The Void is a great homage to John Carpenter. I think it's a great "inspired by Lovecraft" piece as opposed to trying to adhere to or add to the mythos.
29:58 I’m just happy you’re still uploading. Always get worried when a favorite UA-camr of mine just stops making content. For months or years on end I mean.
They did build a lot of really gross monsters and then shot them apart in super satisfying fashion. Without that, it would have been a very lackluster movie.
@Buddha UwU Wouldn't have saved the movie. It was too incoherent and nonsensical. Building cool monsters and blowing them up in gross ways made it watchable at least.
@@seranonable nonsensical is a part of the Unknown,aren't lovecraft work revolves around mysterius cult and most importantly Genetic mutations? Seen people mutating itu monster is really lovecraftian.thats why Bloodborne game is lovecraftian.
Practical effects are important but CGI can still be good. A lot of it just comes down to understanding how to use it and making it blend well. Though I also have some very strong opinions on how CGI can ruin a movie *glares over at the prequel to The Thing*
For the black pyramid, I wouldn't read it necessarily as a direct reference or the actual invovlement of but I always took it to be a Nyarlathotep thing, him being the Black Pharaoh and all. It's not a mythos film so there's no need to point to the stories and argue whether it's in keeping with big N's motives and M.O., just that it might be an allusion to him. As for the skin peeling/removal/shedding, off the top of my head I'd say it's a twofer metaphor. On the one hand you have the idea that when something loses or sheds its skin, it's fully exposed and revealed in a way that simple nudity doesn't always relay. On the other hand you also have a sense that it signifies that whatever the creature is, it's now unconstrained by a human form. Skin's a barrier that for us protects our innards from various hazards but for something like Powell it's a retarding prison and once he removes it he's free to ascend/descend to whatever he's able to become.
I can add one more piece to the skin removal trope - humans don't just feel vulnerable and exposed when confronted by damaged and removed skin, there's also a primal reaction to just how little it takes to destroy us, and revulsion at the fragility of human life. It's something people with severe burn scarring often have to deal with: a visceral disgust that is primal and subconscious, causing people to feel both scared and repulsed at seeing the scars.
Yeah I get what you mean. I absolutely loves Fulci's ideas and cinematography but there's always something taking me out of his movies. Probably the fact that all the actors spoke their lines in their own language (the americans saying their lines in english, the italians saying them in italian) and everything getting ADR in post to dub the foreign language. So you have instances of characters speaking in english whose lipsyncing is near flawless, because it's the same actor speaking over himself, and others where the voice over is speaking english over italian in which case it doesn't match at all... So you continuously get lipsyncing whiplash...
And when you watch documentary of other movies and they actually name their influences, you'll see that a lot of modern movies incorporate similar themes or flipped elements from other older movies. It's is very rare to see a truly original movie that reinvents the entire genre. This movie didn't try to do that. It simply wanted to make a truly scary indie movie. There is a "making of" the void documentary here on youtube that tells you about the production history of the movie.
If you watch enough foreign movies, you tend to over time ignore or not let yourself be distracted by things like lip synching. An example of this would be something like Guardians of the Tomb (2018). Some of the film has Chinese speech, but it does not detract from the moments of tension or emotion within the film. I've watched quite a fair share of dubbed content, as well as foreign content, so like I said, depending on the quality of the movie and the visuals on-screen, that doesn't make that much difference. I mean, if you can watch Bud Spencer movies and enjoy that, something as small as lip synching is really an irritating inconvenience, and not a deal breaker.
5:28 - dreams and unconscious visions, of other worlds are very much a lovecraftian theme. They form a key device to get the plot moving in TCoC, and crop up in several other stories. The way it's portayed in the movie is a little different to how HPL portrayed them in his writing - they tend to be more vivid and clearly other worldly - but as a general theme it's spot on
The point of the film isn't about the people knowing any lore, they don't care about nor have time to think of that. This is Lovecraftian survival, I enjoy the fact you don't learn to much because it puts me in the same level of the characters. It feeling lacking in the reason is actually pretty perfect because sometimes in Lovecraft stories it can be as simple as the stars are right or it isn't explained and trying to find out just makes you crazy.
Love your reviews man! I recently had knee surgery and have been immobilized for the most part so I came across your channel and have binge watched literally every single one of your reviews to keep me sane
The very end scene is also lifted from Fulci's The Beyond. I do like this film. But I wish we got to know the characters and their backgrounds a bit more. I'm currently re-reading Stephen King's novella The Mist and it got me thinking how the monsters and all that are never really explained, aside from some vague assumption it might be the arrowhead project that caused it. But what makes the story effective is its delving into the characters and how they bounce off each other in a bunker style setting. Even the film adaptation does this quite well. The Void however felt a bit too empty with its characters, and when they try to have some backstory it's the same old cliche of my child is dead and our marriage is in shambles. Speaking of The Mist, you should totally do that for the next Lovecraft month(s).
I think some of that could be put down to run time - the movie's only 90 minutes long, so there's not a whole lot of time to develop many characters, let alone have them bounce off each other.
It also had to do with the very short time that the movie had to actually shoot the movie as well, as well as funding issues. See The Making of The Void documentary on UA-cam.
To be fair, that is King's shtick. He throws common characters into uncommon situations. The main focus is not the unknown or the terrifying. It's not the disturbing. It's the characters and how they react to the situations he puts them in. Lovecraft is basically the reverse. But work... and I do think that you can balance them out. But this would work better as a show as there would be a lot to unpack.
Abit late but I think the dark tower series kind of explains them there basically creatures from the space in between diffirent universes. At the beginning of the movie the main character is even painting Roland deschain
I wanted to watch this so much. It looked great in the trailers. Also just want to say how much I enjoy your reviews mate, keep up the good work, you deserve way more subs.
you're forgetting "the dream cycle", where the main character almost gets eaten by nyarlathotep on his black pyramid dimension: the end of "the void" is 'welcome to that dimension, nyar-ee says "hello again"'... still waiting on the zombie apokolypse
8:06 About the dead nurse suddenly sprouting tendrils, I can think of two explanations, firstly is that when everyone else was distracted, the doctor implanted something in her corpse(or, perhaps, gave her something that caused the sudden extreme behavior in the first place). Secondly, that having your mind dominated by whats happening allows for spontaneous growth and/or reorganization of tissue, similar to the necromorphs from dead space.
I heard this explained in a comment on another video in that you have to kill someone, and then yourself die, in order to transform. Which does fuckall to explain the failed experiments in the basement.
i actually find myself loving this movie for what it is but..i did really want more from it, i felt like something was missing but i would love to see another movie like this
I saw this a few months back! I loved it. Yeah it wasn't perfect but I like how quickly it got going and the practical effects :) loved the review! Always excited when I see you got a new vid up
Next year, you could do The Unnamable. It's an adaption of an HP Lovecraft story of the same name, though not a very good one I hear, but you are no stranger to those.
The Void is what happens when Hellraiser and Dagon have a baby. It's great especially when you find out how much it costs.I do see the Prince of Darkness.
Ehh.....I just kind of worked under the assumption that things were random and wonky because reality was warping around the building with the portal in it.
18:15. According to the documentary, that was pretty much the state of the abandoned hospital in which they were shooting. The hospital also didn't have power, so they had to use genny power for set power requirements.
20:12 there are two reasons I can find: 1. saving for if found a way too fix the problem with them 2. use as a trap for unwelcome guests (i.e. the main charitors) but my thiery, is its just plot conveneance too show or renforcing how bad the "bad" guy is
I think by the point where the daughter was "reborn", Powell was brought back and in his delussion thought he was bringing his daughter back, but as we saw was just another demented being from the Void
my take is, this movie is based on nyarlethotep. this could also be based on the charles stross novels, there they have 'the sleeper in the pyramid' nyarlathotep style big evil, that resides in an alternate reality.
I think I accidentally ran across this movie while looking for The Devil's Candy on Netflix. The premise and vagueness interested me enough to watch it, and those are the main things I liked about it. A kind of interesting take on the Lovecraft premise, the effects, and its vagueness (I'm fine with vagueness if the movie justifies it well enough at the end). With everything else, I pretty much just echo what you said.
I literally just saw this movie today, specifically so I could watch this review. I had been putting off watching The Void for a while, but I'm glad I finally watched it. The Void most definitely had a Lovecraft vibe to it, and I liked it almost as much as I liked In The Mouth Of Madness. You watch The Void, and comparisons to John Carpenter can't be avoided. This was like a hybrid of In The Mouth Of Madness and Prince Of Darkness, with more of an emphasis on Prince Of Darkness, for certain. I have finally finished watching all of your reviews, and I cannot even express how happy I am to see a new one. Your HP Lovecraft Month reviews are on a whole other level of fantastic!
Now, this is just my opinion, so take it with a grain of salt... What if the nurse is a Shoggoth? Not a fully formed one, but like... a proto-form? I've never looked into the legends of them, but maybe they're a culmination of multiple forms made into one, and the nurse was only able to get so much, and thus is still "growing" if that makes sense.
The style, horror, monster designs, and atmosphere are all very strong in this movie, especially considering the budget. I also thought the characters were pretty interesting. The story just never "clicked" into place for me. I don't mind mystery and embracing the unknowable or ambiguous. The script just put way too many cards on the table - it's fun to wonder about a couple unanswered questions but the movie piles monsters on top of cults on top of symbols on top of more monsters on top of the evil doctor on top of mysterious landscapes before it even starts addressing any answers. Ultimately, I can't shake the feeling that a lot of the movie is pure dumb coincidence, in that at least several of these characters converge on the hospital where Powell resides purely by luck, which is why the narrative becomes so muddled. I'd still recommend the movie overall for its style and horror in the same vein as the similarly under-plotted Hellraiser 2.
I can see why they wouldn’t resort to full on torture first. They would not want to take the time to give him medical attention later if he proved useful.
If you're wondering why the cultists seem so strangely motionless most of the time: it's because they were basically two hoods stuck on mannequins which were then optically multiplied, so that we get the impression of an entire band lurking in the shadows. I liked the film, even if I could have done without yet another Hellraiser/Pinbacker figure.
The way I saw the plot is as just a call of cthulhu tabletop campaign put to film You've got people crit failing a la the father when he gets his brain got It is absolutely derivative but I think it exceeds in the presentation Just a cult that busts itself as happens in the verse when people dont know what they're doing messing with cosmic forces. Also I felt the actors really portrayed utter anxiety and dread nicely
If you haven't seen it Black Mountain Side is a decent watch. Very similar to the thing and at the mountains of madness, but Canadian, except that the guys keep using miles instead of kilometers.
I don't have a sleeve but i have both forearms done, but no I've never done a video about my tattoos, mainly because they're something personal to me, if someone asks about them ill talk about it but showing em off on video is not really my usual thing.
Thank you for replying. I was just curious because I don't have any but my friends who do told me about theirs usually had interesting stories behind them. But I also understand if its something very personal. I always looked at tattoos as markers of an individual's personal experience. And seeing anyone's tattoo in person is like once in a lifetime artwork that is so unique it can't truly be replicated because of the meaning behind it. And once again thank you for responding.
My personal opinon of why cosmic horror possession involves humans removing their skin is something along the lines of a cosmic being possessing a human body is is a lot like a giant hang trying to squeeze in a really small body. Sometimes you gotta do some pre-tearing that makes it a little bit easier to squeeze right in later.
Black Pyramid is a reference to the laundry Files book series a story about a British secret agent in a Lovecraft setting the Black Pyramid the Black Pyramid is where are the nyarlahotep sleeps
19:20 - I don't think cosmic horrors hate human skin, quite the opposite - they love it. The Necronomicon is bound with human skin - I guess that's the best medium for madness inducing literature. Maybe?
well what’s interesting about that, from what i can tell so far from my rudimentary research lovecraft himself never described the necronomicon as being made of human skin also there are a few copies none of them the original anyway
@@deusdeaconReviews I base my assumption on the game Call of Cthulhu - to be honest the game describes it as having a "skin binding", which automatically conjures up the image of "human skin". That, and I think I've come across other media referring to it as "made/covered with human skin". But I haven't done any research on that subject. Might be an interesting rabbit hole to fall in.
I really enjoyed this movie because I knew nothing about it when I originally saw it. I was just binge watching random netflix horror movies and stumbled across it. What was such a bizarre experience is that the first half of the movie or so gave me the impression of a generic b movie or something. It was so on the nose that I almost thought of it as a parody. Then as the story unfolded on what was actually going on, it blew my fucking mind. It certainly is not the best movie ever made but the fact it could leave that impression on me months after I have seen it, is quite rare for a movie. Usually I just forget most movies, even ones considered technically better. So I will have to give it kudos for that.
in your opening sequence, I have that same lovecraft complete works. I also read all of it. Old bugs is a very strange story even for him. it was quite.... Sesquipidillian
You know, I've always wanted to write a lovecraftian screenplay, but had never been able to get far. I mainly contribute this to me only writing shorts and always thinking of new ideas for film.
This is far beyond when it was posted but UA-cam just finally suggested this channel to me... Anyway, I feel like the pyramid, and much of the film really, is inspired more by Laird Barron than Lovecraft directly.
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I didn't see the doctor as being wrong here. Yes what was born was a monstrosity, but I got the sense it was really his daughter, just altered and malformed by the void. And he's okay with that cause in his mind like he said it's like the human form is a cocoon for the butterfly of what all these monsters are.
yes, absolutley the hannibal reviews will continue, if nothing else and the apocalyspe finally comes, the hannibal reviews will continue, i have to use my forensic degree for something.
okay so i don't know if you know this movie but i can't remember the name of it it's about a guy that got killed by the chief of police and his friends because they thought he killed his daughter(spoiler he did but throuout the movei they make it look like maybe he didn't)and his ghost comes after them and every time he is about to kill one he starts whistling
First review I've watched from you, popped up in my recommendations. You make good points but I have a word of advice: maybe you should try doing reviews without spoiling the entire story... Because now, I have no desire to watch the film anymore. BTW, what's your T-shirt? What I can see of the art looks familiar but I can't put my finger on it.
I don't review just released films, this review was made in 2018 for a film made in 2016 and your watching it in 2019, if you need a simple yay or nay on whether to see it theres plenty of other places for that I do in depth post mortem analysis usually of a franchise but sometimes just a single film, review is just easier to put in a channel heading, I appreciate you like and watch my videos put your trying to dictate my content and that won't stand and the t-shirt is for a band called Die! She said they made the intro song for my older videos.
@@deusdeaconReviews I wasn't trying to dictate your content. As I said, it was just an advice. I didn't know your channel and wasn't expecting what was presented as a review to be full-on spoilery. Maybe call them post mortems instead of reviews? That's only 5 more characters, including the space, I'm sure it can fit in the heading. Anyway, good work. And thanks for the reply on the artwork.
Actually I think I know what you mean here Daecon. A lot of lovecraftian stories still have a sense of explanation of events in the mundane fashion, but with The Void, it's like things just happen without any sort of setup or sense of payoff, cuz we still have no real idea what those triangle people are or what the more basic purpose of the creepy babybirth thing is all about, etc. Even just some basic 'cult worshipping extra dimensional horror based around symmetry that our reality cannot show (hence fleshy monsterstuff where as the Triangle stuff seems very clean and pure in a sense, as if it's OUR reality that is the nasty one cuz it cannot show the truth of whatever triangle-reality might contain). I really dun mind the whole start, cuz it gives the audience a sort of front-row seat with much of the main cast with regards to what the hell is actually going on.
The pyramid/cult'll be a reference to Nyarlathotep, who in his first 1920 appearance was said to resemble an ancient Egyptian pharaoh and who is sometimes known as the Black Pharaoh I'd wager.
yeah nyarlatotep is referred to as a pharaoh, I think its because the majority of nyarlatotep stories that exist, were written by other people then lovecraft (only 4 out of the 18), its not an excuse but it just didn't spring to mind much I guess, I did mention there were a few references to pyramids and stuff though, thats at least a little silver lining I think.
I really like the film and cant find many flaws other than the plot points & scenes that don't deal directly with the Lovecraftian/cosmic elements are fairly generic. Also at the end I didn't understand why the cop found his wife, when he passed though the gate directly but she died without doing so. Hope there's a sequel someday.
From what I got out of the movie, the Demon Doctor "altered" the ex-wife. That meant when the cop came into the room and later on saw what she really was, he killed her to stop the transformation and her pain. That mean her "essence" went to that dark place we later see. He pushes the Demon Doctor and himself through the gateway, and essentially ends up at the same place. That can mean that either he has "sort of" one up because he might "still" have his body, or his body was destroyed by the gateway and his "essence" is now trapped at the same place as his ex. By that logic, it might also mean the Demon Doctor is "alive" on in that dimension, but it is kind of a toss-up where any possible sequel/prequel might end up, as there is so many things that are unanswered, but in my opinion that only makes the possibility of follow-up stories more probable. :)
My opinion's always been it's a compression of Carpenter's Apocalypse Trilogy; bio horror of the Thing, apocalyptic weirdness from Price of Darkness and reality bending from At the Mouth of Madness.
Oh man I heard such good things about this movie. I heard the only disappointing thing was the ending. I'm not a fan of vague movies, I like my movies to eventually tell me what the hell is going on lol. I guess all u have to do is slap some tentacles on it an people will say it's Lovecraft. Awesome review! Love your videos.
No you fail to understand this movie have Msyterius cult,human mutating into a monster and some unknown Void.this is very Lovecraftian.just because you want to make movie about lovecraftian,doesn't have to be Straight up about Cthulhu.
I thought this was a great twisted, unsettling story told on a small budget. I would to see more like this.
The Void is a great homage to John Carpenter. I think it's a great "inspired by Lovecraft" piece as opposed to trying to adhere to or add to the mythos.
Watched this on Netflix. Highly recommend.
I felt like The Void was a really underrated film.
29:58 I’m just happy you’re still uploading. Always get worried when a favorite UA-camr of mine just stops making content. For months or years on end I mean.
People like this movie because of the practical effects.
They are starving for them and have had enough of CGI gore.
They did build a lot of really gross monsters and then shot them apart in super satisfying fashion. Without that, it would have been a very lackluster movie.
@Buddha UwU Wouldn't have saved the movie. It was too incoherent and nonsensical. Building cool monsters and blowing them up in gross ways made it watchable at least.
Absolutely
@@seranonable nonsensical is a part of the Unknown,aren't lovecraft work revolves around mysterius cult and most importantly Genetic mutations? Seen people mutating itu monster is really lovecraftian.thats why Bloodborne game is lovecraftian.
Practical effects are important but CGI can still be good. A lot of it just comes down to understanding how to use it and making it blend well. Though I also have some very strong opinions on how CGI can ruin a movie *glares over at the prequel to The Thing*
Still glad that the mute kid and Kim survived. I’m not kidding when I was worried about the kid not making it to the end
For the black pyramid, I wouldn't read it necessarily as a direct reference or the actual invovlement of but I always took it to be a Nyarlathotep thing, him being the Black Pharaoh and all. It's not a mythos film so there's no need to point to the stories and argue whether it's in keeping with big N's motives and M.O., just that it might be an allusion to him.
As for the skin peeling/removal/shedding, off the top of my head I'd say it's a twofer metaphor. On the one hand you have the idea that when something loses or sheds its skin, it's fully exposed and revealed in a way that simple nudity doesn't always relay. On the other hand you also have a sense that it signifies that whatever the creature is, it's now unconstrained by a human form. Skin's a barrier that for us protects our innards from various hazards but for something like Powell it's a retarding prison and once he removes it he's free to ascend/descend to whatever he's able to become.
I can add one more piece to the skin removal trope - humans don't just feel vulnerable and exposed when confronted by damaged and removed skin, there's also a primal reaction to just how little it takes to destroy us, and revulsion at the fragility of human life. It's something people with severe burn scarring often have to deal with: a visceral disgust that is primal and subconscious, causing people to feel both scared and repulsed at seeing the scars.
The ending reminds me of the Lucio Fulci movie "The Beyond" in which the characters enter hell.
Yes, I believe it was the intended hommage.
I thought it must have been - such a similar ending.
Not as good but similar.
The movie wears many of its influences on its sleeve.
Hellraiser etc...
Yeah I get what you mean. I absolutely loves Fulci's ideas and cinematography but there's always something taking me out of his movies. Probably the fact that all the actors spoke their lines in their own language (the americans saying their lines in english, the italians saying them in italian) and everything getting ADR in post to dub the foreign language. So you have instances of characters speaking in english whose lipsyncing is near flawless, because it's the same actor speaking over himself, and others where the voice over is speaking english over italian in which case it doesn't match at all... So you continuously get lipsyncing whiplash...
And when you watch documentary of other movies and they actually name their influences, you'll see that a lot of modern movies incorporate similar themes or flipped elements from other older movies. It's is very rare to see a truly original movie that reinvents the entire genre. This movie didn't try to do that. It simply wanted to make a truly scary indie movie. There is a "making of" the void documentary here on youtube that tells you about the production history of the movie.
If you watch enough foreign movies, you tend to over time ignore or not let yourself be distracted by things like lip synching. An example of this would be something like Guardians of the Tomb (2018). Some of the film has Chinese speech, but it does not detract from the moments of tension or emotion within the film. I've watched quite a fair share of dubbed content, as well as foreign content, so like I said, depending on the quality of the movie and the visuals on-screen, that doesn't make that much difference. I mean, if you can watch Bud Spencer movies and enjoy that, something as small as lip synching is really an irritating inconvenience, and not a deal breaker.
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5:28 - dreams and unconscious visions, of other worlds are very much a lovecraftian theme.
They form a key device to get the plot moving in TCoC, and crop up in several other stories.
The way it's portayed in the movie is a little different to how HPL portrayed them in his writing - they tend to be more vivid and clearly other worldly - but as a general theme it's spot on
The point of the film isn't about the people knowing any lore, they don't care about nor have time to think of that. This is Lovecraftian survival, I enjoy the fact you don't learn to much because it puts me in the same level of the characters. It feeling lacking in the reason is actually pretty perfect because sometimes in Lovecraft stories it can be as simple as the stars are right or it isn't explained and trying to find out just makes you crazy.
Agreed,and its fit with the theme "fear of the unknown"
Another great review
I’ve been binge watching your reviews. Great work!
The ending of The Void made me think of Fulci's The Beyond. What a bleak and disturbing kind of ending.
Love your reviews man! I recently had knee surgery and have been immobilized for the most part so I came across your channel and have binge watched literally every single one of your reviews to keep me sane
*Just wants a proper adaptation of 'At the Mountains of Madness'.* You and me both man, you and me both.
I love your choice of diction in these reviews. Please keep up the great work.
glad you enjoy the video, Not sure what you mean by "choice of diction" though
I loved the trip through your hp lovecraft play list I never knew there were this many adaptations of his work thank you for this
The very end scene is also lifted from Fulci's The Beyond. I do like this film. But I wish we got to know the characters and their backgrounds a bit more. I'm currently re-reading Stephen King's novella The Mist and it got me thinking how the monsters and all that are never really explained, aside from some vague assumption it might be the arrowhead project that caused it. But what makes the story effective is its delving into the characters and how they bounce off each other in a bunker style setting. Even the film adaptation does this quite well. The Void however felt a bit too empty with its characters, and when they try to have some backstory it's the same old cliche of my child is dead and our marriage is in shambles. Speaking of The Mist, you should totally do that for the next Lovecraft month(s).
I think some of that could be put down to run time - the movie's only 90 minutes long, so there's not a whole lot of time to develop many characters, let alone have them bounce off each other.
It also had to do with the very short time that the movie had to actually shoot the movie as well, as well as funding issues. See The Making of The Void documentary on UA-cam.
History of the pyramids. Why is it so hellish? Those are questions worth answering.
To be fair, that is King's shtick. He throws common characters into uncommon situations. The main focus is not the unknown or the terrifying. It's not the disturbing. It's the characters and how they react to the situations he puts them in. Lovecraft is basically the reverse. But work... and I do think that you can balance them out. But this would work better as a show as there would be a lot to unpack.
Abit late but I think the dark tower series kind of explains them there basically creatures from the space in between diffirent universes. At the beginning of the movie the main character is even painting Roland deschain
I wanted to watch this so much. It looked great in the trailers. Also just want to say how much I enjoy your reviews mate, keep up the good work, you deserve way more subs.
you're forgetting "the dream cycle", where the main character almost gets eaten by nyarlathotep on his black pyramid dimension: the end of "the void" is 'welcome to that dimension, nyar-ee says "hello again"'...
still waiting on the zombie apokolypse
I'd love to see your take on the 2007 "Cthulhu" movie.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cthulhu_(2007_film)
Congratulations on 16k subscribers! You deserve it mate, I love your reviews.
Another awesome review as always.
This one does feel a bit like a "hit and miss".
8:06 About the dead nurse suddenly sprouting tendrils, I can think of two explanations, firstly is that when everyone else was distracted, the doctor implanted something in her corpse(or, perhaps, gave her something that caused the sudden extreme behavior in the first place). Secondly, that having your mind dominated by whats happening allows for spontaneous growth and/or reorganization of tissue, similar to the necromorphs from dead space.
I heard this explained in a comment on another video in that you have to kill someone, and then yourself die, in order to transform. Which does fuckall to explain the failed experiments in the basement.
i actually find myself loving this movie for what it is but..i did really want more from it, i felt like something was missing but i would love to see another movie like this
Shit hits the fan faster then the beginning of Dead Space
I saw this a few months back! I loved it. Yeah it wasn't perfect but I like how quickly it got going and the practical effects :) loved the review! Always excited when I see you got a new vid up
The Pyramid. You opened it, we came.
The triangle thing might have to do with SCP-1936 (something Lovecraft inspired) instead of Lovecraft directly.
I guess I better get around to watching your "Prince of Darkness" review after this.
Next year, you could do The Unnamable. It's an adaption of an HP Lovecraft story of the same name, though not a very good one I hear, but you are no stranger to those.
I love this dudes reviews.
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The Void is what happens when Hellraiser and Dagon have a baby. It's great especially when you find out how much it costs.I do see the Prince of Darkness.
Ehh.....I just kind of worked under the assumption that things were random and wonky because reality was warping around the building with the portal in it.
Noooooo not Hellraiser 10.
Quoting much better movies and actors won't mke this any better. But, that was a great reference.
There’s also a movie called... Cthulhu 2007.
The writer, director and also producer put it up on his UA-cam channel.
Take a look at 2012's 'Would You Rather' starting good old Jeff Combs. Love to see your take on that film.
As long as there are tentacles, it is Lovecraft.
Japanese tentacle porn is now Lovecraft.
Or...
Lovecraft is Japanese tentacle porn.
Either way, it's horrifying.
That is paradoxical, in its own right. XD
18:15. According to the documentary, that was pretty much the state of the abandoned hospital in which they were shooting. The hospital also didn't have power, so they had to use genny power for set power requirements.
YES another awsome review keep em comming your my favorite youtube movie reviewer now
20:12 there are two reasons I can find:
1. saving for if found a way too fix the problem with them
2. use as a trap for unwelcome guests (i.e. the main charitors)
but my thiery, is its just plot conveneance too show or renforcing how bad the "bad" guy is
I think by the point where the daughter was "reborn", Powell was brought back and in his delussion thought he was bringing his daughter back, but as we saw was just another demented being from the Void
my take is, this movie is based on nyarlethotep. this could also be based on the charles stross novels, there they have 'the sleeper in the pyramid' nyarlathotep style big evil, that resides in
an alternate reality.
I think I accidentally ran across this movie while looking for The Devil's Candy on Netflix. The premise and vagueness interested me enough to watch it, and those are the main things I liked about it. A kind of interesting take on the Lovecraft premise, the effects, and its vagueness (I'm fine with vagueness if the movie justifies it well enough at the end). With everything else, I pretty much just echo what you said.
I also caught it on Netflix too by accident.
Every time I heard "fire axe" I couldn't help but think of a flame enchanted axe.
I literally just saw this movie today, specifically so I could watch this review. I had been putting off watching The Void for a while, but I'm glad I finally watched it. The Void most definitely had a Lovecraft vibe to it, and I liked it almost as much as I liked In The Mouth Of Madness. You watch The Void, and comparisons to John Carpenter can't be avoided. This was like a hybrid of In The Mouth Of Madness and Prince Of Darkness, with more of an emphasis on Prince Of Darkness, for certain.
I have finally finished watching all of your reviews, and I cannot even express how happy I am to see a new one. Your HP Lovecraft Month reviews are on a whole other level of fantastic!
Now, this is just my opinion, so take it with a grain of salt...
What if the nurse is a Shoggoth? Not a fully formed one, but like... a proto-form? I've never looked into the legends of them, but maybe they're a culmination of multiple forms made into one, and the nurse was only able to get so much, and thus is still "growing" if that makes sense.
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The style, horror, monster designs, and atmosphere are all very strong in this movie, especially considering the budget. I also thought the characters were pretty interesting. The story just never "clicked" into place for me. I don't mind mystery and embracing the unknowable or ambiguous. The script just put way too many cards on the table - it's fun to wonder about a couple unanswered questions but the movie piles monsters on top of cults on top of symbols on top of more monsters on top of the evil doctor on top of mysterious landscapes before it even starts addressing any answers. Ultimately, I can't shake the feeling that a lot of the movie is pure dumb coincidence, in that at least several of these characters converge on the hospital where Powell resides purely by luck, which is why the narrative becomes so muddled. I'd still recommend the movie overall for its style and horror in the same vein as the similarly under-plotted Hellraiser 2.
You basically described Escape from Innsmouth XD This kind of stuff is not uncommon in the mythos - including the expanded versions.
Another good review- one of the few good youtube channels!
That ending is also similar to Event Horizon.
The movie almost seems like a vehicle to show off the effects.
I noticed that similarity too...although personally I can honestly say I liked Event Horizon a lot more.
I can see why they wouldn’t resort to full on torture first. They would not want to take the time to give him medical attention later if he proved useful.
If you're wondering why the cultists seem so strangely motionless most of the time: it's because they were basically two hoods stuck on mannequins which were then optically multiplied, so that we get the impression of an entire band lurking in the shadows. I liked the film, even if I could have done without yet another Hellraiser/Pinbacker figure.
The way I saw the plot is as just a call of cthulhu tabletop campaign put to film
You've got people crit failing a la the father when he gets his brain got
It is absolutely derivative but I think it exceeds in the presentation
Just a cult that busts itself as happens in the verse when people dont know what they're doing messing with cosmic forces.
Also I felt the actors really portrayed utter anxiety and dread nicely
This movie is awesome, glad you're finally reviewing it.
Welcome back to the land of the living. You're gonna be here a while. >:3
OMG OMG OMG I was hoping you would review this movie! I loved it!
Been waiting on this, son!!!!
Wicked ass props to you, homeboy
Can you do Whisperer in the darkness at some point?
Great video lad !
If you haven't seen it Black Mountain Side is a decent watch. Very similar to the thing and at the mountains of madness, but Canadian, except that the guys keep using miles instead of kilometers.
At the end, the before the young girl gave birth to this monster daughter, she says "Calvin, bless my baby." Who is Calvin?
Its not really Lovecraft inspired. The creators said they were inspired by silent hill games.
Which itself took inspiration from lovecraftian fiction.
@Deusdaecon, completely random question, have you ever done an episode talking about your tattoos? It looks like you have a sleeve on your right arm.
I don't have a sleeve but i have both forearms done, but no I've never done a video about my tattoos, mainly because they're something personal to me, if someone asks about them ill talk about it but showing em off on video is not really my usual thing.
Thank you for replying. I was just curious because I don't have any but my friends who do told me about theirs usually had interesting stories behind them. But I also understand if its something very personal. I always looked at tattoos as markers of an individual's personal experience. And seeing anyone's tattoo in person is like once in a lifetime artwork that is so unique it can't truly be replicated because of the meaning behind it. And once again thank you for responding.
My personal opinon of why cosmic horror possession involves humans removing their skin is something along the lines of a cosmic being possessing a human body is is a lot like a giant hang trying to squeeze in a really small body. Sometimes you gotta do some pre-tearing that makes it a little bit easier to squeeze right in later.
Black Pyramid is a reference to the laundry Files book series a story about a British secret agent in a Lovecraft setting the Black Pyramid the Black Pyramid is where are the nyarlahotep sleeps
19:20 - I don't think cosmic horrors hate human skin, quite the opposite - they love it. The Necronomicon is bound with human skin - I guess that's the best medium for madness inducing literature. Maybe?
well what’s interesting about that, from what i can tell so far from my rudimentary research lovecraft himself never described the necronomicon as being made of human skin also there are a few copies none of them the original anyway
@@deusdeaconReviews I base my assumption on the game Call of Cthulhu - to be honest the game describes it as having a "skin binding", which automatically conjures up the image of "human skin". That, and I think I've come across other media referring to it as "made/covered with human skin". But I haven't done any research on that subject. Might be an interesting rabbit hole to fall in.
I really enjoyed this movie because I knew nothing about it when I originally saw it. I was just binge watching random netflix horror movies and stumbled across it. What was such a bizarre experience is that the first half of the movie or so gave me the impression of a generic b movie or something. It was so on the nose that I almost thought of it as a parody. Then as the story unfolded on what was actually going on, it blew my fucking mind. It certainly is not the best movie ever made but the fact it could leave that impression on me months after I have seen it, is quite rare for a movie. Usually I just forget most movies, even ones considered technically better. So I will have to give it kudos for that.
I did not know I needed this review as much as I did. Now I have it and I guess I should fight death with gore and viscera?
in your opening sequence, I have that same lovecraft complete works. I also read all of it. Old bugs is a very strange story even for him. it was quite.... Sesquipidillian
Great review!
You know, I've always wanted to write a lovecraftian screenplay, but had never been able to get far.
I mainly contribute this to me only writing shorts and always thinking of new ideas for film.
The symbols in the books and whatnot remind me of the Alchemic texts I researched a while back.
yeah theres clear visual similarities to things that are in the lesser key of solomon as well
darkest dungeon is a lovecraftian influenced game. Hardcore curve, deff not for everyone.
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Whenever you do another Lovecraft movie month review "Necronomicon: Book Of The Dead."
This is far beyond when it was posted but UA-cam just finally suggested this channel to me... Anyway, I feel like the pyramid, and much of the film really, is inspired more by Laird Barron than Lovecraft directly.
I love the atmosphere of the void. The story could've been put together better though like you said though.
How have I not heard of this until now? Was this really so under the radar? O_O
Hello. I'm a new follower. I found you through watching cube and not understanding the end of the second one 😂😭 thank you for bashing it 👍 ill stick around for a while love your channel
Oh you are doing the new Hellraiser nice
I didn't see the doctor as being wrong here. Yes what was born was a monstrosity, but I got the sense it was really his daughter, just altered and malformed by the void. And he's okay with that cause in his mind like he said it's like the human form is a cocoon for the butterfly of what all these monsters are.
I'd love if you reviewed the first season of the Netflix show "1899".. (hint: black pyramids.. 😉)
PS: will the Hannibal review continue sometime? 🥰
yes, absolutley the hannibal reviews will continue, if nothing else and the apocalyspe finally comes, the hannibal reviews will continue, i have to use my forensic degree for something.
Don't worry, my Arabic literature degree also sits snug on my wall and gets dusted occasionally lol
HP Lovecraft month again already?!?! MY MAN
you and decker shado does the best movie reviews and poor woman at the started of the film
okay so i don't know if you know this movie but i can't remember the name of it
it's about a guy that got killed by the chief of police and his friends because they thought he killed his daughter(spoiler he did but throuout the movei they make it look like maybe he didn't)and his ghost comes after them and every time he is about to kill one he starts whistling
I quite loved this movie, I wish there was more serious lovecraft movies. Wether that be an adaptation or an original story based off of lovecraft.
it is not Shoggoth . it's the Dunwich horror brothers ..
First review I've watched from you, popped up in my recommendations. You make good points but I have a word of advice: maybe you should try doing reviews without spoiling the entire story... Because now, I have no desire to watch the film anymore.
BTW, what's your T-shirt? What I can see of the art looks familiar but I can't put my finger on it.
I don't review just released films, this review was made in 2018 for a film made in 2016 and your watching it in 2019, if you need a simple yay or nay on whether to see it theres plenty of other places for that I do in depth post mortem analysis usually of a franchise but sometimes just a single film, review is just easier to put in a channel heading, I appreciate you like and watch my videos put your trying to dictate my content and that won't stand and the t-shirt is for a band called Die! She said they made the intro song for my older videos.
@@deusdeaconReviews I wasn't trying to dictate your content. As I said, it was just an advice. I didn't know your channel and wasn't expecting what was presented as a review to be full-on spoilery. Maybe call them post mortems instead of reviews? That's only 5 more characters, including the space, I'm sure it can fit in the heading.
Anyway, good work. And thanks for the reply on the artwork.
Mugwump I mean mate u should of known what kind of review it was going to be when he started
Actually I think I know what you mean here Daecon. A lot of lovecraftian stories still have a sense of explanation of events in the mundane fashion, but with The Void, it's like things just happen without any sort of setup or sense of payoff, cuz we still have no real idea what those triangle people are or what the more basic purpose of the creepy babybirth thing is all about, etc. Even just some basic 'cult worshipping extra dimensional horror based around symmetry that our reality cannot show (hence fleshy monsterstuff where as the Triangle stuff seems very clean and pure in a sense, as if it's OUR reality that is the nasty one cuz it cannot show the truth of whatever triangle-reality might contain).
I really dun mind the whole start, cuz it gives the audience a sort of front-row seat with much of the main cast with regards to what the hell is actually going on.
The pyramid/cult'll be a reference to Nyarlathotep, who in his first 1920 appearance was said to resemble an ancient Egyptian pharaoh and who is sometimes known as the Black Pharaoh I'd wager.
yeah nyarlatotep is referred to as a pharaoh, I think its because the majority of nyarlatotep stories that exist, were written by other people then lovecraft (only 4 out of the 18), its not an excuse but it just didn't spring to mind much I guess, I did mention there were a few references to pyramids and stuff though, thats at least a little silver lining I think.
I really like the film and cant find many flaws other than the plot points & scenes that don't deal directly with the Lovecraftian/cosmic elements are fairly generic. Also at the end I didn't understand why the cop found his wife, when he passed though the gate directly but she died without doing so. Hope there's a sequel someday.
From what I got out of the movie, the Demon Doctor "altered" the ex-wife. That meant when the cop came into the room and later on saw what she really was, he killed her to stop the transformation and her pain. That mean her "essence" went to that dark place we later see. He pushes the Demon Doctor and himself through the gateway, and essentially ends up at the same place. That can mean that either he has "sort of" one up because he might "still" have his body, or his body was destroyed by the gateway and his "essence" is now trapped at the same place as his ex. By that logic, it might also mean the Demon Doctor is "alive" on in that dimension, but it is kind of a toss-up where any possible sequel/prequel might end up, as there is so many things that are unanswered, but in my opinion that only makes the possibility of follow-up stories more probable. :)
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My opinion's always been it's a compression of Carpenter's Apocalypse Trilogy; bio horror of the Thing, apocalyptic weirdness from Price of Darkness and reality bending from At the Mouth of Madness.
Oh man I heard such good things about this movie. I heard the only disappointing thing was the ending. I'm not a fan of vague movies, I like my movies to eventually tell me what the hell is going on lol. I guess all u have to do is slap some tentacles on it an people will say it's Lovecraft. Awesome review! Love your videos.
No you fail to understand this movie have Msyterius cult,human mutating into a monster and some unknown Void.this is very Lovecraftian.just because you want to make movie about lovecraftian,doesn't have to be Straight up about Cthulhu.