The Tigers did this while being one of the youngest teams in baseball. Teams do have windows, the Tigers window is nowhere close to closed. You just sound salty. @@Marco11-e1k
Just look at the playoff odds of the Twins compared to the Tigers! That’s how quickly a season can change! Similar to the 2021 Padres playoff odds compared to the Cardinals!
I know Fangraphs said the Twins had a 95% chance of making the playoffs, but I guarantee that ZERO Twins fans thought that was an accurate number. We all feared a collapse - we got one.
This is how I view every team I'm a fan of. I just assume they will lose/blow every lead. I am either never disappointed, or my expectations are exceeded.
@@monabiehl6213 I remember this happening to us in Game 5 of the 1972 ALCS vs the A's...then sweeping the A's in revenge served cold in the 2006 ALCS....after the A's had swept the Twins in the ALDS. I was in attendance for that 2-1 loss in '72. It was the ALCS that featured the infamous Campaneris bat-flinging incident @ Tigers RP Lerrin LaGrow...after he hit Campy on his ankle.
I don't know. I don't think the Tigers have ever really collapsed. 2006 was sort of bad towards the very end of the season, but we still made a wild card (THE wild card back then) and got to the WS
@damianlang5654 1972 was really difficult. A couple days after the Tigers lost to Oakland, my grandmother got sick and died two months later. The 1972 ALDS is a reminder. I lived I. Alaska and at that time the games were even broadcast on the radio.
@@chrisk19791the only notable season collapse i can remember the Tigers having was in 2009. The tigers had the division lead for 146 days and had a 3 game lead with 4 games left. They lost the lead ending with a tiebreaker with the Twins which lead to game 163. The tigers then blew the lead in game 163 and were eliminated from the playoffs. It was a bad collapse but it was forgotten because the Tigers went on to 3 straight ALCS appearances in the early 2010s
@@shiftygypsy89migh41 Nah, our team is a complete laughing stock. I'd rather be a fan of an obscure team than one of the worst teams in history XD
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The problem with MIN is they have way too many part time players in their lineup. They platoon everybody and 3 of their best players play 50 games per year in Buxton, Lewis and Correa.
DBACKs is explainable though. The pitching staff was injured the majority of the year and the starters haven’t looked great even when they have played. This has lead to the bullpen being overworked and having a 6.ERA in September.
You know what's really bad? Correa is having a career year. .319/.390/.520 with a 154 OPS+. Oh and he's 87th %-tile in OAA. Sure, those numbers would probably go down a little bit over a full season, but he's hitting the ball hard again, elite plate discipline. And it's all wasted. Byron Buxton's having a great year too. My god, what a waste. Ownership needs to sell the team.
Twins fan here, I would argue that there’s a chance that the Twins fanbase has it worse than Oakland. Think about it, we go on a HORRIFIC postseason losing streak, 20 years later we’re ready for same ol same ol but we actually win a series, then win a game against Houston but lose the series, then the literal SECOND our season ends our owners tell us they’re cutting payroll cause of a TV deal falling though. AND THEN…after the huge momentum of the playoff run before, we go super cheap in free agency, don’t do ANYTHING at the deadline, and then are handcuffed when we have no depth and collapse in the most EMBARRASSING way possible…like that’s “pull the rug out” bad to the fans.
minnesota also slashed payroll and the players they added were all disastrous or they were part time. and their pitchers all got hurt. not the kind of behavior u wanna see from an ownership group esp after ur team just won a playoff series for the first time in 20+ years.
Impeotant to note that correa and buxton were out for the entirety of august and into mid September. Lost their number 2 starter during that time. But injuries aside, the vaunted bullpen was anything but, and our offense never could get everything to click all at once. Its been horrendous.
Twins fan since the beginning, lived in Bloomington from 1960-1967. There’s enough blame to go around but I place the majority of it on the owners. They cheeped out by cutting payroll by 30mill. I think they better rethink that decision.
Basically, ownership believed the fan base was satisfied because the team finally won a playoff series after 20 years. They immediately cut payroll by 30 million, then did nothing at the trade deadline. Combine that with Joe Ryan being lost for the season in early August, Max Kepler going out, Correa being out for almost two months, Buxton missing significant time again, and Lewis doing the slump thing, this collapse wasn't that surprising in retrospect.
I was at the game where Joe Ryan got hurt in Chicago, and I had an overwhelming sense of dread that this was the beginning of the end for them. Not like he was keeping them afloat but it seemed like by that point they just couldn't take another big hit with how inconsistent pitching already was and with the other big injuries. And I was right. Womp womp.
Good summary. You pretty much nailed it. The Twins need to make some significant offseason moves if they want to compete even in their division, which will likely be even better next year. Unfortunately the Pohlads don’t seem interested in fielding a competitive team
They are not going to spend money. They are one of the teams that is losing millions of dollars in TV rights revenue due to the Ball Sports bankruptcy.
The Red Sox were on the outside looking in virtually all season. Disappointing for sure, but being in the playoff picture virtually all season and then pissing all over yourself down the stretch is def worse.
big twins fan here, they didn't deserve playoffs anyways. Even if they made it, they would do absolutely nothing but embarrass themselves. FO cut payroll 30 million right after last years success. Ownership is pitiful.
By early September I decided I really didn't want them to make the playoffs anyway. I was dreading it. At that point, they did not have what it takes to move past the first round and I didn't want yet another year of being swept in the wild card round. Really glad it's looking like a change of ownership is ahead.
@@SimoNico81 agreed, I was rooting for their downfall honestly. Seems like it worked, because as you said, they're trying to sell the team now. I really hope a deal follows in the next months. This year the playoff picture was WIDE OPEN, and they flubbed it big time. They could have been in the ALCS basically playing against other central teams.
Fangraphs had Detroit at a 0.8% chance to make the Playoffs on Aug 11th when there were 10 games out of a wildcard spot, then they went 31-11. So how do you go from that to the best record over that span. Including selling starting pitching at the Trade deadline.
Tigers had all their offense back from injury from that time and their bullpen was putting out the best ERA in the AL since then. Oh and their bullpen was starting pitching multiple starts too.
Twins I'm disappointed in you, I thought you were supposed to be different now. there's a joke that could be made here about Twins and Collapsing but I'll spare you
as a Red Sox fan I had to look somewhere else to root come October so I was shadowing this twins team with quite bit about of $… I loved the line up they lost the juice when Jose Miranda got hurt, Pablo regressed, they were a pop out squad
I'm a Tigers fan and as good as I'm feeling today the Twins fandom has my sincere condolences. And yeah, as great a story as Detroit & KC are and as sad as the Twins & White Sox stories are Cleveland's not getting near the kuddos they deserve for just staying consistently good all year. As white hot as my Tigers got they didn't gain near as much ground to Cleveland.
Agree, as sad as my Twins collapse was to watch, Detroit's tear has been unreal to watch and I'm rooting for them. I cannot root for Cleveland but they have been consistently good all year, I'll give them that. Nice to have solid representation from the AL Central, finally.
Twins fan forever but I am absolutely rooting for your Tigers. Love it when an underdog team goes on a rampage, surprises everyone, and gets to give their fans something special they haven't seen in ages 🙌
Good thing they are committed to injury prone players like Correa and Buxton and even the new guy. 1 in 3 of your starting batting order line-up needs permanent unpredictable replacements year round, then add the potential 4th guy every season. That batting order is doomed under this model.
This collapse had a very similar story to how the 2021 Padres collapsed. Because of the regular season schedule at that time, the Padres literally ONLY played contenders for the final 3 weeks of the regular season. Combine that with the fact that the front office didn’t acquire vital starting pitchers at the trade deadline, and you get a historic collapse. This Twins collapse like the Padres collapse also had 2 parts to it. The declining Twins team combined with the totally unexpected rise of another team. And that team of course is the Tigers. The Padres collapse combined with the totally unexpected rise of the Cardinals who went on a 17 game winning streak in September including a 3 game sweep of those Padres. If the Cardinals and Tigers didn’t go on those historic hot streaks, these similar collapse stories wouldn’t have happened. In some ways it was also like the Cubs last year blowing a 92% chance on September 6th by faltering against playoff teams at the end of the season and couldn’t even beat the Rockies and Pirates in that span. But unlike the Twins and 2021 Padres, the Cubs were not expected to be good last year and were bad for most of the first half of the season anyway. Thanks for explaining the details about this collapse. Basically, you don’t deserve to be a playoff team if you can’t compete with other great teams.
The Chicago Cubs’s bullpen is why the Milwaukee Brewers are heading to the playoffs. They’re so bad, they make the Chicago Bears offensive line look pro bowl caliber.
People forget that schedules are unbalanced and a team can go through large stretches of a season playing poor competition...cubs started against poor competition, were in 1st place, had a few injuries then played a good 40 games against decent competition and went like 10-30, then finished the season against poor competition and will finish above 500
Man, their fans really talked a lot of S about the Astros earlier in the season regarding how poorly they were doing at the time. I sure hope no karmic retribution came from it...
ITalk has not looked good this year at all. He called out Francisco Lindor and got shut up months later, now. He predicted the Twins to make it to the World Series this year even though their record against the big teams was so obvious. I still love your channel ITalk
The mariners collapse was interesting because they blew a 10 game lead but even when they had a 10 game lead, there were a tons of cracks and red flags especially offensively and it felt like most people kinda expected them to fall off because their offensive production was so bad.
@@aquila519 exactly the offense being bad was obvious since the beginning, the twins kept sticking around so I figured they had it figured out. Then the last month happened lol
I’m sorry but all the AL Central teams have inflated records considering they play the white Sox. I think I heard the white Sox only won 3 games combined all year against the: tigers, royals, & twins.
As opposed to the AL West with the. A's and Angels. The. AL east sent 3 teams to the playoffs last year with very good records and didn't win a single playoff game. In short, your point means absolutely nothing.
@@brentmckenzie2793 the Red Sox would’ve made the playoffs if they were in the central it’s not meaningless. Only one team wins a championship & making the playoffs is a sign of doing something right. The A’s have 30 more wins than the white sox. The M’s have 44 more wins than the white sox. The Angels have 24 more wins than the white sox.
Not only did the FO do nothing good in the offseason, they cut payroll by $30 Million after their first playoff success in close to 20 years Well the gaurdians are still going to choke in spectacular fashion
I understand your point here, but only 8 teams in the bigs are +500 against winning teams. And the yanks are BETTER against those teams than they are against losing teams. The White Sox are the same (but that's a low bar). Go figure.
Their best three position players, Buxton, Correa, and Lewis rarely seem to be on the field at the same time because of injuries. However, their starting pitching did not get the job done and their bats went silent down the stretch. It was a major meltdown.
3 out of 5 of their rotation were brand spanking new rookies. People forget that. And all things considered, they actually did alright. Not great but better than I would have expected. Train wreck bullpen and an offense not capitalizing on RISP was such a maddeningly consistent issue. And injuries of our major guys, of course.
@@SimoNico81 Can relate to that. I am a Rays fan and we had the equivalent of an entire starting pitching staff on the IL this year. But I won't use that as an excuse. The offense was anemic in 2024. Hopefully, they get it fixed over the course of the off-season leading into spring training 2025.
I have no dog in the hunt here, but as a Tigers (non-native) fan it got me thinking about the difference between their success and the Twins failure. At least in my calculations, it seems to come down to team dynamics, organizational quirks or conditions and the clubhouse and how the players either fit or don't. Perhaps too many square pegs for a lot of round holes? It feels like the Twins since Kirby Puckett and Joe Mauer have just been "off"; never hitting on all cylinders as an organization. A legacy of injuries to crucial players makes you cringe and wonder what the hell is going on there? It is sad to see such a proud franchise struggle so mightily these days. I hope that whatever it is that is holding the Twins back eventually sorts itself out, whether that is ownership, front office, coaching staff or ?. I miss having a good Twins team.
Tigers fan here. I am glad to see this meltdown by the Twins. But more importantly, please now make a video on how this Tigers team just making the WC is super special with only really 1 star player (Skubal isn't really a actual star yet). I mean I have never seen a team do what they are doing without at 1 star player.
As a Royals fan ,these tigers remind me so much of the 14' team that made it all the way to the world series. Good things happen when you don't scare easily.
The AL Central came out of nowhere this year. I'm a Guardians fan and no one expected anything from them. Not much if the Royals or Tigers either. Respect to them.
What's unfair about the Wild Card is that the Central Division teams all have a ton of free wins against the White Sox. Detroit: 10-1 KC: 12-1 Minnesota: 12-1 The Central Division teams have a few extra wins padding their stats, thanks to the White Sox. Take away those games and only Detroit is above .500 (barely).
I remember when the Twins owner signed future lock HOFer Rod Carew to a Home Team Discount contract. A few days later he said Carew was an idiot for signing it. Good Times. Bring back Billy Heywood !
10:15 I still refuse to call Cleveland by that blasphemous name. They will forever be the Cleveland Indians or Cleveland Baseball club, similar to the Washington Football Team, until sanity returns to major league sports in this country
everyone must align to Blackrock and it's grip on the MLB sponsors. Very leftist indeed, but you have to know the source of the problem. Real-life OCP, fiction has become real-life.
@@bluwlvrine Very confusing statement you are making. Would not the one that forces said name change be the triggered one? Versus you accusing the traditionalist of said nonsense? Someone is doing gaslighting, musta been triggered.
it’s about to happen to the diamondbacks- one of the worst late season collapses that I’ve ever seen as a snakes fan- it’s something thats been brewing since the start of the season… plain and simple, pitching was our Achilles heel.
Honestly, this is exactly what our owner deserves. 2023: your team is the most relevant it’s been in a decade and snap the playoff drought. 2024: cut payroll to one of the worst in baseball, and do fuck all to improve the roster. Not even mentioning the Minnesota can’t even watch their team this year on TV. I’m no longer supporting this team until he sells the team. But he’ll move it LONG before he sells it
The Detroit Tigers tonight are chanting loudly tonight, chants that can be heard all the way up to Minnesota! "We want more Beer! We want more Beer! Get more Beer! Pour more Beer! Down more Beer! Bless you Boys! Twins, what a MESS, Boys!
Yeah… it’s unfortunate, and they didn’t have enough room for error last night either. And the injuries didn’t help the Twins either, especially with losing Lewis during the 1st game of the season
Get ready to make one for the diamondbacks, cause last Saturday we had 98% chance to make the playoffs and blew and 8-0 lead on sunday which lead to us falling apart.
You would have to have the worst team in MLB history in your division to look worst than the Twins do right now but what are the odds of that happening in 2024? White Sox: *Even the Dimest light can shine over us*
cries in carlos correa
W
by banging a trashcan ?
by banging a trashcan ?
I would be totally fine with Carlos Correa never playing in a World Series ever again until he returns the ring he won by cheating.
the Royals made it in but not the Twins💀
What is crazy is that the Tigers (of which I am a fan) had to go on a historic winning streak to get to this point
A historic winning streak always has a historic collapse on the other side of it
The Tigers did this while being one of the youngest teams in baseball. Teams do have windows, the Tigers window is nowhere close to closed. You just sound salty. @@Marco11-e1k
@@Marco11-e1kalways is a word that's used too often
We'll see
Just look at the playoff odds of the Twins compared to the Tigers! That’s how quickly a season can change! Similar to the 2021 Padres playoff odds compared to the Cardinals!
Something the tigers have never seen
I know Fangraphs said the Twins had a 95% chance of making the playoffs, but I guarantee that ZERO Twins fans thought that was an accurate number. We all feared a collapse - we got one.
As a genuine Twins fan, this is true
Feared? How about expected. We expect our team to disappoint us. Is hilarious at this point. Never believe in any Minnesota sports team. Ever
Officially eliminated now after losing to Baltimore
But not all the way out with the TIGERS taking their spot!
Well to be fair, the Tigers going on this crazy run for the last month plus didn’t help very much
This is why I love being a Pirates fan. I never have any expectations for them so they can never let me down.
Twins fans go through it the last 2 decades. Finally break that 18 game playoff streak and then we witness this.....😭
Same here as an Angels fan.
@warbirdtbf at least you guys got a world series in my lifetime. Born in 1996
@@ZeusMcCormick HA! Your Pirates are always beating and sweeping my Tigers!
This is how I view every team I'm a fan of. I just assume they will lose/blow every lead. I am either never disappointed, or my expectations are exceeded.
The Twins missing the postseason means The Yankees will only get one bye round instead of two.
Welp my Yankees wanted that
Twins fan here, and yeah, tbh i agree with that statement
As another Twins fan this is an absolute FIRE joke 😂 👌
It's funny because it's true!
Oh my god this has me dying.
As a tigers fan, it’s so lovely for this to not happen to us for once
I remember 1987, 2006 and 2009.
@@monabiehl6213 I remember this happening to us in Game 5 of the 1972 ALCS vs the A's...then sweeping the A's in revenge served cold in the 2006 ALCS....after the A's had swept the Twins in the ALDS.
I was in attendance for that 2-1 loss in '72. It was the ALCS that featured the infamous Campaneris bat-flinging incident @ Tigers RP Lerrin LaGrow...after he hit Campy on his ankle.
I don't know. I don't think the Tigers have ever really collapsed. 2006 was sort of bad towards the very end of the season, but we still made a wild card (THE wild card back then) and got to the WS
@damianlang5654 1972 was really difficult. A couple days after the Tigers lost to Oakland, my grandmother got sick and died two months later. The 1972 ALDS is a reminder. I lived I. Alaska and at that time the games were even broadcast on the radio.
@@chrisk19791the only notable season collapse i can remember the Tigers having was in 2009. The tigers had the division lead for 146 days and had a 3 game lead with 4 games left. They lost the lead ending with a tiebreaker with the Twins which lead to game 163. The tigers then blew the lead in game 163 and were eliminated from the playoffs. It was a bad collapse but it was forgotten because the Tigers went on to 3 straight ALCS appearances in the early 2010s
Doesn’t help that ownership slashed payroll by 30 million right off the back of the first successful season in 20 years.
You know Trev Plouffe is having an aneurism.
And PLOUFFE he was gone.
Being a twins fan is pain man
Bars
Or being a Minnesota fan in general 😢🍺
Try being a White Sox fan.
@@sergioortega5954 What do you mean? We got a record. The Twin this year will disappear into obscurity.
@@shiftygypsy89migh41 Nah, our team is a complete laughing stock. I'd rather be a fan of an obscure team than one of the worst teams in history XD
The problem with MIN is they have way too many part time players in their lineup. They platoon everybody and 3 of their best players play 50 games per year in Buxton, Lewis and Correa.
We literally dig in the bargain bin for players
Buxton played over 100 games this season.
I'm a bit mad at the DBacks dropping games to teams they should beat, but the Twins collapse is on another level.
DBACKs is explainable though. The pitching staff was injured the majority of the year and the starters haven’t looked great even when they have played. This has lead to the bullpen being overworked and having a 6.ERA in September.
You know what's really bad? Correa is having a career year. .319/.390/.520 with a 154 OPS+. Oh and he's 87th %-tile in OAA. Sure, those numbers would probably go down a little bit over a full season, but he's hitting the ball hard again, elite plate discipline. And it's all wasted. Byron Buxton's having a great year too. My god, what a waste. Ownership needs to sell the team.
Ownership needs to sell players who don't play.
2007 New York Mets = 2024 Minnesota Twins
Miss the playoffs after getting beat by the Marlins: ✅
Wow, how ironic.
I was gonna say, the last teams to have an epic collapse like this were the 07 Mets and 2011 Red Sox.
2008 Mets say hi!
2011 Braves
Correa failing to hustle as the 27th out sort of tells you everything, especially when he accused his teammates of dogging it.
Yeah idk how to feel about that. He's always hurt and his foot seems to have issues but you have a point
He is running with one leg.
@luiscruz3261 He slowed to a stop midway. If he ran at the same slow speed he beats it out because it was a wild throw. Legs are no excuse.
Twins fan here, I would argue that there’s a chance that the Twins fanbase has it worse than Oakland. Think about it, we go on a HORRIFIC postseason losing streak, 20 years later we’re ready for same ol same ol but we actually win a series, then win a game against Houston but lose the series, then the literal SECOND our season ends our owners tell us they’re cutting payroll cause of a TV deal falling though. AND THEN…after the huge momentum of the playoff run before, we go super cheap in free agency, don’t do ANYTHING at the deadline, and then are handcuffed when we have no depth and collapse in the most EMBARRASSING way possible…like that’s “pull the rug out” bad to the fans.
Twins and Mariners collapse off
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Mariners offense: *never shows up all season long*
@@therealjaystone2344 Julio likes to ball out in the second half but this year he took the year off I guess
@@basedjenny7362oooooh that’s an interesting bat there……oh wait
@@basedjenny7362he came back the last month
Seasonal depression starts early and hits hard in Minnesota
minnesota also slashed payroll and the players they added were all disastrous or they were part time. and their pitchers all got hurt. not the kind of behavior u wanna see from an ownership group esp after ur team just won a playoff series for the first time in 20+ years.
Impeotant to note that correa and buxton were out for the entirety of august and into mid September. Lost their number 2 starter during that time.
But injuries aside, the vaunted bullpen was anything but, and our offense never could get everything to click all at once.
Its been horrendous.
Twins fan since the beginning, lived in Bloomington from 1960-1967. There’s enough blame to go around but I place the majority of it on the owners. They cheeped out by cutting payroll by 30mill. I think they better rethink that decision.
Let’s go tigers 🐅 🐅🐅
Basically, ownership believed the fan base was satisfied because the team finally won a playoff series after 20 years. They immediately cut payroll by 30 million, then did nothing at the trade deadline. Combine that with Joe Ryan being lost for the season in early August, Max Kepler going out, Correa being out for almost two months, Buxton missing significant time again, and Lewis doing the slump thing, this collapse wasn't that surprising in retrospect.
I was at the game where Joe Ryan got hurt in Chicago, and I had an overwhelming sense of dread that this was the beginning of the end for them. Not like he was keeping them afloat but it seemed like by that point they just couldn't take another big hit with how inconsistent pitching already was and with the other big injuries. And I was right. Womp womp.
Good summary. You pretty much nailed it. The Twins need to make some significant offseason moves if they want to compete even in their division, which will likely be even better next year. Unfortunately the Pohlads don’t seem interested in fielding a competitive team
They are not going to spend money. They are one of the teams that is losing millions of dollars in TV rights revenue due to the Ball Sports bankruptcy.
The Carlos Correa years without another ring streak continues...
Tye tigers deserve a video at this point. They just went from a 0.2% chance to make the playoffs to clinching the wild card.
The Twins pulled a 2011 Red Sox with that collapse
2021 padres
There’s no way it was as bad as the 2011 Red Sox. They had a 9 game lead and didn’t even make the playoffs
@@bigpictureguys8415It is worse, we had an eleven game lead on Detroit at one point
@@basementbaseballleaguebbl3709 in September tho?
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There has been a couple teams that have been a let down after the All Star break.
As an A’s fan, “Twins collapse” is like a warm, rich mug of cocoa
Geez you’re *still* bitter about how the Moneyball season ended?
This is spank material for us Tribe fans
I wish you did the shit talk video about the Boston Red Sox
The Red Sox were on the outside looking in virtually all season. Disappointing for sure, but being in the playoff picture virtually all season and then pissing all over yourself down the stretch is def worse.
I read 'collapse' and I thought the video was gonna be about the Seattle Mariners.
Cubs fans: First Time?
Hahaha! Well said! I'm a Cub fan - exactly what I was thinking... It all started in 1969... 😭😄😂🤣
Indians fans don't want to hear the Cubs talk anymore. We even choked our name away to some bridge statues after we lost a 3-1 WS lead to THE CUBS.
@@sortofanoakyafterbirth3661 we are tiny bears and you’re upset that you’re badass looking lord of the rings statues….k.
nah Minnesota sports are well versed in choking when we are doing good, sadly
big twins fan here, they didn't deserve playoffs anyways. Even if they made it, they would do absolutely nothing but embarrass themselves. FO cut payroll 30 million right after last years success. Ownership is pitiful.
By early September I decided I really didn't want them to make the playoffs anyway. I was dreading it. At that point, they did not have what it takes to move past the first round and I didn't want yet another year of being swept in the wild card round. Really glad it's looking like a change of ownership is ahead.
@@SimoNico81 agreed, I was rooting for their downfall honestly. Seems like it worked, because as you said, they're trying to sell the team now. I really hope a deal follows in the next months. This year the playoff picture was WIDE OPEN, and they flubbed it big time. They could have been in the ALCS basically playing against other central teams.
Fangraphs had Detroit at a 0.8% chance to make the Playoffs on Aug 11th when there were 10 games out of a wildcard spot, then they went 31-11. So how do you go from that to the best record over that span. Including selling starting pitching at the Trade deadline.
Tigers had all their offense back from injury from that time and their bullpen was putting out the best ERA in the AL since then. Oh and their bullpen was starting pitching multiple starts too.
Twins I'm disappointed in you, I thought you were supposed to be different now. there's a joke that could be made here about Twins and Collapsing but I'll spare you
I'd probably give the joke a 9 out of 11
KAT being traded away. Minnesota Sports is Suffering.
Nahhh we got naz reid
IF The Vikings lose to the Packers, then it is Complete!
Welp, uh the vikings keep their what is it? 7 game winning streak going back to last playoffs@@jimnfl7134
New NBA rules fucked over the wolves
@@jimnfl7134 did my comment disappear
as a Red Sox fan I had to look somewhere else to root come October so I was shadowing this twins team with quite bit about of $… I loved the line up they lost the juice when Jose Miranda got hurt, Pablo regressed, they were a pop out squad
Wow how the Patriots have fallen
I'm a Tigers fan and as good as I'm feeling today the Twins fandom has my sincere condolences. And yeah, as great a story as Detroit & KC are and as sad as the Twins & White Sox stories are Cleveland's not getting near the kuddos they deserve for just staying consistently good all year. As white hot as my Tigers got they didn't gain near as much ground to Cleveland.
Agree, as sad as my Twins collapse was to watch, Detroit's tear has been unreal to watch and I'm rooting for them. I cannot root for Cleveland but they have been consistently good all year, I'll give them that. Nice to have solid representation from the AL Central, finally.
I'm just here being a Tigers fan happy to see them play playoff ball since I was in 4th grade. Sorry Twins
Twins fan forever but I am absolutely rooting for your Tigers. Love it when an underdog team goes on a rampage, surprises everyone, and gets to give their fans something special they haven't seen in ages 🙌
Minny paying a debt for the comebacks on the tigers in 06 and 09
Amen. The ‘09 one game playoff loss was one of the most painful Tigers loss in memory
Good thing they are committed to injury prone players like Correa and Buxton and even the new guy. 1 in 3 of your starting batting order line-up needs permanent unpredictable replacements year round, then add the potential 4th guy every season. That batting order is doomed under this model.
Reminiscent of the Mauer Mornaeu era
@@louisminati good point. But much more of em this time. At least they had reliable Torii Hunter during those peak seasons.
Might have to make one of these on the Dbacks too, thought they were a lock for postseason like 3 weeks ago now it’s 1 Mets win away from season over
This collapse had a very similar story to how the 2021 Padres collapsed. Because of the regular season schedule at that time, the Padres literally ONLY played contenders for the final 3 weeks of the regular season. Combine that with the fact that the front office didn’t acquire vital starting pitchers at the trade deadline, and you get a historic collapse.
This Twins collapse like the Padres collapse also had 2 parts to it. The declining Twins team combined with the totally unexpected rise of another team. And that team of course is the Tigers. The Padres collapse combined with the totally unexpected rise of the Cardinals who went on a 17 game winning streak in September including a 3 game sweep of those Padres. If the Cardinals and Tigers didn’t go on those historic hot streaks, these similar collapse stories wouldn’t have happened.
In some ways it was also like the Cubs last year blowing a 92% chance on September 6th by faltering against playoff teams at the end of the season and couldn’t even beat the Rockies and Pirates in that span. But unlike the Twins and 2021 Padres, the Cubs were not expected to be good last year and were bad for most of the first half of the season anyway. Thanks for explaining the details about this collapse. Basically, you don’t deserve to be a playoff team if you can’t compete with other great teams.
RIP KIRBY PUCKETT!
He passed!?
He passed a long time ago
Do a video on the Tigers coming out of nowhere to make the playoffs this year!
You don't think that one is coming?
The Chicago Cubs’s bullpen is why the Milwaukee Brewers are heading to the playoffs.
They’re so bad, they make the Chicago Bears offensive line look pro bowl caliber.
As a Tigers fan: thanks Minny 😁
This is giving me 2018 Dbags vibes
Long winter ahead but how about those VIKINGS!!!!
Giving the mariners a run for their money fr fr
People forget that schedules are unbalanced and a team can go through large stretches of a season playing poor competition...cubs started against poor competition, were in 1st place, had a few injuries then played a good 40 games against decent competition and went like 10-30, then finished the season against poor competition and will finish above 500
Man, their fans really talked a lot of S about the Astros earlier in the season regarding how poorly they were doing at the time. I sure hope no karmic retribution came from it...
To be fair, fans of every team were talking smack about the Astros in the beginning of the season. It's just what everyone does, man.
"Like Superman said to Luke Skywalker in that Marvel Movie." Eh, close enough.
I believe that Cleveland is the most underrated team in the playoffs
At least in the AL
ITalk has not looked good this year at all. He called out Francisco Lindor and got shut up months later, now. He predicted the Twins to make it to the World Series this year even though their record against the big teams was so obvious. I still love your channel ITalk
jazz to ny and hoeing to padres trades as well
@@tylerlucas5773Yeah, those too
As a mariners fan: first time?
as a sox fan: Whats the post season?
That pop up double was so shocking in real time I couldn’t help but laugh 😢
The mariners had an epic collapse too. Historic actually.
Talk about the braves situation pls
That Doubleheader might prove to be the highlight of the Dead Sox season.
No twins fans would’ve argued they’re the best team in baseball at any point in the season.
So that 66% of the season comment on as untrue
Beginning of the season, everyone was saying who did the Phillies beat?
Twins: hold my beer …
As a Mariner's fan, I send my collapse condolences.
I think the mariners collapse is bigger, but the twins was more of a shock.
The mariners collapse was interesting because they blew a 10 game lead but even when they had a 10 game lead, there were a tons of cracks and red flags especially offensively and it felt like most people kinda expected them to fall off because their offensive production was so bad.
@@aquila519 exactly the offense being bad was obvious since the beginning, the twins kept sticking around so I figured they had it figured out. Then the last month happened lol
@@TheLastPrime38 yep. And it makes it even worse that they allowed the Tigers out of nowhere to take their spot on the wildcard lol
@@aquila519 ya lol it's insane. Also speak of the devil. Sport storm just did a video about the astros and mariners lol
@@TheLastPrime38 I'll have to go watch it. I forgot I was still subscribed to Sport Storm.
"A city that doesn't care about the odds has a baseball team to match." - Jason Benetti
Absolutely beautiful. Eat 'em up tigers eat 'em up!!
I don't think anyone wants to play the Tigers right now
I’m sorry but all the AL Central teams have inflated records considering they play the white Sox. I think I heard the white Sox only won 3 games combined all year against the: tigers, royals, & twins.
Really? LOL
@@shauncameron8390 I looked it up! Almost but I wasn’t quite right.
1-12 vs Twins
1-12 vs Royals
5-8 vs guardians
As opposed to the AL West with the. A's and Angels. The. AL east sent 3 teams to the playoffs last year with very good records and didn't win a single playoff game. In short, your point means absolutely nothing.
@@brentmckenzie2793 the Red Sox would’ve made the playoffs if they were in the central it’s not meaningless. Only one team wins a championship & making the playoffs is a sign of doing something right.
The A’s have 30 more wins than the white sox.
The M’s have 44 more wins than the white sox.
The Angels have 24 more wins than the white sox.
Do you mean the Red Sox that went 16-17 against the AL central this year?
Good video. Facts and not sugar coated. Not enough tigers love.
Thank you for watching. Preciate you!
And...not enough Tigers love because they deserve their own video...😉
Those odds of making the playoffs mean nothing. The same site had the Tigers at less than 1% in August and see what happened there.
Not only did the FO do nothing good in the offseason, they cut payroll by $30 Million after their first playoff success in close to 20 years
Well the gaurdians are still going to choke in spectacular fashion
Their young guys will take them over the hump eventually I believe. I watched these three guys they brought up this year in the Wichita wind surge.
I understand your point here, but only 8 teams in the bigs are +500 against winning teams. And the yanks are BETTER against those teams than they are against losing teams. The White Sox are the same (but that's a low bar). Go figure.
I was extremely sad the Twins didn’t make it.
That was a guaranteed postseason series win for us.
Their best three position players, Buxton, Correa, and Lewis rarely seem to be on the field at the same time because of injuries. However, their starting pitching did not get the job done and their bats went silent down the stretch. It was a major meltdown.
3 out of 5 of their rotation were brand spanking new rookies. People forget that. And all things considered, they actually did alright. Not great but better than I would have expected. Train wreck bullpen and an offense not capitalizing on RISP was such a maddeningly consistent issue. And injuries of our major guys, of course.
@@SimoNico81 Can relate to that. I am a Rays fan and we had the equivalent of an entire starting pitching staff on the IL this year. But I won't use that as an excuse. The offense was anemic in 2024. Hopefully, they get it fixed over the course of the off-season leading into spring training 2025.
I have no dog in the hunt here, but as a Tigers (non-native) fan it got me thinking about the difference between their success and the Twins failure.
At least in my calculations, it seems to come down to team dynamics, organizational quirks or conditions and the clubhouse and how the players either fit or don't. Perhaps too many square pegs for a lot of round holes? It feels like the Twins since Kirby Puckett and Joe Mauer have just been "off"; never hitting on all cylinders as an organization. A legacy of injuries to crucial players makes you cringe and wonder what the hell is going on there?
It is sad to see such a proud franchise struggle so mightily these days. I hope that whatever it is that is holding the Twins back eventually sorts itself out, whether that is ownership, front office, coaching staff or ?. I miss having a good Twins team.
This shit is so funny as a Red Sox fan. Double header killed them.
They lost it long before heading to Boston. Started in Texas. Aug 18
Tigers fan here. I am glad to see this meltdown by the Twins. But more importantly, please now make a video on how this Tigers team just making the WC is super special with only really 1 star player (Skubal isn't really a actual star yet). I mean I have never seen a team do what they are doing without at 1 star player.
Because all the teams they played at the end of the season were either ice cold or flat out suck. The Mariners and Twins collapsing also helped
Good idea 💡
Many of us see Skubal as a star, since he handed out lots of Ls
As a Royals fan ,these tigers remind me so much of the 14' team that made it all the way to the world series. Good things happen when you don't scare easily.
The AL Central came out of nowhere this year. I'm a Guardians fan and no one expected anything from them. Not much if the Royals or Tigers either. Respect to them.
What's unfair about the Wild Card is that the Central Division teams all have a ton of free wins against the White Sox.
Detroit: 10-1
KC: 12-1
Minnesota: 12-1
The Central Division teams have a few extra wins padding their stats, thanks to the White Sox. Take away those games and only Detroit is above .500 (barely).
The Marlins also felled the Brewers in 2022 to knock them out of the playoffs.
It makes me doubt the entire video when they claim "best record in baseball until August 18th" because that's just provably wrong.
I remember when the Twins owner signed future lock HOFer Rod Carew to a Home Team Discount contract. A few days later he said Carew was an idiot for signing it. Good Times.
Bring back Billy Heywood !
I can’t wait for the brewers video
10:15 I still refuse to call Cleveland by that blasphemous name. They will forever be the Cleveland Indians or Cleveland Baseball club, similar to the Washington Football Team, until sanity returns to major league sports in this country
Cleveland is all that matters to me. I get it though. I'm only 15 so I'm not as attached to it as most people. We will always be Cleveland.
everyone must align to Blackrock and it's grip on the MLB sponsors. Very leftist indeed, but you have to know the source of the problem. Real-life OCP, fiction has become real-life.
Imagine getting this triggered by the name of a sports team, you are soft
@@bluwlvrine Very confusing statement you are making. Would not the one that forces said name change be the triggered one? Versus you accusing the traditionalist of said nonsense?
Someone is doing gaslighting, musta been triggered.
@@Parlimant_Strifey no I think the one whining and crying about the name change is the triggered one. Stay mad you snowflake.
Please do a video on the tigers run
Bottoms up 🍺
it’s about to happen to the diamondbacks- one of the worst late season collapses that I’ve ever seen as a snakes fan- it’s something thats been brewing since the start of the season… plain and simple, pitching was our Achilles heel.
Honestly, this is exactly what our owner deserves. 2023: your team is the most relevant it’s been in a decade and snap the playoff drought. 2024: cut payroll to one of the worst in baseball, and do fuck all to improve the roster. Not even mentioning the Minnesota can’t even watch their team this year on TV. I’m no longer supporting this team until he sells the team. But he’ll move it LONG before he sells it
As a Guardians fan, that's a TUFF break big dawg 😤
The Detroit Tigers tonight are chanting loudly tonight, chants that can be heard all the way up to Minnesota!
"We want more Beer! We want more Beer! Get more Beer! Pour more Beer! Down more Beer!
Bless you Boys!
Twins, what a MESS, Boys!
Royals in the postseason means they are a lock to be in the World Series.
8:32 I love this statement, I reminded him of this daily on X til he blocked me.
Royce?
@@iTalkStudios nope, I’m not Royce. Close though.
@@Jay_Cannon No who blocked you lol
They're still not out as of this moment. It is a colossal collapse and I agree that, 6 weeks ago, I thought they could win the division.
But right now they're down 7-0 in the Bottom of the 9th.
Yeah… it’s unfortunate, and they didn’t have enough room for error last night either. And the injuries didn’t help the Twins either, especially with losing Lewis during the 1st game of the season
“You get the ‘W’ back when you start winning again, T-ins.”-UrinatingTree
Sorry can’t like. I’m not breathing
This team is in shambles. And I am honestly expecting them to go out like the Oakland A's at this point
Get ready to make one for the diamondbacks, cause last Saturday we had 98% chance to make the playoffs and blew and 8-0 lead on sunday which lead to us falling apart.
You would have to have the worst team in MLB history in your division to look worst than the Twins do right now but what are the odds of that happening in 2024?
White Sox: *Even the Dimest light can shine over us*
Mets about the next team to choke a spot in the playoffs
Where’s the tigers video
What did Baldelli ever do to prepare him to be a manager ? He has no clue. Is very passive, lost control of team and let season slip away.