Tales of What?: Explaining the Tales Names | Gnoggin
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- Опубліковано 28 сер 2024
- What's a Symphonia? a Xillia? ever wondered? Lets find out.
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Next Game: Tales of Berseria
Reason: The main character is a Berserker, one who fights with anger and hatred. The main character hates a guy who is now controlling the world and sacrificing innocent people, the main character lives to kill this man.
literally sounds like the exact plot Berserk
or it could be a story of the Servant Berserker in the Holy Grail War in some unspecified city/world and time.
Nah....
Let's see, the so called controller of the world killed a person close to the main character(sibling) to get where he is. Yeah pretty much
fuckin nailed it
Tempus62 extremely similar, with a little differences
My favorite rpg : Tales of Vesperia
Why : Yuri Lowell.
@Lian Ezekiel Nobody cares. I've seen a comment like this before, and it's creepy. Why would you hack into an account???
ESPECIALLY someone you know. Ew.
@@mrsuperheatran2794 it's a bot. Not a real person. Just report it for spam
You mean YURI LOLLLLLL. God knows they did not pronounce the e in his name 😂
I wasn't ever actively aware of this series. Just bought Sypmhonia and Zestiria.
Wow Symphonia caught me off guard with it's themes.
''Hey kids stay in class while I go check if it's time for your classmate to BECOME A GODDESS AND SAVE US ALL''
I like how it keeps everything on a digestible level. I'm still very early in the game but right now it seems to balance really well it's quirky moments and it's serious ones. Like a good anime.
"I like how it keeps everything on a digestible level"
Welp might as well return your copy of Zestiria now.
Cinno interesting
Rei Bob It IS A Good Anime... Game... Anime THE RPG Game... Yeah...
It'll all make sense in the end, Symphonia is easily the best tales game
I never heard of this game series until I watched this video😟
I dunno if Graces has a more royal cast than Abyss. Abyss has a Duke's son (at one point betrothed to the princess), the princess, an heiress of a 2000 year-old religious lineage, the personal guard for the religious leader (who is a non-playable cast member), a colonel (really more like a general in terms of political and military significance), and the only character who seems to be a lowly servant turns out to actually be a nobleman as well. It's pretty close.
Yes all of the character is high ranking/noble/royal..
I always just assumed the developers had like a giant wheel of fortune type thing with a bunch of randomly generated fantasy names on it...
honestly all you need to do is play one tales game. if like one, you'll be drawn to the rest of them regardless of the title.
+Tech “Nika” Core Well said.
yes
Too true
Well I can't deny that! That was certainly true for me at least after I played my first Tales game.
Which was your first tales title
The music in the beginning made me go back and play through all of Tales of the Abyss...
Goddamn Meaning of Birth is great.
Hold on! Just gotta play this 60 hour game BRB.
Andy Gordon That flute though...
Trust me, Ive played Abyss at least 13 times.
Abyss was my first and fav omfggg
the mr.ending will always stay on my mind
is it luke or asch?
PLEASE BE LUKE
Symphonia is also a greek word. it means "agreement" , "pact" or "deal"
Zack Ace oh that makes more sense when you consider the ending when they promise to take care of the world lol
That does make a lot of sense. The whole story revolves around pacts and agreements.
Zack Ace oh I always though symphonia was something about a symphony’
And abyss can refer to sleep like the first fonic hymns chant “oh melody beckoning towards the abyss”
Also makes sense with Sheena making pacts with all the summon spirit, and how Mithos had to come to an agreement on splitting the world into two.
The protagonists here also form a guild, and guess what they call it.
ULTRA COURAGEOUS SUPER AWESOME BRAVES!
I know it's a stupid name
Rita: *SMACK*
yuri was all in for that name too
Fun Fact: Tales of the Abyss' is basically the opposite of Tales of Destiny.
wait why is that?
is it opposite game play wise?
story wise?
setting wise?
is it cuz tales of the abyss takes place on the ground vs
tales of destiny taking place in the sky?
@@NeostormXLMAX It's about trying to defy destiny. In lore (SPOILER) for Abyss, the entire world heavily follows a predetermined fate in a very large collection of prophecies called The Score. The main protagonists, by the end of the game, destroy the score and the entire world must live on without the reliance of it. Tales of Destiny/2 has the main characters follow their destinies (hence the title). Much simpler and more streamlined Tales story comparatively at first glance.
Tales is so under appreciated.
2:41 Feel the pain of those inferia beings!... Yeah...
10:39 Mind Blown.
13:08 Definitely Symphonia. Honorable mentions to Graces, Vesperia and Abyss. Eternia is probably my favorite of the early tales games though.
Awesome video by the way. It's always refreshing to see a decently sized youtuber doing a video on the Tales series.
Long live Tales
***** Yay~ Kratos has passed his "Judgement" on this video, and it is worthy XD
tagumonman55 XD
Just picture You slamming a thumbs up on the desk, while announcing, in the arte announcing voice, "JUDGEMENT!"
***** I saw you profile picture, i liked your comment without reading it!! Tales of powaa!!
By the number of soundtracks used from it, you can tell he REALLY likes Tales of the Abyss. Such a great game.
Vesperia. Why? Cause the protagonist is not your average teenage warrior. He's a vigilante and knows much about the world unlike some tales protagonists.
Essentially, he's already a pro from the get-go.
My favorite Tales game is Tales of the Abyss. I love the character growth that Luke goes through. He goes from being an unlikable stuck up brat. to being a really likable person. I also love the other characters you meet and even like a lot of the antagonists.
"I love seeing you guys use your heads down there."
I need an adult....
There is a reason why the "F" for "future" is inside the PS3 version of Graces. Because it actually has second, fully fledged Story mode that happens, I think one year, after the main game, which wasn't in the original Wii Version. This represents what happened to everyone in the future, and thus they added the "f" to the title!
NeroDeAngelo it is actually 6 months after the end of the second arc. If you considered the childhood as the first arc.
That arc was the worst part of Graces. At least the combat system is as good as it is...
I won the facebook award on tales of xillia community group. for beating the game within 30 hours of release.
i've played all tales game since eternia which was avaible, I did not care about japanese only i would order it, and play it, even when i half understood anything, i would try my best to google translate my objectives,
All my gaming friends says that they have all played final fantasy, while i've actually only played 1 version. I love tales and i'll 4-ever always play all of them.
Tales of eternia was my favourite game btw. as you could combine elements and learn new moves this way so the customization was the best thing ever.
And you have The most badass and best female character in RPG.
Farah...
Feeling the love for Tales of Vesperia.
Basically just said, "It's Latin for evening star. It's the brightest star in the sky. They named their guild, Vesperia. Moving on~"
Meanwhile you go in depth into their hidden meanings of the majority of other games and drawing the viewer in, mentioning the double meaning and how the names relate to the plot and the characters as a whole. "It's a star and their guild name," doesn't really show that much thought really went into ToV's interpretation. They get a little over 10 seconds of screen time in a nearly 14 minute video. To say I was disappointed is an understatement.
Phiani03 That can be said of more than just Vesperia... no need to get so butthurt. He only went in depth on the more confusing ones, and Vesperia is kinda obvious.
Phiani03 He didn't even get the guild name right. It's Brave Vesperia. Not just Vesperia
Tales of the Abyss is my favorite because... I connect with Luke on a personal level...
Symphonia, but DoaNW not the original
300-I.Q. Prower I'm currently playing through ToSDotNW (Worst acronym), and I don't like the combat as much as TotA (Better acronym). Emil's normal attacks a too clunky and robotic, and a LOT of his artes are too floatey and send him sailing across the arena, but I do like Swallow Fury and Converging Fury. Also the monster pacts seem like a last ditch effort when new protagonists couldn't be thought up. I still love the game so far!
Too many i.a.'s......
+Braden Hamilton (Kirbyterasu) DotNW is not the best game, and I will admit that, which is hard, considering ToS is one of my favorite in the franchise. Thing is, with nine protagonists already existing, eight of which are available at some points, and two new ones, it does make sense. People do like being able to raise and evolve characters, as well, something you cant do with a human or humanoid character. It makes sense. I didn't like the way you travel through the world, however. It made grinding more difficult, and the game felt so short compared to many other titles.
Nikki Rising Yeah, I know. I haven't played ToS, but with what I've heard, DotNW would seem to disappoint. As for the world map, having played TotA beforehand, and ToV after the fact, it just seems wrong to be playing basically a board game.
Racism, Classism, "Ism-ism" lol
Nepotism lol
Euphemism
Schism 😂
I wish he was on Game Theory but everyone in Game Theory has their represenative roles. MatPat is the most popular and takes up theories and such. Gaijin covers stuff about ethnicity and culture, explaining why something was taken so offensively, or what certain culture references in games are. Drake does an analysis of Smash characters, their abilities and moves, and maps. He also did crossover, and Smash Analysis only has a year and a half of material available to cover until new characters are introduced. He wouldn't fit in because he would be in MatPat's role. I mean sure, a collaboration between the two would be awesome every now and then but I'm sure Gnoggin wants to run his own channel and do theories on his own.
This pretty much sums everything up well. People say I should join them all the time, especially more recently for some reason.
Gnoggin I'd support a collab, but PLEASE keep separate!
Also, Tetris has a plot. =P
If Gnoggin were to join GT, he would still have videos of Gnoggin debunking his own team... :3
My favourite JRPG is probably Dragon Quest IX : Sentinels Of The Starry Skies for the Nintendo DS. I like it due to the game's alchemy system ,as well as the characters , the sheer size of the world , and (though you have to grind a lot to make it through them) the boss battles.
***** It's always nice to watch a theory, and then watch a theory disproving it. It brings interesting arguments to think about. You are bound to make a choice eventually though.
Wait, then Xilia 2 is... XIII-2!!
GOD DAMMIT FINAL FANTASY!!
You mean X-2
+Celio Hogane Like Final Fantasy XIII-2? o^o
+Celio Hogane Yeah. They better not make a game called Millia Returns.
Milla. I'm sorry?
you like Tales?
WHY CANT I SUBSCRIBE TWICE
You can, just unsubscribe once or make another acount
Miguel Cloud will do
XD
I wish I had time to watch another youtuber I'd absolutely subscribe to him since he likes the Tales series too.
Perhaps Tales of Graces was my fav, it was so precious :)
+Asher Edmondson Graces F is a bit too cheesy (hooray friendship!) for my liking. Tales of Eternia is still the best for me.
mtfqyns I don't hate the friendship scenario if it's done touchingly enough. If it's all sparkles and rainbows without some tragedy, then yeah it's just lame. But there's enough betrayal and tragedy to balance out the happiness for me.
+mtfqyns Agree. I loved Tales of the Abyss the most.
YAS i love graces as well (mainly because of the fact that it was the first tales game i played) but i really like how you have a feeling of pitty for the true antagonist and whilst it is cheesy i honestly don't mind because as you said it does do some things which hit quite hard (especially the end of the childhood arc that cut scene made me sit there for a few solid minutes just staring at the screen)
i also just made the connection with the fact that in the end you forgive the antagonist... you grant them grace
Well, my Tales Game is, Tales of the Abyss! And like, I personally saw it as a game about Growth. Luke, a once snobby prince who expects everyone to bow to his every whim, grows to be a strong leader, and he never stops growing. Anise, who always ended up taking orders from someone else, let it be the religion of her country or a certain Grand Maestro, when it costs the life of her best friend, she learns to follow her heart instead of what she's ordered to. Guy, a rather fancy man and best friend to Luke, but because of a traumatic experience as a child grew to fear women ((I won't say why cause of Spoilers >wo)), but he eventually learns to get over his fear as he travels with his female companions ((those being Tear, Natalia, and Anise!)). Even when all seemed hopeless for everyone, they were able to find the courage to continue on, knowing that even if the chance is slim, they can always rise back up from the Abyss. And they grow and learn from each and every moment and situation they're in.
IA at the end is what makes the titles of the Tales Games better. Pacman agrees.
lol well since I seem to have a chance to ramble about Tales because there's almost no one to talk to about it here, I'll definitely take it. Current faves: Zestiria and Xillia 2 (this is gonna be SO LONG. Oh God, I'm so sorry).
I've heard a lot of people don't like Xillia 1 and 2, and okay, whatever I don't really care much about Xillia 1, but Xillia 2 managed to tear my heart out, throw it down the floor and stomp it into a million pieces, then set the pieces on fire as if it's not satisfied with what it did (complete with evil laughter in the background). I love Ludger and Julius and their relationship a whole lot, and Rollo is just an added bonus (would you believe me if I said I picked up Xillia 2 because of Rollo? I wouldn't too if I forgot I really did that). I love the crazy combos you can do in battle, and the mystic artes are really cool. Maybe the Chromatus kinda made Ludger too op at times but hey who doesn't like being op sometimes? Honestly, I'm not one so much into gameplay (though I like battle systems like Tales' LMBS and real time way more than turn based battle systems, oops), what manages to get me hooked on games is the plot, and Xillia 2 really got me there. I love how dark it is and how it actually got me thinking about the importance of family and the morals that get challenged when it comes to it (and I adore the Bad Ending, fight me). I know, it might sound cheesy, but it's not. It's really really dark and awful and way too much for Ludger and Elle, and chapters 12 and 15 and the True Ending got me crying like an idiot. I don't care if the maps were "recycled" and "too lazy," for fuck's sake the game took place literally just a year after the first one; there won't be that much changes you know?
As for Zestiria, oh boy, at one point I got influenced by the number of negative feedback about the game, but when I sat down and actually got through it? Along with the number of analyses about the characters, especially Sorey and Mikleo, it immediately became my favourite. It's true that Zestiria is lacking in a lot of things gameplay-wise (fuck the camera), hopefully the EN and EU adaptation would fix those, but it made up with the characters, I believe. Despite Bamco saying that Zestiria is supposed to return to its roots, it actually managed to break a lot of character tropes established not just in the series, but in the whole JRPG business. Sorey and Mikleo, for example, though I'm not gonna say a lot about it :))) As for the battle system, I love the whole "merge with ur seraph and butcher all of them lmao" idea. It kinda broke the game though, so have fun with that. Though honestly, what got me smitten to Zestiria are the characters and their relationship with one another, especially Sorey and Mikleo's "friendship."
TLDR: Xillia 2 destroyed me and I loved it, Zestiria is okay but the characters destroyed me and I loved it. Also not mentioned: Ludger Will Kresnik did nothing wrong.
My favorite Tales of is Xillia 2. I liked making choices and having more than one ending. Symphonia was my favorite before it. I like being able to make choices when talking to other characters.
My favorite thing about Tales of games is the (current and improving) fighting system. I also really the references to the other Tales games.
Then you must've liked the Sealed weapons.
As of me, besides adoring the fact each of them refer to one game, I also think they had some of the best weapon designs ever in the series. I just couldn't quite understand why Sealed Abyss Beta wasn't called Sealed Xillia 2... it would make a great name of a weapon, perhaps for Ludger.
I really liked the sealed weapons. I also like the 'quests' posted by previous characters (and I liked seeing the Mint model).
Darling Grim Me too, they were awesome. Perhaps my favvourite is Hideo Baba's request :')
Mint model? I'm not sure I remember that.
Mint has a quest and they made a 3d model for her. I like seeing newer models of older characters. :'D
Oh right, I just made that quest (today I beated Xillia 2 for the first time)
I was SO thrilled to see Mint just standing there in Sharilton, it made my day. Makes me sort of wish all those older games got remakes... and also makes me wonder, once again, how the heck those people end up in different worlds than their own :')
It'd be epic of each cameo character quest for the sealed weapons were like that :D
Simply put, Tales of the Abyss is my favorite. It introduced Free running into the series and is the one I've beaten so many times, I can get everything in the Grade shop and still have a bunch of grade remaining =D
The "F" in Tales of Graces F meant future because the PS3 version contained an extra arc that didn't exist in past versions of the game. This being "Lineage and Legacies" or "The Future Arc", in which you join the characters a few months after the main portion of the game.
Just figured I'd put this info out there in case anyone was curious.
I recently beat Tales of Symphonia ( great game with great plot) and now I wished I had at least a list on what systems the other games are on.
Sam Marshall Tales of Phantasia - Gameboy Advanced (remake)
Tales of Destiny - Playstation (1)
Tales of Eternia - PSP (and there is a playstation version called Tales of Destiny 2)
Tales of symphonia you know
Tales of Rebirth was only released in japan on the playstation 2 and psp
Tales of Legendia - Playstation 2
Tales of the Abyss - 3DS (remake), and Playstation 2 (original)
Tales of Innocence was also released only in japan for the DS and the PSVITA
Tales of Hearts r - PSVITA
Tales of Graces f - PS3
Tales of Xillia - PS3
Tales of Xillia 2 - PS3
Tales of Zestiria - PS3 & PS4 (releases in the USA on october 20th)
Tales of Berseria - Unreleased
trotz50 you forgot Vesperia on the 360
Oops thank you, I knew I was forgetting one!
trotz50 Tales of Zestiria is also releasing on PC
+trotz50 Lemme guess... _Tales of Berseria_ takes its name from the word "Berserk" and replaces the "k" with an "ia". It's about everyone going "berserk" over Namco's insatiable appetite for shoehorning "ia" on the ends of titles for all their _Tales_ games! ;D
> abyss, xillia and xillia 2 are best tales games and symphonia 2 isn't as bad as everyone loves to say *runs away*
ZeroTheHeartlessKing (pokes head round corner) I agree! (also runs away)
ZeroTheHeartlessKing Same here! I actually really liked Symphonia 2 as well. Not the best, but definitely a solid entry that I have gone back and replayed
ZeroTheHeartlessKing I know, DotNW was for a low-ish budget direct sequel on of the better tales games literally have both the symphonia games and prefer the second to the first for combat and story line.
The first games explanation in the video was a bit lack luster when compaired to the true meaning. yeah the end result is to bring the worlds together but Gnoggin missed some key points to the explanation of the title. for example 4000years before the start of the game the worlds were one that were split in two to prevent them from dieing before the time to reunite them arrived.
During the 2 year skip between the end of the first game and the beginning of the second nature itself started to wreak havoc upon the world thus causing each faction tethe'allans and sylvaranti to blame each other for the problems of the world further caused by the gap in civilization from before the world was restored. In order to do so , Marta Lualdi, Emil Castsgnier, and Tenebrea the Centurion of Darkness search for the other sleeping Centurions with the end goal of awakening Ratatosk the Summon Spirit of the Giant Kharlan Tree and Guardian of the Ginungagap, the door the the Demonic realm, Niflhiem(or as some may know, awaken his full power). The romance in the game was very minor compared to everything else but still pivotal in the character development for Emil and Marta.
As for story line, DofNW reveals some things that were left unknown from the first game, such as where the Derris Emblem came from, who the summon spirit of the giant tree of old was, why were the summon spirits placed at the locations that they were found, etc. As you can see I'm more apt to explain the tales of symphonia games than Gnoggin is apparently, based solely on his explanation of the first games title and completely forgetting the second. Not saying he's a bad youtuber but there will always be someone better than you at something, and that the titles of the more recent tales games are deeper than he described. Also all the Tales games are applicable to the Multi-verse Theory.
ZeroTheHeartlessKing I started with Tales of Vesperia and LOVED it to death... Symphonia 2 was a horrible let down to me! But it was so low budget, I can't help but judge it differently for that.
turtlecheese8 i know what you mean by it^^ i wasn't a fan of vesperia myself, it bored me to tears XD altho i should give it another chance
I actually didn't know a lot of these names even had meaning. I thought they were just random gibberish...
As for my fave, Symphonia is an absolute masterpiece!
Love the Trifecta of the Best Tales games: Symphonia, Abyss and Vesperia.
Think about it twice when you dismiss "Legendia".
A legend is a specific type of tale, that deserves to be read, usualy, based upon real events but rewritten to include fictionnal events and fantasy.
Good, you chose the right music to start with. Tales of the Abyss = best soundtrack.
Hah... That is funny cause I actually got the Tales games JUST from the boxart... lol (but I barely play them haha, never completed one yet)
Also, favorite JRPG is Zeenohblaydes Chromicles (Yes I meant to spell that wrong). Why? Cause of its large ass world, "I'M REALLY FEELING IT" and "IT'S SHULK TIME", Metalface is just awesome, you're walking on 2 huge ass titans, and its pretty complex story.
Before that, it had an amazing fanbases.
BOCKSLOSH!!!!!1!1111ONE!!!!!!!1!1
Luis Isidro corruption comes to every fan base. Where as I like the shulk quotes , I leave them where they are fitting ,in smash bros. The xeno games are great games.
I completely agree with you Xenoblade Chronicles is my favorite game of all time
What I like about that game is the MMOesque type of gameplay... But it improves it by a 100000%. Also it's singleplayer only, so no DRM bull**** here.
Namco HQ has a giant poster of Lelouch?
As they should
Because All Hail Lelouch.
I think it's because they created code geass lost colors for ps2
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I'd be more worried abou the Mario, personally ;-)
OMG THIS GUY PLAYS THE SERIES THIS MAKES ME REALLY HAPPY FOR SOME REASON :D
Well congratulations. There were many.
tales of phantasia is still my favorite of the series. i just loved it. Abyss and Xillia are a close second though
My favorite Tales game is Abyss. So amazing. I just finished my third playthrough a couple of days ago, and right now I'm working on getting all the Planetary Fonic Arte catalysts. It's actually one of my favorite games of all time.
TALES OF SYMPHONIA. IS THE BEST ONE
Abraham Guajardo pretty much
Abraham Guajardo and Abyss
Abraham Guajardo what about vesperia?
Side note. I only have an Xbox
Y'all got Rose colored glasses man lol. That game sucks
Legendia is definitely the greatest game of the bunch by far. I mean, I sank 200++ hours into Destiny, and I'm totally loving Zestiria.. but damn, Legendia was frikkin awesome.
Savin Wangtal
^this man knows what he is talking about.
You should get Phantasia btw.
My favorite tales game is Abyss, mainly due to the beautiful story, the characters, and battle mechanics.
Technically they name the guild Brave Vesperia, not just Vesperia.
You’re literally the stereotype mansplaining nerd omg
@@garethcousins5008 you're literally replying to a 4 year old comment. But I am a nerd, you have the right of that.
@@Bear_of_light26this thread 😭
i like the 2nd symphonia game because of the love
I still consider Dawn of the New World to have the best romance of any video game ever. Or at least of the ones I've played.
Dawn of the new world has the most standard animu love story ever ...and the world feels so small when compared to the original. The whole game was just a big fanservice fest for fans ......and that reflects the quality
Fynn To each her/his own, but I much take umbrage with the romance being called "standard." To many video games and anime has the infuriating "cannot spit it out"scenario, preventing the romance from ever really going anywhere.
In DotNW, it start right off the bat with one character infatuated with the other, but before a love story becomes more of a running gag, character development sets in. The romance is absolutely vital to Emil and Marta's development, two flawed characters helping each other to grown and bring out the best in themselves. The pacing is fantastic as well, even considering the game being relatively short. I also love how it deconstructs and turns the "Manic Pixie Dream Girl" trope on its head.
The game's small budget shows, but its heart was in the right place. The developers did the best they could with the new cast, their development, interaction with each other and characterization, and the lore in Dawn and how it fits with the overall Aselia timeline. The localizers also put a lot of care into the game, with an excellent script, especially strong in its humor, and great voice-acting, even barring the actors changes for the returning characters. They put real effort into Dawn of the New World, and that show.
StrawberryEggs
For me the two just had no chemistry with each other. At some point it felt like going through checkboxes of generic romance encounters/Events.
The comedy was what pulled me trough the game, Tennebrae was awesome.
The story/setting of the game overall was interesting and the continuity was nice.
After the original I did want to see how the new world evolves and what problems turn up between the people of sylverant and Thethe'alla. Especially the conflict between humans and halve elfs.
Richter was an awesome character but they shouldn't have set him up like Kratos 2.0.
The combat doesn't flow as well as it did in the original. The combat is slower and unresponsive.
Taming monsters sounds nice in theory but it didn't work well in the game.
They could have introduced a completely new party of characters with good backstorys/sidequests instead we get tamed monsters and the old cast of the first game dropping in every now and then.
Those meetings weren't bad I want to add tough.
Reducing the overworld to a generic map with fast travel was boring and destroyed the exploration that was so prominent in the first game.
In conclusion a okay story but bad gameplay
and cheap game design ruined it for me.
I was hyped for that game and it just did not live up to it for me. Everyone that I know who played the HD remakes feels the same way, even if they started with dotnw. Aafter playing ToS the original there is no doubt which game is better.
I spent hundred of hours playing through ToS multiple times, looking for secrets and Eastereggs and Sidequests.
I played DOTNW for the story and then forgot about it.
While I agree after reading your comment that the devs and the localization did the best they could it doesn't excuse a mediocre to bad game.
After all Symphonia and Tales of the Abyss are the games that introduced the Tales Series to a lot of people and those people (like me or you idk) still buy those games when they get released and with relative success I might add.
Symphonia sold relatively well so why did the game get such a small budget in the first place.
WHAT WERE THEY THINKING!
Just have to agree to disagree on Emil and Marta. I'll certainly agree the original ToS is better than DotWN, but I also think the sequel is still a great game in its own right.
Tales of Phantasia and tales of the Abyss, that's the only ones I played, because I don't have Playstation or PSP.
I just have, beginning with Gameboy, just the Handhelds from Nintendo
Abyss is best.
Amen
Vesperia
Phantasia
Wouldn't Inferia come from 'infernal' instead of 'inferior'?
CaptainGarforce that’s what I thought, like infernal beings or hellish beings in contrast to the celestial beings like gods
Inferno, Inferior and Infernal, the three come from the word "infernum" that means under.
as in a reference to hell where celestia is heaven
@@timersky98 Or just Earth which is also under heaven.
Inferia come from "inferior", like under...Inferia come from latin, like someone say..I don't think is a reference from hell...Inferia itself is more like Earth and not an hellish place with demons...sorry if i missed some verbs or sentence, Eng isn't my first language
*TALES OF VESPERIA*
Best of the bunch, put about 120h into this gem.
My fav tales game is Tales of the abyss, all da way
Slick Serpent Abyss and Symphonia are my favorites.
I’ve played Abyss, Vesperia, and Berseria and they’re all great but Berseria takes my heart for being the most tragic one yet... next one I’m trying is Zestiria
Which one is the closest to Abyss? I loved that game but couldn't get into symphonia cause LLoyd seems like such a Gary Stu.
Same!
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My favorite Tales game is Symphonia. Reason? Probably because it was my first ever RPG game. I just love how deep every single character is, how far the lore goes, how the fighting system works and pretty much every little aspect of this game. Sure, you can say it graphically didn't age very well, but it's still far more visually tolerable than Final Fantasy VII if you ask me. However, it is true that dungeons get repetitive with each new playthrough and thus make this game kind of unbearable after 300 hours(I'm speaking of experience). Also, the sequel was so bad I wish it never existed.
You know what Tales game NEEDS a sequel? Vesperia. With an ending like this one, there is some incredible potential for more. Namco should remake the PS3 port and sell it in a bundle with a sequel. A good sequel this time. A sequel where Duke is playable. That would be nice.
Symphonia was my first RPG as well, but my favorite Tales game is Abyss. A lot of the Symphonia cast sorta leaves after their story arc, at least in the sense that they have nothing to do.
Vesperia, which is my second favorite, is getting remade on the Switch.
These game series are legendia! I'll keep playing them for eternia.
Tales of the Abyss is my favorite. Followed closely by Vesperia and Hearts R. I've also beaten Graces F, Xillia, Xillia 2, and Zestiria. I've also played Legendia and Symphonia. One day I'll try to go back and beat Symphonia it just didn't age well for me and I missed it on GameCube. My first tales was Abyss.
tales of the abyss is my favorite one. to be honest though the entire series is just greatness.
Its true, the next Tales game ends with IA. Namco has a fetish
Sjono Tales of Berseria HYPE !!
***** Inb4 it's based on the word Berserk.
Not to nit pick, but Xillia is pronounced Eh-Ku-Shi (freely translated into the Z sound)-illia or at least that's how it's written in Katakana. I always called it Xillia like Zillia, and I thought it was odd whenever I heard people pronounce it as eksillia, but that's the official way it's written. You can debate whether the pronunciation should be carried over, but I guess for me it's word of god and source material over adaptation. エ = E, ク = Ku, シ = Shi, リ = Ri, ア = A
Katakana is used in Japanese largely for pronouncing foreign words so エクシリア is based on the word that the katakana is trying to sound out in Japanese.
Exactly. So the point would be that if they were trying to make the game's name Xillia as in Zillia, they would have written it was ジリア or Zi-Ri-A. The エクシ part of Xillia is meant to emphasize the phonetic pronunciation of the letter X as opposed to when the letter X is used in a word which would be like E-Ku-Su.
Flashburn 117 He got it right the word in Japanese is pronounced ekushiria is because they don't have the Z sound in their languadge if we go by that logic the name would be shiria its Xillia with a Z baba san confirmed it XD
As far as I know it's "Exillia", so not "Zillia" or "Ekushillia".
NiiveaYoki Exillia = Ekushillia
No doubt Xillia 2 is the goddamn darkest game in the series. It WILL pull on your heart strings.
Nwm, Berseria just became quite the tough contestant.
Xillia 2 is pretty dark, but it doesn't... Dwell on it as much as Berseria or Abyss do.
I'm not saying it ISN'T. But the darkness of what happens in Xillia 2 doesn't... Really affect the tone as much as it should.
I replayed the game recently, I think it does affect the tone quite the bloody lot...-
I love lost odyssey also.
My gavorite is Tales of Symphonia, my husband (back then closest friend) showed it to me after a friend commented that we reminded her of Zelos and Sheena. I didn't know who they were and then he showed me the game. It was my first Tales game, and I did relate to he characters in one way or another. Holds a special place in my heart.
LOL I freaking love when he started talking about Zestiria and connected the name. The face was priceless!
TALES OF SYMPHONIA!!!! Today and forever!!!! Is a beautiful masterpiece!!!!
Nice video btw
This is my favorite JRPG series I love everyone of them
Tales of the abyss and Xillia are some of the best JRPGs I've played (Just ended Xillia 2)
My favorite Tales of Game is Tales of the Abyss followed by Tales of Symphonia and Tales of Graces, mostly for the character relationships.
Tales of the Abyss. There is something great within these characters
I never played Eternia, but i think Inferia could come from "Inferno" instead, meaning hell, as a contrast to heaven being Celestia. But i could be wrong :p
As another commenter pointed out, "inferior" and "inferno" are derived from the same Latin root. The original word was "infernus", which means "below, beneath".
I still say Ex-illia. Sounds better to me. Also the F for Future refers to the post game Future Arc added to the PS3 remake.
LightDragonTV interesting
The F for Future was added to graces F because of the future campaign, that is exclusive to graces f. It details the future of the graces plot (well duh)
Whatever cover of the Abyss opening playing in the beginning is great.
I wonder of Lockstin and Gnoggin will talk about one of the Tales games in detail in the future. I kinda miss those days.
My favorite Tales game is easily said the only one I've played so far, which is also the first I played: Tales of Sypmhonia: Dawn of the New World :D
+Kyoshi Mooncrystal if u have a PS3, get tales of Symphonia Chronicles. Or you can wait for the Steam version next month
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Sadly, I can't do either...
Kyoshi Mooncrystal well, you could find the orginal GC version. also, why did u play the sequel before the original
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I wasn't born at the right time to play the original and I didn't even know there was a prequel to the game when I bought it XD
Kyoshi Mooncrystal ah. Well playing the sequel first is not THAT bad. Only a couple are spoiled, such as characters and the aftermath of the ending
Tales Of Symphonia, Played it like 10 times. lol And Now playing Tales of Zestiria.
I have sort of a love/hate relationship with the Tales series. I've only played three games: Symphonia, Legendia, and Dawn of the New World, and I loved them for the unique characters, stories, and combat, but at the same time hated them because with each one I always got stuck on a really hard boss and never beat them because I just gave up
+Eduardo Ubaldo I finished Symphonia not too long ago, should I finish 'Dawn of the New World'? I got really bored for the first 2 hours but I don't know if I should finish it or not.
+Eduardo Ubaldo Funny. I HATE Symphonia. Was easoly one of the most boring in the whole series. Only reason I finished it was to play Dawn of the New World. And I love that one lol
Eduardo Ubaldo Smyphonia has 3 other sequels Phantasia,Phantasia Nakiri Dungeon and Tales of the World Summoner's lineage.
Pretty new to the series myself. So far I’ve only played Zestiria, in refards to games confirmed as main titles.
Haven’t played any spin-offs.
And I’m honestly not sure where Tales of the Rays stands in terms of main or spin-off, but I’ve played that a bit too.
Tales of Link and Tales of Rays are more of crossover games that are there to have fun with the characters, and either introduce newer fans to a LOT of older characters, or to let older fans collect ALL the favorites.
I haven't played Rays, but I like the story in Tales of Link.
Also, I liked Dawn of the New World. It wasn't perfect, especially since it had a VERY tough act to follow, but it was pretty good, with some likable characters, and returning favorites.
I've played through Graces f multiple times and I'm in the middle of playing Symphonia for the first time
My favorite game is tales of Zestiria.
And thank you explaining the games.
2:33 Inferia, as in Infernal. Such as hell or the underworld. It looked like somebody didn't use their . . . noggin.
IcyHaze02 Apparently, “inferior” and “inferno” come from the Latin “infernus,” implying something underneath something else.
Am I the only one who thinks that all Tales games were frikkin awesome and lovable in their own unique way? >_>
no i agree :)
My fave has to be Abyss, it just was a fun game to play thru, the story made sense, and its not so much about beating the big bad evil dude more than it is about differing views and wanting to break away from the old ways and embrace a new one. Zestria might be my 2nd fave, I haven't played it yet but the combat looks nice. Thats one thing with the tales series, the combat is always fun and they always do something new to spice it up, unlike some other long running series that pretty much reuses the story from the 4th game over and over again (Final fantasy)
finally, a guy who understands the tales games as much as me, u got urself a sub
Here's my Tales story. Had a spare $40 on a give card, saw ToX for sale and decided to grab it for a quick play. Absolutely LOVED it but found the combat pretty repetitive from time to time. Picked up ToX2 on Release day and BY GRIMA the stars aligned and I bloody love this game, so much in fact I am cosplaying Victor in a week XD
Does Kingdom Hearts count as a JRPG? If so, it's my favorite because of it's marvelous storyline and gameplay.
No it's an action adventure game with minor RPG elements but it's still a great game
***** ***** I do consider it an RPG though. I mean, It does have all the needed elements.
It's as much an RPG as Symphony of the Night or Zelda 2.
Jonathan BarSela I have no idea what Symphony of the night is, but I do know Zelda II IS an RPG, soooo ya.
***** Yep. Well, Zelda 2 is a little more in-depth because you choose how to upgrade Link's stats, but it doesn't incorporate RPG elements too heavily, unlike games like Deus Ex and Mass Effect, not to mention true American D&D based games like KotOR.
Xillia was my favorite.
I haven't finished any "Tales" game yet. My sister loves them though... so I plan on playing Tales of Symphinia soon.
I'm not big on JRPG's, the farthest I've gotten is the 3rd disk on FF8, back in high school. I start a lot of them but never see them through to the end.
One thing you could do if you don't like the game play style is try to find a cutscene movie of the story or watch a walk through of it
heartfullbutterfly I'd rather play them, but thanks.
no problem. I know that games are a lot more fun to play yourself, but that is an option if you absolutely hate the play style. If you are curious, Xillia (in my opinion) has one of the best fighting styles out of the tales games
Cesar Perez
Do yourself a favor and play Abyss instead. It's far better.
just dont give up ^^
Damn that logic. The cover art of these games is part of why I love buying them. They're actual characters, not grimacing, anonymous soldiers like most western games.
I've only played Symphonia, Symphonia 2, and Zesteria and I like Zesteria the most. It focuses on fewer protagonists, and by doing so it is able to flesh out more from them and the world.
I would have to say that Tales of the Abyss is my favorite. I've played many man RPGs in my 29 years, both Western and Japanese, and I feel that none of them come close to the amount of legitimate character development you experience in Abyss. To go from hating the main character to respecting him to loving him takes a vast amount of quality story-telling to garner that kind of investment. And the themes of the game itself were gripping, intense, and often very relate-able. Best Tales game overall and one of my favorite games of all time :D
I'm happy with my copy of Vesperia. I should get the Abyss again to give it a better shot.
The Abyss is the only game I couldn't get through because the main character is incredibly annoying. Everyone says its one of the best though. I need to give it another shot too.
The main character goes through some changes as you progress. No spoilers though.
you should get it on the 3ds MOBILEEEEEEEEEEEE
yeah
(Spoilers down below)
The main character Luke Fon Fabre gets manipulated by Van the villian of the story to use his power it destroys the place that they were in and kills alot of people you get to see some people die the other main cast gets mad at Luke for being stupid the main character fight Asch the true luke fon fabre (the one in the story you play as is a replica of asch ) you go with asch and do some stuff but luke can see everything that asch is doing cause their tied together somehow luke wakes up and goes out into the garden where tear is (basically the heroine of the story) luke promises to change he cuts his hair and changes thought the story #CHARACTERDEVELOPMENT sorry if i got something wrong i havent seen the scenes in a year
yeah the main character goes through a change of personality from
being a spoiled sheltered prince -> the brat who sinked an entire city and blames his master -> getting scorned by his allies and losing their trust -> depressed but then with the female lead's push decides to face the consequences and atone -> goes through the final atonement and became a hero
the female lead (Tear Grants) is the true star of this game. Her relationship with the main is what makes the story amazing :D
This is like my whole childhood explained xD ...or so
I have to say Symphonia. After clocking so much time on it from just playing it over and over again. It was my favorite game going through middle school.
I loved tales of the abyss. played through that one multiple times. I just picked up zestiria and I am enjoying this one immensely too. probably my favorite intro as well.
But... I LIKE turn-based RPG's. Some of the classic turn-based RPG's, yes, they were a bit slow largely due to the technology at the time. Turn-based RPG's nowadays are kinda nonexistent and its disappointing because they're amazing. Turn-based RPG's do take a step back and give you more breathing room, but that's a good thing. I don't really like button-mashing that much.
Tales is one of the very FEW action-based RPG franchises I actually like. The main problems I have with action-based RPG's is they revolve more around button-mashing than actual strategy, and strategic planning is the main reason I love the genre.
Favorite JRPG? Lufia II: Curse of the Sinistrals. No random battles, amazing puzzles, AMAZING battle system, its all just epic. I might conisder suggesting Golden Sun: The Lost Age if Nintendo would just add it to the eShop. Even then Lufia II probably would still top it since the one problem with classic turn-based RPG's Golden Sun fails at is random battles.
JaidynReiman I love turn-based ones too. I'm having trouble getting used to the new Final Fantasy's. Try something like Tales of The Abyss on hard mode though. I usually find myself hitting the start button which allows me to input commands to tell my teammates which Arte to use which gives a feeling of strategy. At least to me anyways. I'll have Anise set up a FOF, have Natalia cast Revive on Luke, then Tear buff the party, have Luke use the FOF, use Overlimit to keep the enemy stunned, use his Mystic Arte and absolutely wreck my foes with a stun lock. The best part is the enemy won't straight up die so now you have to focus on keeping your team alive as you need to set it all up again.
Bryan Vallejo
I haven't tried any of the Tales games on Hard mode, really. I think the one game I did that for was Xillia, and the only reason I replayed through that one was because I wanted to make sure I played both Milla and Jude's stories. And I got through Xillia hard quite easy, though I'm pretty sure there were higher difficulties than that.
JaidynReiman I only play on very hard since unknown, which is the hardest, is impossible for me. I get owned when I'm nearly winning. I'd recommend hard mode just for getting the hang of it. I straight up died when I went straight to very hard. Since it sounds like you're quite good though, you can probably do it. And if you're brave, go for unknown.
Bryan Vallejo
I don't have time to do it a lot lol. I probably won't ever do Unknown. I might do Hard/Very Hard on some games when I replay them again later to get all the bonus content.
JaidynReiman Well best of luck! The Tales of games are pretty good. I just wish I had a PS3/PS4 and that others got translated to English.
this will explain why almost every Tales games end with an -ia why Pac-Man, why?!?!?!
maybe based on region with an -ia
india indonesia, etc
Just a marketing tactic employed because Symphonia sold well
Tales of Symphonia was just downright awesome. Abyss was great too, then I didn't really like what they made afterwards. I guess Vesperia was okay, but it didn't convey the same "don'tcrydon'tcrydon'tcryWHATINEVERSUSPECTEDTHATokaydon'tcry" feeling to them. IIII don't know. Never wondered about the names though, interesting point !
The First Strike made up for it though!
Tales of Vesperia's my favorite. And yeah, your idea about what Vesperia is about is spot on, but I've always liked MY idea.
Vesperia: The brightest star in the night sky of that world. Or you could say "the brightest light in the darkness". Something that shines brightly, no matter what tries to swallow it's light. Hope in the face of despair, when you feel there's no way out.
A little late I know, but my favourite is Tales of Vesperia. Yuri Lowell is just my number one protaginist of all times and it was really refreshing to play as somebody, who is ready to dirty his hands to rid the world of evil.
Tales of Symphonia is a close second though and basically all of my childhood.
I like the cover art =P Probably because I'm an otaku cx
My fave= tales of zestiria. Why? All games use tropes n clichés (some unbearably overused even which defines clichés of course) but u see audience won't really understand anything completely original (if there is such a thing) since the very concept of game hinges on that. I mean games are played according to rules n expectations, n gamers have to make choices, guesses (intelligent or otherwise) to survive. So u put in something so alien to convention n audience will complain. Like in tales of zestiria games complained about slow story, clichés yaoi vibes etc... but they like a so-cliché plot where MC gets cozy with the princess (what super Mario bros ancient history??? wtf) and while they welcome genocide and right, all the other isms that deal with death gore cannibalism (???) they start complaining when there's homoeroticism, yaoi, n BL. Some games said gays in games will never happen even 20 yrs from now becoz straight guys will NEVER play gay characters--wtf THAT sounds like ancient history evenb Shakespeare's gay n he was able to make a name for himself with his gayish sonnets... So I think until games evolve with the gamers, we'd be in the dark ages far longer than sorey slept to "purify" the world. Thank god there's mikleo... uhh why? becoz he's the only character in a game who manages to escape easy categorizations... so I think if only for him I give tales of zestiria a thumbs up. Guts and Griffith in berserk I ship but then I was shot down in 3 seconds n my comments downgraded... Ufotable apologist anime version of tales of zestiria is a sorry testimony of how stories are re-done to please angry fans who pay to see their conventional expectations confirmed... so now u get MC + princess. Also I dnt get why Judeo-Christian refernces being bashed when used but norse slavicn greek are so overOVERused in marvel, dc, RPGs n no one gives a damn about it...
I guess when someone in the commnets below say game theory fanbase is autistic, he's insulting not the fanbase but autistic people out there. They're a lot better human beings than we are who overrate our wisdom and claim we r original but are definitely not.
Even though I like him Mikleo is, with Sorey the literal definition of a country bumpkin
"Another japanese RPG, turn-based, slow, boring about love and compassion and friendship, yaddayadda"
Err... Sorry but what?
Well anyway, good video, I was actually pretty curious about the Tales series and their titles, you explained it all nicely. Even made me more interested in buying Tales of Symphonia on Steam.
I've only played Phantasia, Abyss, and Hearts. of the 3 Abyss is probably my favorite, but I have yet to finish Hearts and it's already a close second for me.
tales of the abyss of by far both my favorites tales game and game of all time