSports11 who is hating? he is literally one of the highest completion sherpas in multiple GMs. I poke at how he always put "easy" in the title in spite of spending half an hour or even more after wiping to make the guide.
@@ryanqube9132 brother who told you he is one of the highest completion sherpas? Mactics was around for a quick minute before jumping ship to Warframe. If you want a good idea of his mindset as a player, look no further than his Commemoration god roll video (might be a short, idr).
Thank you for this! The build breakdown in this is awesome and definitely needed, but the fact you brought up building around the activity is huge!! I see so many people including some of my friends just use a build for everything.
I can't tell you how many loadouts I have for every kind of activity. GMs, raids, dungeons, strikes, seasonal content, patrol, crucible. They're all situational, and knowing this is so important.
W breakdown, I’ve known everything u mentioned in the video with every detail for a while now, but I still watched the entire thing bc I’m passionate in topics like these. I’m currently trying to get a sub 30 solo flawless vesper, but it’s hard. I hope u continue to make content like this, because very few people in the high end community do breakdowns of loadouts with moving parts.
I don’t know about other people, but I really like this kinda of video, even better than solo gms. I play titan only these days, and half of your videos I don’t end up watching (despite loving your content). These videos are more applicable for everyone, informative and seem to take less time than your solo gms which you wanted. Keep it up!
For me, in-game loadouts seem more useful for pvp than pve. Pve, it's rare that I have a saved up loadout and not change anything. Other than that I always change something depending on what I'm doing. Meanwhile raids and dungeons I have to make multiple loadouts for different encounters AND dps phases...
@@ianmills6260This. I have basic load outs ready to go. So last night in Salvation's Edge when we go from the 4th to the final encounter I can make one click to instantly go to Well warlock with Speakers Sight and all the appropriate fragments and mods are there. Saves a ton of time. Then I can make one or two changes and we are ready to go.
your right 29,000% exactly right about you and chablo and its why I follow y'all 🙂👍 y'all breakdown stuff, explain stuff and dont ever sugarcoat stuff (just like me) yall tell it like it is👍👍👍👍 I've learned a lot from y'all 2 and do alot of GM's and when my buddies I run with talk about why this of that build dont work. I'm always saying man you have to make your build around the activity were going into..I'm preaching that to my buddies all the tyme 😉
Been watching the dudes channel. Absolute Monster. Edit, you raise a huge point, you can't just slap that build on and expect to perform anything like that anywhere
Agree with this. One of the things that bugs me about Destiny 2 is the champions. Many times doing GM Nightfalls I want to run a certain selection of weapons but there's champions so I cant and I end up pretty much running the same three weapons on all three classes. I just dislike how champions limit loadouts. The change where some abilities can deal with champs is a help but it's still not ideal.
I feel so much better knowing other people use Fonts and not mixing them with the yellow ones that take all your charges. Great video tiz,, you sound so much more chilled 👍
This might be a bit of a hot take but people act like buildcrafting in this game is like a science, it's really not. It's as simple as put a few things on, an exotic, the same aspects and fragments you'd use in general play and then you're done. Remnant 2, Outriders, Warframe, those are all games with meaningful buildcrafting in my opinion
@@tylerherdman1755 I mean it feels more dynamic and meaningful, you spend a lot of time getting to that point of your build being complete and I feel like there’s more room for creativity compared to Destiny
This is generally why I prefer to build around a playstyle/concept, even if it takes more phases to down a boss. I just have more fun when there's more room for error and I'm not pulling my hair out if I mess up the execution and end up "extending" the fight longer as a result. Probably why I gravitate to Combination Blow Invis spam since it makes surviving for long periods a lot more manageable, but missions/encounters with timers are my bane.
Your original build video inspired me todo my own build going to try a spirit of abeyant and and horn for add control /transended energy I already have an idea what aspects i want to use i have to get the mark and i can start making the build thank you for the great videos.
Good video and the breakdown of that build really can help people understand. Add clear and such is so much different than DPS that people need to understand if you’re trying to be somewhat optimal that you should have two load-outs. Weapon surges don’t matter at all outside of boss DPS and vise versa if you’re running special finisher or something outside of boss DPS. You could go further in the explanation a little bit two (I think your didn’t say them but I might have missed it… and I know you know why they’re this way). There’s a very specific reason for using a high ammo special weapon in the primary slot and that’s so there is the most ammo when you switch to another special weapon. Some people won’t realize if you had a primary you’ll have no ammo when switching. The other being the reason why the font is so useful is two fold… one being this specific damage phase is so long that cooldown on super can be relevant. The other being if people look at the certain caps, his super was at a low point where those couple of stat tiers probably gave him almost 3 minute faster cooldown on super. If he was already at tier 5 then that regen from font probably would not of been useful because he would have only gotten a little over a minute from it. I could ramble but the video did a good job. People should learn to think for themselves and learn to build (because it really isn’t that complicated in this game) to what works well and well for them. Plug and play doesn’t always work… and people should read each mod because some of them really aren’t worth running most of the time.
Thank you, Tizzle. I'm using a similar boss damage load as Suutekk, but I didn't think about using 3 time dilation mods. I'll give that a try and see how it helps my current boss load out. 🍻
1 thing I don’t think was mentioned in the vid is: whenever you’re build crafting you should ALWAYS check what seasonal artefact mods are available and think which will be beneficial depending on the encounter/situation you’re building for!
Havent finished the video yet but im glad you called out the young ahamkara spine clickbaiters. YAS is just a worse version of any hunter in their transcendence. And with spirit of inmost light you can lean even more into the ability spam even outside of transcendence
great video. swapping mods between phases of an encounter is a rarity for me. mostly damage on bosses in raids. locked load outs in gms is a nicety in the sense that it is one less thing to think about
This is a great first step in educating people like me know their build, but let’s get real, it’s insanely hard to know all the terminology, I may hear all the reasons your saying why this mod & why this gun etc etc but it very quickly turns into information overload, it quickly becomes way too much to take in, it seems easy to those that know, but it’s too much for me to remember. I pick up bits & pieces but each build might be so different it’s like learning another language every time! We all get a build works well if we have to right weapons & mods, but the combinations & what they trigger is simply too much for me too remember so I do end up grabbing a dim link & spending an hour to tailor it to fit the armour & gear I actually have, it takes so long your past trying to know how it’s working you just want to load into a dam mission. Tizzle if you can work out some kind of much easier to understand lessons that take us step by step it would be a miracle, this video is great but it’s still you listing off a huge list of this that & the other to try & remember, it’s like trying to remember a jigsaw blind folded.
Building around the content is a must. You absolutely have to change everything around, you can keep the base of the build , but usually need to swap armor mods, artifact mod, and weapons for surges .
(Sorry for the late comment) IMO consecration is probably the hardest build I’ve ever played. It’s really easy to pick up and do okay with it, but it’s absurdly hard to play the build perfectly. It’s taken me a few hundred hours worth of content for me to comfortably say that I’m good at it. Also, I don’t really blame the people that aren’t as good at the game for just taking a build and running with it. (I know I sure did when I started)
This reminded me of being on an Onslaught team. We got blinded by some exploder units that spawned right on top of us. And here’s our teammate, with two shriekers, swarm of enemies, and exploders. And he’s sitting there plinking away with some kind of kinetic Bow. I don’t even know what the build was supposed to be….. at like Wave 49. Obviously, they utterly destroyed him And the bank before we could even res lol. “Build for the content.” Yes. 😅
Haha, yeah consecration titan can indeed be used almost anywhere. I feel like Inverted spire was reworked in a lot of ways to specifically slow down consecration titans: lots of exploders, lots of detainment, long sightlines with cyclops in the tank section, and broken up platform's in the first section. I wouldn't call it a success, but Bungie tried. Honestly, I think we all know that the ability just needs some kind of nerf at this point. As much as I love buildcrafting I am guilty of running a single go to build that I use for most content. This season that is primatic rime-coat with chior of one. It's a very powerful build that has an answer to almost any challenge. When I don't know what to expect or I think I can get away with it, I run that build. I ran it for inverted spire and cleared it first try with my team. With that said though I have a full page of loadouts just for specific encounters in dungeons. For liminality with oscillation I have been using a pure stasis build using revision 0. With weapon boost x3 and wisper of rending and no other buffs hunter's trace hits 575k crits on champions; it's nuts.
I agree that they tried to slow down Concercration Titan with the rework of Inverted Spire, but it's just a slight complication. If you a titan main you'll be able to still olay how youbwant based on your loadout. But why would you call for a concercration titan nerf? Seems a bit harsh don't you think...?
@@chinbusy6336 I agree that it's a bit harsh given that it's by far the most powerful thing prismatic titan has going on. I just feel like it's too hard for Bungie to design content around such an ability. It's really hard to balance melee in general in a game like Destiny. There is a very fine line between being useless and being OP; I think consecration has crossed the OP line. I don't know specifically what I would do to the ability to nerf as I haven't fleshed out those thoughts enough. I just can't see the ability existing within a healthy meta as is. There are plenty of great videos analyzing the problems with the prismatic titan kit that can largely be summed up by aspect selection lacking synergy and consecration/knockout being the only really super amazing picks (I know there are other choices here, but I don't think anything else comes close to those two). So I think any change to consecration would have to coincide with changes to the rest of the titan kit. I certainly don't want to see titans nerfed into the ground or have their prismatic kit gutted.
yes revision zero is so good with rending. And yeah totally. There are def builds that are just meta and can overcome basically anything. Rimecoat and choir are def meta. So well worth running on new content you haven't seen yet!
Hi itzTizzle. In your opinion, which are the best Hunter exotics? I Hunter main and have recently retuned to D2. I see we can now focus exotics through Rahool. I have builds for the old-school classics but I don’t think I’ve had any new exotics drop since Blight Ranger. My exotic engrams with Rahool are nearly full so I guess I should look at focusing some.
I have a question for you, but I can't find anywhere to email or send you a direct message. I was wondering if you know if the mantle of battle Harmony counteracts the oscillation modifier on gm's? I'm at work or I was just check it out for myself LOL. Liminality has been a headache
I’m wondering if you can help make a build that helps in the revision zero mission. I’m trying to solo and I don’t have prismatic unlocked all the way, so no class exotics yet.
hey so i have been out of destiny for most of this season and last is it worth me thrying to get back into destiny 2 or do i have a mountain to climb to get back to running raids and dungeons again?
See for me I don't want a fully optimized build I want something I can take into any type of content and still preform well. I have made a few builds like this but it's getting harder to do that as time goes on.
What encounter game has alot differencen. Only Thing is champions barrierer unstopperble. torment an so on. Ofc you could do supclass also but like some you dont need a build for every encounter
It was definitely better when there was a 3 different choice or mix and match system of things that functioned very differently (fonts, Warmind Cells and charged with light).
I would like to say YAS got its nerf reverted so it gets grenade energy on ability hits not kills. It’s way better then it used to be and is better if not stronger then it used to be
Good video but i have a minor disagreement about the idea that no build works in all content beyond consacration titan. There are a few builds for every class that work everywhere, for instance foetracters/Cytarachnes hunter is a truly universal build. At base it provides increased damage amd infinite wolven mail if built right with mods fragments. Its survival is unmatched with invisibility from stylish and constant wolven mail and foetraccers allows you massive damage buffs so you can do great DPS with the proper weapon loadouts. The weapons csn change based on the type of activities, though if you have a ranged weapon and a close quaters then you really dont even neee to change weapons either, but the core build works everywhere due to its simplistity.....survival and Damage......so not sure how you can say only consecration titan is a "universal build" All this being said, for most builds yes you should take the activities into account its just not correct to say only one universal build exists.
Kind of semantics here. When someone who plays the game at optimal level says “works” they mean optimal. In this game almost anything works just fine if you know how to play so you don’t die. For example, the build your talking about helps you stay alive. You do get some more weapon damage but you lock yourself into potentially sub-optimal weapons for DPS. You don’t have Radiant for an extra 25%. In most cases your super will not be able to damage boss, if it could it’s going to take your DPS down, and if you possibly needed it to panic it might have zero use for a long period of time. Also, your add clear is fine but you are not killing champs that aren’t stunned in one hit nor clearing a whole room of adds in 1.2 seconds so it’s more of a slow play. Doesn’t mean it isn’t useful or a great build to use.
@amorfati4927 hmmm i agree somewhat, however the term optimal here is also missleading. Having the "optimal" build in almost all cases is only needed for the 1% of players trying to do very difficult things like low man raids , 99% of the player base will never need an "optimal" build. Also the difference in effectiveness of a build that "works" amd a "optimal" build is often not massive skill is a bigger factor at those levels. As for you get "locked into sub optimal DPS" how? The best weapon for heavy damage is heavy GLs and varia ts of that archtype with BaS plus envious or envious arsenal exist in every element type but solar so it very easy to get very good DPS if you pair yoir abilities and weapons which is not hard as tons of possibilities exist in most all elements.....honestly not sure why you think this its objectively not true. As for the super? I am not trying to be mean but i can not tell what your trying to say. I cant damage the boss with my super? Are you meaning to say with a star eater perk to up damage any super is worthless? If that's the argument thats silly a good DPS rotation with my build a good special damage weapon a heavy gl with BS etc without star eaters will do great damage if played correctly. Sure with star eaters your damage will be better but not by a massive amount and for 99% of players 99% of the time the difference wont matter. Also the DPS gane fir hunters is very different now, with roaming super changes and certain weapon pairings you can get your super back ridiculously quick so the damage from your super will be ceazy even wothout star eaters.....I used lost signal, perfect fifth ergo sum, and chill inhibitor with this build on corrupted pupoeteer and did over 7 mill damage used my super 5 or 6 times....so yeah you can DPS very well with it.
Yeah, I think most players know the difference between a video about a build vs build crafting. I don't think anyone is taking one of those in to solo a dungeon. They are a bit click baity, but that's YT for you.
Dude pvp content is the same the only good pvp content creators are cool guy and cammy and aztecross does ok. It mostly just " this gun is insane" watch me shit on the lobby. No ceitical thought whatsoever.😢 Honorable mention for nicho. Hes great as well
Mactics builds are a scam! He users other UA-camrs builds that get posted in his discord then passes them off as his own! I don't even know how he's amassed so many subscribers! He's completely fake!
@@Thatannoyingvoicetoldyoutodoit I don’t really watch his stuff. By all means, some of his builds may be great. I just think YAS is extremely overrated but his titles and thumbnails suggest that it’s great
Thank you for finally talking about building around the activity. I use ftf a lot for gms where I usually end up carrying people because they bring in builds that just do not work for the activity. I don't get how they see what they're using and think "hmm yes wicked implement will do super well in fallen saber." I do genuinely think people will see an unnamed youtuber upload a build showcased in seasonal content and immediately think it will work perfectly in gms. Really appreciate you finally calling those build videos out.
same here, ran inverted spire GM and had almost 300 kills, its crazy how people think like this. and then complain when their is no DIM link or the build does not work for them.
It's tizzle back at it educating the masses.
Your friend suutek is a real demon player. GG on the video breaking new ground 👍
he is ridiculously skilled. Arman GT told me about him ages ago when he was under a thousand subs and I watched him do Glassway GM on void titan and it was beautiful to watch. Master of the game
Two great exponents of the game having a chit chat. Cool to see, not often this happens as egos get in the way.
Do a run together with different builds for a specific GM, that would be worth watching 😎👌
Suutek, special hero, and crew are amazing. The dual destiny speedrun is awesome too
You guys are on another level. I have a hard enough time remembering a damage rotation for my one build I use all the time. I love how you talked through this strategy, regardless of my terrible play style. This was such a good breakdown of intent. I'd love to see more videos like this explaining the thought process.
Dude you hit the nail on the head. So many people just build without thinking about the activity.
You and Chablo are the only ones I watch nowadays… removed all the others I was subbed too. You guys are here to actually help the community, not monetize a 1 minute video to an 18 minute video *cough Kackis*
Such solid content creators, love watching all your vids!
Yeah I’ve been watching Chablo for ages, it was because of him I was able to solo ghost of the deep.
Shots fired at Mactics
Guy deserves it, honestly. His build showcases are often just mid, paint by number affairs that he never really puts in content that would actually challenge the build. He also doesn't seem to solo that much and having teammates can make most builds look powerful when not scrutinized.
Mactics really did used to put out good work. His Omni build was a gamechanger back in the day, but nowadays most of his content is geared towards new players
You mean mr Warframe punchy hunter man? I used to enjoy his content, but he isn't putting any time or thought into it.
Hardly lmao. Y’all reaching
He’s so overrated
Very true. Sometimes you need DPS and sometimes you need survivability.
You need to know which damage resist mods are helpful in an encounter and which type of combatants you will be facing.
The other day I went into The Arms Dealer GM with a group from fireteam finder and this kid tried to Leroy Jenkins his way through the first several series of barrier champs. He quickly used up all our revives. You have to know what you are up against and tailor your build and approach accordingly.
Really appreciate the callout on the clickbait builds and the importance of activity focus! Guardian has to be versatile!
First comment!! You’ve helped me understand build crafting! So thank you so much!! I was able to build a load out for final boss on salvations edge to be optimized for the team I was running with we had 3 people keep dying during damage phase and I know everyone says use whisper or something else but I needed to be able to put a healing turret and well so we didn’t need to move so I thought about using Xenophage and did 4mil but the other 3 people that kept dying were able to do 3mil each when before they were doing 1mil. While I know that’s not crazy damage but it was enough to beat the boss, but that’s not something you can look up a UA-cam video on. So literally you’re teaching us how to fish
The ancient proverb of “if it’s stupid, but works then it isn’t stupid” if you find something that can consistently work for you situation who cares how not-meta/absurd it is.
No way you spelled it damage faze and not phase
The Mactics shot noooo lol. 🤣🤣
Deserved, lol
bro really make "how to do this GM EASY" and spent an hour on a single GM💀
@@ryanqube9132it’s for people that don’t normally run them lmao. You think that dude is spending nearly that amount of time in there on majority runs? No. Quit with the hate.
@@AllAboutSports11 who is hating? he is literally one of the highest completion sherpas in multiple GMs. I poke at how he always put "easy" in the title in spite of spending half an hour or even more after wiping to make the guide.
@@ryanqube9132 brother who told you he is one of the highest completion sherpas? Mactics was around for a quick minute before jumping ship to Warframe. If you want a good idea of his mindset as a player, look no further than his Commemoration god roll video (might be a short, idr).
Thank you for this! The build breakdown in this is awesome and definitely needed, but the fact you brought up building around the activity is huge!! I see so many people including some of my friends just use a build for everything.
I can't tell you how many loadouts I have for every kind of activity. GMs, raids, dungeons, strikes, seasonal content, patrol, crucible. They're all situational, and knowing this is so important.
W breakdown, I’ve known everything u mentioned in the video with every detail for a while now, but I still watched the entire thing bc I’m passionate in topics like these. I’m currently trying to get a sub 30 solo flawless vesper, but it’s hard. I hope u continue to make content like this, because very few people in the high end community do breakdowns of loadouts with moving parts.
I don’t know about other people, but I really like this kinda of video, even better than solo gms.
I play titan only these days, and half of your videos I don’t end up watching (despite loving your content). These videos are more applicable for everyone, informative and seem to take less time than your solo gms which you wanted. Keep it up!
For me, in-game loadouts seem more useful for pvp than pve.
Pve, it's rare that I have a saved up loadout and not change anything. Other than that I always change something depending on what I'm doing. Meanwhile raids and dungeons I have to make multiple loadouts for different encounters AND dps phases...
I use loadouts as the skeleton of a build to add on depending on the activity.
@@ianmills6260This. I have basic load outs ready to go. So last night in Salvation's Edge when we go from the 4th to the final encounter I can make one click to instantly go to Well warlock with Speakers Sight and all the appropriate fragments and mods are there. Saves a ton of time. Then I can make one or two changes and we are ready to go.
your right 29,000% exactly right about you and chablo and its why I follow y'all 🙂👍 y'all breakdown stuff, explain stuff and dont ever sugarcoat stuff (just like me) yall tell it like it is👍👍👍👍 I've learned a lot from y'all 2 and do alot of GM's and when my buddies I run with talk about why this of that build dont work. I'm always saying man you have to make your build around the activity were going into..I'm preaching that to my buddies all the tyme 😉
Been watching the dudes channel. Absolute Monster.
Edit, you raise a huge point, you can't just slap that build on and expect to perform anything like that anywhere
Agree with this. One of the things that bugs me about Destiny 2 is the champions. Many times doing GM Nightfalls I want to run a certain selection of weapons but there's champions so I cant and I end up pretty much running the same three weapons on all three classes. I just dislike how champions limit loadouts. The change where some abilities can deal with champs is a help but it's still not ideal.
I feel so much better knowing other people use Fonts and not mixing them with the yellow ones that take all your charges.
Great video tiz,, you sound so much more chilled 👍
Suutek & Chablo some goats, this has to be your best video yet!!
This might be a bit of a hot take but people act like buildcrafting in this game is like a science, it's really not. It's as simple as put a few things on, an exotic, the same aspects and fragments you'd use in general play and then you're done. Remnant 2, Outriders, Warframe, those are all games with meaningful buildcrafting in my opinion
Outriders mentioned
Remnant 2 is simpler than d2 to be fair but yes I agree
@@kamewoni as buggy as outriders was the build crafting was pretty enjoyable
@@tylerherdman1755 I mean it feels more dynamic and meaningful, you spend a lot of time getting to that point of your build being complete and I feel like there’s more room for creativity compared to Destiny
@ true true, definitely more customizable and what not. I get what you are saying now.
This is generally why I prefer to build around a playstyle/concept, even if it takes more phases to down a boss. I just have more fun when there's more room for error and I'm not pulling my hair out if I mess up the execution and end up "extending" the fight longer as a result. Probably why I gravitate to Combination Blow Invis spam since it makes surviving for long periods a lot more manageable, but missions/encounters with timers are my bane.
Your original build video inspired me todo my own build going to try a spirit of abeyant and and horn for add control /transended energy I already have an idea what aspects i want to use i have to get the mark and i can start making the build thank you for the great videos.
Probably better for pvp that class item
you can actually run that class armor even in pvp and troll people around corners. It's absolutely hilarious
Good video and the breakdown of that build really can help people understand.
Add clear and such is so much different than DPS that people need to understand if you’re trying to be somewhat optimal that you should have two load-outs. Weapon surges don’t matter at all outside of boss DPS and vise versa if you’re running special finisher or something outside of boss DPS.
You could go further in the explanation a little bit two (I think your didn’t say them but I might have missed it… and I know you know why they’re this way). There’s a very specific reason for using a high ammo special weapon in the primary slot and that’s so there is the most ammo when you switch to another special weapon. Some people won’t realize if you had a primary you’ll have no ammo when switching. The other being the reason why the font is so useful is two fold… one being this specific damage phase is so long that cooldown on super can be relevant. The other being if people look at the certain caps, his super was at a low point where those couple of stat tiers probably gave him almost 3 minute faster cooldown on super. If he was already at tier 5 then that regen from font probably would not of been useful because he would have only gotten a little over a minute from it.
I could ramble but the video did a good job. People should learn to think for themselves and learn to build (because it really isn’t that complicated in this game) to what works well and well for them. Plug and play doesn’t always work… and people should read each mod because some of them really aren’t worth running most of the time.
Love you tizzle. Best D2 content. Will watch every video of yours for as long as you’re making them.
thank you!
Thank you, Tizzle. I'm using a similar boss damage load as Suutekk, but I didn't think about using 3 time dilation mods. I'll give that a try and see how it helps my current boss load out. 🍻
1 thing I don’t think was mentioned in the vid is: whenever you’re build crafting you should ALWAYS check what seasonal artefact mods are available and think which will be beneficial depending on the encounter/situation you’re building for!
Havent finished the video yet but im glad you called out the young ahamkara spine clickbaiters. YAS is just a worse version of any hunter in their transcendence. And with spirit of inmost light you can lean even more into the ability spam even outside of transcendence
this guy with back to back great videos..
great video. swapping mods between phases of an encounter is a rarity for me. mostly damage on bosses in raids. locked load outs in gms is a nicety in the sense that it is one less thing to think about
Some of us are old, sick and tired. So we just want to log in and play. I appreciate all these builds you creators put out there 👍🏻
😅😂🎉thats why I subscribed this guy 😮😊 freakin love your material T man
This is a great first step in educating people like me know their build, but let’s get real, it’s insanely hard to know all the terminology, I may hear all the reasons your saying why this mod & why this gun etc etc but it very quickly turns into information overload, it quickly becomes way too much to take in, it seems easy to those that know, but it’s too much for me to remember. I pick up bits & pieces but each build might be so different it’s like learning another language every time! We all get a build works well if we have to right weapons & mods, but the combinations & what they trigger is simply too much for me too remember so I do end up grabbing a dim link & spending an hour to tailor it to fit the armour & gear I actually have, it takes so long your past trying to know how it’s working you just want to load into a dam mission. Tizzle if you can work out some kind of much easier to understand lessons that take us step by step it would be a miracle, this video is great but it’s still you listing off a huge list of this that & the other to try & remember, it’s like trying to remember a jigsaw blind folded.
Building around the content is a must. You absolutely have to change everything around, you can keep the base of the build , but usually need to swap armor mods, artifact mod, and weapons for surges .
Basically focusing on the active surges in each activity/ artifact changes/ armor mods / champ weapons is main thing you need to do in my opinion.
(Sorry for the late comment) IMO consecration is probably the hardest build I’ve ever played. It’s really easy to pick up and do okay with it, but it’s absurdly hard to play the build perfectly. It’s taken me a few hundred hours worth of content for me to comfortably say that I’m good at it. Also, I don’t really blame the people that aren’t as good at the game for just taking a build and running with it. (I know I sure did when I started)
Suutek is very good. Thanks for explaining what he does
This reminded me of being on an Onslaught team. We got blinded by some exploder units that spawned right on top of us. And here’s our teammate, with two shriekers, swarm of enemies, and exploders. And he’s sitting there plinking away with some kind of kinetic Bow. I don’t even know what the build was supposed to be….. at like Wave 49. Obviously, they utterly destroyed him And the bank before we could even res lol. “Build for the content.” Yes. 😅
OMG WHERES THE DIM LINK! ❤
Appreciate the videos dude!!!
Mactic's Commemoration short still haunts me to this day...
What does Tizzle mean by "CQC"? There's the CQC shotgun but that is clearly not what he's referring to.
close quarters combat
Love the shout out to chablo.
Haha, yeah consecration titan can indeed be used almost anywhere. I feel like Inverted spire was reworked in a lot of ways to specifically slow down consecration titans: lots of exploders, lots of detainment, long sightlines with cyclops in the tank section, and broken up platform's in the first section. I wouldn't call it a success, but Bungie tried. Honestly, I think we all know that the ability just needs some kind of nerf at this point.
As much as I love buildcrafting I am guilty of running a single go to build that I use for most content. This season that is primatic rime-coat with chior of one. It's a very powerful build that has an answer to almost any challenge. When I don't know what to expect or I think I can get away with it, I run that build. I ran it for inverted spire and cleared it first try with my team. With that said though I have a full page of loadouts just for specific encounters in dungeons. For liminality with oscillation I have been using a pure stasis build using revision 0. With weapon boost x3 and wisper of rending and no other buffs hunter's trace hits 575k crits on champions; it's nuts.
I agree that they tried to slow down Concercration Titan with the rework of Inverted Spire, but it's just a slight complication. If you a titan main you'll be able to still olay how youbwant based on your loadout.
But why would you call for a concercration titan nerf? Seems a bit harsh don't you think...?
@@chinbusy6336 I agree that it's a bit harsh given that it's by far the most powerful thing prismatic titan has going on. I just feel like it's too hard for Bungie to design content around such an ability. It's really hard to balance melee in general in a game like Destiny. There is a very fine line between being useless and being OP; I think consecration has crossed the OP line. I don't know specifically what I would do to the ability to nerf as I haven't fleshed out those thoughts enough. I just can't see the ability existing within a healthy meta as is. There are plenty of great videos analyzing the problems with the prismatic titan kit that can largely be summed up by aspect selection lacking synergy and consecration/knockout being the only really super amazing picks (I know there are other choices here, but I don't think anything else comes close to those two). So I think any change to consecration would have to coincide with changes to the rest of the titan kit. I certainly don't want to see titans nerfed into the ground or have their prismatic kit gutted.
yes revision zero is so good with rending. And yeah totally. There are def builds that are just meta and can overcome basically anything. Rimecoat and choir are def meta. So well worth running on new content you haven't seen yet!
Dim link?
6:35 Indebted Kindness is not Enhanceable(Unfortunately), so its just standard Surrounded(40% damage buff)
Hi itzTizzle. In your opinion, which are the best Hunter exotics?
I Hunter main and have recently retuned to D2. I see we can now focus exotics through Rahool. I have builds for the old-school classics but I don’t think I’ve had any new exotics drop since Blight Ranger. My exotic engrams with Rahool are nearly full so I guess I should look at focusing some.
I have a question for you, but I can't find anywhere to email or send you a direct message. I was wondering if you know if the mantle of battle Harmony counteracts the oscillation modifier on gm's? I'm at work or I was just check it out for myself LOL. Liminality has been a headache
Side note but that titan fashion is sick
@@evanschneider47 thanks! Fashion show coming in January haha. My blast wave striders titan is CLEAN!
I’m wondering if you can help make a build that helps in the revision zero mission. I’m trying to solo and I don’t have prismatic unlocked all the way, so no class exotics yet.
@@Neighthanyelling I have a solo flawless run on my channel. That should help
@ thanks man I’ll check it out
The Suutek armor stats are hot 🥵
hey so i have been out of destiny for most of this season and last is it worth me thrying to get back into destiny 2 or do i have a mountain to climb to get back to running raids and dungeons again?
Shots fired at mactics
“Click bait build content”
Man out here shooting like Kendrick 🔫
See for me I don't want a fully optimized build I want something I can take into any type of content and still preform well. I have made a few builds like this but it's getting harder to do that as time goes on.
You can’t enhance indebted kindness but W video
yeah I thought of that after the fact lol
Great and tellnthis to my clans mates
Finally somebody calling Mactics out on sh- builds.
My build is if it can make big boom and kill xenos it’s good enough for me
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Capri sun
apple or fruit punch
Puzzi Juice
Cranberry
apple >
"that video is almost half an hour long" so heres another almost half an hour long video lolololol
Where my DIM link at?
PEAK!
Now go give Chablo 91 a follow & subscribe and some love guys. He's another player who knows what's going on under the hud with D2 and its builds.
NEED A DIM LINK TIZZLE
Know what? The whole video you were gobling on some guy
Wut?
I just wish YAS was better :(
What encounter game has alot differencen. Only Thing is champions barrierer unstopperble. torment an so on. Ofc you could do supclass also but like some you dont need a build for every encounter
Mactics just got rekt, lol
I miss real buildcrafting before they neutered that too.
It was definitely better when there was a 3 different choice or mix and match system of things that functioned very differently (fonts, Warmind Cells and charged with light).
thing is this game is braindead easy in 98% of content, you don't need to do this so majority of player base will never need this
I would like to say YAS got its nerf reverted so it gets grenade energy on ability hits not kills. It’s way better then it used to be and is better if not stronger then it used to be
yes but the build has always been shit is the thing. I have been using it, and it is not good compared to countless other builds
I like hold crafting, but you loose me at quick swapping
Good video but i have a minor disagreement about the idea that no build works in all content beyond consacration titan. There are a few builds for every class that work everywhere, for instance foetracters/Cytarachnes hunter is a truly universal build. At base it provides increased damage amd infinite wolven mail if built right with mods fragments. Its survival is unmatched with invisibility from stylish and constant wolven mail and foetraccers allows you massive damage buffs so you can do great DPS with the proper weapon loadouts. The weapons csn change based on the type of activities, though if you have a ranged weapon and a close quaters then you really dont even neee to change weapons either, but the core build works everywhere due to its simplistity.....survival and Damage......so not sure how you can say only consecration titan is a "universal build"
All this being said, for most builds yes you should take the activities into account its just not correct to say only one universal build exists.
Kind of semantics here.
When someone who plays the game at optimal level says “works” they mean optimal.
In this game almost anything works just fine if you know how to play so you don’t die.
For example, the build your talking about helps you stay alive. You do get some more weapon damage but you lock yourself into potentially sub-optimal weapons for DPS. You don’t have Radiant for an extra 25%. In most cases your super will not be able to damage boss, if it could it’s going to take your DPS down, and if you possibly needed it to panic it might have zero use for a long period of time. Also, your add clear is fine but you are not killing champs that aren’t stunned in one hit nor clearing a whole room of adds in 1.2 seconds so it’s more of a slow play.
Doesn’t mean it isn’t useful or a great build to use.
@amorfati4927 hmmm i agree somewhat, however the term optimal here is also missleading. Having the "optimal" build in almost all cases is only needed for the 1% of players trying to do very difficult things like low man raids , 99% of the player base will never need an "optimal" build. Also the difference in effectiveness of a build that "works" amd a "optimal" build is often not massive skill is a bigger factor at those levels.
As for you get "locked into sub optimal DPS" how? The best weapon for heavy damage is heavy GLs and varia ts of that archtype with BaS plus envious or envious arsenal exist in every element type but solar so it very easy to get very good DPS if you pair yoir abilities and weapons which is not hard as tons of possibilities exist in most all elements.....honestly not sure why you think this its objectively not true.
As for the super? I am not trying to be mean but i can not tell what your trying to say. I cant damage the boss with my super? Are you meaning to say with a star eater perk to up damage any super is worthless? If that's the argument thats silly a good DPS rotation with my build a good special damage weapon a heavy gl with BS etc without star eaters will do great damage if played correctly. Sure with star eaters your damage will be better but not by a massive amount and for 99% of players 99% of the time the difference wont matter.
Also the DPS gane fir hunters is very different now, with roaming super changes and certain weapon pairings you can get your super back ridiculously quick so the damage from your super will be ceazy even wothout star eaters.....I used lost signal, perfect fifth ergo sum, and chill inhibitor with this build on corrupted pupoeteer and did over 7 mill damage used my super 5 or 6 times....so yeah you can DPS very well with it.
Idk about the Mactics shade bro…
Yeah, I think most players know the difference between a video about a build vs build crafting. I don't think anyone is taking one of those in to solo a dungeon. They are a bit click baity, but that's YT for you.
Mactics isn't the most egregious of the clickbait video makers. Plunderthabooty is the worst for me.
Dude pvp content is the same the only good pvp content creators are cool guy and cammy and aztecross does ok. It mostly just " this gun is insane" watch me shit on the lobby. No ceitical thought whatsoever.😢 Honorable mention for nicho. Hes great as well
Idk us ahamkara spines and i do just fine. But thats just me
i was here
😂😂😂
Incorrect. We don't just go to UA-cam and copy a build we search for best build for GM
You say you got a quick tip for us and then spend 20min getting your mouth all the way around this guys build. Wtf
First like, yeeeeeuah!
Not sure why you singled out Mac here but it’s your video.
Mactics builds are a scam! He users other UA-camrs builds that get posted in his discord then passes them off as his own! I don't even know how he's amassed so many subscribers! He's completely fake!
@@Thatannoyingvoicetoldyoutodoit I don’t really watch his stuff. By all means, some of his builds may be great. I just think YAS is extremely overrated but his titles and thumbnails suggest that it’s great