Thor’s biggest takeaway was that claims need to have proof. All I’m seeing in these comments are more assumptions and hastily conclusions. It’s like y’all didn’t watch the video… smh
The issue here isn’t being blamed for cheating. The issue here is the MULTIPLE felonies Destroyer2009 is committing. And he’s 100% right. If situations like this, you NEED proof. It’s not optional.
I like to see it as a stove fire spreading into the whole kitchen. At first, it was just a small stove fire, but EA/Respawn let it keep burning and now the kitchen is on fire. At the moment, based on their action they will either use a fire extinguisher to put part of it out or they will get a firetruck and put the whole fire out. Unfortunately, i think EA/Respawn will probably just put part of the fire out and say we are good until eventually the whole house is on fire. You're right about this poor budget. They didn't learn from Titanfall and at the moment, they have to spend a shit ton to fix this compared to how much less they could've paid if they attacked hacking a lot harder from the very beginning. We'll see what happens, but i don't have much confidence in EA/Respawn.
Didn't you hear what Thor is saying in this video? You need proof for claim. And you say "definitely" with no insider knowledge I assume. Because lets think about all the possiblities. If it's a zeroday RCE vulnerability, how is that on cyber security team? It would mean the original devs created flaw in engine and those devs are gone. If Hal and Genburten downloaded malware to their PC, how is that on cyber security? If it's a server side exploit, there are countless of possibilities. For example a compromised employee account. Which is an individual failure. It could also be on AWS who I believe is the cloud provider for apex or the firewall vendor AWS is contracted with. But yeah you know it definitely...
Apex made 1.3 billion on steam in 2023 this is a Respawn and definitely a EA issue and it's bullshit that it had to come to this just to see if they'll finally do something about.
bro really had so many conflicting feelings about apex... honestly feel the same way though but I think thor is wrong about apex being dead, and Mande is wrong / short sighted about the direction the game is taking. We've seen a lot of improvements recently in the state of the game and a hack like this is just more data that the security team can use to remedy the situation, if they care to. As long as people's computers aren't at risk then this situation isn't really super crazy, but it's fun seeing the breakdowns from thor and prime
They didn't make that money by investing in things that don't show a direct increase in profits. As the game gets more successful, they shed more weight with layoffs to milk the game more for less. Unfortunately, they won't be incentivized to invest more into their security team and anti-cheat until that lack of investment turns enough players/buyers away to hit their bottom line. By that point, knowing EA they'll probably think it makes more financial sense to just shut the game down rather than fix it. Big gaming companies are cost-cutting everywhere and are ridiculously risk-averse these days with how unstable everything is right now. Game's still making money and they're scared that investing in their security team will be a waste of money if they'll still lose to cheat makers. Thank capitalism for this.
All these vulnerabilities in the respawn system have been there since Titanfall 1. Sidalpha was filling steamer lobbies with bots back then making it unplayable. Upper echelon has a couple of videos on it.
@@MarkRidesCoastersHe said it himself that their job is not cheap but expensive. Didnt apex fired people weeks ago? Highly doubt they will hire anyone in that field.
these people who have the creds cost alot. The guy who helped developed vanguard and worked for the us defense department approached valve to help them make an anticheat and they declined. These companies dnt want to fork over the millions for fair play bcuz its all about the shareholders. Sad truth of playing fps games in 2024 and im sure it'll get worse over the years.
Apex even had kill replays a few weeks back and it was easy to identify cheaters. Then they removed it as it was probably embarrassing for them how many people were obviously cheating.
That's called a rat (remote access tool) and no. You can not just rat any computer. That computer has to be compromised with said rat before he can use the rat to his advantage. Only way to get compromised is to download something that he made that contains the rat and you ran that.
@@miked815 based on what I said, he most definitely can not. Unless you download a file that destoryer2009 made, that contains a rat encoded into it. He can not rat your computer. It would be a RCE zero day exploit of windows itself if he could rat your computer without you downloading something he made. Let me explain it simple terms if you have no idea what Im talking about. Destoryer2009 : Makes file encoded with rat : labels it "Adobe PhotoShop Crack"(or any file really..) : Upload it to the internet : Person downloads it and run said file : Person is now hacked without knowing it. Person don't download strange things : Person can't get ratted
I think part of this that he isn’t understanding is that the hacker is a fan of the game, he doesn’t want to ruin the game for everyone. Just wants to prove his point of how easy it is, an 18 y/o from Belarus being able to do this is impressive but like Mande says in his video, he’ll grow up and mature and realize his mistakes
Software streamer of the year is on the case! I still wish Vedal987 would have won, but clearly this guys got some chops. I'm definitely gonna sub and follow him after this whole fiasco.
Simple thing - EA knows all these but doesn't have the man power and the detection algo for ban waves. Hopefully they will consider putting some effort into this.
Finally!... Somebody brings up the disgruntled employees!? Thank you Mande. I said this on day 1.... Guaranteed, one of those Apex Dev's that got laid-off/fired, with little or no warning, by EA/Respawn last week has something to do with what we witnessed on Sunday.
Packs are merely there to figure out which ID matches up to which player I'd think, we've seen the entire bot lobbies dropping on streamers, the servers wouldn't recognise individual user names they'd have unique IDs, having an entire lobby being mainly bots & targets and maybe a few legit people you then gift each one you know isn't your own characters those packs until you see the targeted streamer receive them you then have there unique ID to be able to target that person directly. The thing I find weird with gens Clip is the hack was launched mid game which should not be possible to get the correct access level required once the game is launched which makes it kinda look like it was rce on the client
The hack could've been auto hooked prior to game launch and just kept in the background listening for call from home. I'm just guessing but the port forwarding that showed up after installing MB, is what the injected hack was listening to. Once a packet was received, it would do what the packet says to do. Mind you it had to be kernel level since apex is also kernel level.
@UnfiItered it's possible... I just don't see how it would have been possible to load the hacks up beforehand without anyone noticing, just seems strange from my end without seeing the 'hack'. The IP address that was found was a basic ping bot server and hal just had dumb firewall settings. Apex has an internal messenger/updater for hot fixes etc if someone found a vulnerability there it wouldn't be hard to force a client update (Hal's screen went black with the apex loading screen for a bit just before the hack) and update configs for that client OR big brain respawn has internal 'cheats' for testing as we never actually seen if the mod menu was real or just a jpeg (I could be wrong but I'd say the internal updater would have a way to send pop ups/messages) Put it this way Respawn didn't do a security patch for the servers because a couple of pros computers got hacked, so something was definitely up with the servers
Respawn should offer Destroyer a job at this point. This guy has been consistently hacking and evading bans for more than 5 seasons lol that has merit in itself.
@@RorschDG-2yall are FAR hyping him up bro 😂. He even said himself he only banned a total or 2 million people. And he knew people banning 13 million every 3 months lol
Why can t they create algorithm that looks at certain parameters like recoil, repetitive hs from distance, anomalies like infinite laser beam with charge rifle,… and if you cross certain thresholds deemed impossible… you re ban. Might not solve all types of cheat but at least the hard aim it cheats or else… allow famous streamers like gen or hal to ban… and when they do send report or clip motivating ban,.. etc? If as said it is a community problem, involve representative of that community…?
Because if the cheat is also kernel level and isn't using known method or don't have the same signature as known cheats, it don't know what to look for?
@@Manning0151 why? Respawn won’t fix their game, so it takes people like destroyer to do it. Maybe just maybe they’ll fix it, remember Tufi yea well this is the same issue as then and they never fixed it so now destroyer has exploited it even more they’re forced to do something
That's karma. For Titanfall 2 which was unplayable for almost 3 years due to hacks and ddos attacks. And what did EA and Respawn do? They didn't care, they let the community down. Karma baby karma.
They should have a pay gate like CS, so we can play against other paying costumers... This is the only real working anticheat that works till this day!
I do want to clear up some things. 1. Thor isn't a "professional hacker" lmao. That's just clickbait. He's the former CISO (chief information security office) for Blizzard if i remember correctly. 2. Claims need evidence is a 100% valid takeaway from this video. Problem is is that respawn will never give us a 100% response. Regardless if anyone feels entitled to the answer. 3. The first thing you learned in security plus is that the cybersecurity team that is The first thing you learned in Security+ is that the cybersecurity team is one of the most essential parts of a company. Especially online gaming companies but companies like EA rarely give the proper assistance to the cyber teams. 4. Respawn NEEDS to give a good statement about this and not just a "we're aware and working on it." Because companies have said that before (reapawn included) and nothing was done and before you type "they can't just tell the hackers their plans." Bro they hacked into ALGS regional tournaments. Do you think that they won't have a workaround for whatever Respawn has cooking up? 5. Making an apex 2, with its own dedicated launcher and anti-cheat. Would be the only play that EA has to save this game that I can see. P.S Please do not harass the devs or the CS team working for Respawn. They're probably way more stressed than you losing your ranked matches being the fact that this is their job and they can get fired because of it. Stuff does need to change but only if there's clear communication between the devs and the community. Wait for an official response and THEN lose your minds over it.
If the man himself calls himself a professional hacker, I'm inclined to believe him, I'm sure the definition of "hacker" can be fitted to his experience and capability
@@nokutori9964 He said that because Mande probably doesn't know what a CISO is but yea. The title of "professional hacker" works lol. Just sounds like something an edgy teen who figured out how to grab IPs would tell people.
I think thor is taking this guy too serious. Considering all his past deeds... He's probably just doing it for the lols😂😂 that's why he isn't launchin mass attacks
I think it’s more that the fact that the vulnerabilities exist, could potentially give the guy the access to do more harmful things or someone he sells his hacks to uses them for their own nefarious reason. I agree that they’re just doing this for exposure right now. I honestly even have a small bit of faith it’s an ex employee upset the company hasn’t done anything to help fix these problems for a long time and is trying to force the issue. We will see…
it's not about destroyer being able to do that, it's about the vulnerabilities in the easy anti cheat. He may be doing it for the lols, but what about someone who's truly malicious? If it's client-side RCE, they can literally do whatever they want with your computer.
I hope players support the devs more... Remember that they're also human. I'm sure they try their best to fix the problems; at least the devs who care about the game.
I think they do the bare minimum and focus on milking players with overpriced cosmetics. the people who care, who built the game have left the studio long ago.
@@Killerbee_McTittiesbut that’s not necessarily the devs fault. They might have the best intentions to create a great game but hands are tied because EA is greedy and only cares about the player base who spends money on the game. They’d rather see the game die and lay off employees than fix a problem that cost them money.
'No'. I am glad that Hideouts is getting flak for some of this. He's been so smug with his shit, this comes off the heels of him responding to someone smugly like "Oh, I can do this and EDM music because I can do my job that well." Well look at it now, so much for doing a good job right?
It is server 1000000% how people don’t get it , every time you play online on official or public servers you get files and game usually have to check them, but he moves his files around 🤣🤣🤣
You clearly dont know what you are talking about, I doubt you ever saw or developed a game , or hacked someone or something. You are wrong in so many levels
@@Diopp. you right, but i heard people get cheats from cs go public server it is why valve made people close the game if you want an official server game after public lol.
@@evgenyzhithere7956 That actually wasnt the reason for that, the reason for that was because when you joined a custom server you receive files from the servers, you downlod them etc… or use some you already downloaded and by default this folder gets "hidden"/ doesnt work unless you join a comm server, so when you restart those files are unacessible unless you join a community server, now those files have to be a certain type of files, for map, skins etc… and They cannot and are never run with admin permission. Now a cheat needs to have the highest permission possible since it manipulates memory in your computer, thats how it functions, and also has to be usually an exe, althought some can be change. But I doubt they never could downloadable via server. I believe they did that because people had cheats and where hiding those cheats in that folder, making valves shit anti-cheat not block them. Sorry if i came of rude
I have a conspiracy theory, hear me out: The cheating problem has always been plaguing the game since the early days right? What if the reason the 40+ ppl that got fired was due to the fact that they were selling company data/ working with third parties to earn $$$? And the company finally realized and could fire them?
This guys obviously blackmailing someone BIG at Respawn and in return he’s giving them access to Servers. Someone specifically in the Anti Cheat Team like Hideouts
Bro that is massively impressive and he has all the right to use it to verify himself. It’s like saying to Usain Bolt that he doesn’t know shit about sprinting.
This feels like the math kid explaining homework to the baseball player
Cope
@@angelrivas4042Bro what are you saying?
@@maozedowner5915 😭😭😭
@@maozedowner5915 I'm telling him to cope.
Huh??? Makes no sense @@angelrivas4042
it's interesting how I get recommended thor shorts so often and now hes got an apex crossover love this content
lmfaoooo same
Thor’s biggest takeaway was that claims need to have proof.
All I’m seeing in these comments are more assumptions and hastily conclusions. It’s like y’all didn’t watch the video… smh
literally this is how all of society is
I learned a lot in this video, but the main thing is exactly that. Claims need to have proof.
The issue here isn’t being blamed for cheating. The issue here is the MULTIPLE felonies Destroyer2009 is committing. And he’s 100% right. If situations like this, you NEED proof. It’s not optional.
@@WhosDeitywhich fellonies is he comitting exactly?
@@WhosDeityThe problem is he's probably Russian, and so therefore untouchable
The cyber security team definitely taking the blame,but we know they dont have the shit to block the cheat with poor budget
I like to see it as a stove fire spreading into the whole kitchen. At first, it was just a small stove fire, but EA/Respawn let it keep burning and now the kitchen is on fire. At the moment, based on their action they will either use a fire extinguisher to put part of it out or they will get a firetruck and put the whole fire out. Unfortunately, i think EA/Respawn will probably just put part of the fire out and say we are good until eventually the whole house is on fire.
You're right about this poor budget. They didn't learn from Titanfall and at the moment, they have to spend a shit ton to fix this compared to how much less they could've paid if they attacked hacking a lot harder from the very beginning. We'll see what happens, but i don't have much confidence in EA/Respawn.
Didn't you hear what Thor is saying in this video? You need proof for claim. And you say "definitely" with no insider knowledge I assume. Because lets think about all the possiblities. If it's a zeroday RCE vulnerability, how is that on cyber security team? It would mean the original devs created flaw in engine and those devs are gone. If Hal and Genburten downloaded malware to their PC, how is that on cyber security? If it's a server side exploit, there are countless of possibilities. For example a compromised employee account. Which is an individual failure. It could also be on AWS who I believe is the cloud provider for apex or the firewall vendor AWS is contracted with. But yeah you know it definitely...
Apex made 1.3 billion on steam in 2023 this is a Respawn and definitely a EA issue and it's bullshit that it had to come to this just to see if they'll finally do something about.
destroyer2009 prolly watchin this goin " yoooo, im boutta take down the whole server this guys smart as fuck"
this feels like Kira vs L
Lmaoo fr
They need to hire him lol. Fire irl anime.
I feel like this had turned out to be a nice free therapy session for Mande 🤣
bro really had so many conflicting feelings about apex... honestly feel the same way though but I think thor is wrong about apex being dead, and Mande is wrong / short sighted about the direction the game is taking. We've seen a lot of improvements recently in the state of the game and a hack like this is just more data that the security team can use to remedy the situation, if they care to. As long as people's computers aren't at risk then this situation isn't really super crazy, but it's fun seeing the breakdowns from thor and prime
EA: *Makes Billions on Apex*
Also EA: “CyberSec employees are too expensive”
Alright bro
They didn't make that money by investing in things that don't show a direct increase in profits. As the game gets more successful, they shed more weight with layoffs to milk the game more for less. Unfortunately, they won't be incentivized to invest more into their security team and anti-cheat until that lack of investment turns enough players/buyers away to hit their bottom line. By that point, knowing EA they'll probably think it makes more financial sense to just shut the game down rather than fix it.
Big gaming companies are cost-cutting everywhere and are ridiculously risk-averse these days with how unstable everything is right now.
Game's still making money and they're scared that investing in their security team will be a waste of money if they'll still lose to cheat makers. Thank capitalism for this.
Greed doesnt equal capitalism.@eastsidechump92
@@Silverlined_69 no it just heavily incentivizes it
All these vulnerabilities in the respawn system have been there since Titanfall 1. Sidalpha was filling steamer lobbies with bots back then making it unplayable. Upper echelon has a couple of videos on it.
If apex won’t hire him it is over 😂
Facts lol
He’s way too expensive I’d imagine.
@@MarkRidesCoastersHe said it himself that their job is not cheap but expensive. Didnt apex fired people weeks ago? Highly doubt they will hire anyone in that field.
@@MrDiegoc16 Well if the current team won't be able to fix this, they might not have a choice but to hire someone else lol
these people who have the creds cost alot. The guy who helped developed vanguard and worked for the us defense department approached valve to help them make an anticheat and they declined. These companies dnt want to fork over the millions for fair play bcuz its all about the shareholders. Sad truth of playing fps games in 2024 and im sure it'll get worse over the years.
Apex even had kill replays a few weeks back and it was easy to identify cheaters.
Then they removed it as it was probably embarrassing for them how many people were obviously cheating.
this guy is theeeeeee best person to have in your company...
35:00 from this point it sounded like mande was getting therapy seems like he really needed to let all that frustration out
Thank you for sharing this video! This is vitally important information that the Apex community needs right now.
The worst Iv seen was black ops 2 hackers changing the game and map and typing on my screen and controlling whatever they wanted
Destroyer. If you see this. Can you drop me some Pred badges and some packs 😭
10:38 perfect timing
Hacker now :"challenge accepted"
This dwstroyer guy is literals a main villain
tbh best employee ever
Please Respawn, fix this shit. I want this game to last for a long time. 😭
It has lasted for impressively long already though 👀
I feel like with this much questioning, this hacker is just about to go ham in the next few days to just be like "I'll show you what I can do" LOL
I hope he destroys apex and frees us all as the messiah!!!
@@bleach7958 Worried about the wrong things
@@Nrod1332 huh
@@bleach7958 Lisan Al-Gaib!
what people are not talking about is the actual cost of rep loss and actual monetary loss of having to buy a new computer.
This could be the 21st century reimagining of Thor vs The Destroyer 😂
Damn this feels like a podcast
Destroyer told me he can mirror anyone's computer with out them knowing!
That's called a rat (remote access tool) and no. You can not just rat any computer. That computer has to be compromised with said rat before he can use the rat to his advantage. Only way to get compromised is to download something that he made that contains the rat and you ran that.
@@UnfiIteredbased on what you just said, he most definitely can.
@@miked815 based on what I said, he most definitely can not. Unless you download a file that destoryer2009 made, that contains a rat encoded into it. He can not rat your computer. It would be a RCE zero day exploit of windows itself if he could rat your computer without you downloading something he made. Let me explain it simple terms if you have no idea what Im talking about.
Destoryer2009 : Makes file encoded with rat : labels it "Adobe PhotoShop Crack"(or any file really..) : Upload it to the internet : Person downloads it and run said file : Person is now hacked without knowing it.
Person don't download strange things : Person can't get ratted
Thor Thor Thor Thor!! Hire him! Fix the game!
Thor providing free therapy session for the community, protect this man at all costs
I think part of this that he isn’t understanding is that the hacker is a fan of the game, he doesn’t want to ruin the game for everyone. Just wants to prove his point of how easy it is, an 18 y/o from Belarus being able to do this is impressive but like Mande says in his video, he’ll grow up and mature and realize his mistakes
Software streamer of the year is on the case! I still wish Vedal987 would have won, but clearly this guys got some chops. I'm definitely gonna sub and follow him after this whole fiasco.
Same thing happened to me on black Ops 2 Zombies, tripped out for like 1 minute like Gens Burters screen and then God mode 🤣🤣
Simple thing - EA knows all these but doesn't have the man power and the detection algo for ban waves.
Hopefully they will consider putting some effort into this.
this man thor is cooking I hope respawn sees this. I think EA makes them stay silent but I don't know
37:11 W to the mande OMEGALUL
lol when the screen for the hacks open on genburten's screen , the bottom thing says vote putin 🤣
Finally!... Somebody brings up the disgruntled employees!? Thank you Mande. I said this on day 1.... Guaranteed, one of those Apex Dev's that got laid-off/fired, with little or no warning, by EA/Respawn last week has something to do with what we witnessed on Sunday.
Packs are merely there to figure out which ID matches up to which player I'd think, we've seen the entire bot lobbies dropping on streamers, the servers wouldn't recognise individual user names they'd have unique IDs, having an entire lobby being mainly bots & targets and maybe a few legit people you then gift each one you know isn't your own characters those packs until you see the targeted streamer receive them you then have there unique ID to be able to target that person directly.
The thing I find weird with gens Clip is the hack was launched mid game which should not be possible to get the correct access level required once the game is launched which makes it kinda look like it was rce on the client
The hack could've been auto hooked prior to game launch and just kept in the background listening for call from home. I'm just guessing but the port forwarding that showed up after installing MB, is what the injected hack was listening to. Once a packet was received, it would do what the packet says to do. Mind you it had to be kernel level since apex is also kernel level.
@UnfiItered it's possible... I just don't see how it would have been possible to load the hacks up beforehand without anyone noticing, just seems strange from my end without seeing the 'hack'.
The IP address that was found was a basic ping bot server and hal just had dumb firewall settings.
Apex has an internal messenger/updater for hot fixes etc if someone found a vulnerability there it wouldn't be hard to force a client update (Hal's screen went black with the apex loading screen for a bit just before the hack) and update configs for that client OR big brain respawn has internal 'cheats' for testing as we never actually seen if the mod menu was real or just a jpeg (I could be wrong but I'd say the internal updater would have a way to send pop ups/messages)
Put it this way Respawn didn't do a security patch for the servers because a couple of pros computers got hacked, so something was definitely up with the servers
They should sent destroyer a contract when they are not knowing how to fix this
Absolute dogshit situation and nothing will improve lmao
34:07 this is why call of duty aka Activision is dying or dead cuz they don’t care because they are still gonna make crazy amount of money every year
Bro really needs to turn his sub alerts off. It's so odd trying to have a serious conversation, only for it to keep going off.
Respawn should offer Destroyer a job at this point. This guy has been consistently hacking and evading bans for more than 5 seasons lol that has merit in itself.
Apex needs to hire this guy
you are too easily impressed.
@@semaph0re
>Worked for Blizzard and worked for the Federal Government to hack Power Plants
>Somehow easily impressed
???????????????
@semaph0re dude was hacking into powerplants for the federal government how tf can u not be impressed?
@@RorschDG-2yall are FAR hyping him up bro 😂. He even said himself he only banned a total or 2 million people. And he knew people banning 13 million every 3 months lol
I think so
Why can t they create algorithm that looks at certain parameters like recoil, repetitive hs from distance, anomalies like infinite laser beam with charge rifle,… and if you cross certain thresholds deemed impossible… you re ban. Might not solve all types of cheat but at least the hard aim it cheats or else… allow famous streamers like gen or hal to ban… and when they do send report or clip motivating ban,.. etc? If as said it is a community problem, involve representative of that community…?
how does riot's kernel level anti-cheat works like a charm
Because if the cheat is also kernel level and isn't using known method or don't have the same signature as known cheats, it don't know what to look for?
doesn't Mandie buy events out?
If you can’t prove it, don’t repeat it
Sweet could learn a thing or two from this one
Destroyer about to go out and hit every single streamer, streaming apex over the next week
I couldn’t think of a more pathetic way for someone to spend their day💀😭
@@Manning0151 why? Respawn won’t fix their game, so it takes people like destroyer to do it. Maybe just maybe they’ll fix it, remember Tufi yea well this is the same issue as then and they never fixed it so now destroyer has exploited it even more they’re forced to do something
I wonder if the cheater has server side access?? 🧐🤔
fr homie just repeating himself
Guys I SWEAR TO GOD i just got an apex ad 15 mins into this video😂😂😂😂😂
If he really wanna prove how good he is give everyone apex packs
"thats pretty good"
is he good hacker different from destroyer2009?
how can you distinguish it?
Well he’s worked for the police but theres always someone better than you at the end of the day.
If apex is smart. Big IF. They would hire Thor to come in and help clean up the servers and add code to the anti cheat
That's karma.
For Titanfall 2 which was unplayable for almost 3 years due to hacks and ddos attacks.
And what did EA and Respawn do?
They didn't care, they let the community down.
Karma baby karma.
They should have a pay gate like CS, so we can play against other paying costumers...
This is the only real working anticheat that works till this day!
Idk if mande even understand what they've said lmao
This is wild bro lol
This guy just said the same thing over and over in About 30 different ways to make it seem alot more complicated then it was.
Long Live Daddy Destroyer!!
My two favorite streamers, Theprimeagen and Pirate software
It might be someone’s kid or something from EA, maybe Apex is one of the only servers that has a vulnerability.
Why has no-one mentioned the other name on the hack - R4ndom? This could be the inside man, so to speak!
May be we should report on steam too. Steam care their user more than EA / Respawn
PirateSoftware sounds like he's daring the cheater to do worse
People join cheater server in cs 1.6 and get files and how you can use them on different server lol
Pirate = Destroyer
I do want to clear up some things.
1. Thor isn't a "professional hacker" lmao. That's just clickbait. He's the former CISO (chief information security office) for Blizzard if i remember correctly.
2. Claims need evidence is a 100% valid takeaway from this video. Problem is is that respawn will never give us a 100% response. Regardless if anyone feels entitled to the answer.
3. The first thing you learned in security plus is that the cybersecurity team that is The first thing you learned in Security+ is that the cybersecurity team is one of the most essential parts of a company. Especially online gaming companies but companies like EA rarely give the proper assistance to the cyber teams.
4. Respawn NEEDS to give a good statement about this and not just a "we're aware and working on it." Because companies have said that before (reapawn included) and nothing was done and before you type "they can't just tell the hackers their plans." Bro they hacked into ALGS regional tournaments. Do you think that they won't have a workaround for whatever Respawn has cooking up?
5. Making an apex 2, with its own dedicated launcher and anti-cheat. Would be the only play that EA has to save this game that I can see.
P.S
Please do not harass the devs or the CS team working for Respawn. They're probably way more stressed than you losing your ranked matches being the fact that this is their job and they can get fired because of it. Stuff does need to change but only if there's clear communication between the devs and the community.
Wait for an official response and THEN lose your minds over it.
If the man himself calls himself a professional hacker, I'm inclined to believe him, I'm sure the definition of "hacker" can be fitted to his experience and capability
@@nokutori9964 He said that because Mande probably doesn't know what a CISO is but yea. The title of "professional hacker" works lol. Just sounds like something an edgy teen who figured out how to grab IPs would tell people.
Wait could ea and apex lose sponsors over this😂
The game is over with who ever it is can literally shut down apex forever. They have to make a new apex.
Streamers are talking about it more while Hideouts play victims on Twitter lmao
Why not turn into a hero and remove everyone's cheats so the game is fair again 😂
I think thor is taking this guy too serious. Considering all his past deeds... He's probably just doing it for the lols😂😂 that's why he isn't launchin mass attacks
I think it’s more that the fact that the vulnerabilities exist, could potentially give the guy the access to do more harmful things or someone he sells his hacks to uses them for their own nefarious reason. I agree that they’re just doing this for exposure right now. I honestly even have a small bit of faith it’s an ex employee upset the company hasn’t done anything to help fix these problems for a long time and is trying to force the issue. We will see…
it's not about destroyer being able to do that, it's about the vulnerabilities in the easy anti cheat. He may be doing it for the lols, but what about someone who's truly malicious? If it's client-side RCE, they can literally do whatever they want with your computer.
He said so himself in the beginning of the video. “The old meme ,for the lolz “
That's literally what Thor says
I hope players support the devs more... Remember that they're also human. I'm sure they try their best to fix the problems; at least the devs who care about the game.
I think they do the bare minimum and focus on milking players with overpriced cosmetics. the people who care, who built the game have left the studio long ago.
I think the devs do the bare minimum. Like Mande said, it feels like communication from the devs is nonexistent
@@Killerbee_McTittiesbut that’s not necessarily the devs fault. They might have the best intentions to create a great game but hands are tied because EA is greedy and only cares about the player base who spends money on the game. They’d rather see the game die and lay off employees than fix a problem that cost them money.
'No'.
I am glad that Hideouts is getting flak for some of this. He's been so smug with his shit, this comes off the heels of him responding to someone smugly like "Oh, I can do this and EDM music because I can do my job that well." Well look at it now, so much for doing a good job right?
@@uncagedmnc956why should they do more than what they are asked or paid to do
This video is exposing EA and Respawn so much. There is comparably nothing worse than the facts and knowledge elicited here.
Same was with cs 1.6
It is server 1000000% how people don’t get it , every time you play online on official or public servers you get files and game usually have to check them, but he moves his files around 🤣🤣🤣
Genius here i guess
You clearly dont know what you are talking about, I doubt you ever saw or developed a game , or hacked someone or something. You are wrong in so many levels
@@Diopp. you right, but i heard people get cheats from cs go public server it is why valve made people close the game if you want an official server game after public lol.
@@evgenyzhithere7956 That actually wasnt the reason for that, the reason for that was because when you joined a custom server you receive files from the servers, you downlod them etc… or use some you already downloaded and by default this folder gets "hidden"/ doesnt work unless you join a comm server, so when you restart those files are unacessible unless you join a community server, now those files have to be a certain type of files, for map, skins etc… and They cannot and are never run with admin permission. Now a cheat needs to have the highest permission possible since it manipulates memory in your computer, thats how it functions, and also has to be usually an exe, althought some can be change. But I doubt they never could downloadable via server. I believe they did that because people had cheats and where hiding those cheats in that folder, making valves shit anti-cheat not block them. Sorry if i came of rude
I’ll take some packs and heirlooms lol 😂
Destroyer99 get back to console lobbies it’s the only time I can spectate you destroying lobby shit is fun to watch ngl 😂
What if destroyer 2009 is just exposing streamers/ pro players for hacking and trying to get devs to make the game more secure from cheating…
I know destroyer 😂
I have a conspiracy theory, hear me out:
The cheating problem has always been plaguing the game since the early days right? What if the reason the 40+ ppl that got fired was due to the fact that they were selling company data/ working with third parties to earn $$$? And the company finally realized and could fire them?
🤔Mmaybe maybe not! Interesting thought
I want to collab with #Destroyer2009 and R4ndom. Ask me how I own @420 on youtube. Not by doing podcasts and bragging about past work achievements.
You all have no idea why is this happening 🤝 non
1. nothing prove nothing
2. we dont know hacker intentions
3. bla bla bla not situation related
saved you 50 minutes
This guy is just talking in circles blowing smoke lol "FoG oF wAr".
Funny how know ones thinks he just could have been cheating, Hal just being a friend and trying to get him off
If your talking about Hal, Hal has played on lan and performed just as well as he has online. he is definitely not cheating lol.
Because everyone has more than half a brain cell?, it’s pretty obvious that 2 of the best apex players ever, proven on Lan, aren’t gonna just cheat
Bro there’s no way you are this stupid
whos the squeaky voice dude? 0 contribution to the conversation just interjecting and making weird jokes
This guys obviously blackmailing someone BIG at Respawn and in return he’s giving them access to Servers. Someone specifically in the Anti Cheat Team like Hideouts
Obviously but no proof?
Mental illness is real.
Unless you show me real evidence ,ur word is hearsay.
Or it's an employee that got laid off and wants to get back at EA/Respawn. Week prior to regional finals, they fired a lot of people.
@@BigSuzpekt nope Destroyer been doing this for months the layoffs just recently happened
I hAvE 3 BAdgEs fRoM DeFCoN.
Right?? Bros acting like he’s worked for the nsa or some shit
You sir are sad
@@jmitch12he was hacking power plants for the government and you're saying that? Shit for brains
Why Tf you crying lmao
Bro that is massively impressive and he has all the right to use it to verify himself.
It’s like saying to Usain Bolt that he doesn’t know shit about sprinting.
Lemme get some packs @ plugwokk 😂😂😂