Will This Petition Before The FCC Bring An End To Amateur Radio As We Know It Or Am I Wrong Jim W6LG
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- Опубліковано 11 лип 2023
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Maybe I need to have my medications adjusted. If I am wrong, say so. I do want to be wrong about this. - Наука та технологія
We are seeing similar corporate encroachment in the RC/drone hobby. Large, well-funded corporations are pressuring the FAA to remove the freedoms of this hobby and the FAA are doing just that. Another century-old, educational, family-friendly hobby thrown under the bus in the name of corporate profits. I fear for our grandkids and the very limited choices they'll have for a hobby.
You're right about the RC hobby. I have several RC planes that I had not flown in a while and was thinknig about taking them out and starting to fly again. But after learning about the new recent rules, I'm not going to. Probably try to sell my RC stuff now. If anyone will buy it.
I'm PO'd about the F'nAA regs on drones too, but let the blame lie where it belongs. Corporations didn't push that legislation. Over-worked, spun-up citizens caused it by freaking out about drones near airports or flying over their back yards, then news media and conspiracy theorists went full-on nut-job about it until congressional representatives had to act in order to appease the people who were freaking out. If you want better government, be a better citizen.
@@kd2eat No, the freak-out about drones near airports was just the "excuse" used to justify all this regulatory over-reach on drones. Nobody ever heard of a 250g foam RC model of a Piper Cub menacing an airport or spying on someone through their bedroom window but the FAA included them in the regulations because it's all about clearing *all* craft over which they have no direct control from that 0-400ft airspace.
If this really was just about a bunch of snowflakes feeling anxious about drones then they wouldn't have touched the traditional hobby with its great record of safety and responsible behaviour.
Trust me... with the likes of Amazon, Google, Airbus and other huge multinationals pouring massive amounts of money into drone delivery and autonomous air-taxis, this is *ALL* about the power of the mighty dollar.
@@kd2eat No, you are wrong. Commercial interests are behind what is happening. They basically want low altitude airspace cleared so that delivery and other low flying drone-like vehicles can have unfettered access to it without worry of colliding with hobby drones and model aircraft. They use the excuse of complaints from citizens and airline pilots (what few there really are) as an excuse to call hobbyists a danger. They have been proven to not be a danger. Money talks when it comes to the government. Hobbyists don't have enough. Congress and the FAA listen to money.
Probably our military/government pressuring/funding people within these big business to push this. The ability to engage these activities freely can and probably is being used against us.
I don't think you are being an alarmist at all Jim! You are right to "follow the money" in this scenario! THANK YOU
for posting this! Also, my prayers will be on your behalf for the upcoming treatment. Keep fighting! You're an inspiration to many of us. 73! 🙏
Prayers for your treatments, sir. It is my belief that this government hates independent individuals like ourselves. I am ready to give the ARRL any support, financial or otherwise, that they need.
Double from me Jim
Praying for your full recovery…
Gather around our brother in his time of illness! In the name of the father, and of the son and the holy spirit ! Amen
Praying for you also Jim!!! Stay strong!
OMG! I work in the trading indusrty as a network engineer and I know what they are up to. They want to run arbitrage data between different financial exchanges. Fiber is not fast enough these days. They want to use anything possible to get the data faster. Nanoseconds count. Will dig deeper into this. 73's N9TZO
Please comment back here. Thanks
@@dougtaylor7724 and that’s what it seems like on the surface, but there is no way in hell they can get any kind of comparable throughput, compared to optical, no way, this is dumb. I also used to work for a Wall Street firm and I can tell you that this is just not real. Something else is going on. and since you are a network engineer, I am sure you will agree that you will want to put your compute power as close as possible to the exchange. Why on earth would you backhaul market data in the first place if you’re arbitrage trading? You can’t get enough bandwidth, and you want to perform all of your computational cycles as close as possible to the exchange feed.
@@tripplefives1402 the only possible plausible scenario that I would think could work would be if you used the HF link for a very small trading command on the second exchange.
So for that, the compute on one exchange would be used to take a standard market data feed and quickly perform the calculation and use the HF link to send a short message to the second exchange located on the other side of the link, and that would be a very targeted trading request. OK, I think we should probably do the math though, it’s still doesn’t sound possible to me that it would be faster than an optical connection, even in a situation where you have a optical repeaters to compare with.
It's more likely to prevent any communication when the fake bio attacks and enforced lockdowns arrive. Cell phones will cease to work and if you look closely all other backups are being heavily controlled and clamped down upon. Example being even turf that we the Irish burn in our fireplaces. Being controlled. Petrol is now being changed so after a while it becomes unable and therefore can't be stockpiled. Wake up please
Every relay hand off creates latency.
Sooooo, I don't know how they can push bandwidth other these chanel's. There will have to be relay stations. Same as fiber.....
THANK YOU JIMMY for still standing in the gap for all of us. I'll do my part where it may be needed. Thanks Jimmy, you are very important to us
Time for the ARRL to stand and deliver.
they won't, they're ineffectual. Just like the nothing they did about the license fees.
I just checked their 2021 annual report. With $15 million in yearly income and $35 million in assets, you would think they have the money for a few lobbyists and lawyers in DC. (Had no idea that much money was involved.)
Don't hold your breath.
At one time the ARRL meant something.
Like most lobbyists they went from representing you to representing themselves. Their only concern is existing now. Like most non-trade associations they'll happily bleed you dry and give nothing in return.
How often have you seen "support us by donating, or buy this, and this, and this..." compared to how rarely you see "This is actually what we are doing."
Unfortunately, it feels like the ARRL is growing to be the next NRA. I'll be really happy to see them help stop the obvious interference that is coming from people who don't even live in the states. There is a lot of odd stuff going on these days. With the next generation of hams not looking up from their cellphones, I don't know what to think. I'm trying to get as many people to join clubs or even just learn and take the tech test. With the resources folks have now, their's no reason not to get on the air.
We are all in this together. 73🤙🏽
First and foremost Prayers Jim, I had no Idea you were still fighting cancer, and I know your going to win this battle. Second. Thank you for bringing this to light, you're absolutely right...this sounds sketchy. Thanks for the info, we all need to get on the ARRL to give some answers about this!
Jim, you are making the W6LG call sign proud. Saw your video and was surprised . This was my fathers call sign before he passed for many years. Keep up the good work and protect the bands. The world is encroaching on everything...
Thanks Jim , as a person dealing with stage 4 cancer myself I wish you all the best. KM4HLA
I've been donating to the ARRL Spectrum Defense Fund for years and suggest other hams do the same. When Apple developed their wireless phone chargers, they were using part of the ham band! The ARRL acted,
and got this soon stopped. Support your ARRL! 73. WW5MB
Thank you for alerting us to this, Jim. Like astronomy, music and walking in the woods, radio communication is our birthright. Let's defend it!
Prayers sent for your recovery. Thank you for raising this issue on UA-cam. I found an article on it on Radio World earlier this week.
Whoa, this seems really serious. Thanks so much for posting this, Jim! This is the time for all of us to have our voices heard; I only hope it helps. And all the best to you in your journey back to health. This community needs you, cheers!
Good luck with your treatment I really hope everything goes well for you. And thank you for making this video. I’ll be checking it out after work!
Thanks, Jim dor yur passion and dedication. Prayers for a speedy recovery...
Sir I Think You are Spot ON The Whole Country is in BIG Trouble from this Rouge GOV.
I'm sending this to my local ham clubs and our Section Managers. Thanks, Jim.
Thanks my friend. 73, Jim
Thank you, Jim, for this information. I have forwarded this to a friend of mine in California that may know something about this.
Good on you Jim for putting this out.
I wish you well with you upcoming treatment at the hospital
I am solely convinced the FCC doesn't care about amateur radio anymore. They don't care what people do on cb anymore it's just filtering down the line.
Well said.
We're just keeping it warm until commercial interests really want it again.
The powers in government and its agencies do not care about us. Its all about money and it won't get any better, only worse.
Thank you for posting this, Jim. My prayers are with you. It's clear a lot of us are bucking for you. The shame of this is that money talks. And following the career paths of FCC commissioners must be revealing. 73.
Thank you Jim!! Best wishes for a full and speedy recovery. We're thinking of you!!!
Thanks once again for thinking of your ham brothers over yourself Jim. These are bands used by the entire world, so the majority of the world ultimately has to agree to these types of changes. Prayers and thoughts to a speedy recovery Jim.
I have left my disapproval comment with the FCC. This spectrum adjustment is a direct attack on amateur radio. The only HF bands not directly affected would appear to be the 10 and 160m bands with the rest being at risk of 25kW of noise, with the potential of 50dB of interference/bandwidth essentially blanketing the HF spectrum.
lol Amateur radio is not that important anymore no matter what people think. It has become a hobby nothing more. Fer gawds sake, I go to hamfests and people don't buy cables because there are no connectors on it or don't buy microphones because there are no connectors on it. 90% of hams have no idea how to put a simple connector onto a coaxial cable all they know is buy the radio and hook it up to a pre-made antenna over a pre-made cable....appliance operators...that is what they are. just look at the junk content on you-tube and the self styled experts spouting out utter nonsense with thousands of people agreeing with them...Ham radio is in a sorry state with people memorizing the questions for a very simple test without having any real idea about the fundamentals.The corporate world and the FCC knows it. Why would they continue to give spectrum worth billions to an statistically insignificant minority? in a country of 350000000 like the US 760000 licenses with at least half of them inactive there is just not enough justification for the waste of spectrum.
@@germanjohn5626 I strongly disagree. Ham radio is a key part of emergency communications when natural or man made disasters occur. Also daily, weekly and monthly exercises are performed on the Hurricane net as well as the National Maritime net. I think your observation is grossly limited, as every hamfest I attend there is much more experience and ability being taught on site. Also, it ham radio that has pointed out to the FCC the interference coming from over the horizon radars, and intentional jammings being done on the air waves. On 40 and 20m I routinely see the trace signals go across the entire band. Yeah, it a is easier to buy pre made cables, especially if from a reputable company than to buy bare ended cable on add connectors. I do and have done both. And yes, I have made my own wire antennas end tuned them to where I was working, I have also purchased pre made antennas. If you think you live in an area where hams are deficient in your area, fix the problem, don't bemoan the decline of ham radio.
Showed up in my recommended. Hope someone can shed light on this and it turns out right for you guys. 73 from Canada
Hang in their Jim glad to see your still making content thanks for the heads up. N2FIX
Thanks Jimmy. Praying for your recovery! I will contact the ARRL and see what I can do even though I have no expertise. God bless you and your family. Floyd AF6BC
Best wishes on your treatments, thanks for updates. 73
Thank you Jim for this information. All the best in the treatments ahead!
Thank You for the heads up on this issue.
You are in my prayers sir.
73
Thanks, Jim, for the informative video. And never give up, never surrender, vs. the cancer.
Thanks Jim for the heads up. You are looking good, God bless you.
Hey Jim.... good luck with your Chemo... I'll be praying for you to heal and get past all these health issues.
Thanks for the information. Prayers for your recovery Jim.
You are not exaggerating, you're a wonderful person, and I hope your treatment goes well because you're still a force for good in the world.
Thanks for the heads up I hope your treatment goes well ... 73's N7ZXG
Thanks for the headsup on this important issue and Good Luck on your Treatments.
Thanks Jim, for bringing this to our attention. I shared this video with my ham radio club, and submitted a comment as you suggested in the other video in this series.
Jim, Thanks for bringing this to our attention. I was opposed to the selling of spectrum in the late '90s with the transition to digital TV broadcasty and that continues in more recent years with the repack of TV channels and more spectrum sold. I will read this petition. I am not an expert in this but have consultant friends that are more knowledgeable.
I have a radio club meeting tonight and I sure will bring this up. Thanks for informing us. I pray your chemo works this time around.
meanwhile in Connecticut the ARRL magazine publishing organization will act like deer in the headlights
Based on what they have done so far, you are correct. I had hoped to light a fire under the CEO who so far has been interested in the wrong issues. I told him that to his face on Zoom and then he became angry. 73, Jim
I did NOT read all the technical rule changes, yet.
However, at first glance, they go into GREAT LENGTHS to describe how they will NOT interfere with other users.
They also mention that the FCC can shut them down on any frequency after some complaints.
They mention some international rules also, which would need to be obeyed, since their transmissions would likely go around the planet.
One item that DOES concern me is the amount of power they would be allowed to use.
Would that damage our receivers if we just happened to tune in on a frequency they are transmitting at?
Jim, At first glance, it doesn't sound too bad, BUT, as you say, the community NEEDS some seriously knowledgeable folks to look at this ASAP.
Everyone who sees this video, and reads my comment, please try to get some more folks to review this.
Thanks Sir well said
No it wouldn't damage our receivers any more than a powerful AM transmitter nearby does. We are saved by the Inverse Square Law and the high dynamic range of our gear. However, nearby AM stations can often require filters and such be added to our gear before we can even get on the air. And if we are too close, as in within sight of their antenna in the field next-door, we may be reduced to working stations remotely and not at our QTH at all.
Thanks Jim for the heads up on another encroachment on our frequency allocations. I will comment when I find out how to do so. And, I join others in praying for your 100% recovery in your fight against this very old disease. I lost my first wife to cancer back in the seventies when they knew practically nothing, but the knowledge has increased vastly since then, so I join with others in seeing you beat this! Don't hesitate in letting us know about your progress! From W4 land.
Hello Jim,
First of all, Prayers for you, your doctors, and the treatment.
Thank you for bringing this to our attention. I have submitted a comment on the FCC website opposing this filing and think that everyone watching this UA-cam video should do the same.
Again, Prayers for a full recovery and thanks for bringing this to our attention.
Bill - KA8GIM
Thanks Jim, Keep your chin up with your chemo.
This is all about the dollar value to high speed trading, per millisecond in latency reduced, compared against fiber. It’s in the billions if I recall correctly about the microwave linkage installed between Chicago and NYC to have lower latency than fiber offered. The money to be made here is so insanely high that I imagine amateur radio to not be able to combat the issues sufficiently. Hopefully the other services will be commenting, like transatlantic aeronautical.
Thanks for the explanation. That makes a lot of sense. Thanks, Jim
Spot on. My neighbor on a flight (don't remember where), was a Korean stock-trader that explained about the crucial millisecond advantage in trading, and the plan they had to connect major stock exchange locations with HF Data links, rather than fiber. I am not sure how this may impact Ham Radio bands, if they just appear above the existing bands, but the risk of FCC starting to cut in our frequency band and allocate 50-100 kHz on each band for this idiocy, is not at all uncertain.
Now maybe FT8-clowns may begin to realize the danger with their activity. CW and SSB band segments are basically totally empty outside contest thanks to that ridiculous bag-piping hysteria...
Unactivated Ham Bands are ideal for FCC to utilize for dirty stock exchange speculation....
Most intelligent analogy yet with this comment. Thank you sir. Your finger is on the pulse.
Since the SEC regulates high speed trading, questions will be likely be raised by the SEC: (1) Will this new HF transmission mode of executing high speed trades introduce trading delays and reception errors that would impact market stability? (2) Could problems occur due to atmospheric noise, retransmission of data due to poor reception, or delays caused by the proposed method of frequency shifting when radio propagation changes? (2) Could unfriendly governments or entities monitor, decrypt, interfere with, or jam these HF transmissions impacting market stability? (3) There are also questions about regulation and who would be approved by the SEC to use a new high speed trading system.
@@RM2Das a prospective new Ham, believe me, I feel your hate for FT8! It is a very very very sore subject for legacy hams such as yourself. Hopefully shouting at the clouds helps your cause
Sorry Jim, it is about money. I'm in the UK, cannot help we are already there. Take care. Best regards, Syd.
As always, it will prove to be the" thin edge of the wedge". If it is allowed, then somewhere down the road, it will be expanded. Jim, thanks for bringing this to the fore . Prayers for success in the fight against your Cancer. God bless.
Big love Jim, thank you
In my prayers! 🙏 Just read this Tues. Thanks for getting this out here. I read it is to be used to transmit large amounts of financial transactions, so encrypted data.
Thank you so much for sharing this Jim! The corporate interests are trying to commercialize every domain and this seems like a setup step for doing exactly what you fear. There are NO "simple rewrites" when corporate lawyers are involved. All rewrites have a purpose that helps their clients bottom lines.
Thanks Jim we got you in our prayers for sure my bother went through intestinal cancer for two years been cancer free for a year it wasn’t easy at all but wishing you the best and again thanks for the info on this we will check this out W9NAF.
THANK YOU JIM. You really lead the way in such BIG issues. GOOD LUCK with the chemos, don't give up. 73 de SV1SLB
After a brief look at the document it's pretty obvious they plan to use it for stock trading with claims of better latency than fiber/microwave links.
Many SW stations since the end of the Cold War have ceased transmitting and shut-down their operations,. There must be plenty of room on the Bands right now to fill those voids where it isn't necessary at all to interfere with Ham Radio transmissions.
spotty sometimes though.
Thanks for the heads up
Praying for you Jim .. Thank you for the info..
God bless you jim, tnx for the great info your a blessing to the ham community!
Best of luck Jim, I hope the treatments works. Thanks for the update.
73, Bob at KD2WBZ
Thanks for bringing this to our attention! I'll pass it on. Good luck with the chemo! 🙏
Thank you, Jim for being "an alarmist". I will send this to my local club, SARA. Keep up the good work! 73's Arlon KI5QKU
Thank you for the information, I have passed a link to your video and attached the petition along with the e-mail I am sharing. Good luck on you heath issues God bless and I will say a prayer for you. Tony in Pennsylvania WA3ZPO
First of all, I hope you chemo goes well, I have a brother and brother-in-law (amateur operator) who have been fighting cancer for years. You will be in my prayers. I don't have any expertise in any field that would help the ARRL, I am a member and will certainly be contacting them and letting them know my concerns. Thank you for bringing this to light. Again, best of luck. 73
Thanks for this post and prayers going up for you!
Thanks Jim! were all pray for ya!
Prayers for your recovery Jim
Prayers for you Jim and get well quickly. Thanks for sounding the alarm. This bunch in D.C. is not to be trusted in anyway. Their mission is to limit freedom and make us slaves. God bless and keep fighting. 73
Never. Thought they would charge a fee for amateur licenses they do so I think you are correct sir
Thanks for the heads up Jim.. especially with your major health problems… I’m in the UK but its likely if they do it in the States, we will follow soon after…
Good idea to get some expertise to overlook this document… when its so near the deadline, my nose twitches as well
prayers for your treatment
GOD BLESS
Thank you Sir
I wish you all the best with your cancer fight. It's taken most of my family as well. Probably me someday too. Keep on battling.
Thanks Jim , I just saw an article on this yesterday . I was shocked to see this , although , if they are doing their research on how the band's are so poor due to cycle 25 it might take the wind out of their sails. But I'm not holding my breath and am very concerned .
Would you kindly post a link to that article please
@@radiotvgodUA-cam doesn't allow the posting of non-YT links.
Thanks for alerting us to this.
Thanks for the video really love it
Excellent info! I will still go for my General license on Saturday, but I will hold off on buying a HF rig for sure. You help lots of people, even us SWLers.
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I wouldn't hold off. Last fall and winter was the best dx we had in many years and this fall and winter should be just as good, if not better.
Good to see you again! Wishing you well!
I am a cancer survivor so I know what it's like to go through treatment. I wish you good luck.
Yes I’m alarmed. thanks for the notice.
You're a a dedicated Ham. The best to you. We look forward to updates from you. Old Ben
"Money does talk, it swears." A quote from B. Dylan that is right on the money.
Thank you for sharing this important information! ~ 73 ~ Jared, AC7WH
Thank you
Thank you! This is very concerning!
I saw it also. Reducing our useable band and monetizing the use of our bands reduces the effectiveness of our mission as amateurs
Thank you, Jim.
Thanks for the update Jim. 73's
Thank you Jim and prayers for you in your upcoming cancer therapy treatments.
Thank you for calling our attention to this.
We have already lost a good slice of the 220MHZ band to deep-pocketed business interests.
All my best for a speedy recovery...
Thanks for highlighting this Jim. As a G0 in the UK its the thin end of the wedge for our beloved hobby and what happens in the states usually ends up being copied in other parts of the world. 🙏🤞in your battle. 73 de G0CFD.
I hope you get well. Blessings and 73 Leo.
Thanks for the detail regards
My pleasure, 73 Jim
THANK YOU FOR THE PERSISTENCE SIGNAL RECIEVED
God bless you with your Health!
Thanyou! You are Right 73
Prayers for your peace and healing🙏
Thank you I haven’t heard this. You are in my Prayers. WA4FNV
You are absolutely right to be concerned. Anytime big money is looking at our bandwidth the greed light comes on has a warning
Praying for ya Jim
Jim - good luck in chemo treatment. Thanks for bringing this up.
AS a Amateur radio operator and television broadcast engineer with a PhD in computer engineering I am deeply concerned by this proposal. The reason this group is using shortwave is not for any public good but rather to gain a competitive trading advantage using HFT stock manipulation. The speed of light in fiber optic cable is ~2/3 C(180,000-200,000 km/s) there is also switching and packet forwarding delays. A 1000km fiber link will have nearly 12ms of delay. NYC to Chicago takes about 19ms for point to point fiber. By using shortwave they hope to gain a few ms of advantage for stock trades.
Whoever is doing this, it was noticed a while ago somewhere in the various chatter groups that HFT folks gossip in, and what they expect these guys are doing, is the "minimal bandwidth, very noisy, very short signal messages" thing, but from NYC to Chicago or Europe using the 20 meter band. using the Kennelly-Heaviside region of the E Layer, which can channel radio around the curvature of the earth, and get an acceptable delivered to someplace far out of line of sight. The landing point is literally next door to the Chicago Mercantile Exchange's data center in Aurora, IL. The CME is a virtual trading floor run out of this building now.
This has the potential of delivering a signal around the world with lower latency than any other technique available. However, the signal to noise ratio of doing this SUCKS. Which is why these sociopaths are blasting it at enormous power, in order to get some kind of reasonable data rate arriving at the other end. Whether it works at all to trade with, I dunno, but that is the generally accepted rationale for what they're doing.
Sorry about the long winding road to relevance here, but I thought it was worthwhile to describe the background of WHY somebody would be doing something as crazy as this. The answer is "money", as it usually is, but the interesting part is why and how it might be worth money. It is theoretically possible to use HFT to create "Flash Crashes" and having such a significant advantage could amplify this.
73.
AD0WQ
What does the uplink from the "device" to the network use?