I actually learned on an PNG 910b which is a very similar wing to that one, 910 mm span, 1267 sqcm, 6.8 AR. I actually found it easier to learn on than my bigger foils because the dock I had access to had no overhang. The compact 910 mm span allowed me a much easier time to get a nice run to start. Once I was able to pump it a short distance I quickly changed to a bigger wing so I could pump longer though.
Thanks for the video! I really liked the concept of connecting to the foil when pumping via the back leg. I believe it also applies to bigger and HA foils when you are going/starting slow. For now I am sticking to my Sirus XXL setup until I can pass the 40 second mark consistently (and possibly get to the coveted 1 minute). I might experiment with lowering the mast from 79HM to 65 (unfortunately Alu) as I have a floating dock. After that on my to do list there is trying the Fluid XLT...
@@pierpa thanks for your message!! Yes you’re right, this concept is relevant for the bigger and HA foils 👍 but since there is more lift this is not that critical if you press on your front foot. For a smaller one staying connected to your foil with your back leg is essential! Good plan 👍 always good to try different kinds of setup! Have fun 😉
I understand the struggle here. I wasted well over a month trying to learn to dockstart a Fluid XXLT (1850cm²). I could hand it to lightweight experienced foilers and they could rip on it, but it was impossible for me at 185lbs. The problem is the low volume of the wing, it's narrow profile doesn't give it the low speed lift I need for my slow starts. The moment I swapped to a Curve XLT with only 100cm² extra area, but far more volume, I started to make immediate progress.
@@AdamsHadEnough yes, the Fluid T FWs are not the easiest to get started, quite small thickness! I started with the X-Over XXL then the Fluid XXLT. Thanks for sharing your experience :)
@@stefker5221 merci pour ton message !! Ça dépend de la hauteur du ponton ! Un comme celui dans la vidéo un mât de 85cm serait encore plus facile. Plus on est courbé plus c’est difficile de démarrer. Pour ponton au niveau de l’eau un mât de 65cm fonctionne bien, et plus facile pour beach start aussi. Une fois lancé, plus le mât est court plus c’est facile de sentir le foil et pomper efficacement.
I learned one thing! Übung macht Meister! You can achieve anything in life by concentrating and never giving up
@@robertodefilippo1867 exactly 🙌🏼👍
Another very interesting video from you! Many thanks for your tests! 👍👍
@@RPlaschka Thank you! Much appreciated :)
I actually learned on an PNG 910b which is a very similar wing to that one, 910 mm span, 1267 sqcm, 6.8 AR. I actually found it easier to learn on than my bigger foils because the dock I had access to had no overhang. The compact 910 mm span allowed me a much easier time to get a nice run to start. Once I was able to pump it a short distance I quickly changed to a bigger wing so I could pump longer though.
@@slappysurf Thanks for sharing your experience! Very interesting 🙌🏼
Respect! Very nice, looks very fast👌
@@matzeman6000 Danke Matze 😊
Un grand merci pour cette vidéo que je voulais te demander puisque j utilise une low aspect ratio et ma motivation parfois elle disparaît 😌😂
Thanks for the video! I really liked the concept of connecting to the foil when pumping via the back leg. I believe it also applies to bigger and HA foils when you are going/starting slow. For now I am sticking to my Sirus XXL setup until I can pass the 40 second mark consistently (and possibly get to the coveted 1 minute). I might experiment with lowering the mast from 79HM to 65 (unfortunately Alu) as I have a floating dock. After that on my to do list there is trying the Fluid XLT...
@@pierpa thanks for your message!!
Yes you’re right, this concept is relevant for the bigger and HA foils 👍 but since there is more lift this is not that critical if you press on your front foot. For a smaller one staying connected to your foil with your back leg is essential!
Good plan 👍 always good to try different kinds of setup! Have fun 😉
I think running longer to go faster helps, at least for me it does launching small foils.
@@JoshWiden yes, it didn’t work for me yet though. Need to keep trying. 3 explosive steps were more efficient so far ;)
I understand the struggle here. I wasted well over a month trying to learn to dockstart a Fluid XXLT (1850cm²). I could hand it to lightweight experienced foilers and they could rip on it, but it was impossible for me at 185lbs. The problem is the low volume of the wing, it's narrow profile doesn't give it the low speed lift I need for my slow starts. The moment I swapped to a Curve XLT with only 100cm² extra area, but far more volume, I started to make immediate progress.
@@AdamsHadEnough yes, the Fluid T FWs are not the easiest to get started, quite small thickness! I started with the X-Over XXL then the Fluid XXLT.
Thanks for sharing your experience :)
Génial, encore une vidéo au top. Bon pour commencer, le mât de 65 n'est pas une bonne idée 😂. Mais est-ce que le mât de 85 serait plus facile?
@@stefker5221 merci pour ton message !! Ça dépend de la hauteur du ponton ! Un comme celui dans la vidéo un mât de 85cm serait encore plus facile. Plus on est courbé plus c’est difficile de démarrer.
Pour ponton au niveau de l’eau un mât de 65cm fonctionne bien, et plus facile pour beach start aussi. Une fois lancé, plus le mât est court plus c’est facile de sentir le foil et pomper efficacement.
@Ludo_freefoiler super, merci pour les infos 🤙
Slt, super vidéo ! Pourquoi tu mets un haut blanc ? C'est pour éviter les coupures ? C'est un haut en coton où un lycra classique ?
@@arborhome9330 merci ☺️
C’est un Lycra normale, je le mets parce que ma combi a une déchirure sur l’épaule 👍
@@Ludo_freefoiler ok merci pour l'info ;)