Never been to more Giants games than when Barry was playing, and I'm an A's fan. His homeruns were nothing like anyone else's in the league. They were violent. They were spectacular. And they came often. What an era!
But then he cheated. It's what made him so great. He already was a HOF then when he should have been ending his career he decided to use steroids and it made him better. Same with Clemens. Pete Rose bet on baseball and was banned for life. But to me steroids was worse.
@@VegasLoungeActnobody came close to his numbers even on PED, but that doesn't remove the fact that he still, cheated. Other people cheating doesn't make his cheating any less bad. If he can match performance on no steroid with cheating people, then I believe he is HOF, but I guess we'll never know.
@@TheDiscostu31 He was a super talent that increased his power, and only his power, by taking juice. Still doesn't take away from him being HOF worthy before he ever touched the stuff.
Shinnosuke Abe, a Japanese all-star catcher for almost two decades in NPB, described his experience facing Bonds behind the plate in 2002: "Just when I thought the ball got in my catcher's mitt, I realized it went over the fence. I thought I had caught the ball." Otherworldly bat speed/power and plate discipline.
As a Padres fan I witnessed many of the countless HR's he hit off the Padres but the one I remember the most was when I was in the right field bleachers at Qualcomm stadium and Barry hit one so hard when it traveled over my head you can hear the sizzle of the ball cutting through the air. The ball was still on an upward trajectory and would have gone at least another 100 plus feey out of the entire stadium if not for the jumbotron scoreboard getting in the way. Once the ball hit the scoreboard it came embeddedd in one of the pixel squares of the jumbotron. Everyone in the stands was like amazed at what they just saw. This was prior to all of the steroid talk, the guy was amazing. The only other player I have witnessed hit a ball further in that stadium was Willie Stargell.
Wow. Kratz made a great point. Bonds made hitting homeruns in SF Stadium easy. Such a tough park to hit in. Made it look like he was hitting in Cincy or Philly.
When people claim he was on juice, how come no one else who was a confirmed PED user even came close to his numbers? He is the GOAT. It is not a hall of fame without him in there. All this asterisk talk is nonesense
1st MLB game I ever attended was in 07...Mets were in SF. Barry hit a walk off TANK off Billy Wagner. Didnt expect Bonds to retire, after that season. Needless to say, that moment will forever be in my Baseball Treasured Archives!!
Barry had the best hand eye coordination, bat speed, swing, and plate discipline I have ever seen. He could make the HOF with his numbers before steroids. He had a couple of seasons left despite no one picking him up..
As a baseball fan I can say Barry was the best player I ever saw. The fact that he is not in the HOF is a joke! Although his suspected roid use sucks, and as it was said in the video, so many other players were using and a lot were pitchers, he was the best. What is not said enough is the steroids were NOT ILLEGAL in the game at that time! Bud Selig was the commissioner who turned a blind eye to the usage because it made the game relevant and grew fans! How is HE in the HOF and Barry is not?? The HOF is a joke without the best players from their era...regardless of what they were taking to make the game better! There are many men in the HOF that wouldn't be if the same standards were applied then as there are now. The excuses made are based on Character and Sportsmanship: Assessment of a player's integrity, sportsmanship, and character. Barry is not in because he had a bad relationship with the media.
My friend had the wgn channel that played cubs games. We would only watch when the giants were there and bonds came up to bat. His dad would yell out the window “bonds is hitting!” And we would all run inside and watch his at bat
Yes they do. The faster you can swing the bat, the longer you can wait on a pitch, the better your decision making. Fractions if seconds make a difference
People forget or don’t even know he had 495 home runs before the steroid stuff started. He saw McGwire and soda have the 98 season and knew he’s better than them so he got on the juice at that point
He was on stuff... so was lots of others, but they didn't do what he did. The pitchers throwing to him were juiced. Other hitters were juiced. But there was only one Barry. He was the best 5 tool player in MLB before we have any indication of juicing. Amazing player.
But they did.. .with many guys hitting over 50 home runs, 60 and 70. They weren't as good as him because he was a HOF taking steroids where Sosa and McGuire were all stars they weren't HOF's. Cheating is cheating. Worse that he didn't need it but his ego hated watching mid players over shadowing him. F him
I was young but I’m a dbacks fan so I saw Bonds a lot. What it felt like to play that guy isn’t anything like any other hitter. And the snakes had Randy Johnson and Curt Schilling lol. It wasn’t just when Barry was hitting, it was how you had to map out when he was hitting again. There was nothing like it
These guys are such Shohei lovers. Everything is compared to Shohei's season last year. OPS of 190 is exceptional, but Aaron Judge was literally 30% better with an OPS of 223 with an inferior lineup AND playing center field. Incredibly, this historical season by Judge would have been the 5th best Bonds season 😅
Roids surely helps with contact though, not that I disagree that he was great. But I get tired of the argument that it only helps you hit the ball further, if you're stronger your bat is quicker, and that results in you swinging and missing less, or the difference between being slightly late or just on time.
I heard a story about when he got called up. I don't know if it's true. Supposedly, Bonds was in AAA playing for Hawaii. GM Syd Thrift told Barry to hit one out to each field on consecutive pitches which he did. The best I've ever seen.
He's the greatest I've ever seen by far and for those who say he was on the stuff well he was doing it Pittsburgh before he was in SF. Being on Juice doesn't make you hit a baseball better or whatever because if so many people were on Juice why is Bonds so much better than they were? Why isn't McGwire, Sosa etc close to his numbers or sustained greatness, hell im a life long Dodgers fan and Bonds is my favorite player of all time. Dominant isn't the word that would do his career justice. He'll you have alcoholics, drug addicts, domestic abusers in the hall why not the juice heads?
Check out the showdown with Cy Young Eric Gagne in '04. Could a (almost) 40yo Bonds catch up with 103 mph? Dude PULLS it foul into the Bay before homering. What chance did mere mortals have? 688 intentional walks. Insane.
The PED argument against Barry being the goat should not be allowed to be used. Like AJ said, it did not matter if he was on sauce or not, he was the best!
I'll give props to AJ on saying Barry was better than Griffey offensively. Here's why. When Griffey went to Cincinnati, I thought he and Barry would be neck and neck in IBBs year after year. Well, in his first season in Cincinnati, Griffey only mustered 17 intentional walks, while Barry got twice that number. Griffey never ever commanded that level of respect even without the DH in the lineup while in the National League. Plus, outside of his rookie year (100+ K's) Barry didn't strike out at all for a power hitter except for 90+ in '01. Barry was always at least 20-25 less K's than Griffey and FAR more walks. I love Griffey, but Barry commanded way more respect in the area of intimidation when it came to pitching strategy.
Griffey never had a great hitters eye and he has said he’ll swing at a bad pitch try and get a RBI where as Bonds always had a great eye and would take a walk over a RBI every time so different hitters in that respect plus Bonds was on cutting edge PEDs by 2000 were Griffey was already in phase 1 of his decline in 2000
Since you brought up the comp, I’m curious who players from the time felt was the better player: Seattle Griffey or Pittsburgh Bonds. Griffey slowed in Cincinnati. Bonds put an asterisk on his legacy in San Francisco
The irony being that he was a 1st ballot hall of famer without the juice. Check out his stats during his Pittsburgh run and then especially the first few years in San Francisco. All time great player. Threw away his legacy juicing to chase home runs. Not dissimilar to A-Rod. Sad.
He played many seasons after testing was introduced and still put up 45 homers a ton of walks and high ob% in his late 30's early 40's. He could have hit 70 hr at 38 if he was pitches to.
Barry Bonds was the best player, that shouldn't have been caught up in the needlegate. He was a pure HoF automatic, and that's the tragedy of the story
The tragic part is he did all the damage to his reputation, himself. Bonds did himself no favors at all with how he treated others. Bonds didn’t have to cheat, to be the best. He just added power to his stuff. But, the guy connected better than anyone.
You're not asking the right question. 'How great was Barry Bonds, Really?' Bonds sublime pedigree helped Jeff Kent, but it got Kent left out of HOF due to EC media hate despite Bonds NOT testing + for steroids. Baseball media stars hated Bonds because writers didn't create him.
The man still had nearly 3000 hits, 500+ stolen bases and countless gold gloves. Add the clutch hitting and OBP.... Steroids doesnt get you that. Bonds was one of the greatest.
Juiced Barry had no equal. To put how good he was in perspective, he could out homers both Ohtani and Judges together if given the same pitches they got.
Juice doesn't improve hand eye coordination or vision nor timing. Juice only increases size. All of that era should be in the hof regardless of what they took.
Kind of unfair comparison s when one guy gets a juice advantage. Not that he wasn’t an all-time great anyway, but he cheated later in his career. Comparably speaking, he’s where he is because of the juice.
You’re just telling a bunch of stories about what bonds did when he was on steroids. That doesn’t tell us that Barry bonds was great; it tells us that steroids work
@koningklootzak7788 I guess you know more than me and majority of all mlb players. I've never heard anyone but today's young fans say ohtani is the best ever. His numbers don't add up and he hasn't done it long enough. Let's check back in 5 to 6 years. Merry Christmas
@koningklootzak7788 I guess you know more than me and majority of all mlb players. I've never heard anyone but today's young fans say ohtani is the best ever. His numbers don't add up and he hasn't done it long enough. Let's check back in 5 to 6 years. Merry Christmas
Bonds cheated, but he was also a 1st ballot HOF player prior to using gear. Would the numbers be what they were without the get, no of course not. That said, Bonds is a Top 3 offensive player All-Time. There’s Ruth, Williams, Bonds & Mays. Those 4 offensively were unmatched.
I can't say he was the greatest player, because I think there were a couple of guys who could keep up with him with the bat, but his defense was not great. He was not a very good left fielder... You can certainly make the case he's the best hitter ever... The argument I don't like is that steroids only give you more power. Na, it can make a fly ball to right a home run, which ups your batting average. Steroids makes jam shots land in shallow left instead of in the 3rd baseman's glove. Steroids give you the capability to catch up to that high heater that might blow passed most guys... I'm not denying his greatness, but I do think that steroids certainly were a factor. As far as being a pure hitter, even if he was on steroids, he definitely could be the best to ever do it. I probably gotta give it to Ken Griffey Jr as far as greatest player ever, but Barry bonds was a monster, and nobody can deny that.
It is not the juice. I don't even think he started juicing until after his historic 400-400 season, which coincidentally was the same year McGwire and Sosa stole the limelight. The dude will not be in the HOF because he is a legendary asshole. That said, the guy was the best.
Need more Barry stories! Barry is the GOAT; put him in the hall already. 🔥
Look at the stats before steroids
From 92-07 he had one year with an ops below 1000 and it was .999 in 06😂😂
Yup, and that was old barry, playing defense everyday with surgery repaired knee and the press bothering him all the time. Thats how great he was
Yeah easy to inflate your slugging when you're juiced
@@galap0g0sisland75% of baseball players were juiced back then lol 😅
@@galap0g0sislandeven so, he was above 1.000 for most of the 90s when he wasnt juicing
Deserve To Be In The Hall Of Fame
Best player I was fortunate to ever see play, and was my favourite player for years. I hope he makes the HOF in his lifetime.
Never been to more Giants games than when Barry was playing, and I'm an A's fan. His homeruns were nothing like anyone else's in the league. They were violent. They were spectacular. And they came often. What an era!
Love hearing these stories from you guys. Please do more!
agreed. Going to do more of these!
Bonds had a HOF resume WAY before he ever started on juice. He should've been a unanimous 1st ballot guy.
But then he cheated. It's what made him so great. He already was a HOF then when he should have been ending his career he decided to use steroids and it made him better. Same with Clemens. Pete Rose bet on baseball and was banned for life. But to me steroids was worse.
@laartwork Lots of guys cheated. Did anyone else accomplish what he did after they started taking juice?
@@VegasLoungeActnobody came close to his numbers even on PED, but that doesn't remove the fact that he still, cheated. Other people cheating doesn't make his cheating any less bad. If he can match performance on no steroid with cheating people, then I believe he is HOF, but I guess we'll never know.
@@VegasLoungeAct Nope. He was the best cheater
@@TheDiscostu31 He was a super talent that increased his power, and only his power, by taking juice. Still doesn't take away from him being HOF worthy before he ever touched the stuff.
Shinnosuke Abe, a Japanese all-star catcher for almost two decades in NPB, described his experience facing Bonds behind the plate in 2002: "Just when I thought the ball got in my catcher's mitt, I realized it went over the fence. I thought I had caught the ball." Otherworldly bat speed/power and plate discipline.
And juiced. That helps.
He was an absolute beast of a man. His bat speed was insane
Depends on your definition of a man. My definition emphasizes character
232 BBs in one season. This dude was on a completely different universe of scary at the plate (for pitchers).
If you're playing a video game its still hard to replicate Bonds seasons lol.
As a Padres fan I witnessed many of the countless HR's he hit off the Padres but the one I remember the most was when I was in the right field bleachers at Qualcomm stadium and Barry hit one so hard when it traveled over my head you can hear the sizzle of the ball cutting through the air. The ball was still on an upward trajectory and would have gone at least another 100 plus feey out of the entire stadium if not for the jumbotron scoreboard getting in the way. Once the ball hit the scoreboard it came embeddedd in one of the pixel squares of the jumbotron. Everyone in the stands was like amazed at what they just saw. This was prior to all of the steroid talk, the guy was amazing. The only other player I have witnessed hit a ball further in that stadium was Willie Stargell.
I remember that Homerun. I thought
It was one of
His furthest, but I can’t find it on you tube. It hit the scoreboard at Qualcomm. It was a bomb
Wow. Kratz made a great point. Bonds made hitting homeruns in SF Stadium easy. Such a tough park to hit in. Made it look like he was hitting in Cincy or Philly.
Imagine Bonds playing half his games at Yankee Stadium 😤
When people claim he was on juice, how come no one else who was a confirmed PED user even came close to his numbers? He is the GOAT. It is not a hall of fame without him in there. All this asterisk talk is nonesense
Claim?
Because he was on something. He was the greatest AND he was juiced. Both things can be true at the same time.
1st MLB game I ever attended was in 07...Mets were in SF. Barry hit a walk off TANK off Billy Wagner. Didnt expect Bonds to retire, after that season. Needless to say, that moment will forever be in my Baseball Treasured Archives!!
Barry had the best hand eye coordination, bat speed, swing, and plate discipline I have ever seen. He could make the HOF with his numbers before steroids. He had a couple of seasons left despite no one picking him up..
As a baseball fan I can say Barry was the best player I ever saw. The fact that he is not in the HOF is a joke! Although his suspected roid use sucks, and as it was said in the video, so many other players were using and a lot were pitchers, he was the best. What is not said enough is the steroids were NOT ILLEGAL in the game at that time! Bud Selig was the commissioner who turned a blind eye to the usage because it made the game relevant and grew fans! How is HE in the HOF and Barry is not?? The HOF is a joke without the best players from their era...regardless of what they were taking to make the game better! There are many men in the HOF that wouldn't be if the same standards were applied then as there are now. The excuses made are based on Character and Sportsmanship: Assessment of a player's integrity, sportsmanship, and character. Barry is not in because he had a bad relationship with the media.
His run from like 01-04 was similar to video game levels which have not been duplicated.
I wonder what other 4 year stretches in history are even in the stratosphere?
Honestly on the highest difficulty in the show, I think it would be tough to match his 04 OBP.
My friend had the wgn channel that played cubs games. We would only watch when the giants were there and bonds came up to bat. His dad would yell out the window “bonds is hitting!” And we would all run inside and watch his at bat
Only struck out more than 100 times once and that was in his rookie year.
Yes Barry was on gear. So was every pitcher that was pitching to him. He’s the best of the best. It’s a joke he isn’t in the HOF
And 2004 the year AJ was on the giants, might have been his best year. He hit more home runs than he had strikeouts
Bonds was so good he didn't need to take steroids or Human Growth Hormones. But he did.
Basically all of MLB was on peds
Steroids don't help your plate discipline
Eye coordination too
Yes they do. The faster you can swing the bat, the longer you can wait on a pitch, the better your decision making. Fractions if seconds make a difference
@@midnsingh ok Singh
@@anthonysanpaoloSingh is right. Bonds was one of the best before the juice, but the juice was definitely a factor later in his career.
But balls that would have been caught were suddenly going over the wall. Ask Brady Anderson.
People forget or don’t even know he had 495 home runs before the steroid stuff started. He saw McGwire and soda have the 98 season and knew he’s better than them so he got on the juice at that point
Sosa
He was on stuff... so was lots of others, but they didn't do what he did. The pitchers throwing to him were juiced. Other hitters were juiced. But there was only one Barry. He was the best 5 tool player in MLB before we have any indication of juicing. Amazing player.
But they did.. .with many guys hitting over 50 home runs, 60 and 70. They weren't as good as him because he was a HOF taking steroids where Sosa and McGuire were all stars they weren't HOF's. Cheating is cheating. Worse that he didn't need it but his ego hated watching mid players over shadowing him. F him
I was young but I’m a dbacks fan so I saw Bonds a lot. What it felt like to play that guy isn’t anything like any other hitter. And the snakes had Randy Johnson and Curt Schilling lol. It wasn’t just when Barry was hitting, it was how you had to map out when he was hitting again. There was nothing like it
If prime Barry Bonds (2001-2004) was a free agent in this years off season he would get $1B
No he wouldn't. You're forgetting he was already in his late 30's😂
@@henrywallacesghost5883 good point.
And he was hitting against pitchers that were on steroids. That’s often missed
AJP is a real one for this take, he could’ve lied about his real truths to appease some but he spoke the truth.
I'm still upset his HR ball in St Louis went 2 rows over my head.
He did it in Oracle Park is actually the most insane thing. That place is huge, especially for lefties.
He was the best of all time and don't you fucking forget it.
Greatest of all time
These guys are such Shohei lovers. Everything is compared to Shohei's season last year. OPS of 190 is exceptional, but Aaron Judge was literally 30% better with an OPS of 223 with an inferior lineup AND playing center field. Incredibly, this historical season by Judge would have been the 5th best Bonds season 😅
Need to hear about Pujols
Still had to do the work, still had to make contact with the bat and ball, the best of all time
Roids surely helps with contact though, not that I disagree that he was great. But I get tired of the argument that it only helps you hit the ball further, if you're stronger your bat is quicker, and that results in you swinging and missing less, or the difference between being slightly late or just on time.
Still had to inject the needle in the butt cheeks to reach 762 😊
514 STOLEN BASES with almost 800 HOMERS is INSANEEEEEE
Just out of curiosity what criteria is being used to say ohtanis season was 11th compared to bonds career?
I heard a story about when he got called up. I don't know if it's true. Supposedly, Bonds was in AAA playing for Hawaii. GM Syd Thrift told Barry to hit one out to each field on consecutive pitches which he did. The best I've ever seen.
He's the greatest I've ever seen by far and for those who say he was on the stuff well he was doing it Pittsburgh before he was in SF. Being on Juice doesn't make you hit a baseball better or whatever because if so many people were on Juice why is Bonds so much better than they were? Why isn't McGwire, Sosa etc close to his numbers or sustained greatness, hell im a life long Dodgers fan and Bonds is my favorite player of all time. Dominant isn't the word that would do his career justice. He'll you have alcoholics, drug addicts, domestic abusers in the hall why not the juice heads?
Goat. Not even close. Teams were walking him with the bases loaded. Nuff said.
Check out the showdown with Cy Young Eric Gagne in '04. Could a (almost) 40yo Bonds catch up with 103 mph? Dude PULLS it foul into the Bay before homering. What chance did mere mortals have?
688 intentional walks. Insane.
Anyone can catch up to a 103 fastball. If a pitcher doesn't change up the speed of his pitches batters can adjust to his fastball
9:22 Brady Anderson * cough cough *
Greatest Baseball player EVER
The PED argument against Barry being the goat should not be allowed to be used. Like AJ said, it did not matter if he was on sauce or not, he was the best!
I'll give props to AJ on saying Barry was better than Griffey offensively. Here's why. When Griffey went to Cincinnati, I thought he and Barry would be neck and neck in IBBs year after year. Well, in his first season in Cincinnati, Griffey only mustered 17 intentional walks, while Barry got twice that number. Griffey never ever commanded that level of respect even without the DH in the lineup while in the National League.
Plus, outside of his rookie year (100+ K's) Barry didn't strike out at all for a power hitter except for 90+ in '01. Barry was always at least 20-25 less K's than Griffey and FAR more walks. I love Griffey, but Barry commanded way more respect in the area of intimidation when it came to pitching strategy.
Griffey never had a great hitters eye and he has said he’ll swing at a bad pitch try and get a RBI where as Bonds always had a great eye and would take a walk over a RBI every time so different hitters in that respect plus Bonds was on cutting edge PEDs by 2000 were Griffey was already in phase 1 of his decline in 2000
I detested him when he played because of obvious reasons, BUT NOBODY ELSE COULD HIT LIKE THAT! The best hitter I’ve ever seen!
The Best of the Best!!💯
The fact the catcher still waiting for the ball on the record shot is 😅 8:46
Since you brought up the comp, I’m curious who players from the time felt was the better player: Seattle Griffey or Pittsburgh Bonds. Griffey slowed in Cincinnati. Bonds put an asterisk on his legacy in San Francisco
The irony being that he was a 1st ballot hall of famer without the juice. Check out his stats during his Pittsburgh run and then especially the first few years in San Francisco. All time great player. Threw away his legacy juicing to chase home runs. Not dissimilar to A-Rod. Sad.
Only Albert Puljious 2001-2011 can compare to Barry Bonds! The machine
If you look at Barry’s stats…they hardly changed for his entire career. He had 1 season where HR’s were elevated, thats it
He played many seasons after testing was introduced and still put up 45 homers a ton of walks and high ob% in his late 30's early 40's. He could have hit 70 hr at 38 if he was pitches to.
A very fun episode. Would love some maddux or randy Johnson stories.
Barry Bonds was the best player, that shouldn't have been caught up in the needlegate. He was a pure HoF automatic, and that's the tragedy of the story
The tragic part is he did all the damage to his reputation, himself.
Bonds did himself no favors at all with how he treated others.
Bonds didn’t have to cheat, to be the best. He just added power to his stuff.
But, the guy connected better than anyone.
that fact that he’s not in the HOF and harold baines is makes the HOF a joke!
Bonds was the easiest guy to pitch to.....just walk him.... -Greg Maddux
The 500ft Homers are the greatest
Kratz is objectively incorrect about SF being the most difficult park to hit a homerun
You're not asking the right question. 'How great was Barry Bonds, Really?' Bonds sublime pedigree helped Jeff Kent, but it got Kent left out of HOF due to EC media hate despite Bonds NOT testing + for steroids. Baseball media stars hated Bonds because writers didn't create him.
His 73 homer season he literally only saw 1 or 2 hittable pitches a game
The man still had nearly 3000 hits, 500+ stolen bases and countless gold gloves. Add the clutch hitting and OBP.... Steroids doesnt get you that.
Bonds was one of the greatest.
Imagine what guys like Judge or Ohtani could do on that Bonds stack.
You think they’re not both on gear? You’re naive.
Juiced Barry had no equal. To put how good he was in perspective, he could out homers both Ohtani and Judges together if given the same pitches they got.
Barry Bonds belongs in the ⚾️ HOF!!!! Open your eyes HOF voters!!!! 😳
..best hitter of all time…
The best, ever.
he's him
Scott saying the right cycle is absurd and shows he doesn’t know anything about steroids.
The 2nd greatest after 24!
I love Griffey!!! But...steroids or not, I have to go Bonds. Same beast, but a different animal
Juice doesn't make you a better hiiter.. more power maybe, but it doesn't help your actual hitting. Put him in the HOF
Barry bonds, Michael Jordan, Tom Brady, Wayne Gretzky, messi, the best of the best
When is Brady Anderson these days? Camden Yards is a tiny ballpark…
Barry Bonds is head and shoulders above Babe Ruth and anyone else. By a mile the goat
They intentionally walked him with the bases LOADED... LOL. Discussion over.
The pitchers he was facing were on juice as well.
Juice doesn't improve hand eye coordination or vision nor timing. Juice only increases size. All of that era should be in the hof regardless of what they took.
As long as their was steroids Barry Bonds was the greatest baseball player!!!
The greatest. That’s it.
All of sudden we are in love with Barroid?
Baseball was a Ped league
Kind of unfair comparison s when one guy gets a juice advantage. Not that he wasn’t an all-time great anyway, but he cheated later in his career. Comparably speaking, he’s where he is because of the juice.
You’re just telling a bunch of stories about what bonds did when he was on steroids. That doesn’t tell us that Barry bonds was great; it tells us that steroids work
He is the goat
No. He is the roidgoat.
The real goat is Ohtani.
@koningklootzak7788 Delusional
Bonds was far superior than ohtani
@@07wise imagine bonds was far inferior than Ohtani even with the help of steroid 😂
@koningklootzak7788 I guess you know more than me and majority of all mlb players. I've never heard anyone but today's young fans say ohtani is the best ever. His numbers don't add up and he hasn't done it long enough. Let's check back in 5 to 6 years. Merry Christmas
@koningklootzak7788 I guess you know more than me and majority of all mlb players. I've never heard anyone but today's young fans say ohtani is the best ever. His numbers don't add up and he hasn't done it long enough. Let's check back in 5 to 6 years. Merry Christmas
absolutely laughable that Selig and Ortiz are in the HOF but Bonds isn't
Bad Husband,Citizen & Teammate,but that mother scratcher could mash.
It's a shame he didn't do it naturally and went on the beef roids.
The best and is not even close !
He would have gotten 3,000 hits if MLB Teams didn’t conspire to black ball him….
He was great before he started cheating. He was better IIRC between 36-38 yo than he was 30-32 yo, which without PEDs wouldn't happen.
Ted Williams was better than bonds!
Goat
Bonds cheated, but he was also a 1st ballot HOF player prior to using gear. Would the numbers be what they were without the get, no of course not. That said, Bonds is a Top 3 offensive player All-Time. There’s Ruth, Williams, Bonds & Mays. Those 4 offensively were unmatched.
Barry is one of my favorite players of all time.
I can't say he was the greatest player, because I think there were a couple of guys who could keep up with him with the bat, but his defense was not great. He was not a very good left fielder...
You can certainly make the case he's the best hitter ever...
The argument I don't like is that steroids only give you more power. Na, it can make a fly ball to right a home run, which ups your batting average. Steroids makes jam shots land in shallow left instead of in the 3rd baseman's glove. Steroids give you the capability to catch up to that high heater that might blow passed most guys...
I'm not denying his greatness, but I do think that steroids certainly were a factor. As far as being a pure hitter, even if he was on steroids, he definitely could be the best to ever do it.
I probably gotta give it to Ken Griffey Jr as far as greatest player ever, but Barry bonds was a monster, and nobody can deny that.
The best player to ever live period end of story.
The best juiced player to ever live.
Baseball let him do whatever he wanted course he's going to put up good numbers sad part is he would have made the Hall of Fame without using steroids
video game ish era
It is not the juice. I don't even think he started juicing until after his historic 400-400 season, which coincidentally was the same year McGwire and Sosa stole the limelight. The dude will not be in the HOF because he is a legendary asshole. That said, the guy was the best.
Hitting behind Barry, do you just go on deck with him? How do you time guys when they’re just IBB him every time you get on deck