Why Digimon Failed
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- Опубліковано 20 сер 2022
- While brands like Pokemon and Yu-Gi-Oh created a cycle of interest, Digimon failed. Despite sharing qualities of Pokemon and Digimon, Digimon couldn't break through.
Digimon had an amazing anime, but lackluster video games and trading card game would lead to its downfall. Pokemon started as a game and Yu-Gi-Oh had the greatest marketing team in the word.
Digimon never stood a chance
#digimon #pokemon #yugioh - Розваги
Ok, a couple of things that are wrong here.
The Digimon franchise didn't start with a short film. It started off with a v-pet. The short film didn't come out until around 1 year later.
Digi-destined/chosen children or "champions" as you call them, are only 1 of the 2 kinds of relationships a human can form with a Digimon. There's also tamers, who are simply normal humans that naturally formed bonds with Digimon. But they're basically capable of everything a digi-destined can do.
The digital world wasn't nearly as difficult to completely understand back in the day, it was easily summarized as a parallel dimension to the real world made of data. It only got more complex over time, just like the Pokemon universe got more complex over time.
The real reason Digimon failed as hard as it did was honestly... Bandai in the west being unbelievably incompetent at the time. They changed the rules of the card game, which was beloved in Japan but completely ruined in the west, along with being distributed poorly, reprogrammed Digimon world into a much more glitchy mess than it was in Japan to the point that they killed its chances, especially in Europe, and for some reason barely advertised the brand even when it was ultra popular.
What you say maybe true but the card game was changed because it was insanely difficult.
Watching two people play the original game against each other can be awe inspiring. But from the perspective of a lay- person, it was difficult to get into.
Separating the cards into three different skill categories and releasing below skill version for kids first probably would have worked.
Releasing a game with complexity, in-between the two for teenagers might have worked. That way it feels like the card game is maturing along with the audience.
They probably could have still used the original (Japanese version) card game, but only as something to be sold to adults in specialty shops. It would be for experts, collectors, and college students.
Maybe in simplifying, the game mistakes were made but that’s to be expected.
Also, the person who made this video should probably redo it as they got plenty of facts wrong. It makes you look incompetent or lazy. Yes, I know this is probably just a clickbait video but still.
What you say maybe true but the card game was changed because it was insanely difficult.
Watching two people play the original game against each other can be awe inspiring. But from the perspective of a lay- person, it was difficult to get into.
Separating the cards into three different skill categories and releasing below skill version for kids first probably would have worked.
Releasing a game with complexity, in-between the two for teenagers might have worked. That way it feels like the card game is maturing along with the audience.
They probably could have still used the original (Japanese version) card game, but only as something to be sold to adults in specialty shops. It would be for experts, collectors, and college students.
Maybe in simplifying, the game mistakes were made but that’s to be expected.
Also, the person who made this video should probably redo it as they got plenty of facts wrong. It makes you look incompetent or lazy. Yes, I know this is probably just a clickbait video but still.
What you say maybe true but the card game was changed because it was insanely difficult.
Watching two people play the original game against each other can be awe inspiring. But from the perspective of a lay- person, it was difficult to get into.
Separating the cards into three different skill categories and releasing below skill version for kids first probably would have worked.
Releasing a game with complexity, in-between the two for teenagers might have worked. That way it feels like the card game is maturing along with the audience.
They probably could have still used the original (Japanese version) card game, but only as something to be sold to adults in specialty shops. It would be for experts, collectors, and college students.
Maybe in simplifying, the game mistakes were made but that’s to be expected.
Also, the person who made this video should probably redo it as they got plenty of facts wrong. It makes you look incompetent or lazy. Yes, I know this is probably just a clickbait video but still.
What you say maybe true but the card game was changed because it was insanely difficult.
Watching two people play the original game against each other can be awe inspiring. But from the perspective of a lay- person, it was difficult to get into.
Separating the cards into three different skill categories and releasing below skill version for kids first probably would have worked.
Releasing a game with complexity, in-between the two for teenagers might have worked. That way it feels like the card game is maturing along with the audience.
They probably could have still used the original (Japanese version) card game, but only as something to be sold to adults in specialty shops. It would be for experts, collectors, and college students.
Maybe in simplifying, the game mistakes were made but that’s to be expected.
Also, the person who made this video should probably redo it as they got plenty of facts wrong. It makes you look incompetent or lazy. Yes, I know this is probably just a clickbait video but still.
What you say maybe true but the card game was changed because it was insanely difficult.
Watching two people play the original game against each other can be awe inspiring. But from the perspective of a lay- person, it was difficult to get into.
Separating the cards into three different skill categories and releasing below skill version for kids first probably would have worked.
Releasing a game with complexity, in-between the two for teenagers might have worked. That way it feels like the card game is maturing along with the audience.
They probably could have still used the original (Japanese version) card game, but only as something to be sold to adults in specialty shops. It would be for experts, collectors, and college students.
Maybe in simplifying, the game mistakes were made but that’s to be expected.
Also, the person who made this video should probably redo it as they got plenty of facts wrong. It makes you look incompetent or lazy. Yes, I know this is probably just a clickbait video but still.
But Digimon didn't fail. It's Toei Animations 3rd highest paying property today. That's very successful being behind only DragonballZ, and One Piece.
Digimon didn't really fail, it was marketed differently. It was a more serious version of pokemon. So had a more niche audience. I've been a digimon fan for over 20 years. Dragonball, final fantasy, yugioh, duel masters and digimon were very popular in Australia. Probably because of how our morning cartoons were structured. Pokemon and digimon were never played at the same time, not at the same period of time. Almost like how u have summer sports and winter sports, they never compete with each other.
We saw digimon and pokemon, duel masters and yugioh in that retrospect. Dragonball z and kid muscle, at the time dbz didn't have much competition in the west besides street fighter. Now u have one punch man but I haven't watched it. I guess baki might be the next rival to dragonball as it's quite popular.
Digimon still produces lots of games and content, so it never failed. It was just darker. Had more Japanese vibes than pokemon as pokemon was marketed for the west. Its why final fantasy will always have fans and Stan's, it's more niche. Or gran turismo and forza. Gran turismo was the first, but forza with its horizons changed the game for car racing. It took the best parts of need for speed and gran turismo and made the best spin off series ever.
pokemon appealed to more kids, better marketing and easier reach. Digimon was good for a while but pokemon stayed long enough to sell
@@Tethloach1 Nah, digimon would be more appealing to kids too if they streamed it enough. But noo.
In germany they had the habit to stream those 2 shows right after the other. And still digimon appealed to me more. Its cause I really liked (and still like) monster themed animes. Digimon delivered it perfectly in showing what a monster should be. While pokemon on the other hand..................its just some unusal pets.
Digimon didnt fail tho it's still going strong af
Stop da cap💀
@@RandomAntiFurryOntheInternetCan't stop a cap that does not exist, only thing happening is facts.
Not in the west and not to the degree pokemon or even yugioh is
This is the most misinformed video I've ever seen.
If it was such a failure does it still exists to this day??!! And with an estimated revenue of 6.33 billion dollars!!? Sure, it may pale in comparison to Pokemon's own 140 billion dollar revenue.... but it doesn't mean that Digimon "is such a failure", when it makes more money than Mortal Kombat, Game of Thrones and Resident Evil.
I would list all the other which are wrong, but a lot of the other comments have already done that.
Digimon is quite popular in japanese. It gets more popular again around the world with TCGs and V-Pet Tournaments. I Love this Franchise and the Digimon Community. WE are all Digimon Tamer. (like in the 3rd Season and also the 5. Season where everyone can be a Digimon Tamer)
I like it more than Pokemon, because its more serious. But I also like Pokemon a Lot.
I agree
Digimon started as a Tamagotchi-like virtual pet, not a film. The short film came AFTER the v-pet release.
I think u need to rethink this videos…digimon has Tamers not champions…
Digimon failed at nothing. The franchise continues to put out quality material, while Pokemon only cares about quantity.
For a franchise that makes so much money, why are their games so low budget? Why do they ship their games with more bugs and glitches than anything current Bethesda could make?
Digimon Story Cyber Sleuth >>> The latest Pokemon games.
As far as I’m concerned anything from 20 years ago that has any notable amount of fans is pretty successful.
Truer words have never been spoken lol
Same here. In fact they have recently celebrated its 25 anniversary of Adventure.
it didn't fail, its just not as all consuming as Pokemon
I'm from America. If your plan to exploit children doesn't gross a billion dollars, then it's a failure
@@MediaPhilosophyWhich means, by your very own definition, Digimon didn't fail.
I’ve come to love DIGIMON more where Pokémon has gotten pretty dull w/their character designs and not listening to its audience. I think the big thing is Bandai doesn’t really advertise it much here in the West. Like aside from one guy on UA-cam, I hav no clue where to go for Digimon updates
To be fair why lisn to an audience that will buy no matter what. Companies as big as Nintendo only cair of it hurts there wallets
My local game store has a Digimon night every week and it seems to draw a decent crowd. Perhaps digimon will come back but I'm not sure if we'll see it taking over elementary schools anytime soon
I don’t think digimon failed if it’s still an ongoing series 30 years later. It’s just not the mega success Pokémon is. People saw “mon” and digimon was doomed.
Failed is a bit of a hyperbole, but in terms of a global intellectual power house, it didn't achieve what Pokemon did. But it's still probably my favorite anime of that genre
@@MediaPhilosophy yeah I think a fun video would be to compare the two companies as media enterprises. If you compare video game sales, entrees in the series, and current viewers I think you would see two vastly different audiences. That’s what makes digimon different I think. Especially after playing the newest video game/visual novel, that shit was dark. I think comparing these two franchises may be a lot closer to apples and oranges sometimes. I still appreciate the video! I just figured I’d pop in and give my two cents and create a dialogue
@@MediaPhilosophy no other franchise on earth has achieved what Pokemon has, but nobody is here saying Legend of Zelda, GTA, Marvel, etc failed
I like the fact that Digimon is niche. The fact that each season outside of the first two are separate universes makes them more distinct and allows for creativity.
While I agree that Pokémon has the better games, I enjoy the anime and the world building in each universe of the Digimon series better. I also enjoy Digimon’s character and storytelling more as well.
As for the monsters, I rather have a bond creature like Patamon over owning a bunch of Pikachus.
Literal clickbait
Digimon wasn't a failure its still making shows and games for it to this day as far as I am aware of and a franchise would not survive this long if it wasn't at least decently good on some level. Sure it may not have sold as well as Pokemon but just because something doesn't sells as well doesn't indicate quality.
I have the Digimon PSOne games! I think part of the Digimon was a miss in America because of the heavy censorship and the storylines changing to fit the demographic of kids. It was too dumbed down.
4kids strikes again!
But the story wasn't altered at all in the english dub of digimon.
@@cat3273 the story might not have been, but English dubs around that time are notorious for altering words to make it more kid friendly.
In Japanese, a character might yell something like KILL THEM!
In English it might be ATTACK!
Changes like that can drastically alter the tone in a negative way
Ratings disprove this, interest in the west went down after frontiers
@@MediaPhilosophy Can't blame 4kids for that one. Not to mention Pokemon had it's fair share of censorship.
This... is so full of misinformation, and very clickbait-y for that matter.
The real title for this video should be "Why Digimon doesn't appeal to me" or "Why Digimon doesn't appeal to more people than Pokemon" or "Why Digimon failed in implanting rabid consummerism to kids"
Here I am frustrated that Bandai can’t even make a simple iPhone app available in my country, Digimon is so frustrating because you have to battle to keep being a fan, not because the product is bad, but because they refuse leave Japan
I have to download a freaking VPN just to enjoy simple content
Sounds like a huge bummer. Don't know why they don't want to expand.
At least you have a work around
It seems to me that Digimon is not going to last long for years to come. Which its sad. Look how Metabots ends up back in the 2000s decade. They haven't had a decent amount of popularity in the West. So if Bandai Namco Entertainment don't want Digimon to expand, then that means that Digimon is going bye bye.
The number one reason Digimon didn’t do as well as they could have: Bandai holding it back, much like they like to do with many other series that existed under their belt. Just look at .Hack how that series was ripped away from western audiences despite being a good fan base. They even denied the west .Hack//The Movie.
Bandai only recently discovered that they had fans of Digimon and decided to finally address their interest.
The thing for one of the reasons where only some people can have digimon. Why not envision yourself if you were a digi destined?
The exclusivity just adds another barrier to digimon's success. It wasn't over thing that's killing them, it's all of them combined
@@MediaPhilosophy so your saying it stacks up on top of eachother.
Exactly, anyone can have a Pokémon, but to have your own soul bonded creature is way cooler.
Please research if something actually failed before saying it failed
Digimon is def a failure
@@MediaPhilosophy what counts as a failure to you?
@@a_man_with_a_plan Digimon
@@MediaPhilosophy I believe your parents count you as a failure
@@MediaPhilosophyBro, if you think Digimon is a failure, do you also think Legend Of Zelda is a failure just because it's not the most popular franchise.
I mean I'm a huge Pokemon Fan as I am a digimon fan. This commentary is not mean to be rude or disrespectful, but you have a HUGE misunderstanding of how Digimon as a franchise works. Before I even get into the specifics***, It seems that there is ignore when comparing the Eastern audience to the Western Audience. You seem to come from a Western prespective where everything needs to be commercialized. While yes there is aspects of that in Eastern Culture now in the modern day, it wasn't always like that. Furthermore Eastern animation seems to have priority of tell stories and marketing secondary for a LOT of their products, which you hone in, somewhat, on the topic. It usually isn't until that franchise becomes a global phenonmenon (i.e. Pokemon, Yugioh, Dragon Ball, Sailor Moon) when they start commercializing it and want to mass produce it.
That being said, Digimon in the Eastern Culture is thriving pretty well. At this point, anime wise, we are on Digimon's 9th iteration with Ghost Game. (Which Im a bit upset you pulled from the most recent Pokemon Journeys anime, but not Savers, Xros Wars, or Ghost Game for digimon). That still doesn't count the numerous, games, manga, digital pets that are distribution via marketing in the Eastern world. Hell even the TCG has gotten a revival. Hell the Cybersluth and ReArise games are EXTREMELY popular in and out of Japan. Digimon IS a successful franchise and has not failed. Is it as successful as Pokemon? No. Has it Failed? Absolutely not. I would suggest that you state your viewpoint is from a Western view especially commerically. Furthermore, in the East side of the world, Digimon is thriving, still relevant, and has a HUGE fanbase. To say that Digimon failed as a whole is kinda dishonest. What's even more dishonest is when you talk about Digimon in the past tense (like its a dead franchise) when you literally showed clips from the rebooted of Digimon Adventure in 2020 and clips from Digimon Survive.
What makes Digimon, and most animes for that matter, successful in the Eastern world isn't commericalization, its the engaging and deep stories it tells, the plot to keep you watching, the lesson it can potentional teach anyone (not just children), and the characters people are able to relate and connect. Its very clear you have only have a very limited perspective.
Digimon failed commercially in western world because of the types of media corporations want children to digest in order to make a profit. They sacrifice creativity, story, and character development in order to make episodic shows to make toys and instant dopamine for kids. Its why shows such as Steven Universe, Owl House, Star vs the Forces of Evil, OG Teen Titans, Infinity Train, Young Justice, Amphibia have gotten chopped because corporations rather make a profit 100% of the time instead of producing media for people just to enjoy.
***A little nuiance: I apologize if the seems pointed, but I can't tell you have done much research when looking into Digimon. One it really seems your basing the majority of your arguement of the original Digimon in the 90s (or what we call Digimon Adventure in the anime community). Its show with the disregard of the later iterations of the franchise. The human counterparts to digimon arent called Champions. They can be summed up into one of two caterogies.
1) Chosen Children (Digidestined in ENG) - This is where you pulling the majority of your criteria. In Adventure 01/02/2020 and in Frontier, this individuals were hand picked by destiny in order to fulfil a prophecy to protect both the Digital World and Human World. That are specifically partner with certain digimon (or in Frontier's case, spirits) that matches their own special traits and fulfill their destiny.
2)Tamers/Partners - Its seems you aren't adding in the remainder of the iteration of the Digimon Franchise. Tamers are human partners to their Digimon. Regardless of Age, Status, or Gender anyone can be a Tamer depending on the universe the story takes place. All it takes is a collaboration (not always necessarily consentual) of a human and digimon. Tamers has numerous kids partner with Digimon because of a common goal, not because they were chosen by destiny. Digimon Savers can attest to this as well where literally adults can partner with Digimon. That being said with in the cannon of Adventure canon, especially in 02, numerous children can be partnered with digimon, but the Chosen Children are special in bring the prophecy into fruition. Furthermore in the Games, if you aren't the digimon them selves, human are literally either called Partners or Tamers.
Even I grew up, learn this because I became invested in Digimon. I still consume Digimon media as an adult, so its unfair to say that an older audience from 10-12 makes it obslete. Don't say its too complicated because that is Western Marketing not wanting to engaging children in critical and higher level of thinking. That want the mass simplified and easy to manipulate in order to buy their products.
No disrespect at all. Thank you for the very thoughtful response. I agree with a lot of your points that commercialization ruins great shows. But unfortunately, selling toys is what keeps those lesser quality shows going. And that was one of the points I tried (and perhaps failed) to make.
Digimon was too good for us. We didn't deserve it.
Also, I purposely wanted to focus on the original anime because I was trying to compare the roots of each show.
Again, thank you for such a great reply. Really appreciate it
This guy is pretty ignorant on the topic lol
Anyone can own a digimon, pokemon or deck of cards. Not every pokemon trainer will become a champion, not every digimon tamer will become digi-destined and not all duellist can feel the heart of the cards, that was specifically a yami yugi trait.
Now I'm questioning your age and if u even have the knowledge to speak on these topics, I'm 34. And the rules were layed out pretty clear 20+ years ago on the lore and rules of these worlds.
Now if we are talking shitting the bed, how about in ur world where pokemon and humans co-existed for millennia, why did it take 2nd gen to work out pokemon come from eggs lol mmmm. So u make a weird point about digimon changing and being complicated when, if u come from a time when the world was analog, before internet, the digital world is easy understood. But if u are 20ish, u have always lived ina digital world, so for u, it is a parallel world lmaooo u can't fathom a difference😂
Maybe you don't understand digimon.
It's a digital world, not a parallel world. It was created from our data lol. It doesn't require 3 hours on a wiki to understand, after 3 episodes of the first season u kinda get the picture of what digimon Is about. Pokemon is just an adventure. Digimon was about exploring dynamic relationships between characters, favouritism, the light and dark that does battle with in each of us. Neglect and love. The different forms of digimon represented this. Pokemon barely scratched the surface, they tried it in hoen, gen3 with wurmple silcoon n cascoon. U could argue their legendary pokemon like entei mewtwo mew etc have free will and agency and are changed because of love n neglect etc. But pokemon isn't about that, not even about legendary pokemon, pokemon is about a kid with a world to explore like a new born.
Digimon is like zoids chaotic century, the best series are made that involve war. A clear good vs bad. Morale choices.
Pokemon is really just for kids. Digimon is more for a more adult audience.
One of the saddest scenes was with guilmon early in that series, neglected like a puppy. Guilmon really conveyed his sadness.
It's like ur comparing bananas and apples and saying bananas failed as A fruit because it's not a popular juice. Lol. It's better at other things than apples. Same as pokemon m digimon. Digimon world3 is the best game, it's comparable to early pokemon with how challenging and fun they used to be. Before quest markers ruined modern gaming.
digimon do exist in a parallel world. Its just that technology acts like a gateway towards the digimon world
Digimon fans storming comments defending it
This video is littered with false information. I encourage you to do proper research next time.
Uh. What are you talking about? Digimon completed it's tenth anime series, 'Ghost Game' last year. Digimon Ghost Game, a mix between tactical RPG and virtual novel got released for current gen systems in 2022. The Card Game is still going strong. The Digital Monster keychain pets are STILL being sold. If the franchise had failed, it wouldn't still be distributed outside of Japan!
I’d like to see a updated video of this where you check out the 2020 card game and see you do a comparison
You forgot in digimon tamers literally anyone can be a digimon tamer so. Update anyone can be a tamer if they are a kid adults however can't.
Digimon was dead in English North America, Europe and Latin America were always the home of Digimon's "western" fan base but Toei/Saban and Bandai were to stubborn to realize and kept releasing Digimon in the USA and wondering why it failed (as in it didn't make as much money as Pokemon). That and the fact it all comes back to Fox's first approach to the franchise seeing it only with dollar sign eyes as a competitor to Pokemon and not for what it is, one of the best in billions of Kaiju/Yokai and bug wrestling adjecent media from Japan. And now we are here 26 years later and still having recess tier debates over my X can beat your Y.
Digimon didn't fail. Digimon anime is generally viewed as better than Pokemon. Digimon isn't as popular in the USA because of that horrible dub. You better watch the original japanese one. It's like night vs day.
Pokemon has better games but Pokemon anime isn't that great though.
There are lots of dubs I loved as a kid I still love as an adult (mostly Robotech due to it sincerely trying to be its own thing), but when I've realized how much the Digimon dubs gutted and watered down the originals, yikes.
Ima be honest with you yugioh has the best designs bro and more interesting characters than both digimon and pokemon
Pokémon has a massive amount of success during its heyday back in the late 1990s back then in my childhood years and it is still going strong to this very day. Digimon...however, it's a little engine that it could. While they're are good Digimon games like Digimon World 1 and 3, Digimon Story Cyber Sleuth games, and recent Digimon Survive. However, it never reached its popularity of success like Pokémon or Yu-Gi-Oh had. As for the anime, you know that Digimon (minus the horror...because I don't like horror things in Digimon....too scary) is a clear winner🥇 of this one alongside with Yu-Gi-Oh. Both of them has character development and the story is fleshed out from beginning to end on each season. While Pokémon kept running the exact same story (Ash Ketchum and Pikachu) for 25 years since 1997, that is until this Friday, Pokémon is going to finish Ash Ketchum and Pikachu's story on January 13th. Which leads to the brand new two protagonists of the next Pokémon anime for the very first time in the history of Pokémon. So Pokémon and Digimon has their ups and downs with each other for 3 decades since their introduction in the late 1990s when we were kids at that time. Now in the 2020s, as we've are now grown adults, we are still remembering of how we experienced both Pokémon, Digimon, and Yu-Gi-Oh throughout our lives.
Digimon, along with Monster Rancher, Neopets, Monsuno, Medabots, Moshi Monsters, and Bakugan need to make a comeback.
I think the only problem was that it was more complex than pokemon and didnt have the same 1 mc per show, pokemon had evolutions that were permanent and one certain line, digimon you can have a squishy leaf that suddenly evolves into a world level disastrous monster. It's games were also a lot more complicated and didnt have a certain goal, Pokemon it was just collect them, level up, beat gym leaders
Digimon cards are back. I bought some recently. They have pretty nice illustrations. Although I think they could go with better card materials. The cards feel a bit cheap in my opinion. Since there is basically no large market for it the resale value is horrendous. Still fun to look at the artwork and get some nostalgic feels.
I always thought of Digimon as being a weird Pokémon spin-off. I never bothered even watching it.
what kind of bothers me is when you said that digimon first started out as a film which isn't true at all. It actually started out as a V pet which was a male version of tamagotchi, both of which were made by the same company Bandai
Kids in Digimom are called the Digidestined, not champions.
They use both names
No they don't, provide one instance of a Digidestined being referred to as a champion.
@@trenthoward6800 haha yes bcuz that’d be worth my time
@@mikemike7326 You're the brain donor who opened his mouth in the first place, own your stupidity boy. Didn't your father ever teach you anything, or is he still buying those cigarettes?
@@mikemike7326"Oh no, they know I'm a huge liar and that no character was ever called a champion! Quick, make something up!"
I heard the Digimon went through a couple of revisions throughout the years which made it more difficult to understand the lore.
It fell into the trap Pokemon did with Season 02, but afterwards it went the power rangers route of telling a different story with different characters in each series... like Transformers or Superheroes.
lol Digimon still going strong
Video should be titled " Why Digimon isn't more popular than Pokemon"
You had to wait all season to see an awesome ultimate evolution only for it to last a fewinutes and them they turn into an egg again...
So annoying
By the way he talks you can tell that he's only ever watched three episodes of Digimon ever. But he does make strong points.
Trust me, everyday I am embarrassed that I called the digi destined "champions"
but when you write, record, edit alone, these mistakes sneak right in.
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@@MediaPhilosophyDigidestined aren't the only ones with Digimon.
Love the song at 2:34 i was singing along with them 😂
Digimon still strong
Digimon still rules
Another issue is that Agumon, which is basically the mascot of digimon as a franchise is far less cute and marketable than Pikachu or Kuriboh for Yugi-oh.
I honestly believe that Digimon would have a much easier time having Veemon as the mascot of the franchise because it's cuter and can turn into something cool.
The other problem is that the story isn't consistent.
Each season of digimon is a completely different thing. The first anime is kids surviving in a different world, the second is kids collecting eggs/armors to digievolve their partners, the third one requires cards, the fourth one are the humans the ones that digievolve, the fifth one turns the main character pretty much into cops, and from that point and onward the concept keep changing to the point that no one cant really tell what is digimon really about.
Also, the digimon dub utterly destroys the impact of scenes that were meant to be emotional. The biggest example I can think of is Tai/Taichi's return to the digimon world and Kari/Hikari trying to stop him (granted, this is a really old scene). But still just look at the difference:
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Digimon's changing story is a positive.
Digimon's story and themes are consistent. What you are thinking of is the lack of an ongoing plot between most seasons. But that's not inconsistency, that's just "One story ends, another begins". It's not hard to get some grasp of what Digimon is unless you are under the mindset of "Why isn't the story and characters the exact same as before?"
@@RippahRooJizah
As I explained before what I'm saying is that aside from the fact that there's digimons in it, the franchise doesn't really have a consistent concept:
The first anime is kids surviving in a different world, the second is kids collecting eggs/armors to digievolve their partners, in the third one they require cards to fight, the fourth one are the humans the ones that digievolve, the fifth one turns the main character pretty much into cops, and from that point and onward the concept keep changing over and over to the point that no one cant really tell what is digimon really about.
@@giboit. The concept: DIgimon are being from another world. While some are friendly, others want to make trouble, and some others have more devious plans. It's up to digimon and human pairs to save both worlds.
The exact means of which may vary but it's a pretty consistent concept with some varied aspects every so often. What digimon are and how they relate to our world has not changed too much over the digimon anime series'.
Again, it's not that it's inconsistent, it just looks like the expectation should be that the stories should be the exact same. It's like saying Super Sentai and Power Rangers are inconsistent shows because, aside from transforming heroes, there's no consistent concepts. In reality, there *are* consistent concepts, they just aren't going across the same exact beats over and over again.
I mean, Season 1 and 2 are in the same continuity and yet you treat it as some wholly different thing because of a new set of plot items in the same settings as the previous season. Adventure and Frontier both have the focus of kids surviving some other world, but one has a specific group of kids that turn into a specific group of digimon, but is otherwise largely similar. Tamers, Savers, and Ghost Game dealt with variations of digimon coming to the real world and potentially causing trouble, with less emphasis on being in the digital world.
@@RippahRooJizah
You're literally just proving my point. The only thing that those series have in common is that they have digimons in it. But the world and the way the digimon interact with humans changes in every season.
No one can really tell what digimon is about because the concept for the show changes all the time: survival in an alternate world, people who travel between worlds collecting eggs, card collectors, humans that become the digimon, the human and digimons are essentially cops, the digimon fuse with each other and the main digimon wants to be a king, the digimon are treated as jokais and urban legends, etc.
Sadly sales are important. Gundam almost got canceled after the first season, but survived thanks to Gunpla.
Pokemon was & has always been about selling the Pokemon, almost every monster is marketable. With Digimon their a secondary element of their own franchise, the main draw of the anime are the kids, but that's not what your selling.
In short, Pokemon is selling the Pokemon, Gundam is selling the Gundam, Yu-gi-oh is selling Yu-gi-oh cards, but Digimon are selling outdated proprietary hardware in the age of smart phones or cards in an already bloated market.
Also Pokemon has Nintendo in their corner, kind hard to fight against any franchise that has a guaranteed spot in Smash Bros.
you kinda rushed this video out my guy
it's tough working full time and making videos. Yeah, I do need to double check things. But when you reread and listen to something a dozen times, those mistakes slip past
The only thing that failed between pokemon and digimon is the first one. Yeah while digimon is an entirelly different show (predaccesor was tamagotchi and eveolved from it into digimon), pokemon attempted several times to copy digimon and they did. First there is mega evolution and the ability to devolve, then giganta/dynamax thing. But ofcourse mayoriti of people out there (90%) are too stupid to realize this. And there are still digimon fans out there multiplying every day. Not to mention that the plot is by miles better than by some neveraging 10yrs old. It's never meant to be entirely for kids and they covered that part in perfect amounts (people are actually dying, some signs of attempted rape where shown and so on). So yeah you hopefully got the message by now.
Also digimon started as a toy line so.
I believe anyone with a more than a basic knowledge of Digimon would know the beginning of your thesis is fundamentally false. By season 2, we know that any child in the entire world who witnessed the events that took place in the first movie(in person or on TV) was in fact a digidestined.
Also, Digimon started as a vpet marketed to boys. It was virtual pets that fight. I think we pretty much always knew what the basis of Digimon was.
Now Digimon does use the nostalgia pandering tactic or did with Digimon Adventure Tri (which didn't try at all), Digimon Adventure Movie Last Evolution Kizuna (what a mouthful) and Digimon Adventure 2020 (pretty colors and shallow characters). I guess they did release a game that was compelling with Cybersleuth. People I praising the heck out of it and from what I have seen it is very kick ass... sadly I don't own a past Gen 7 home console. So I will never play it.
And it might be Digimon’s right time to regain popularity, Pokémon is starting to show some cracks with the release of #palworld.
Failed? Nope
basically there's no games
Two errors. 1, the kids are called digidestineds’ not champions, as champion is a digimon evolution. 2. Digimon don’t start as a short film it started as a second tomigachi targeted for boys
Pokémon had a headstart, Digimon didn’t
Digimon *did* have a head start, Pokemon just had loads more marketing. That's why most people think Digimon started as an anime or don't know that Digimon came to america before Pokemon did.
You looked at this purely from an American point of view.
I don't know if the creating a franchise to market merch to kids market existed back then. I'm pretty sure Pokemon created it
That's a new one, someone thinking Pokemon invented the concept of a franchise marketing merch to kids. That's like saying Pokemon invented turn based RPGs.
Too complicated??? Sounds like a skill issue to think
Great video mate keep it up
Thank you! Slow and steady
This is really desinformative...Digimon has not failed,Its Target is different Now and its very popular in Japan,Also the TCG surpassed the Pokémon one Too
Not gonna lie kinda got triggered XD . I love digimon and while Pokemon is in no doubt the more successfulbut it's also one of the most successful franchises ever so digiomon being less popular doesn't make it a failure. And I don't know about Yu gi oh . Yeah their card game is definitely more popular but digimon excelles over ygo in almost every other department. Anime , games , action figures besides , there's a whole world out there besides the US lol . I assure you it's huge in Japan and in so many other parts of the world
While a commercial failure in the US, I don't think it's bad. I actually think it was too good for American audiences
@@MediaPhilosophy it failed cause ir was more complicated than pokemon
@@MediaPhilosophy what is the digimon world pokemon world is simple
@@yarc9it's a digital world, obviously.
Summary: Low viewership and interests.
Except it didn’t fail it’s still an ongoing franchise
Yes but its just a minority
Not majority
@@LMGamerz40 There is few things partaken by the 'majority' of people.
@@RippahRooJizahyes but asians not western
2 mins in and I just know…
This man really doesn’t know what he’s talking about does he 😂
Just because it wasn't as popular, doesn't mean it failed bucko.
We love Digimon over here.
Do some real research next time.
And the Digimon are the champions, not the humans.
Respectfully
LET THAT NIGGA KNOW!!!!!!!
Lmfao. You get a gold star 🌟
I love Digimon too. Just no one is going to click on a video titled "Digimon is ok" lol
@@MediaPhilosophy in pokemon humans are the champions
@@yarc9
In yu-gi-oh humans wield magic cards that possibly contain eldritch abominations
off topic
but screw digimon fans
if aids can take humen form
digimon fans are that
Digimon sucks get over it lmaoo
Big facts , worse mon design of any series why do poeple like this garbage lmaooYugioh and Pokemon all day designs, games, anime any metric that's number 1&2 💯 , any other answer is just false or preference unnobjectionable fact. 😂
Sounds like retardation
digimon is just garbage cant really get into it without getting bored.
Falsehood.
Ok Boomer
Sounds like a skill issue
@@Wariosdigi-farm cool
Digimon sucks ass Godzilla is superior
Some Digimon came from Godzilla fun fact look up Digimon virtual pet version. 5 1997
if u like digmon I'm so sorry but I love pokemon
You have awful taste and should be ashamed of yourself lmao. Pokemon is the goyslop of vidya.
You don't need to be sorry he loves Peck things
Ok Boomer
You could not sound any more bitter over the pokemon series becoming a laughing stock than you are now, all while every other monster taming series is thriving with Digimon leading the pack. Stay in your containment franchise and seethe.