@@NotSoTechie-News I really wish people with the knowledge of technology would take a harder look at this. I personally think tesla was redicoving old technology that was destroyed and also kept from being made public. Some of those buildings are 1000s of years old and still standing. There is something there I just dont know what.
People that think all of those complex metal spires oriented with very specific repeating geometries on the rooftops were just there for decoration do not understand anything about electromagnetic fields or antennae.
If the carbon were in the form of graphene the tensile strength of the concrete could be greatly increased - perhaps no steel needed. Also microengineering the concrete with nano particles of silica makes UHPC (ultra high performance concrete) 10x stronger in compression than ordinary concrete. A typical home may use 10 to 30 cubic meters of concrete or only 1 to 3 kWh at 300WattHours/m^3 so the energy storage value may only account for less than a tenth the cost of the concrete...
Where can I invest @Daryloster..lol...love the idea. How would you feel if you could combine with 3d home printing techniques. Fast, strong & less materials hypothetically. I also wonder how the lower mass would potentially affect the overall building composition...🤓
@NotSoTechie-News while 3d printing is great for one-off designs, it has many limitations for construction. Insulation is not very good. I believe tilt-up insulated concrete panels are better for most construction. And I don't know much about how this (or 3d printing) would help or hurt the use of concrete capacitor tech - only guesses
@@DarylOster thanks for the response! I believe we would need a structural engineer & those who play with this tech to come up with some real world test to see if the battery concept is viable in your original concept along with all the other concerns others have raised.
Great question! From my limited understanding...yes, the integration of concrete supercapacitors could potentially create issues around electrolysis, especially concerning the steel reinforcement in concrete structures. Careful engineering and design considerations are important to prevent issues related to electrolysis and ensure the long-term durability of reinforced concrete structures.
Great question...Ideally, the building’s design would account for lightning protection, ensuring that any energy storage systems, including concrete supercapacitors, are safeguarded against such extreme events, and prevent damage to the building and its innovative energy storage components.
@@IzySly-g4h Lightning is ultra high voltage and high current DC, and some types of capacitors can absorb (or deliver) very high voltage and current for a short amount of time. I don't know if the concrete capacitor is in this category or not.
What is this, a pr stun by the concrete industry. The concrete industry produces massive amounts of C02 which gets released into the atmosphere, unfiltered in anyway.
Thanks for the Interesting reply...I don't who is paying for their research stipend, but it's true that traditionally cement production has a significant CO2 footprint. The development of carbon-cement super capacitors however could be seen as a way to offset it by integrating energy storage into building materials, thus reducing the need for separate, resource-intensive batteries. Researchers are also exploring more sustainable cement alternatives using waste materials, making this innovation a promising step toward a cleaner, more sustainable future.
They talk back and forth so much i think this is a fake, salt of some sort and two other materials makes a battery that is well known, but feels like they want to get viewingtime and show a fake
Hey @Ollerecovery...while I appreciate your comment this is based from News from MIT & the BBC. I really don't have the time or energy to try to make stuff up. As someone from the sciences...I'm just sharing something I've enjoyed my whole life.
@PacoOtis maybe...I would have never though you could build a home w/a cement 3d printer...but it's being done. I just love all the new possibilities that we'll have to wait and see what the true cost vs benefit/demand...interesting regardless. Personally, I'd love to see something like helping recharge vehicles as they are being driven...who knows...LOL Thanks for the response
Did some digging...a concrete supercapacitors developed by MIT can store up to 300 watt-hours per cubic meter, enough to power a 10-watt LED light bulb for 30 hours. Key being 300W/cubic meter. Scaling up to a 45 cubic meter installation could store about 13.5 kWh, potentially powering a house for a day. While current capacity is modest, these systems charge quickly and could significantly enhance renewable energy storage. While skeptical...this could be a viable product one day.
Some have speculated that all the old world buildings were able to this. Hold energy.
That would be amazing if we could repurpose somehow.
@@NotSoTechie-News I really wish people with the knowledge of technology would take a harder look at this. I personally think tesla was redicoving old technology that was destroyed and also kept from being made public. Some of those buildings are 1000s of years old and still standing. There is something there I just dont know what.
People that think all of those complex metal spires oriented with very specific repeating geometries on the rooftops were just there for decoration do not understand anything about electromagnetic fields or antennae.
Looks like I can say my devices are _bricked_ when they no longer work LOL!
If the carbon were in the form of graphene the tensile strength of the concrete could be greatly increased - perhaps no steel needed. Also microengineering the concrete with nano particles of silica makes UHPC (ultra high performance concrete) 10x stronger in compression than ordinary concrete. A typical home may use 10 to 30 cubic meters of concrete or only 1 to 3 kWh at 300WattHours/m^3 so the energy storage value may only account for less than a tenth the cost of the concrete...
Where can I invest @Daryloster..lol...love the idea. How would you feel if you could combine with 3d home printing techniques. Fast, strong & less materials hypothetically. I also wonder how the lower mass would potentially affect the overall building composition...🤓
@NotSoTechie-News while 3d printing is great for one-off designs, it has many limitations for construction. Insulation is not very good. I believe tilt-up insulated concrete panels are better for most construction. And I don't know much about how this (or 3d printing) would help or hurt the use of concrete capacitor tech - only guesses
@@DarylOster thanks for the response! I believe we would need a structural engineer & those who play with this tech to come up with some real world test to see if the battery concept is viable in your original concept along with all the other concerns others have raised.
Could this create an issue around electrolysis? Like there is steel reinforcement in concrete.
Great question! From my limited understanding...yes, the integration of concrete supercapacitors could potentially create issues around electrolysis, especially concerning the steel reinforcement in concrete structures. Careful engineering and design considerations are important to prevent issues related to electrolysis and ensure the long-term durability of reinforced concrete structures.
Only the perpetual motion machine will save us.
That sounds awesome!
@@NotSoTechie-News The reality may be closer than you think.
@@PetrNekonečný tell me more...🤓
@@NotSoTechie-News You have to wait a few more months.
Perpetual motion no more in the list cause of thermodynamics law
What about lightning strikes?
Great question...Ideally, the building’s design would account for lightning protection, ensuring that any energy storage systems, including concrete supercapacitors, are safeguarded against such extreme events, and prevent damage to the building and its innovative energy storage components.
That's exactly what lightning rods are for.
Great for charging a capacitor...
@@DarylOster ac?
@@IzySly-g4h Lightning is ultra high voltage and high current DC, and some types of capacitors can absorb (or deliver) very high voltage and current for a short amount of time. I don't know if the concrete capacitor is in this category or not.
Carbon footprint. lol
Trillions and trillions of dollars business in the universe years 2024 concrete batteries
What is this, a pr stun by the concrete industry. The concrete industry produces massive amounts of C02 which gets released into the atmosphere, unfiltered in anyway.
Thanks for the Interesting reply...I don't who is paying for their research stipend, but it's true that traditionally cement production has a significant CO2 footprint. The development of carbon-cement super capacitors however could be seen as a way to offset it by integrating energy storage into building materials, thus reducing the need for separate, resource-intensive batteries. Researchers are also exploring more sustainable cement alternatives using waste materials, making this innovation a promising step toward a cleaner, more sustainable future.
lots of gerneralities not enough specifics
Hey @douglasmcleod7481 this might be one to dive deeper on or try for an interview. Thanks for the feedback!
They talk back and forth so much i think this is a fake, salt of some sort and two other materials makes a battery that is well known, but feels like they want to get viewingtime and show a fake
Hey @Ollerecovery...while I appreciate your comment this is based from News from MIT & the BBC. I really don't have the time or energy to try to make stuff up. As someone from the sciences...I'm just sharing something I've enjoyed my whole life.
Pipe dreams??
@PacoOtis maybe...I would have never though you could build a home w/a cement 3d printer...but it's being done. I just love all the new possibilities that we'll have to wait and see what the true cost vs benefit/demand...interesting regardless. Personally, I'd love to see something like helping recharge vehicles as they are being driven...who knows...LOL Thanks for the response
And generate enough electricity to power an LED...🤣🤣🤣
Did some digging...a concrete supercapacitors developed by MIT can store up to 300 watt-hours per cubic meter, enough to power a 10-watt LED light bulb for 30 hours. Key being 300W/cubic meter. Scaling up to a 45 cubic meter installation could store about 13.5 kWh, potentially powering a house for a day. While current capacity is modest, these systems charge quickly and could significantly enhance renewable energy storage. While skeptical...this could be a viable product one day.