Great video, thank you. I'll be trying this with some half inch as I have a log drying rack to make. I've always bent steel cold and have usually (!) had good results
Very good. I do exactly the same, but I welded a second handle on the opposite side to make a double-handed tool. If I get into the right position, up close by the vice and in such a way that the main force is exerted downwards and via the whole shoulder and arm, I can manage a triple twist (or even three and a half) in cold 12mm square bar. Might have to tweak it a little in a Miracle bender if you twist that severely. You won't twist 16mm square bar cold though, not without power assistance. 12mm is the limit of 'normal' human strength I would say. Longer twists are easier than shorter ones (less effort) but conversely longer twists require more turns to look tight enough. Cold twists are very much easier to keep true than hot twists because obviously the piece is at a uniform temperature (cold) and so deforms at a uniform rate.
Cheers to the new video. I picked up some old ball peen hammer heads recently and have practiced turning them into boarding axes. I am having trouble with cracks along the face though, if my heat is good am I just working it to fast or is there something else I am missing. Thank you for sharing your skills and your time
Not really sure about that one, I have never drawn a hammer down that thin so have no experience. Could be too hot or too cold. There is a narrow window of temperature when working high carbon steel, heat often as the temperature drops, if you have a good forge it will only take seconds to get back to the right heat.
Awesome! I'm gonna try this tomorrow! Tho i might use some heat as well, just because I have it. But the idea was brilliant with the pipe and handle. I was gonna use an old wrench I welded a second handle on, this seems a lot easier. I will probably weld the bending tool instead. What measurements does the squarebar have? 15x15 or 10x10mm? Thanks!
The whole point of not using heat is that you get an even twist. I only use heat if the bar is too thick to twist by hand cold. It’s 10x10 in this video
I don’t think I have any on hot twists, but it’s much more difficult to get an even twist doing it hot. I have no idea about the properties of bronze so I wouldn’t even attempt it unless I had lots to waste! There are too many variables.
What kind of steel is this and where would you find it? I know this will seem a very silly question but this video sort of got me interested in trying this.
@@garyhuston Thanks. I have found myself watching more and more blacksmithing videos lately and it seems interesting..I love to learn how to do new things. No clue on how to get started experimenting with this so I really appreciate the reply.
+Charles Andrews Not by hand cold. I used to twist 1 1/4" bar cold in a big old lathe I had. Anything over about 1/2" needs to be done hot if your doing it by hand.
Stephen Hodge What material do you think is used 99% of the time? It's not rocket science here you know! Besides, it makes little difference what it's made from the result would be the same..
Very glad you started up your videos again
Nice video Gary - always a pleasure watching you work mate - thanks for sharing your expertise. Cheers!
Another great video Gary thanks!!
Great film Gary -thanks.
Thanks for the great info!
Thanks for the video, I like the look of twisted bars like that, good tips on how to do it.
Very nice twist! Thank you for the video!
Many Thanks! Great Video.
Great video, thank you. I'll be trying this with some half inch as I have a log drying rack to make. I've always bent steel cold and have usually (!) had good results
Great idea thanks for keeping the bar straight
Well done and thanks for sharing.
Like the idea of using the tube to keep the twist straight good vid nice to see you back in the forge
thanks for the great vid
Really enjoyed that
That's cool you can twist it cold! Nice catch, too, on the camera 😙
I'm new at welding and metal working so videos like these are very help full I don't need new material
Great video, clear shots of the work. Easy to follow. Thanks for taking the time in making this.
I have now subscribed to your channel.
Thanks for the sub!
Nice job!
Nice done....addicted to metalwork
Much help for the handrail I'm fabricating! The tube trick, to be specific. Thank -you! Deep Roots Forge
Thanks :)
Very good. I do exactly the same, but I welded a second handle on the opposite side to make a double-handed tool. If I get into the right position, up close by the vice and in such a way that the main force is exerted downwards and via the whole shoulder and arm, I can manage a triple twist (or even three and a half) in cold 12mm square bar. Might have to tweak it a little in a Miracle bender if you twist that severely.
You won't twist 16mm square bar cold though, not without power assistance. 12mm is the limit of 'normal' human strength I would say.
Longer twists are easier than shorter ones (less effort) but conversely longer twists require more turns to look tight enough.
Cold twists are very much easier to keep true than hot twists because obviously the piece is at a uniform temperature (cold) and so deforms at a uniform rate.
cold twisting cool
I've also seen a bending wrench. Cool tools
good video..lots of knowledge and skill..very interesting..thank you..Bill
Cheers to the new video. I picked up some old ball peen hammer heads recently and have practiced turning them into boarding axes. I am having trouble with cracks along the face though, if my heat is good am I just working it to fast or is there something else I am missing.
Thank you for sharing your skills and your time
Not really sure about that one, I have never drawn a hammer down that thin so have no experience. Could be too hot or too cold. There is a narrow window of temperature when working high carbon steel, heat often as the temperature drops, if you have a good forge it will only take seconds to get back to the right heat.
Can you do a reverse twist using that method?
What type tube or pipe are you using ? What is the I.D. of the tube ? How close should it fit ?
Excelente!
Good good good. How did you do it in 1:13?
What material are you using steel, iron? I have 3/8 hot rolled steel and I don't think I could bend it cold.
Just ordinary hot rolled mild steel.
garyhuston Thanks!
Awesome! I'm gonna try this tomorrow! Tho i might use some heat as well, just because I have it. But the idea was brilliant with the pipe and handle. I was gonna use an old wrench I welded a second handle on, this seems a lot easier. I will probably weld the bending tool instead. What measurements does the squarebar have? 15x15 or 10x10mm? Thanks!
The whole point of not using heat is that you get an even twist. I only use heat if the bar is too thick to twist by hand cold. It’s 10x10 in this video
@@garyhuston ah, I see. Didn't think about that. I'm doing some candle holders, so i guess I'm NOT heating in that case. Thanks 🙂
Perfecto
I need to learn how to make the tool you used to actualy twist the metal with.
Black Bear Forge UA-cam
Check his playlist for tools
Cheers!
Nice one, do you have any on a hot twist. Any ideo on how to do it with a bronze bar? Thanx in advance.
I don’t think I have any on hot twists, but it’s much more difficult to get an even twist doing it hot. I have no idea about the properties of bronze so I wouldn’t even attempt it unless I had lots to waste! There are too many variables.
@@garyhuston thanx a lot for your reply!
Looked really lice. Thanks tor the tips.
Looks great! What material???
Stephen Hodge Are you for real with all these stupid questions? What does it say in the description?
Ralph is beautiful. And your job too.
What kind of steel is this and where would you find it? I know this will seem a very silly question but this video sort of got me interested in trying this.
It’s just plain mild steel found everywhere. If you’re really stuck finding scrap you can buy new from places like eBay.
@@garyhuston Thanks. I have found myself watching more and more blacksmithing videos lately and it seems interesting..I love to learn how to do new things. No clue on how to get started experimenting with this so I really appreciate the reply.
Wow
Can this be done with stainless using the same technique??
Yes, but you may not be able to do it for material the same thickness as stainless is a lot tougher.
can u do the same with brass coppe r
yes if you anneal it first.
Could you possibly make a video doing this with 12 gage wire ?
Sorry, how can you twist a piece of wire?
Is it possible to do this with a piece of steel tubing without it crumpling in in itself?
Not as far as I'm aware. Maybe with special machinery but I don't know of any..
No.
I've seen people bend tubing filled with sand so it doesn't collapse. No idea if you could twist it the same way.
Is it possible to twist 1" square bar?
+Charles Andrews Not by hand cold. I used to twist 1 1/4" bar cold in a big old lathe I had. Anything over about 1/2" needs to be done hot if your doing it by hand.
Not cold by hand, I used to twist 1 ¼" square cold in my old lathe.
You kind of sound like Ricky Gervais!
Same country of origin CR. :)
Ur fly is open. Death to the imperial measurements, metric4lyfe x
what is "cast barrel", you mean "pipe or tubing"?
aaron parks, gas barrel, yes just pipe or tube. It doesn't matter.
Gary Huston
Pritam Bhawal ?
Description......3/8" square bar..... no mention of type of material? Sorry for my stupid questions!
Stephen Hodge What material do you think is used 99% of the time? It's not rocket science here you know! Besides, it makes little difference what it's made from the result would be the same..
Just mild steel..
This is not I want to watch