Merci beaucoup pour le partage des résultats de tes tests, et ton expérience dans ce type de conditions. Et merci surtout pour tout ce travail réalisé 👌🙏
Hi ludovic, I want to ask you a question. I'm a winger and i want to learn also pumping (beach start mainly). I want to buy the sirus v3 generation (there is the foil setup on the gong website) but I don't know what size of front to buy and what size of stab of the type fluid h v3 to buy. Thanks
I'm 64kg. I want to learn pumping starting from the beach and then when I have learned I want to use this setup both for pumping and winging in light wind condition. I was thinking tu buy the sirus v3 xl front wing with 136cm wingspan but I don't know if it is too small or too large. Thank you
@ yes, the Sirus xl is a good one! If you want something easier to get started, the Curve H 3XL might be a good option. For the stab, I haven’t used the V3 stabs yet. Depending on the frontwing you take, there are tables on the gong website where there give you recommendations to choose the stab.
Merci pour ce comparatif très instructif ! Je viens de prendre une sirus xl 136 que j'utilise avec le stab freestyle 41. Mon objectif est de partir à l'arrêt (ladder ou rockstart). J'ai fait 2 sessions à essayer des départs à l'échelle avec une technique proche de la tienne sur la vidéo avec la chaise sur le coté ... et pour le moment je n'y arrive pas. Penses tu qu'un stab + gros type sirus 45 ou veloce h47 pourrait apporter un plus pour les départs à l'arrêt ? Merci !
@@Wateryann Merci pour ton message ! Oui un stab plus gros sera plus facile. Mais peut être que ça marchera après quelques autres sessions avec celui que tu as déjà ? Tu commences tout juste le pumping ? Ou tu as déjà de l’expérience en dock start classique ?
@@Ludo_freefoiler .Je faisait 25 secondes environ avec mon foil de surffoil (curve xlh 1300) sur un ponton. Comme j'étais pénalisé par mon pumping en surffoil j'ai décidé de me mettre au dock afin de progresser. Comme en plus, chez nous c'est compliqué de ne pas se faire jeter des pontons, j'ai opté pour la pour la sirus xl afin de partir à l'arrêt et de ne plus être embêté ... J'ai fait 2 sessions de départ à l'arrêt et 3 session de dock avec la sirus xl. J'ai amélioré mon temps en passant à 35/40 secondes mais je n'ai pas réussi à partir à l'échelle ... Je ressent bien la portance mais je n'arrive pas à transformer ma hauteur de départ en vitesse ...
@ merci pour partager ton expérience 🙌🏼👍 c’est une belle progression ! Ça va aller de mieux en mieux au fur et à mesure des sessions !!! Très bon entraînement pour le surffoil 😁 loin de la mer, je n’ai pas la possibilité de pratiquer beaucoup
@@Ludo_freefoiler L'autre jour j'ai croisé un gars en surffoil sur la plage. Il était bien meilleur que moi et il m'a dit qu'il habitait dans les terres et n'avait presque jamais l'occasion de surfer ... Le truc, c'est qu'il faisait beaucoup de dockstart. Moralité ... il faut se méfier des gars qui habitent loin de la mer 😁
Hi thanks for the video, useful! I am riding the veloce 47h with sirus v2 xl and was considering to buy a stab sirus xl to (maybe) pump longer. The sirus 50 is longer (5cm) than the veloce h47, does it make a big difference in your opinion? Can you reduce the pump frequency (pump maybe longer?) or they are very similar stabs? Thanks
@@juanjixx Hi! Thanks for your message! The Sirus xl and the veloce 47h is currently my favourite setup 😁 based on my personal experience I will not recommend something else. I tested the Sirus 50. You have more lift, for me too much, I prefer the veloce 47H, that I am using a lot. How long can you pump with your current setup?
@ hi I can pump a bit over 1 minute with my setup but my stab is a bit damaged and I was thinking to upgrade to Sirus 45 or 50 for that reason and hope to pump longer? but I know its more the technique than the gear… 😅
@ ok! Well yes the training will make the difference, you are going to pump longer and longer. I understand if you « need » to change your damaged stab you are looking for sth more efficient. The veloce 47h is my favourite. But I never tried the Sirus 45. I think it can be a good one! The Sirus 50 is too big for me, but it’s working fine for long distance. No matter which one you choose, use it a lot to get used to it and optimise your pumps ;)
@ thanks for the advice! I weight more than you (73kg) so I will see if I can test Sirus 45 or 50 at some point and that may help me decide if I really “need” :) a new stab. Thanks for your videos and you may need to come pumping to the Ammersee, you should be able to cross it :) (but don’t fall!) :)
I ordered DW board for Supfoiling as I am not agile for dockstarts. I was analysing few months the videos about Gong V2, but now I see most Sirus V2 are not available to buy, so before summer I will be buying all V3. But I have noticed that most efficient masts 15mm are not supporting wings above 150cm, and also due to new eficient designs all stabs significanty decrieased in size. What used to be 44cm wingspan (250 surface) size M, now is at the 3XL range, and new V3 M is only 35cm wingspan (150cm surface). I hope someone will test that new V3 range feelings and comparability to V2. Also new pump foils Trail and Ultra Trail on the way from Gong......
@@ramunasbajorinas7686 yes, you are totally right, this looks all different with the V3 designs… I haven’t had the chance to test the V3 FW and stabs yet... And yes the Trail and Ultra Trail are coming. We need to be patient…
I have the impression, it is the other way around. The smaller the Stab, the easier for long distance. Less drag and less power necessary to move the stab up and down. I use a Condor XL front and Condor xs stab from Indiana. But I will try a big Stab und compare! 👍🏼 We will see!
@@martinellenberger3274 thanks for sharing your experience! To pump for a long distance I need to reduce the frequency having more glide to control my heart rate. A bigger stab allows it for me. I limit then the drag and the needed power by optimising my pump technique: little low energy pumps. It worked very well for me but I guess there are different ways to pump. Important is to feel good. Maybe it depending on the setups as well… I haven’t tested the Condor XL yet.
I was surprised about your conclusion also, based on other stab comparisons like ua-cam.com/video/kecn9bYY59g/v-deo.html . That a small stab can be more efficient as long as you are precise enough. I'm curious too about how you would experience not using a stab at all! (like ua-cam.com/video/aTKHxKDcfGY/v-deo.html )
@ Thanks for your message! Well, based on my experience with the V2 Gong gear, I don’t share this point of view. This sport is new, different kinds of material and obviously way of pumping. No big deal, it means different kinds of setup are working fine and it’s good 👍 I did my first long rides this year, still learning and I will test other setups so my point of view might evolve as the material/technique are evolving as well ;) But again so far for me (my personal feeling) the big veloce stab 47H is the best for long distance (I’m speaking for more than one hour!) and for the freestyle moves as well! The most important is to use your setup as often as you can to get used to it, know it very well to get the best out of it! Never tried without a stab, might be funny to give a try ;)
Merci beaucoup pour le partage des résultats de tes tests, et ton expérience dans ce type de conditions. Et merci surtout pour tout ce travail réalisé 👌🙏
@@fabrhe merci pour ton message 😊😊🫶🏼
Amazing comparison!!! 🎉
Thank you! 😁
I enjoyed your comparisons and insight on the V2 range. I will use your valuable information to help decide on a new stab. Thanks 🤙
@@jeromesurffoil7033 thank you for your feedback! 😊
Hi ludovic, I want to ask you a question. I'm a winger and i want to learn also pumping (beach start mainly). I want to buy the sirus v3 generation (there is the foil setup on the gong website) but I don't know what size of front to buy and what size of stab of the type fluid h v3 to buy.
Thanks
@@robinson3848 Hi! What’s your weight? Do you want to use this setup for light wind conditions?
I'm 64kg. I want to learn pumping starting from the beach and then when I have learned I want to use this setup both for pumping and winging in light wind condition. I was thinking tu buy the sirus v3 xl front wing with 136cm wingspan but I don't know if it is too small or too large. Thank you
@ yes, the Sirus xl is a good one! If you want something easier to get started, the Curve H 3XL might be a good option. For the stab, I haven’t used the V3 stabs yet. Depending on the frontwing you take, there are tables on the gong website where there give you recommendations to choose the stab.
Merci pour ce comparatif très instructif ! Je viens de prendre une sirus xl 136 que j'utilise avec le stab freestyle 41. Mon objectif est de partir à l'arrêt (ladder ou rockstart). J'ai fait 2 sessions à essayer des départs à l'échelle avec une technique proche de la tienne sur la vidéo avec la chaise sur le coté ... et pour le moment je n'y arrive pas. Penses tu qu'un stab + gros type sirus 45 ou veloce h47 pourrait apporter un plus pour les départs à l'arrêt ?
Merci !
@@Wateryann Merci pour ton message !
Oui un stab plus gros sera plus facile. Mais peut être que ça marchera après quelques autres sessions avec celui que tu as déjà ? Tu commences tout juste le pumping ? Ou tu as déjà de l’expérience en dock start classique ?
@@Ludo_freefoiler .Je faisait 25 secondes environ avec mon foil de surffoil (curve xlh 1300) sur un ponton. Comme j'étais pénalisé par mon pumping en surffoil j'ai décidé de me mettre au dock afin de progresser. Comme en plus, chez nous c'est compliqué de ne pas se faire jeter des pontons, j'ai opté pour la pour la sirus xl afin de partir à l'arrêt et de ne plus être embêté ...
J'ai fait 2 sessions de départ à l'arrêt et 3 session de dock avec la sirus xl. J'ai amélioré mon temps en passant à 35/40 secondes mais je n'ai pas réussi à partir à l'échelle ... Je ressent bien la portance mais je n'arrive pas à transformer ma hauteur de départ en vitesse ...
@ merci pour partager ton expérience 🙌🏼👍 c’est une belle progression ! Ça va aller de mieux en mieux au fur et à mesure des sessions !!! Très bon entraînement pour le surffoil 😁 loin de la mer, je n’ai pas la possibilité de pratiquer beaucoup
@@Ludo_freefoiler L'autre jour j'ai croisé un gars en surffoil sur la plage. Il était bien meilleur que moi et il m'a dit qu'il habitait dans les terres et n'avait presque jamais l'occasion de surfer ... Le truc, c'est qu'il faisait beaucoup de dockstart. Moralité ... il faut se méfier des gars qui habitent loin de la mer 😁
@@Wateryann 😅 c’est sur que le dockstart / Beachstart c’est un super entraînement pour le surffoil. J’aurais l’occasion de tester ça au mois d’avril
Hi thanks for the video, useful! I am riding the veloce 47h with sirus v2 xl and was considering to buy a stab sirus xl to (maybe) pump longer. The sirus 50 is longer (5cm) than the veloce h47, does it make a big difference in your opinion? Can you reduce the pump frequency (pump maybe longer?) or they are very similar stabs? Thanks
@@juanjixx Hi! Thanks for your message!
The Sirus xl and the veloce 47h is currently my favourite setup 😁 based on my personal experience I will not recommend something else. I tested the Sirus 50. You have more lift, for me too much, I prefer the veloce 47H, that I am using a lot. How long can you pump with your current setup?
@ hi I can pump a bit over 1 minute with my setup but my stab is a bit damaged and I was thinking to upgrade to Sirus 45 or 50 for that reason and hope to pump longer? but I know its more the technique than the gear… 😅
@ ok! Well yes the training will make the difference, you are going to pump longer and longer. I understand if you « need » to change your damaged stab you are looking for sth more efficient. The veloce 47h is my favourite. But I never tried the Sirus 45. I think it can be a good one! The Sirus 50 is too big for me, but it’s working fine for long distance.
No matter which one you choose, use it a lot to get used to it and optimise your pumps ;)
@ thanks for the advice! I weight more than you (73kg) so I will see if I can test Sirus 45 or 50 at some point and that may help me decide if I really “need” :) a new stab. Thanks for your videos and you may need to come pumping to the Ammersee, you should be able to cross it :) (but don’t fall!) :)
I ordered DW board for Supfoiling as I am not agile for dockstarts.
I was analysing few months the videos about Gong V2, but now I see most Sirus V2 are not available to buy, so before summer I will be buying all V3.
But I have noticed that most efficient masts 15mm are not supporting wings above 150cm, and also due to new eficient designs all stabs significanty decrieased in size. What used to be 44cm wingspan (250 surface) size M, now is at the 3XL range, and new V3 M is only 35cm wingspan (150cm surface).
I hope someone will test that new V3 range feelings and comparability to V2.
Also new pump foils Trail and Ultra Trail on the way from Gong......
@@ramunasbajorinas7686 yes, you are totally right, this looks all different with the V3 designs… I haven’t had the chance to test the V3 FW and stabs yet... And yes the Trail and Ultra Trail are coming. We need to be patient…
I have the impression, it is the other way around. The smaller the Stab, the easier for long distance. Less drag and less power necessary to move the stab up and down. I use a Condor XL front and Condor xs stab from Indiana. But I will try a big Stab und compare! 👍🏼 We will see!
@@martinellenberger3274 thanks for sharing your experience! To pump for a long distance I need to reduce the frequency having more glide to control my heart rate. A bigger stab allows it for me. I limit then the drag and the needed power by optimising my pump technique: little low energy pumps. It worked very well for me but I guess there are different ways to pump. Important is to feel good. Maybe it depending on the setups as well… I haven’t tested the Condor XL yet.
Je vais te raconter mon expérience dans quelques semaines. Salutations de Zurich. Martin
@ Super 🙌🏼 Hâte d’avoir ton feedback ;)
I was surprised about your conclusion also, based on other stab comparisons like ua-cam.com/video/kecn9bYY59g/v-deo.html . That a small stab can be more efficient as long as you are precise enough. I'm curious too about how you would experience not using a stab at all! (like ua-cam.com/video/aTKHxKDcfGY/v-deo.html )
@ Thanks for your message!
Well, based on my experience with the V2 Gong gear, I don’t share this point of view. This sport is new, different kinds of material and obviously way of pumping. No big deal, it means different kinds of setup are working fine and it’s good 👍
I did my first long rides this year, still learning and I will test other setups so my point of view might evolve as the material/technique are evolving as well ;)
But again so far for me (my personal feeling) the big veloce stab 47H is the best for long distance (I’m speaking for more than one hour!) and for the freestyle moves as well!
The most important is to use your setup as often as you can to get used to it, know it very well to get the best out of it!
Never tried without a stab, might be funny to give a try ;)