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Reading, that TLoU Part 2 is Game Of The Year 2020 made me happy!! This game had to face so much hate after its release but in the end it received recognition. Reminds me of the following: it was Ellie and Dina in Seattle (Day 1?). They found this letter (written by a priest?). I can not make a direct quote but it was like this: if you have to face despair, a turning point will occur which leads to an even much better outcome / change for the better.
Going into this game for the first time, I was terrified being fully aware of the backlash and hate, then playing it for the first time, wondering if I was playing the same game, I thought I was the only one who liked the game for days (if not maybe weeks) to finding out there are others who feel the same, now, it won GOTY Hell of an experience in more than one way
The game kinda destroyed me BUT even after 6 months i still search for Tlou2 Reviews, Hiddenstories etc 😄 Never has a game 1 & 2 held me so thight in interest for so long!
I love this game so much, it may be my favorite game of all time at this point. I will always respect the hell out of Naughty Dog for doing such a bold and challenging story instead of just "The adventures of Joel and Ellie part II" like they could've easily done.
Seeing that picture with Abby, Ellie and Joel all together like friends posing for a photo made me feel weird. Then I thought what if that’s what it’s like in an “afterlife”. When you’re no longer bound by the necessities of survival, and you can see the bigger picture, perhaps you can understand and even be friends with your biggest enemy from the physical world.
Best game of the generation, and now my favorite game of all time and my 2nd favorite story in any form of media. Who better to give this award then a Narrative legend himself, Christopher Nolan. This game, this masterpiece deserved every award and all the love it has gotten. Thank you Neil Drunkmann for this fantastic story.
Clap to the Last Of Us Part 2 winning the awards! This game is a masterpiece and I was definitely lucky to finally experience it. Cheers to this wonderful game.
I loved this game man. Seeing all the people on the hate-train sucks 'cause I just wish we could all enjoy it. Abby's character was handled well and deep, but she Garner's so much hate from people who haven't even played the game. I'm just glad there's a fanbase of people out there who can enjoy it
Absolutely! Though the game unfortunately has some pacing issues, I absolutely adore TLOU2 and it is far and away my choice for game of the year, especially after the shitshow launch that has been Cyberpunk on consoles running at sub 720p 15fps....
I also find it ironic that most of the people who hate this game didn't get the core message at all, it's not a story about revenge, sure revenge may be the inciting plot incident, but it's ultimately a story about forgiveness, overcoming trauma, and learning to recognize that there's two sides to every story. Sadly they just weren't able to forgive due to their close mindedness and hatred... Something that Tommy also fell victim too ironically...
@@pineapplesplash9166 my favorite detail is that you can pick the safes just by listening to the ticks with a good pair of headphones. So much easier than trying to find some of the notes😂
It was just so refreshing to hear such a controversial, hated game that I loved win. I cant express the joy I feel. So beautiful and I am so happy for Laura Bailey and equally impressed of her portrayal of a character I hated, to one I admired and respected. If anyone is reading this and still wondering why it won, consider that no matter how much you hate it or resent it, it impacted you in a way no other game has, and it still is. Fantastic video essay my friend.
But I wish I did more. The last of us 2 didn’t really make me feel anything that wast sorry for Ellie. Abby was token in a bad direction, I wish I could’ve seen her reflect at all on her actions but we don’t. I saw Ellie break down after killing a pregnant girl (even though she’s killed a lot of people so idk why she’s breaking down.) but I felt bad. I saw Abby almost happy to slit a pregnant girls throat. I saw Ellie reflect on her actions and have real consequences for them, like ptsd. I saw Abby have nightmares and kind hints to the fact that she’s helping the lev and yara but never really says it. I saw Ellie have to leave people behind while I saw Abby kill the pepole she called friends with no remorse. Hell even when manny died he’s never mentioned again, she barely remembered him past that point. It’s just to much stuff and I can still go on. It’s not a terrible game gameplay wise in my opinion, I go back to play it sometimes now! But god the story has dived people so much and there’s so many plot holes that you really HAVE to try to ignore the criticism to like it
I won’t thank enough Neil Druckmann and Naughty Dog for this journey which has been more than just a game for me. I’m so glad to see theme received so much awards for this. Thank you
I literally cried when Laura won, I was so happy to see her get the recognition she deserves! Her and all the team at ND did such a phenomenal job on this game that still means so much to me, and clearly to others as well, a full six months after its initial release. As I fan I feel vindicated so I can only imagine how it feels for them. Keep up the awesome TLOU2 content, Wolf!! Love it.
@@tlou_explained It was an award for best performance not for who got death threats though? Like I'm sorry but I dont get this. Laura getting death threats was absolutely horrible and it's nice that she's getting some love now but I don't understand thinking of an award for best performance like a form of compensation for getting death threats. Seems a little unfair when Ashley was just as deserving if not more IMHO
@@cmdrshep2217 yeah I get that. But there's only one award, and there's often politics around who gets it. Imo, laura had the more challenging role, and the death threats were a result of that. By giving her the award it a) acknowledges the amazing work she did with a VERY complex character who the player feels compelled to hate at the beginning and eventually comes to empathize with and even care about, and b) sends a message to the gaming community that the kind of vitriol we have seen surrounding this game and character will not be tolerated or placated. Ashley did an incredible job and I think it's important that Laura acknowledged that her and Troy's performances formed the emotional core of the story in the first game, but (imo!) Abby was the emotional core of the second, and giving Ashley the award over Laura would have been fuel for the 'i hate Abby/Laura' fire.
@@tlou_explained I guess I just disagree with Abby being the emotional core. I see her part of the game as a grand way of still serving Joel and Ellie's story in this game which to me is still the core. First game was about the love Joel develops for Ellie and this game IMO explores Ellie's love for Joel but just in a different way. I think Laura is great and did a great job but I found Ashley's role more challenging and she had more powerful scenes. Ashley had to age up her character, still play younger versions in flashbacks, sing in character and overall convey a broader range of emotions. I know there's some politics behind the award but personally it's a shame then that a best performance award isnt solely about performances.
Thank you so much for your awesome content. Your channel, along with TLOU Strategist, has made me appreciate the Last of Us Part II even more by analyzing the story and the characters. I love Part II and I'm heartbroken by all the hate is getting. Hopefully, it will be more appreciated by people in the future. It is very rare that a video game will make me cry, but this one did. As always, thanks for producing great videos.
wolf of thorns, PLEASE make a video countering the biggest “plot holes” that people have about this game like “why joel trusted baby’s group” and etc. if anyone could do it, you can! also, your content is amazing! are you a writer?
Thanks for your faith in me. I think @firefly. does a great job covering the specific argument you mention, and I threw up a link to his video on my QnA video. If you look in the description of my QnA and jump to the timestamp where I answer Erwin Rommel's question around the 18 minute mark. And, yes, I am a writer. I am sure I will talk about that more on the channel at a later date, as I don't want my novel to be the central focus of my content. At least not on a channel like this.
just in response to ur question, I'd say Joel trusted Abby's group since he had been in no dangerous situations with humans for the past 3-4 years since he moved to jackson. Also, he never really trusted them, he was mostly forced to go there since he had no other escape route, and tommy gave out their names, not joel
@@anonymoustangerine Yup. If you go through the whole thing, the only mistake they made was missing Abby's reaction to hearing Joel's name when Tommy initially introduced them both (using first names only mind) to reassure a scared girl back in the first lodge. Considering a horde of infected were breaking in at the time it's understandable. Most criticism I see deliberately ignores details in the story or vastly over exaggerates what happened. The main ones I can remember? 1) Joel would spot a trap: It wasn't a trap so there was nothing to spot. No one knew who they were when they arrived and they were initially grateful to them for bringing their friend back. 2) They wouldn't "invite everyone back to their camp": They didn't. They invited everyone back to the large fortified city they lived in, not their own houses within it. This is how Jackson grows. Some people stay, some trade and moved on. 3) They were a "heavily armed group": They weren't. Everyone had a pistol and I saw one shotgun. That's pretty normal in TLOU. If anything it's too lightly armed. The patrols from Jackson were more heavily armed with everyone having a rifle and a pistol. 4) Joel wouldn't help Abby: The patrols regularly help stragglers. If Joel wasn't willing to help people they wouldn't send him on patrol. He has clearly changed over the preceding four years and if he was still just the selfish smuggler from Boston people wouldn't have left so many flowers at his house after his death.
"This means that players voted more for the performance of Abby..." That's just the thing, as far as the Game Awards goes, our votes only account for 10% of the final results. . . . . . . . . Can we confirm that the majority of player votes went for Laura Bailey? Even if you absolutely love this game, as I do, not only is your emotional attachment in favor of your nostalgia for the experiences you've had as Ellie, your common sense would recognize that Ashley Johnson's performance had the weight of a profound experience she's been taking part in long before this game was even announced to be in production, and looking further into it you'd know that Ellie wouldn't be Ellie without Ashley Johnson's imprint on that character, an imprint climaxing as Ashley Johnson's performance dives into five different versions of Ellie in ONE game. Ashley Johnson's performance isn't better because anyone hates Abby, it's more dynamic, and the toll it took on the actress is far heavier than we can imagine, because being the very mind body and spirit that participated in the creation of the character, the very challenges we feel in our endearment of Ellie, were challenges Ashley faced in their undertaking, as if they were her own.
yes I agree that if the general public had more voting power, then Abby wouldn't have won. the opinions of journalists and the opinions of the general public definitely don't match. Ultimately I agree with the journalists on this though, unlike most gamers. Ashley and Laura deserved it equally in my eyes.
i genuinely had a very hard time picking which actress i wanted to win more and i think they both deserved it. but Abby’s very complex emotions i feel like Laura portrayed flawlessly after replaying got her the award and she deserved it. i’ve replayed it and Abby keeps her emotions a little bit more of a secret then Ellie does but i feel like i could understand every thought going through Abby’s mind and that’s because of Laura
Honestly... does it matter? Both of their performances were absolutely AMAZING, and we can't know what's in everyone's head! I know Ellie and Abby are antagonists in the game, but as players maybe let's not pit them against each other? And let's especially NOT pit Ashley and Laura against each other: those two are real life friends who play D&D weekly and who love each other and who'd be happy for the other one winning no matter what! Let's just appreciate that the game got two nominations-worthy performances instead of one and that either of them could have won it, shall we?
I think it is because Abby was more charismatic than Ellie, which is intentional given their respective arcs of course. Critics seem to prefer that opposed to a more cynical personality like Ellie. I preferred Ashley Johnson's performance, because I like negative character arcs. However, Laura Bailey's performance sold me on Abby, which was a very impressive feat in my eyes.
This game won Ultimate game of the year award which is 100% fan voted it was behind GOT by a little in GOTY awards if fans weren't pulling through it would be behind all the other games but it wasn't. Fans made this happen it's not rigged there's absolutely no evidence for that. I hope Part 3 aims just as high. TLOU2 as shown the true potential video games have as art form superior to movies.
Honestly I love Abby as a character. She really shows how human we really are. The last of us part 2 is a revenge story, But I feel it’s also the willingness to move on in life after death.
Exactly, it makes me so sad that some people cant look past joels death, he killed so many people and even mentioned in first game that he did things he wasnt proud of, so of course one day someone would kill him. And abby ended up losing literally everyone around her, even though she killed only joel and let ellie and tommy live
@@clarissaleite99 loosing everyone around doesn't naturally make one symphasize with a character. Fandom hates Abby for her character being inconsistent and shallow, not really because she was the one who killed Joel. There is literally nothing to love this character at all, at least for people with some critical thinking.
@@salomaoserra6432 your points above are all true, however true fans are disgusted by both Abby and Ellie, both of them are distasteful and hated characters by the end of the TLOU 2. It's also true that a lot of fans got so triggered by the whole thing, they started threatening the voice actress of Abby. Prime examples of extreme idiots. My point is, the writing in the game is horrible, even Joel is pathetic, all main characters are hated and all secondary characters are simply shallow, hence, at least to me, neither Ellie or Abby is better than one of them. Both characters are horrible by all means.
@@salomaoserra6432I'm sorry if you are mistaking genius for bullshit. You are just one of those that I labelled in my previous reply if you can't handle other opinion without barking. Abby's father is a hypocrite, Abby is a hypocrite, she is a murderer, she is revenge-driven maniac who suddenly decided to save a child, apparently to prove herself she isn't scum she is, as her "friends" tell her. All while saving a child and her sister, she still keeps killing, even betraying and killing her own fellow groupmen. Her character is inconsistent, just like other's are, for example, Joel no longer has essential survival instincts, Tommy tells the WLF got enough of their revenge, but then suddenly thinks they didn't get enough of it and so on.
This game 100% deserved GOTY. The Last of Us is one of those games that makes me really feel something. The first time I played it, I remember wanting Abby dead so bad, and I felt how Ellie was feeling. The theatre battle between them was so impactful. It was so hard to root for a certain side, with me understanding why Abby did what she did, but also understanding why Ellie felt the way she did. The moment I realized I had to fight Ellie, my heart dropped and I genuinely didn't know what was gonna happen. I didn't want any of them to win, falling in love with Abby and, of course, Ellie being one of my favorite characters in gaming history. For anyone that doesn't understand why this game deserves GOTY, you just need to experience it
To be honest, Ashley Johnson may deserve the award more than Laura Bailey, but I think she won mostly because of that scene where she finds her dad after Joel leaves. If her acting in that scene wasn’t as good as it was, then I wouldn’t have bonded with her as much as i do. How much I loved the character really depended on that scene, and I think it’s one of the best scenes in the game
Finding Abby strapped to a pillar begging for help was just as heartbreaking as the death of Joel ☹️ I literally couldn't play another game for a week after this one, it was far too emotional a journey
i finished the entire part 1, Dlc and part 2 this november and first week of december and i still havent touched my ps4 after. im still processing everything. it's such a beautiful game and for someone who writes, the narrative really drove my emotions crazy. This game truly deserved the awards. 💓💓💓🥺🥺🥺
No,Just no lol It doesn’t even hold a candle to God of war or even part 1 tbh Red dead redemption 2 as well Ghost of Tsushima is also arguably better That’s just too much bud
TLOU series in general raises the bar of expectations. Storytelling, dialogue, plot, characters, etc... we've learned to expect more. And I'm glad to see the people who worked on it get rewarded for their efforts.
The best game I've ever played. There is no other game that has made me feel so empty, sad, shocked, happy, nervous, excited, etc. Everything from the story, the beautiful, graphic and so incredibly artistic environments to the characters in this deeply dark journey. The second the game was released, I played all night. I was so curious, so expectant. To be able to continue the journey with these fantastic characters was something you really longed for and I am so happy about how Naughty Dog and Neil Druckmann chose to go with the story. They wanted to tell their story and they did an incomparable job that felt packed with emotion. There were a lot of times when you just had to take a break because there was so much to take in. But at the same time it was not possible to stop playing. Last of Us Part 2 is very much about understanding the story, understanding the choices that are made, understanding why characters feel the way they do. This game, compared to the first game, is much darker. The story goes very deep, when it comes to playing with one's emotions and this is what Naughty Dog wanted the player to feel during the game. We know what happened at the end of the first game and it is clear that there will be consequences. Naughty Dog wanted you to feel anger, sadness, relief, happiness. Which also meant that this game received a lot of mixed reviews. But I think the game over time will be appreciated more. Because it really is a masterpiece in so many ways and the game will be hard to forget. Thank you Naughty Dog! 10/10 Masterpiece!
Masterpiece? Both of Ellie's revenge quests (Seattle and Santa Barbara) were unbelievable and unrealistic. Abby had a superior revenge motive over Ellie. Joel killed her father, the leader of the Fireflies (and other faction members) and he doomed humanity to further zombie apocalypse. Ellie knew that Joel killed the Fireflies, denied the world a cure, took away her choice and agency, lied to her for years, told her that her immunity meant nothing, invalidated her hardship and trauma (she was almost raped and murdered) and Ellie treated him like he was a pariah for the last two years of his life (after she found out the truth). And she doesn't even know that Joel killed Marlene (who was like her 'mom' and guardian angel) and Jerry (who was Abby's dad and the doctor hoping to use her to find a cure). Ellie would never try and avenge Joel's death. Abby could sail the seven seas in search of revenge, leaving bloody corpses in her wake. Meanwhile, Ellie can't even get her revenge driver's license. Lol. The LoU2 had a cheap and lazy revenge story. The best revenge stories are based on strong, well-defined vendettas. Ellie's revenge motives are contrived and paper thin. Joel was murdered because the Last of Us world is a violent place and actions have consequences that come back to haunt you. Then we have the beach scene. Guess. Who's. Back. But it has an opposite end result. Ellie spares or shows mercy towards Abby for very little reason. Was it because she pitied Abby's withered appearance? Or was it because Lev reminded Ellie of Joel and herself? Or was it the second blip flashback that told her to stop? That ending was bizarre. The writers tried to use a biblical ending. Abby was crucified to suffer for her sins (in a way that wasn't connected/related to her 'crimes'). Then Ellie unbelievably turns the other cheek. Abby survives because of grace (and random coincidences). Thank the Prophet for her becoming friends with Lev, getting caught by the Rattlers and Ellie's PTSD-induced visions. Abby accidentally stumbles into Joel and easily tricks him into an impromptu ambush AND Ellie spares her life because she looks pathetic, reminds her of her relationship with Joel and a sudden bipolar vision told her to _STOP!!!_ She is extremely lucky! Does anything like that sound like the Last of Us universe? David was hacked to pieces for far less. Lol. The ending was logically inconsistent with the story, its themes and premise. If there are no heroes or villains and everything is morally gray, then Abby should be crab bait ;) This isn't a world of miraculous forgiveness. Ellie made a HUGE commitment to perpetuate the cycle of violence by leaving her bucolic farm life, abandoning Dina and J.J. in the zombie wastelands, traveling 1,044 miles to Santa Barbara to kill even more people (unrelated to Joel's death) and kill Abby. Ellie was a psychopathic monster. She threatened Lev's life to force Abby to fight to the death. Ellie slashed Abby with her switchblade multiple times, stabbed her and was drowning her. Abby bit off two of her fingers. People don't believe that Ellie would forgive or show mercy to Abby because she experienced a blip flashback. No way. It's unrealistic and unbelievable. _Just Because_ is a horrible ending. Few people believed that Ellie would abandon her family (if she stayed, then that would've been the real end to the cycle of violence). IF she was crazy enough to actually leave them, THEN she sure as hell would be crazy enough to kill Abby. Ellie abandoned Dina and J.J. in the middle of a zombie/human dystopian wasteland - Dina and Ellie decided to live on a farm somewhere outside of Jackson, which was poorly protected from infected and hunters. Jackson was an ideal place to raise a child, but they (stupidly) chose against it. Since they made a home in such a high risk area, it was extremely important that both parents stay and protect the homestead and family. Ellie didn't care and leaves them to fend for themselves, which is kind of like a death sentence. _Screw you, Dina and J.J., your survival and happiness ain't my problem. Who do you think I am? Your partner or parent? Pshhhhh... Good luck everyone._ That's totally unbelievable. - Ellie was suffering PTSD. She experienced panic attacks, nightmares and insomnia. The game didn't portray her as a physical threat to the safety of Dina and J.J. Sure, Ellie had her emotional breakdown moments, but we never saw Ellie argue violently with Dina, hit or abuse anyone. It's quite the opposite. Dina was a loving, caring and understanding partner who did everything humanly possible to support Ellie and help her cope with her problems. Ellie didn't show any behavior that screamed, "Guys, I must leave you because I'm more of a danger and a risk to this family!" Ellie just got up, said I'm leaving for revenge because I can't cope. And that was it. - Ellie was suffering from PTSD due to Joel's violent death... and she thinks that killing more people and Abby is going to fix her emotional and psychological problems. That doesn't make any sense. Ellie was going through emotional hell... and she decided to fix it... by going back to hell. That's completely asinine. Ellie got her 10lbs of flesh from Abby. She and Tommy killed all of her friends, companions and loved ones. Ellie wouldn't trade her happy family life with a beautiful, adorable baby boy on a sunny, idyllic farm for a risky second revenge quest. - Ellie lost her parents when she was just a baby. Everyone she ever loved or cared for either left her or died. Ellie would never abandon, desert or ditch Dina (who stayed by her side, like a rock, through thick and thin), let alone a beautiful baby boy. When you raise a child, it forms a strong, inseparable bond based on love and devotion. Ellie could NEVER walk away from them. - Abby was in Santa Barbara, which was over 1,000 miles away from Jackson. It would take about two months on horseback to ride there. Ellie couldn't just leave the farm and conveniently seek revenge against Abby. She was FAR away. Ellie would have to travel 1,000 miles through the dangers of the zombie and human wastelands, which was extremely risky AND Abby may not be there, might be long gone or even dead. She would never leave because the revenge quest would be far too difficult and she'd have to be away from her FAMILY for at least fourth months or never come back if she was killed. Dina and J.J. could easily be killed by marauders or zombies. Yeah, she wouldn't leave. Ellie's second revenge quest is VERY unrealistic and unbelievable. Ellie had a tsunami of narrative momentum to Kill Abby and a momentary flashback stopped her not-so-dead in her tracks (pun intended!). Even worse, the flashback was at a point _before_ Joel's death. She had that memory for the entire period of her revenge quest. Clearly, the moment was very critical and she would no doubt think about it (especially during the long trip from Jackson-Seattle, then Seattle-Jackson, one year on the farm, and finally Jackson-Santa Barbara). Damn, Ellie's emotional processing is ridiculously slow... and destructive
@@sunnysied713 Too bad you find the story a problem. Most people will react differently to the story. I think it's a well written story that is not only a masterpiece in this game but also other things like graphics, animations, music, mood, etc. Maybe you did not understand what Naughty Dog wanted to convey with this game and thought most of it was a mess. It's okay if you think so. But even if you did not like the story, the game is still a masterpiece. recommend watching this video: ua-cam.com/video/bh5gzGs-63Y/v-deo.html
@@foacle9167 I understand what Naughty Dog was trying to do, but the execution was very sloppy. Why do you think it's believable and realistic that Ellie would go on her first revenge trip to Seattle? Why do you think that it's believable and realistic that she'd go on a second revenge trip to Santa Barbara? Why do you think it's believable and realistic that she'd pardon/show mercy/spare Abby's life at the Pillars? I already saw Girlfriend Review's video on the LoU2 and she is absolutely horrible at analyzing plot, themes, characterization and execution. The LoU2 had amazing production value, but it wasn't a masterpiece in all other categories. For example, it didn't deserve Best Score and Music. Why? The score consisted of a minimalistic set of eclectic instruments, dissonance and resonance. It wasn't a very complicated musical score. It was mood music that consisted mostly of ambient noise. That's hardly a soundtrack. It sounds more like music you can fall asleep to before bed. Background noise. That's not a masterpiece. Each track was more like a *sound study* and not really a musical piece. There were other games with a much better musical score. Ambient noise and mood music does not make it a masterpiece. The gameplay of LoU2 is very lightweight, minimalistic and there isn't much actual gameplay. In LoU2, we spent most of our time in cut scenes (10 hours!), transition animations (so many hidden loading screens), walking, talking, reading text (so many notes!), gathering supplies (so many drawers!), crafting, searching for upgrades/collectibles and sightseeing (look at the pixels!). We spent 70% of our time with busy work and the rest is actual gameplay (average combat and super-easy puzzles). The LoU2 was more like an interactive HBO series than a cinematic videogame.
@@sunnysied713 The world in these games goes from being a modern civilized world to becoming an even more fragmented and unjust world. The first Last of Us is mostly about a broken man who tries to find hope and strength after the loss of his daughter. His hope and strength in this game will be Ellie. Ellie gives him a life he lost and he gives her a life she lost. He can not imagine a life without her at the end of the first game and then decides to kill a lot of people to save her. Ellie will not want to live without him either, he becomes her father and is a big reason why she embarks on this journey of revenge. She hopes that when she takes her revenge she manages to get something back from it. Ellie can not imagine a life without him. Even though Ellie was very disappointed and sad about what Joel did that night in the hospital, it does not matter in the situation where she is most in wanting to take revenge. That's realistic. When you are angry and eager, you do not think of the whole in everything, but you think of now, you are angry, lost and eager. Ellie can not move on in life but is constantly thinking about what Abby did to Joel. Which in the end is about Ellie having to forgive herself for everything she's said and done. She has to forgive herself for him being gone, she has to forgive him for doing what he did and she also has to forgive Abby and understand why she did what she did. Which she does the second before she drowns Abby. Now that she has forgiven it and accepted it, she can move on. The world in The Last of Us is unfair and things are constantly happening, people are dying, people are splitting up, people want revenge ... The music also becomes a masterpiece in these games because it is set in perfect times and helps to create The Last of Us. If it were not for the music, Last of Us would not have been the same. The music helps to build hope in times where everything feels lost. The music puts excitement on occasions where everything is lost ... Gameplay feels like a big upgrade from the first game. The Combat system is awesome and the different things you can do with the character along with the animations, the gadgets you can create. I personally think that the gameplay is meant to feel more like an interactive movie / series. I do not think it is meant to feel like a video game. All these well-made things in the game work together and make it a masterpiece. It's okay not to like this game, just like it is with any other game. Some people do not like this game because they have a hard time understanding the choices made in the world of Last of Us. Some people do not like this game because it was too different from the first one. It's okay to have an opinion. I first thought the game was a masterpiece when I finished it and I still think so.
I feel ridiculous admitting that but tbh both the game's story and especially Abby's character are very special to me and all the senseless hate that's been spread online since the game's release has affected me a lot personally. I've participated in countless pointless discussions since then, dealing with the same bullshit arguments in hopes that I could change someone's mind about the game. Seeing creators like you making videos just to give TLOU2 its well-deserved praise like it's the most obvious thing in the world makes me want to cry tears of joy.
InCels, MAGAs and children- the ones who are too dumb to understand the complexity of it and are triggered to shout bullshit about it being a “woke” or “SJW propaganda “ game just because it stars a gay woman and and muscular woman as it’s player characters...THAT’S the people that hate this game...I’m yet to read any articulate and well thought out criticism when it comes to the Abby-hating or the storyline hating or the ending hating...
@@tobyb1018 while there maybe some valid and fair criticism to be made of the story or the ending (even if I will most likely disagree with it), in regards to Abby I have yet to see a logical or valid criticism of her. It's always some ridiculous nonsense like "She looks like a man" or "How is she able to get that big?"
I'm so happy the Last of Us 2 and everyone involved with the game has received the recognition they truly deserves. Truly its my favorite game of all time and il never stop loving it ❤.
I have binged all of your videos about TLOU2. Great content! Im satisfied it won all of the awards, it was well deserved! There is so much more to this game, it's a pity many don't see it.
@@WolfofThorns Wolf, I have a question. Would it be possible for you to make a video about the immunity? Many people are upset at how little of a role it has in Part II, but what they don’t understand is how this absence is expected since Joel essentially stripped away its importance.
i will never forget this game, i will never stop thinking about it. they created such powerful feelings inside so many people, and for that reason, they deserve all of these awards.
Just completed the Ellie half of the game on grounded and this time around explored every corner of the map (that meant killing almost every enemy i came across). The game is as stunning the 3rd time through as the first. The best stealth, shooter, narrative and graphics game i’ve ever played. I do love open world games but this game makes more sense being linear. Now to begin the Abbey portion on grounded and face the dreaded rat king while every one else is playing that new ps2 game that cd projekt red just released.
Ive been playing video games since I was 5 (yes, since GTA SA in 2004) and I’m pretty sure TLOU2 is the game I’ve replayed the most. I just love too damn much. I’ve finished my last playthrough about a week ago, and I’m currently playing TLOU games back to back! I’m in the winter part in TLOU1. Can’t wait to start TLOU2 right after finishing TLOU1. Playing the previous game for a sequel and jumping right onto the sequel is so fun to me.
This and part 1 are my favourite games of all time. Even after finishing part 2 i still think about it everyday and plan to start playing it again at Christmas. Phenomenal game
1:59 😬 Sry if I'm nit-picking, it don't mean that more players voted Laura bro. All categories except "Player's voice" are decided 90% by the jury which consists of mostly gaming journalists. We can see from the player's voice, aka player's choice category that it was bombarded with Ghost of Tsushima votes, most likely this the same case in other catergories, congrats to GoT. We'll never know what won in the fan-voting that makes up 10% unless the game awards show us. Glad the jury gave tlou2 the love it deserves imo 🔥
The first game meant so much to me as not only a story but as a call to analysis of the more bittersweet elements of the human experience; the second grew to match the caliber of that sentiment in no time at all. To see this game receive so much needless backlash was upsetting, but it’s nice to see it also receive its due recognition. I can’t wait to see how both of these games (and any future games set in the TLoU universe) steep in the coming years and to see what literary analyses can be pulled from them even then. (Speaking of which, thank you again for all the content on this channel! 💚)
This game left me in a state of shock in the best way possible for a week straight after playing it. It's such a powerfully told story, packed to the brim with bracing twists and turns, and engrossing performances that really add to the heart of the game's complex world and characters. Every little detail that went into making this game as amazing as it turned out to be, was paid off Thursday night. Laura Bailey deserved it, the whole game deserved it. So happy it won :)
From what I can tell, it seems like there were a lot of people who weren’t able to accept Joel’s death, it’s incredible the excuses I’ve heard too. “Well Joel saved Abby from the infected and she then does this to him? She’s a cold blooded killer the end of story,” and were unable to look past it. For the people who could see this as its own story is who was impacted the most.
What this game achieves is standing on its own as an indefinite game, but also very dependent on the first, and I think that’s what all sequels should be. New ways to expand a story, not just rehash the same thing for another time
I don't care how much people complain, this is one of the few times I feel a game deserved every award it got. It's so rare to have a game that takes risks and does something different and say something meaningful. ACTUALLY meaningful, not something shallow that looks meaningful on paper. No game has made me think about how people view each other in a time of crisis like this story has, and at such a time where that message is all the more meaningful. It's just such a beautiful game to me. I'm glad to see it get the recognition it deserves, in spite of the controversies.
not surprised. well deserved.👏👏👏👏👏👏 I enjoyed her parts of the game more then ellies if im honest. And her redemption arc was hard fought. Brilliant performance.
i think laura winning is similar to when heath won the oscar posthumously , Absolutely deserved but it wasn't just about the performance it was also because of everything she went through this was just a big f you to the haters.
@@thesquidi144 Gamers should never vote. They always change their opinions based off of bored shit talkers and trolls. There's been so many good or amazing games ignored and bashed because they say to never play the game. Years later , people give the game a try and they enjoyed it. They admit that they never gave the game a chance because the community said not to. People like them will always try to ruin something just for their own entertainment
As much as i enjoyed my time with TLOU2, it shouldn’t have won awards for “best action/adventure,” it’s not a part of that genre. And I would have given GOTY to Ghost of Tsushima.
I just realized something, a pretty big foreshadowing. When Joel and Bill got into his workshop, Bill said something along the lines of "You keep going like this it eventually will blow into your face" and we all know that in the end it did and Bill was right
The Jury counts for 90% of the weight for choosing the winner and the online vote is 10%. I think Abby should've won but her winning doesn't mean the majority of the online votes voted for her unfortunately.
I have an hour break at work and I’m about to use it to watch this thank u dad Edit: so happy she won and I love what you said about how we’re growing with the game and how our opinions are different everytime. The abby part was a million times better on my second run tbh, because the first around, while I was enjoying her, I spent the whole time terrified for Ellie omg. Now I’m on a third play through, cuz like why not
I think you are gonna enjoy the second run even more, now that you have more context to everything that happens. I played the first time and it was such a rush of emotions. I wanted to kill Abby so much, then I went full angry whey and Had to play as her ahaha, but then I really liked her and then hated her when having to beat Ellie, oh maaaaaannnnn, what a ride, what a ride!!! when I played the second time (Now on my 6th playthrough lol) made me get a lot more into perspective. The final fight destroyed me because although all of it, I was still leaning more to Ellie, but I just didnt wanna hurt Abby, that final fight I did in tears, just thinking, dont do it Ellie, dont do it please! What a fucking game, what a game, LOVE IT!
there are a lot of people who were against The Last Of Us 2 being GOTY but THAT DOESN'T MATTER anyway because I'm certain the percentage of people who loved the game is higher than the people who hate it.
I think it's 60% haters because eveywhere I go there are more people hating on the game than liking it. I mean, the most popular UA-camrs and influencers like Pewdiepie, AngryJoe, xQc, Tyler1 really despised the game... so I think we are in the minority
The game was worthy of an Emmy nomination (30 hours of gameplay is equal to 3 seasons of GOT). Life imitates art... Love of the game triumphed over the hate. I laugh in the face of the immature idiots who tried desperately hard to poison the experience.
The second part is the best game i ever played, and i will be happy for last of us part 3 but i don’t want anny lev or abby I liked em but i would like much more if ellie do stuff cause she’s iconic for it now
I don't see the point in getting angry over GOTY there's a voting jury who ultimately makes the call on who wins, not the players so it's hardly an accurate representation of what actual players think. Ghost of Tsushima won the players voice which is 100% of the players choice for the best game with 0 outside influence so I'm not bothered. The people who are still railing on this game seriously need to stop and shut up the majority of us made our deduction thought it was ok to not good and moved on.
Many different publications and shows exist besides The Game Awards. Players' choice awards are pretty common among them all. Ghost of Tsushima won 8 of those awards including the one at The Game Awards. The Last of Us 2 is currently sitting at 76.
Don't want to start a fight but I wouldn't say every award. Game Direction is definitely a no, audio design is decent but not half life or Doom Eternal good, best narrative is personally a no for me but the story is talked about so damn much that I can't be surprised. And as for game of the year, I'd have rather seen multiple other games win it. Best accessibility options is very well deserved for the last of us and I'm happy for Laura Baileys win too
@@lukefitton7329 let me tell you why the game won game direction. 1) It was one of those games that added incredible amount of detail to every setting. 2) the game mechanics are so good and extremely detailed it's only rivaled by RDR 2. Think about the rope physics or weapon upgrades. 3) The mo-cap technology they used were outstanding. I have never seen a game where the characters in the game can be mistaken for real life people. 4) It's story direction was quite unique, make you play as a character who you hated at first but eventually make you like her. I know this doesn't apply to us all but this was an achievement on its own. 5) Accessibility options in this game is mind-blowing. No game has even come close to this. 6) multiple difficulty settings. When you consider what this game did that most other games do not, it is not surprising it won the awards for Direction.
@@akramhossain4678 in terms of accessibility I agree, narrative is agree to disagree but I dont want to get into that, sound design had a lot of audio taken from the previous game and I just think that other games were more creative with the sound, abby is suitable for best VA performance, game direction is my big problem. I've no respect for Neil really due to his controversies, arrogance, and in some cases begging for sales and love for the game. But even though I wasn't a big fan of the narrative, it did take a brave route which is impressive.
@@ElShmiablo I guess I could... but you have google... So you should search for TLOU2 awards based on gamers choice. The other statistics are based on PS4 stats... I´m more of a guy who plays the game... Nothing besides that is important to me.
I thought the story sucked by the end, but the game overall was good and I liked it. The sound design, accessibility and Abby's VA's award were 100% deserved imho
Funny thing is: I didn't find the first game to be all that special. (Long read ahead, you've been warned) Doesn't mean that I thought it was bad game, just that, the amount of people calling it a masterpiece and the greatest video-game ever made seemed a tad bit ridiculous, and I personally believed it to be a massive overinflation of the quality of an otherwise good-at-best game. The characters were good, the performances were great, and the overall story was solid and decently paced, but the gameplay and crafting I found to be... very lacking, to say the least, not to mention the AI of the enemies, which were quite frankly terrible and clearly needed a lot more polish, even for the time. I'm one of those guys who thinks that, in a video-game, the gameplay should always be the main priority, reason as to why I found Part I of The Last of Us a very decent game, and only that at most... ...Though, when the trailer for Part II dropped back in 2016, and I saw Ellie playing that guitar amidst the blood and fresh corpses of what we thought at the time to be the remaining fireflies, I couldn't help myself but wonder what had brought her to such situation, and naturally I became curious as to what the second entry in the franchise was going to do with its narrative, and how it would meet the fans' expectations after the nigh-impossibly high rated first game. Same thing happened with the second trailer in 2017, which featured Abby (Whom at the moment of its release, a lot of us presumed she would end up being Ellie's mother, and that she was running away from a cult, dear Lord Almighty, how wrong we were). And again, the same happened with the third trailer that was released during E3 2018. The night in which I watched that trailer, I still remember vividly: The mountainous regions of central México are quite an altitude above the sea, so it gets cold as a stone when it rains, but that night, it was hailing. I had just finished studying for finals, so I decided that I would spend the final hours of the night tucked and covered in bed against the cold, watching the remaining announcements of E3. And there he was, Gustavo Santaolalla, the genius behind the TLOU soundtrack as well as other renowned movies, playing the beautiful Banjo. I don't know why, but from that moment, I knew the presentation was going to be good. The trailer featured a much more dynamic, fluid and cinematic gameplay, that looked like a lot of fun and featured different approaches in combat, and even though it didn't seem to be that different from the first one, it was clear that ND had put some effort into upgrading the gameplay, and having recently played Uncharted 4, I got excited for the first time about a Naughty Dog game. I had expectations for it to be a GOOD game. Fast forward to July of this year 2020, the leaks come out, the internet is on fire and Naughty Dog is acting desperately to take down all content related to TLOU II, and with good reason. I could not contain my curiosity and saw the leaks, man, I was, to put it simply, baffled, how the heck could they do this to their own beloved characters? Joel, beaten to death like a dog and Ellie defeated in combat by the same woman who murdered him. Wow. I lost interest. I wasn't going to play that garbage, the trailers were too good to live up to expectations. But two weeks ago, after I had already forgotten about all the drama, I decided. "Screw it, let's give it a try", since I had nothing else important to do honestly. It took me approximately three days to beat the game. When the credits rolled on my screen and "Wayfaring Stranger" started playing, I stood there, cold, open-mouthed in awe of what I had just experienced. It was almost sunrise, yet I craved no sleep, and I didn't know how to feel about myself. This goddamn game made me feel things no other had. I wanted Ellie to have her revenge, but I also wanted Abby to survive and protect Lev. I couldn't watch when Abby nearly killed Ellie with her bare-hands, but I also understood her reasons behind all of it. I was angry at Ellie for leaving Tommy to die, but I also felt happy for her when I saw her in that farm with Dina. I hated Abby for torturing Joel, yet I understood the pain of her loss. They got me to care about every character as if I knew them myself. And I wanted to protect them. But I also felt conflicted and I didn't know who I ultimately sided with, and even two weeks later, I'm still not sure if I do. The last song still gives me nightmares. I seriously want to believe that Ellie got a somewhat happy ending and went back to Jackson, but who knows. I'm glad Abby made it to Catalina island with Lev, the research for the cure will probably proceed there. (Here's hoping for Part III). TL;DR: I waited three and a half years for this game in hopes of it being GOOD, but it was more than that, it was EXCELLENT, a testament of the capacity of storytelling in gaming and a well-deserved GAME OF THE YEAR. Having played the sequel, I see the first game in a different light, and I'm fairly sure I will enjoy it more than I did the first time, and I'll eventually return to it. Who would've thought it would take me 7 years to truly appreciate linear story-telling in gaming, and it's all thanks to The Last of Us Part II. Peace.
Thank you for sharing your truly powerful and elemental experience with us, K-LA-K. I am very happy that you were able to jack into the pulse of the game and experience things you had never experienced before, especially for someone that once believed the gameplay should trump everything, including the narrative (which I hold as sacred in all things and our *true* connection to divinity.) Seriously, thank you for sharing this.
@@WolfofThorns Jesus Christ, I didn't think anyone would read this haha, thank you for taking the time of the day to look at my pseudo-essay. Your content is good man, keep doing what you do.
This game is just depression, with guns. And I love it. It's a shame that this game proved how disgusting people can be. Looking at the AntiSJW Incels who attacked the game developers with death threats because if a video game.
TLOU2 DEFINATELY DESERVED THIS AWARD!It's a beautiful game with a lot of meaning and it actually challenges our personality.None game has ever brought me those emotions and Ashley and Laura did a phenomenal work!Yeah sure Ashley nailed it ,but Laura did actually deserved this award not only for the hate she receirved, but also for her stunning performance!In the beginning Abby makes you angry and selfish wanting to end her for what she did,but when u see HER actual personality u see the amazing job that Laura did by bringing a hateful character to a beloved(for me) character who I cared a lot and I totally understand her perspective!As much easy as it sounds IT'S NOT!Congrats Naughty Dog you did an outstanding job!♥Well done also to u wolf for the great video.
I'll admit that I wasn't a big fan of this game myself, nor was I a big fan of abby's character but I was very happy for Laura Baileys win. Especially since some salty guys on twitter threatened her life just because of the death of Joel which is pretty pathetic.
I would love to see a video talking about how this got GotY while Ghost of Tsushima got Player’s choice. This game brought us fully into the story while GoT brought us into the world.
Hi wolf! Do you know the Guardian song by Shawn James? It's a song featured in the game meant to represent Ellie's thoughts and feelings through the end part (you can see the lyrics in Ellie's notebook when she's at the Farm, before the final mission with Abby starts). I would love to hear your anaylisis about the song, it's absolutely beautiful if you could share us your opinions. Thank you Wolf for the amazing content ❤
This video made my face leak (in the best way possible)! 💜 Congrats to all of the brilliant artists and supportive players who dared to broaden their minds and hearts!
No! Not a leaking face, though that condition should be no stranger to us TLOU fans. Talk about an emotional journey both within and without the game, am i right? And, yes, I am very happy for everyone at Naughty Dog's recognition, from the artist and animators and sound guys to, of course, our beloved performers and writers.
Hey Wolf! I really like watching your videos. This game and its predecessor have a tight grip on my mind and heart and I love watching videos like yours that show appreciation for the beauty that can be found in these two stories - especially Part 2, which can be very challenging at times. Congrats to Naughty Dog for this win! Now, I've noticed a little mistake in this video. You said that the awards that were given out on December 10th were solely voted by the players, which is not correct. The winners at TGA are determined by a blended vote between the voting jury, which is accounted for 90% and players, whos votes are accounted for 10%. The only gaming awards that are solely voted for by players are The Golden Joystick Awards, where TLOUP2 was also showered with awards.
I received Part II for Christmas and finished it a few days ago. I went in fully aware of both the praise and the condemnation. Personally, I don’t believe either of those two extremes are fair. Part II is a masterpiece in regards to performance, score, and accessibility, but for me, the story, plot, and character development was a dud. It was all far too lackluster. The game failed to make me care about Abby, Lev, and the rest of the Seattle characters like I care about the Jackson characters, or the characters from the original game. If some key elements of the narrative had been different, perhaps I would have had a more emotional play through. I see so many people talking about the emotional impact Part II had on them, and while I’m glad they enjoyed their experience, I sometimes wonder if we played the same game. I truly understand what Naughty Dog was going for, and I respect the risk they took, but I don’t think this is the type of risk you take with a title like TLOU. Honestly though, Part II feels like the middle to a beginning and an ending, so I hope one day soon Part III is announced 🤞🏻
In my view, an artist should never compromise their vision for money or to pander to any audience expectations. The best environment we could ever hope to inhabit is a place where a creator feels free to tell the story they feel passionate about, without compromise and without holding back. As an audience, player, experiencer, you like what you like and you don't like what you don't like. At the end of the day, some art will resonate with you and some won't. This is the way things have always been and the way they should always be.
@@WolfofThorns In short, I agree! One of the reasons I love and respect Naughty Dog is because they don’t pander to the player or their audience. The hatred they’ve received due to that is astronomical. Artists should have free rein to tell the stories they want to tell. No matter if it is or isn’t what the fans want to see or play.
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Reading, that TLoU Part 2 is Game Of The Year 2020 made me happy!! This game had to face so much hate after its release but in the end it received recognition.
Reminds me of the following: it was Ellie and Dina in Seattle (Day 1?). They found this letter (written by a priest?).
I can not make a direct quote but it was like this: if you have to face despair, a turning point will occur which leads to an even much better outcome / change for the better.
what a game of shit
@@slowmotionmarco True, the worst part is the hate started before the game even released because of the leaks
T H E L A S T O F U S P A R T ll 🌿
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@@mrdeath2697 Cry more
Going into this game for the first time, I was terrified being fully aware of the backlash and hate, then playing it for the first time, wondering if I was playing the same game, I thought I was the only one who liked the game for days (if not maybe weeks) to finding out there are others who feel the same, now, it won GOTY
Hell of an experience in more than one way
You are in like and welcome company here, Ryan. Never fear or worry on that account. And we're more than happy to have you.
We feel the same like you do. Glad to know.
It's been 5 months but I still can't forget this masterpiece .
@@finessecompeletion5581 The last of us 2 remake
The game kinda destroyed me BUT even after 6 months i still search for Tlou2 Reviews, Hiddenstories etc 😄 Never has a game 1 & 2 held me so thight in interest for so long!
After six months this game is still haunting me every single day
Drama queen
Even if you didnt like it, u know its good when it does that.
In a good way tho 😏
@@Jesus-Is-King19 I think the second game was amazing in every way
@@Jesus-Is-King19 haunting in a good way
I love this game so much, it may be my favorite game of all time at this point. I will always respect the hell out of Naughty Dog for doing such a bold and challenging story instead of just "The adventures of Joel and Ellie part II" like they could've easily done.
Same here!
underrated part of the game awards: ashley johnson's reaction to laura winning is so god damn cute and loveable
she was so happy for laura 🥺
They should've split the award. They were equally great performances
Unfortunately I somehow missed that
I actually missed that, thank you for pointing that out lol
They are good friends
Seeing that picture with Abby, Ellie and Joel all together like friends posing for a photo made me feel weird. Then I thought what if that’s what it’s like in an “afterlife”. When you’re no longer bound by the necessities of survival, and you can see the bigger picture, perhaps you can understand and even be friends with your biggest enemy from the physical world.
I’m not even religious. Just a weird thing that came to mind haha
I like this. :)
Best game of the generation, and now my favorite game of all time and my 2nd favorite story in any form of media. Who better to give this award then a Narrative legend himself, Christopher Nolan. This game, this masterpiece deserved every award and all the love it has gotten. Thank you Neil Drunkmann for this fantastic story.
What story is your favorite?
Clap to the Last Of Us Part 2 winning the awards! This game is a masterpiece and I was definitely lucky to finally experience it. Cheers to this wonderful game.
I loved this game man. Seeing all the people on the hate-train sucks 'cause I just wish we could all enjoy it. Abby's character was handled well and deep, but she Garner's so much hate from people who haven't even played the game. I'm just glad there's a fanbase of people out there who can enjoy it
Absolutely! Though the game unfortunately has some pacing issues, I absolutely adore TLOU2 and it is far and away my choice for game of the year, especially after the shitshow launch that has been Cyberpunk on consoles running at sub 720p 15fps....
I also find it ironic that most of the people who hate this game didn't get the core message at all, it's not a story about revenge, sure revenge may be the inciting plot incident, but it's ultimately a story about forgiveness, overcoming trauma, and learning to recognize that there's two sides to every story. Sadly they just weren't able to forgive due to their close mindedness and hatred... Something that Tommy also fell victim too ironically...
I love all the small details they put into this game. Ppl are only mad about one thing. This was a great game hands down.
@@pineapplesplash9166 my favorite detail is that you can pick the safes just by listening to the ticks with a good pair of headphones. So much easier than trying to find some of the notes😂
@@Jesus-Is-King19 they might not forgive, but they may be able to understand the big picture, build some acceptance, and move on with their lives
This game got me into playing guitar man honestly a masterpiece
Same!! I got a guitar after this game and do not regret it
If y'all have any trouble learning, a friend said Rocksmith helped them get better faster.
What is "guitar man"?
@@geopioneergsxr5357 bruh "guitar, man"
@@naimoon6565 🤣I'm very aware. I was obviously pointing out the horrible grammar.
It was just so refreshing to hear such a controversial, hated game that I loved win. I cant express the joy I feel. So beautiful and I am so happy for Laura Bailey and equally impressed of her portrayal of a character I hated, to one I admired and respected. If anyone is reading this and still wondering why it won, consider that no matter how much you hate it or resent it, it impacted you in a way no other game has, and it still is.
Fantastic video essay my friend.
But I wish I did more. The last of us 2 didn’t really make me feel anything that wast sorry for Ellie. Abby was token in a bad direction, I wish I could’ve seen her reflect at all on her actions but we don’t. I saw Ellie break down after killing a pregnant girl (even though she’s killed a lot of people so idk why she’s breaking down.) but I felt bad. I saw Abby almost happy to slit a pregnant girls throat. I saw Ellie reflect on her actions and have real consequences for them, like ptsd. I saw Abby have nightmares and kind hints to the fact that she’s helping the lev and yara but never really says it. I saw Ellie have to leave people behind while I saw Abby kill the pepole she called friends with no remorse. Hell even when manny died he’s never mentioned again, she barely remembered him past that point. It’s just to much stuff and I can still go on. It’s not a terrible game gameplay wise in my opinion, I go back to play it sometimes now! But god the story has dived people so much and there’s so many plot holes that you really HAVE to try to ignore the criticism to like it
Ellie is the greatest video game character ever, the ending left a huge impact on ke
I won’t thank enough Neil Druckmann and Naughty Dog for this journey which has been more than just a game for me. I’m so glad to see theme received so much awards for this. Thank you
I literally cried when Laura won, I was so happy to see her get the recognition she deserves! Her and all the team at ND did such a phenomenal job on this game that still means so much to me, and clearly to others as well, a full six months after its initial release. As I fan I feel vindicated so I can only imagine how it feels for them. Keep up the awesome TLOU2 content, Wolf!! Love it.
I wish Ashley could've split it with her. I feel like they both deserved it
@@sablemae8853 absolutely they did. Ashley didn't receive death threats tho
@@tlou_explained It was an award for best performance not for who got death threats though?
Like I'm sorry but I dont get this. Laura getting death threats was absolutely horrible and it's nice that she's getting some love now but I don't understand thinking of an award for best performance like a form of compensation for getting death threats. Seems a little unfair when Ashley was just as deserving if not more IMHO
@@cmdrshep2217 yeah I get that. But there's only one award, and there's often politics around who gets it. Imo, laura had the more challenging role, and the death threats were a result of that. By giving her the award it a) acknowledges the amazing work she did with a VERY complex character who the player feels compelled to hate at the beginning and eventually comes to empathize with and even care about, and b) sends a message to the gaming community that the kind of vitriol we have seen surrounding this game and character will not be tolerated or placated.
Ashley did an incredible job and I think it's important that Laura acknowledged that her and Troy's performances formed the emotional core of the story in the first game, but (imo!) Abby was the emotional core of the second, and giving Ashley the award over Laura would have been fuel for the 'i hate Abby/Laura' fire.
@@tlou_explained I guess I just disagree with Abby being the emotional core. I see her part of the game as a grand way of still serving Joel and Ellie's story in this game which to me is still the core. First game was about the love Joel develops for Ellie and this game IMO explores Ellie's love for Joel but just in a different way.
I think Laura is great and did a great job but I found Ashley's role more challenging and she had more powerful scenes. Ashley had to age up her character, still play younger versions in flashbacks, sing in character and overall convey a broader range of emotions.
I know there's some politics behind the award but personally it's a shame then that a best performance award isnt solely about performances.
Thank you so much for your awesome content. Your channel, along with TLOU Strategist, has made me appreciate the Last of Us Part II even more by analyzing the story and the characters. I love Part II and I'm heartbroken by all the hate is getting. Hopefully, it will be more appreciated by people in the future. It is very rare that a video game will make me cry, but this one did. As always, thanks for producing great videos.
Very satisfying to see them achieve the wins through all the toxicity, especially for Abby/Laura Bailey
The Abby hating was way overblown by a vocal minority.
wolf of thorns, PLEASE make a video countering the biggest “plot holes” that people have about this game like “why joel trusted baby’s group” and etc. if anyone could do it, you can!
also, your content is amazing! are you a writer?
Thanks for your faith in me. I think @firefly. does a great job covering the specific argument you mention, and I threw up a link to his video on my QnA video. If you look in the description of my QnA and jump to the timestamp where I answer Erwin Rommel's question around the 18 minute mark. And, yes, I am a writer. I am sure I will talk about that more on the channel at a later date, as I don't want my novel to be the central focus of my content. At least not on a channel like this.
@@WolfofThorns understandable! thanks!!
just in response to ur question, I'd say Joel trusted Abby's group since he had been in no dangerous situations with humans for the past 3-4 years since he moved to jackson. Also, he never really trusted them, he was mostly forced to go there since he had no other escape route, and tommy gave out their names, not joel
@@anonymoustangerine no no i agree that it was in character, but some people still don’t unfortunately
@@anonymoustangerine Yup. If you go through the whole thing, the only mistake they made was missing Abby's reaction to hearing Joel's name when Tommy initially introduced them both (using first names only mind) to reassure a scared girl back in the first lodge. Considering a horde of infected were breaking in at the time it's understandable. Most criticism I see deliberately ignores details in the story or vastly over exaggerates what happened. The main ones I can remember? 1) Joel would spot a trap: It wasn't a trap so there was nothing to spot. No one knew who they were when they arrived and they were initially grateful to them for bringing their friend back. 2) They wouldn't "invite everyone back to their camp": They didn't. They invited everyone back to the large fortified city they lived in, not their own houses within it. This is how Jackson grows. Some people stay, some trade and moved on. 3) They were a "heavily armed group": They weren't. Everyone had a pistol and I saw one shotgun. That's pretty normal in TLOU. If anything it's too lightly armed. The patrols from Jackson were more heavily armed with everyone having a rifle and a pistol. 4) Joel wouldn't help Abby: The patrols regularly help stragglers. If Joel wasn't willing to help people they wouldn't send him on patrol. He has clearly changed over the preceding four years and if he was still just the selfish smuggler from Boston people wouldn't have left so many flowers at his house after his death.
"This means that players voted more for the performance of Abby..."
That's just the thing, as far as the Game Awards goes, our votes only account for 10% of the final results.
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Can we confirm that the majority of player votes went for Laura Bailey? Even if you absolutely love this game, as I do, not only is your emotional attachment in favor of your nostalgia for the experiences you've had as Ellie, your common sense would recognize that Ashley Johnson's performance had the weight of a profound experience she's been taking part in long before this game was even announced to be in production, and looking further into it you'd know that Ellie wouldn't be Ellie without Ashley Johnson's imprint on that character, an imprint climaxing as Ashley Johnson's performance dives into five different versions of Ellie in ONE game. Ashley Johnson's performance isn't better because anyone hates Abby, it's more dynamic, and the toll it took on the actress is far heavier than we can imagine, because being the very mind body and spirit that participated in the creation of the character, the very challenges we feel in our endearment of Ellie, were challenges Ashley faced in their undertaking, as if they were her own.
yes I agree that if the general public had more voting power, then Abby wouldn't have won. the opinions of journalists and the opinions of the general public definitely don't match. Ultimately I agree with the journalists on this though, unlike most gamers. Ashley and Laura deserved it equally in my eyes.
i genuinely had a very hard time picking which actress i wanted to win more and i think they both deserved it. but Abby’s very complex emotions i feel like Laura portrayed flawlessly after replaying got her the award and she deserved it. i’ve replayed it and Abby keeps her emotions a little bit more of a secret then Ellie does but i feel like i could understand every thought going through Abby’s mind and that’s because of Laura
Honestly... does it matter? Both of their performances were absolutely AMAZING, and we can't know what's in everyone's head!
I know Ellie and Abby are antagonists in the game, but as players maybe let's not pit them against each other? And let's especially NOT pit Ashley and Laura against each other: those two are real life friends who play D&D weekly and who love each other and who'd be happy for the other one winning no matter what!
Let's just appreciate that the game got two nominations-worthy performances instead of one and that either of them could have won it, shall we?
I think it is because Abby was more charismatic than Ellie, which is intentional given their respective arcs of course. Critics seem to prefer that opposed to a more cynical personality like Ellie. I preferred Ashley Johnson's performance, because I like negative character arcs. However, Laura Bailey's performance sold me on Abby, which was a very impressive feat in my eyes.
The majoriy agrees with Ashley having a better performance
This game won Ultimate game of the year award which is 100% fan voted it was behind GOT by a little in GOTY awards if fans weren't pulling through it would be behind all the other games but it wasn't. Fans made this happen it's not rigged there's absolutely no evidence for that. I hope Part 3 aims just as high. TLOU2 as shown the true potential video games have as art form superior to movies.
Honestly I love Abby as a character. She really shows how human we really are. The last of us part 2 is a revenge story, But I feel it’s also the willingness to move on in life after death.
Exactly, it makes me so sad that some people cant look past joels death, he killed so many people and even mentioned in first game that he did things he wasnt proud of, so of course one day someone would kill him. And abby ended up losing literally everyone around her, even though she killed only joel and let ellie and tommy live
@@clarissaleite99 loosing everyone around doesn't naturally make one symphasize with a character. Fandom hates Abby for her character being inconsistent and shallow, not really because she was the one who killed Joel. There is literally nothing to love this character at all, at least for people with some critical thinking.
@@salomaoserra6432 your points above are all true, however true fans are disgusted by both Abby and Ellie, both of them are distasteful and hated characters by the end of the TLOU 2. It's also true that a lot of fans got so triggered by the whole thing, they started threatening the voice actress of Abby. Prime examples of extreme idiots.
My point is, the writing in the game is horrible, even Joel is pathetic, all main characters are hated and all secondary characters are simply shallow, hence, at least to me, neither Ellie or Abby is better than one of them. Both characters are horrible by all means.
@@salomaoserra6432I'm sorry if you are mistaking genius for bullshit.
You are just one of those that I labelled in my previous reply if you can't handle other opinion without barking. Abby's father is a hypocrite, Abby is a hypocrite, she is a murderer, she is revenge-driven maniac who suddenly decided to save a child, apparently to prove herself she isn't scum she is, as her "friends" tell her. All while saving a child and her sister, she still keeps killing, even betraying and killing her own fellow groupmen. Her character is inconsistent, just like other's are, for example, Joel no longer has essential survival instincts, Tommy tells the WLF got enough of their revenge, but then suddenly thinks they didn't get enough of it and so on.
@@salomaoserra6432 you just hit these simps in the head with the sense pipe as hard as Elie hit Nora
I've said it again but really good content man. I feel honored that I'm here at the start, before you go big, because you sure are. Keep it up!
This game 100% deserved GOTY. The Last of Us is one of those games that makes me really feel something. The first time I played it, I remember wanting Abby dead so bad, and I felt how Ellie was feeling. The theatre battle between them was so impactful. It was so hard to root for a certain side, with me understanding why Abby did what she did, but also understanding why Ellie felt the way she did. The moment I realized I had to fight Ellie, my heart dropped and I genuinely didn't know what was gonna happen. I didn't want any of them to win, falling in love with Abby and, of course, Ellie being one of my favorite characters in gaming history. For anyone that doesn't understand why this game deserves GOTY, you just need to experience it
To be honest, Ashley Johnson may deserve the award more than Laura Bailey, but I think she won mostly because of that scene where she finds her dad after Joel leaves. If her acting in that scene wasn’t as good as it was, then I wouldn’t have bonded with her as much as i do. How much I loved the character really depended on that scene, and I think it’s one of the best scenes in the game
I HATED Abby when she killed Joel.
I LOVED her as a character by the end of the game.
Same. I was raging and couldn’t wait to kill everyone but then Abby was surprisingly great
Finding Abby strapped to a pillar begging for help was just as heartbreaking as the death of Joel ☹️
I literally couldn't play another game for a week after this one, it was far too emotional a journey
Yes
I am glad that more and more people stop with that useless Abby hate.
i finished the entire part 1, Dlc and part 2 this november and first week of december and i still havent touched my ps4 after. im still processing everything. it's such a beautiful game and for someone who writes, the narrative really drove my emotions crazy. This game truly deserved the awards. 💓💓💓🥺🥺🥺
The game deserved every single award it got. Such an amazing experience
Agreed
Lmmfao what a joke!
@@chrisdamon7220 Im sorry I have a different opinion
@@chrisdamon7220 Get rekt
Chris Damon Get out man baby
The last of us part of was the game of the decade.
That's a huge reach. And that comes from a huge fan
Game of the generation for sure.
It’s my favorite game... so that’s a yes for me.
It's up there but I think I might lean RDR 2.
No,Just no lol
It doesn’t even hold a candle to God of war or even part 1 tbh
Red dead redemption 2 as well
Ghost of Tsushima is also arguably better
That’s just too much bud
TLOU series in general raises the bar of expectations. Storytelling, dialogue, plot, characters, etc... we've learned to expect more. And I'm glad to see the people who worked on it get rewarded for their efforts.
The best game I've ever played. There is no other game that has made me feel so empty, sad, shocked, happy, nervous, excited, etc.
Everything from the story, the beautiful, graphic and so incredibly artistic environments to the characters in this deeply dark journey.
The second the game was released, I played all night. I was so curious, so expectant. To be able to continue the journey with these fantastic characters was something you really longed for and I am so happy about how Naughty Dog and Neil Druckmann chose to go with the story. They wanted to tell their story and they did an incomparable job that felt packed with emotion. There were a lot of times when you just had to take a break because there was so much to take in. But at the same time it was not possible to stop playing.
Last of Us Part 2 is very much about understanding the story, understanding the choices that are made, understanding why characters feel the way they do. This game, compared to the first game, is much darker. The story goes very deep, when it comes to playing with one's emotions and this is what Naughty Dog wanted the player to feel during the game. We know what happened at the end of the first game and it is clear that there will be consequences. Naughty Dog wanted you to feel anger, sadness, relief, happiness. Which also meant that this game received a lot of mixed reviews.
But I think the game over time will be appreciated more. Because it really is a masterpiece in so many ways and the game will be hard to forget.
Thank you Naughty Dog!
10/10 Masterpiece!
Masterpiece? Both of Ellie's revenge quests (Seattle and Santa Barbara) were unbelievable and unrealistic. Abby had a superior revenge motive over Ellie. Joel killed her father, the leader of the Fireflies (and other faction members) and he doomed humanity to further zombie apocalypse. Ellie knew that Joel killed the Fireflies, denied the world a cure, took away her choice and agency, lied to her for years, told her that her immunity meant nothing, invalidated her hardship and trauma (she was almost raped and murdered) and Ellie treated him like he was a pariah for the last two years of his life (after she found out the truth). And she doesn't even know that Joel killed Marlene (who was like her 'mom' and guardian angel) and Jerry (who was Abby's dad and the doctor hoping to use her to find a cure). Ellie would never try and avenge Joel's death. Abby could sail the seven seas in search of revenge, leaving bloody corpses in her wake. Meanwhile, Ellie can't even get her revenge driver's license. Lol. The LoU2 had a cheap and lazy revenge story. The best revenge stories are based on strong, well-defined vendettas. Ellie's revenge motives are contrived and paper thin.
Joel was murdered because the Last of Us world is a violent place and actions have consequences that come back to haunt you. Then we have the beach scene. Guess. Who's. Back. But it has an opposite end result. Ellie spares or shows mercy towards Abby for very little reason. Was it because she pitied Abby's withered appearance? Or was it because Lev reminded Ellie of Joel and herself? Or was it the second blip flashback that told her to stop? That ending was bizarre. The writers tried to use a biblical ending. Abby was crucified to suffer for her sins (in a way that wasn't connected/related to her 'crimes'). Then Ellie unbelievably turns the other cheek. Abby survives because of grace (and random coincidences). Thank the Prophet for her becoming friends with Lev, getting caught by the Rattlers and Ellie's PTSD-induced visions. Abby accidentally stumbles into Joel and easily tricks him into an impromptu ambush AND Ellie spares her life because she looks pathetic, reminds her of her relationship with Joel and a sudden bipolar vision told her to _STOP!!!_ She is extremely lucky! Does anything like that sound like the Last of Us universe? David was hacked to pieces for far less. Lol. The ending was logically inconsistent with the story, its themes and premise. If there are no heroes or villains and everything is morally gray, then Abby should be crab bait ;) This isn't a world of miraculous forgiveness.
Ellie made a HUGE commitment to perpetuate the cycle of violence by leaving her bucolic farm life, abandoning Dina and J.J. in the zombie wastelands, traveling 1,044 miles to Santa Barbara to kill even more people (unrelated to Joel's death) and kill Abby. Ellie was a psychopathic monster. She threatened Lev's life to force Abby to fight to the death. Ellie slashed Abby with her switchblade multiple times, stabbed her and was drowning her. Abby bit off two of her fingers. People don't believe that Ellie would forgive or show mercy to Abby because she experienced a blip flashback. No way. It's unrealistic and unbelievable. _Just Because_ is a horrible ending. Few people believed that Ellie would abandon her family (if she stayed, then that would've been the real end to the cycle of violence). IF she was crazy enough to actually leave them, THEN she sure as hell would be crazy enough to kill Abby.
Ellie abandoned Dina and J.J. in the middle of a zombie/human dystopian wasteland
- Dina and Ellie decided to live on a farm somewhere outside of Jackson, which was poorly protected from infected and hunters. Jackson was an ideal place to raise a child, but they (stupidly) chose against it. Since they made a home in such a high risk area, it was extremely important that both parents stay and protect the homestead and family. Ellie didn't care and leaves them to fend for themselves, which is kind of like a death sentence. _Screw you, Dina and J.J., your survival and happiness ain't my problem. Who do you think I am? Your partner or parent? Pshhhhh... Good luck everyone._ That's totally unbelievable.
- Ellie was suffering PTSD. She experienced panic attacks, nightmares and insomnia. The game didn't portray her as a physical threat to the safety of Dina and J.J. Sure, Ellie had her emotional breakdown moments, but we never saw Ellie argue violently with Dina, hit or abuse anyone. It's quite the opposite. Dina was a loving, caring and understanding partner who did everything humanly possible to support Ellie and help her cope with her problems. Ellie didn't show any behavior that screamed, "Guys, I must leave you because I'm more of a danger and a risk to this family!" Ellie just got up, said I'm leaving for revenge because I can't cope. And that was it.
- Ellie was suffering from PTSD due to Joel's violent death... and she thinks that killing more people and Abby is going to fix her emotional and psychological problems. That doesn't make any sense. Ellie was going through emotional hell... and she decided to fix it... by going back to hell. That's completely asinine. Ellie got her 10lbs of flesh from Abby. She and Tommy killed all of her friends, companions and loved ones. Ellie wouldn't trade her happy family life with a beautiful, adorable baby boy on a sunny, idyllic farm for a risky second revenge quest.
- Ellie lost her parents when she was just a baby. Everyone she ever loved or cared for either left her or died. Ellie would never abandon, desert or ditch Dina (who stayed by her side, like a rock, through thick and thin), let alone a beautiful baby boy. When you raise a child, it forms a strong, inseparable bond based on love and devotion. Ellie could NEVER walk away from them.
- Abby was in Santa Barbara, which was over 1,000 miles away from Jackson. It would take about two months on horseback to ride there. Ellie couldn't just leave the farm and conveniently seek revenge against Abby. She was FAR away. Ellie would have to travel 1,000 miles through the dangers of the zombie and human wastelands, which was extremely risky AND Abby may not be there, might be long gone or even dead. She would never leave because the revenge quest would be far too difficult and she'd have to be away from her FAMILY for at least fourth months or never come back if she was killed. Dina and J.J. could easily be killed by marauders or zombies. Yeah, she wouldn't leave.
Ellie's second revenge quest is VERY unrealistic and unbelievable.
Ellie had a tsunami of narrative momentum to Kill Abby and a momentary flashback stopped her not-so-dead in her tracks (pun intended!). Even worse, the flashback was at a point _before_ Joel's death. She had that memory for the entire period of her revenge quest. Clearly, the moment was very critical and she would no doubt think about it (especially during the long trip from Jackson-Seattle, then Seattle-Jackson, one year on the farm, and finally Jackson-Santa Barbara). Damn, Ellie's emotional processing is ridiculously slow... and destructive
@@sunnysied713 Too bad you find the story a problem. Most people will react differently to the story. I think it's a well written story that is not only a masterpiece in this game but also other things like graphics, animations, music, mood, etc. Maybe you did not understand what Naughty Dog wanted to convey with this game and thought most of it was a mess. It's okay if you think so. But even if you did not like the story, the game is still a masterpiece.
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@@foacle9167 I understand what Naughty Dog was trying to do, but the execution was very sloppy. Why do you think it's believable and realistic that Ellie would go on her first revenge trip to Seattle? Why do you think that it's believable and realistic that she'd go on a second revenge trip to Santa Barbara? Why do you think it's believable and realistic that she'd pardon/show mercy/spare Abby's life at the Pillars? I already saw Girlfriend Review's video on the LoU2 and she is absolutely horrible at analyzing plot, themes, characterization and execution.
The LoU2 had amazing production value, but it wasn't a masterpiece in all other categories. For example, it didn't deserve Best Score and Music. Why? The score consisted of a minimalistic set of eclectic instruments, dissonance and resonance. It wasn't a very complicated musical score. It was mood music that consisted mostly of ambient noise. That's hardly a soundtrack. It sounds more like music you can fall asleep to before bed. Background noise. That's not a masterpiece. Each track was more like a *sound study* and not really a musical piece. There were other games with a much better musical score. Ambient noise and mood music does not make it a masterpiece.
The gameplay of LoU2 is very lightweight, minimalistic and there isn't much actual gameplay. In LoU2, we spent most of our time in cut scenes (10 hours!), transition animations (so many hidden loading screens), walking, talking, reading text (so many notes!), gathering supplies (so many drawers!), crafting, searching for upgrades/collectibles and sightseeing (look at the pixels!). We spent 70% of our time with busy work and the rest is actual gameplay (average combat and super-easy puzzles). The LoU2 was more like an interactive HBO series than a cinematic videogame.
@@sunnysied713 The world in these games goes from being a modern civilized world to becoming an even more fragmented and unjust world. The first Last of Us is mostly about a broken man who tries to find hope and strength after the loss of his daughter. His hope and strength in this game will be Ellie. Ellie gives him a life he lost and he gives her a life she lost. He can not imagine a life without her at the end of the first game and then decides to kill a lot of people to save her.
Ellie will not want to live without him either, he becomes her father and is a big reason why she embarks on this journey of revenge. She hopes that when she takes her revenge she manages to get something back from it. Ellie can not imagine a life without him. Even though Ellie was very disappointed and sad about what Joel did that night in the hospital, it does not matter in the situation where she is most in wanting to take revenge. That's realistic. When you are angry and eager, you do not think of the whole in everything, but you think of now, you are angry, lost and eager.
Ellie can not move on in life but is constantly thinking about what Abby did to Joel. Which in the end is about Ellie having to forgive herself for everything she's said and done. She has to forgive herself for him being gone, she has to forgive him for doing what he did and she also has to forgive Abby and understand why she did what she did. Which she does the second before she drowns Abby. Now that she has forgiven it and accepted it, she can move on. The world in The Last of Us is unfair and things are constantly happening, people are dying, people are splitting up, people want revenge ...
The music also becomes a masterpiece in these games because it is set in perfect times and helps to create The Last of Us. If it were not for the music, Last of Us would not have been the same. The music helps to build hope in times where everything feels lost. The music puts excitement on occasions where everything is lost ...
Gameplay feels like a big upgrade from the first game. The Combat system is awesome and the different things you can do with the character along with the animations, the gadgets you can create. I personally think that the gameplay is meant to feel more like an interactive movie / series. I do not think it is meant to feel like a video game.
All these well-made things in the game work together and make it a masterpiece. It's okay not to like this game, just like it is with any other game. Some people do not like this game because they have a hard time understanding the choices made in the world of Last of Us. Some people do not like this game because it was too different from the first one. It's okay to have an opinion. I first thought the game was a masterpiece when I finished it and I still think so.
I feel ridiculous admitting that but tbh both the game's story and especially Abby's character are very special to me and all the senseless hate that's been spread online since the game's release has affected me a lot personally. I've participated in countless pointless discussions since then, dealing with the same bullshit arguments in hopes that I could change someone's mind about the game. Seeing creators like you making videos just to give TLOU2 its well-deserved praise like it's the most obvious thing in the world makes me want to cry tears of joy.
It's hilarious how there's STILL hate on this game. This game was amazing
It’s called valid criticism not hate.
InCels, MAGAs and children- the ones who are too dumb to understand the complexity of it and are triggered to shout bullshit about it being a “woke” or “SJW propaganda “ game just because it stars a gay woman and and muscular woman as it’s player characters...THAT’S the people that hate this game...I’m yet to read any articulate and well thought out criticism when it comes to the Abby-hating or the storyline hating or the ending hating...
@@tobyb1018 while there maybe some valid and fair criticism to be made of the story or the ending (even if I will most likely disagree with it), in regards to Abby I have yet to see a logical or valid criticism of her. It's always some ridiculous nonsense like "She looks like a man" or "How is she able to get that big?"
Amazing video !
Neil Druckmann and Halley gross nailed it with TLOU2 . Also every other person at ND.
REALLY HAPPY THAT THE LAST OF US PART 2 WON
WAITING FOR THE LAST OF US PART 3
I'm so happy the Last of Us 2 and everyone involved with the game has received the recognition they truly deserves. Truly its my favorite game of all time and il never stop loving it ❤.
I love that your only playable interaction with Joel is to take him for one last ride into the sunset.
I have binged all of your videos about TLOU2. Great content! Im satisfied it won all of the awards, it was well deserved! There is so much more to this game, it's a pity many don't see it.
So glad you're enjoying the videos, Andrea. It's great to be able to celebrate what we enjoy with likeminded fans.
@@WolfofThorns Wolf, I have a question. Would it be possible for you to make a video about the immunity? Many people are upset at how little of a role it has in Part II, but what they don’t understand is how this absence is expected since Joel essentially stripped away its importance.
i will never forget this game, i will never stop thinking about it. they created such powerful feelings inside so many people, and for that reason, they deserve all of these awards.
Just completed the Ellie half of the game on grounded and this time around explored every corner of the map (that meant killing almost every enemy i came across). The game is as stunning the 3rd time through as the first. The best stealth, shooter, narrative and graphics game i’ve ever played. I do love open world games but this game makes more sense being linear. Now to begin the Abbey portion on grounded and face the dreaded rat king while every one else is playing that new ps2 game that cd projekt red just released.
Ive been playing video games since I was 5 (yes, since GTA SA in 2004) and I’m pretty sure TLOU2 is the game I’ve replayed the most. I just love too damn much. I’ve finished my last playthrough about a week ago, and I’m currently playing TLOU games back to back! I’m in the winter part in TLOU1. Can’t wait to start TLOU2 right after finishing TLOU1. Playing the previous game for a sequel and jumping right onto the sequel is so fun to me.
This and part 1 are my favourite games of all time. Even after finishing part 2 i still think about it everyday and plan to start playing it again at Christmas. Phenomenal game
1:59 😬 Sry if I'm nit-picking, it don't mean that more players voted Laura bro. All categories except "Player's voice" are decided 90% by the jury which consists of mostly gaming journalists. We can see from the player's voice, aka player's choice category that it was bombarded with Ghost of Tsushima votes, most likely this the same case in other catergories, congrats to GoT. We'll never know what won in the fan-voting that makes up 10% unless the game awards show us. Glad the jury gave tlou2 the love it deserves imo 🔥
The first game meant so much to me as not only a story but as a call to analysis of the more bittersweet elements of the human experience; the second grew to match the caliber of that sentiment in no time at all. To see this game receive so much needless backlash was upsetting, but it’s nice to see it also receive its due recognition. I can’t wait to see how both of these games (and any future games set in the TLoU universe) steep in the coming years and to see what literary analyses can be pulled from them even then. (Speaking of which, thank you again for all the content on this channel! 💚)
My pleasure, Samantha! So glad you're enjoying the content here.
This game left me in a state of shock in the best way possible for a week straight after playing it. It's such a powerfully told story, packed to the brim with bracing twists and turns, and engrossing performances that really add to the heart of the game's complex world and characters. Every little detail that went into making this game as amazing as it turned out to be, was paid off Thursday night. Laura Bailey deserved it, the whole game deserved it. So happy it won :)
From what I can tell, it seems like there were a lot of people who weren’t able to accept Joel’s death, it’s incredible the excuses I’ve heard too. “Well Joel saved Abby from the infected and she then does this to him? She’s a cold blooded killer the end of story,” and were unable to look past it. For the people who could see this as its own story is who was impacted the most.
What this game achieves is standing on its own as an indefinite game, but also very dependent on the first, and I think that’s what all sequels should be. New ways to expand a story, not just rehash the same thing for another time
Really had to use the most emotional music too huh lol too high for these feels, love the vids keep it up
I don't care how much people complain, this is one of the few times I feel a game deserved every award it got. It's so rare to have a game that takes risks and does something different and say something meaningful. ACTUALLY meaningful, not something shallow that looks meaningful on paper. No game has made me think about how people view each other in a time of crisis like this story has, and at such a time where that message is all the more meaningful. It's just such a beautiful game to me. I'm glad to see it get the recognition it deserves, in spite of the controversies.
Last of us 2 is a game that has impacted me like no other game. So glad that it won the game of the year.
It is now the most awarded game of all time...love to see it
not surprised. well deserved.👏👏👏👏👏👏
I enjoyed her parts of the game more then ellies if im honest. And her redemption arc was hard fought.
Brilliant performance.
i think laura winning is similar to when heath won the oscar posthumously , Absolutely deserved but it wasn't just about the performance it was also because of everything she went through this was just a big f you to the haters.
oh yeah 100%. I love Laura and Abby so much. Laura and Ashley both deserve the world
2:25 you know 90% of the counted votes are from critics only 10% are from the player base
Why are critics being treated differently from the fanbase here? If anything, the critics are the ones with the fairer view on the game.
@@OoXLR8oO i dont know
@@thesquidi144 Gamers should never vote. They always change their opinions based off of bored shit talkers and trolls. There's been so many good or amazing games ignored and bashed because they say to never play the game. Years later , people give the game a try and they enjoyed it. They admit that they never gave the game a chance because the community said not to. People like them will always try to ruin something just for their own entertainment
@@shade2987 You can’t prove the reviews are biased and unfair, what am I supposed to think?
@@shade2987 I’m sorry, how and why are the reviewers turning on TLOU2? Because it won Best Direction? An award that has nothing to do with crunch?
I actually invited my friends for a 50$ meal in celebration of this. Best game ever!
That's awesome, Sattam. Where did you guys go?
@@WolfofThorns Shawarma baby!! LOL
@@MGHOoL5 Man, I googled that and that looks so delicious.
11k? Holy shit happy for you
Thank you, Brajan!
It's a gem to find such a high quality channel with awesome videos on my favorite game!
I'm beyond happy that this game took the award home. It deserved it more than anything else I've played this year.
The game awards are 90% decided by critics and outlets. The players have a very minor effect on the outcome.
As much as i enjoyed my time with TLOU2, it shouldn’t have won awards for “best action/adventure,” it’s not a part of that genre. And I would have given GOTY to Ghost of Tsushima.
I attribute the survival of our civilization, hitherto, to soley, this game: The Last of Us Part 2.
I couldn't be prouder........ i'm not crying, you are😪
I just realized something, a pretty big foreshadowing. When Joel and Bill got into his workshop, Bill said something along the lines of "You keep going like this it eventually will blow into your face" and we all know that in the end it did and Bill was right
The Jury counts for 90% of the weight for choosing the winner and the online vote is 10%.
I think Abby should've won but her winning doesn't mean the majority of the online votes voted for her unfortunately.
I platinumed this and still must play it at least once a day it's so amazing!!!
May I ask where is that video at 1:10-1:14 where Neil is looking at gameplay footage of the Last of Part 2 gameplay. Great video dude
I have an hour break at work and I’m about to use it to watch this thank u dad
Edit: so happy she won and I love what you said about how we’re growing with the game and how our opinions are different everytime. The abby part was a million times better on my second run tbh, because the first around, while I was enjoying her, I spent the whole time terrified for Ellie omg. Now I’m on a third play through, cuz like why not
My second time watching this and you still brought me to tears with your words.
You're sweet NayNay
Abby is my fav character next to Ellie.
rip Yara
I liked Abby’s part of the game the most as well.
This was the video I found Wolf, and it’s one of my favorites! I’m so happy if found this in my recommended!!!
Hailey was so shocked by her win her hair turned black.
Totally agree! GOTY had to be Last Of Us 2
I actually just started New Game+ in celebration lol
I wanted to, but then I remembered the depression after finishing the game... gave up! 🤣
I think you are gonna enjoy the second run even more, now that you have more context to everything that happens. I played the first time and it was such a rush of emotions. I wanted to kill Abby so much, then I went full angry whey and Had to play as her ahaha, but then I really liked her and then hated her when having to beat Ellie, oh maaaaaannnnn, what a ride, what a ride!!! when I played the second time (Now on my 6th playthrough lol) made me get a lot more into perspective. The final fight destroyed me because although all of it, I was still leaning more to Ellie, but I just didnt wanna hurt Abby, that final fight I did in tears, just thinking, dont do it Ellie, dont do it please! What a fucking game, what a game, LOVE IT!
@@duncanb.a.s2886 oh man!!! You're making me wanna play even more! I'm going to give in! 🤣🤣🤣
This game portrays humanity and life so perfectly. Glad to see everyone who contributed to this game being recognized.
I could not agree more on both counts, David.
there are a lot of people who were against The Last Of Us 2 being GOTY but THAT DOESN'T MATTER anyway because I'm certain the percentage of people who loved the game is higher than the people who hate it.
The haters are just very loud
Every single person I know irl who played it loved the game. I'm not saying the haters are real obviously, but yeah they're just louder
@@dog8438 and annoying.
I think it's 60% haters because eveywhere I go there are more people hating on the game than liking it.
I mean, the most popular UA-camrs and influencers like Pewdiepie, AngryJoe, xQc, Tyler1 really despised the game... so I think we are in the minority
@@jadenraywilliams8586 I watched Jacksepticeye play it he enjoyed the HELL out of it.
Haunting, gorgeous and brilliant. Loved this game! LOU3! I love the Ellie and Abby narrative. ❤️
The game was worthy of an Emmy nomination (30 hours of gameplay is equal to 3 seasons of GOT). Life imitates art... Love of the game triumphed over the hate. I laugh in the face of the immature idiots who tried desperately hard to poison the experience.
The second part is the best game i ever played, and i will be happy for last of us part 3 but i don’t want anny lev or abby
I liked em but i would like much more if ellie do stuff cause she’s iconic for it now
I don't see the point in getting angry over GOTY there's a voting jury who ultimately makes the call on who wins, not the players so it's hardly an accurate representation of what actual players think. Ghost of Tsushima won the players voice which is 100% of the players choice for the best game with 0 outside influence so I'm not bothered. The people who are still railing on this game seriously need to stop and shut up the majority of us made our deduction thought it was ok to not good and moved on.
Many different publications and shows exist besides The Game Awards. Players' choice awards are pretty common among them all. Ghost of Tsushima won 8 of those awards including the one at The Game Awards. The Last of Us 2 is currently sitting at 76.
The game deserved every award it got, I'm so happy it pulled through!
Don't want to start a fight but I wouldn't say every award. Game Direction is definitely a no, audio design is decent but not half life or Doom Eternal good, best narrative is personally a no for me but the story is talked about so damn much that I can't be surprised. And as for game of the year, I'd have rather seen multiple other games win it.
Best accessibility options is very well deserved for the last of us and I'm happy for Laura Baileys win too
@@lukefitton7329 Fair enough, if that's ur opinion.... even though its FUCKING WRONG!!!! JK man dw I'm not that guy XD
@@shiiche thanks for understanding, there are too many toxic haters and fans of this game tbh
@@lukefitton7329 let me tell you why the game won game direction.
1) It was one of those games that added incredible amount of detail to every setting.
2) the game mechanics are so good and extremely detailed it's only rivaled by RDR 2. Think about the rope physics or weapon upgrades.
3) The mo-cap technology they used were outstanding. I have never seen a game where the characters in the game can be mistaken for real life people.
4) It's story direction was quite unique, make you play as a character who you hated at first but eventually make you like her. I know this doesn't apply to us all but this was an achievement on its own.
5) Accessibility options in this game is mind-blowing. No game has even come close to this.
6) multiple difficulty settings.
When you consider what this game did that most other games do not, it is not surprising it won the awards for Direction.
@@akramhossain4678 in terms of accessibility I agree, narrative is agree to disagree but I dont want to get into that, sound design had a lot of audio taken from the previous game and I just think that other games were more creative with the sound, abby is suitable for best VA performance, game direction is my big problem. I've no respect for Neil really due to his controversies, arrogance, and in some cases begging for sales and love for the game.
But even though I wasn't a big fan of the narrative, it did take a brave route which is impressive.
So.... Who's going to tell him about the 10%
Maybe the ones who can also tell him about the other awards... completion ratio, and so on...
@@sandrobsnake Why don't you tell us about that?
@@ElShmiablo I guess I could... but you have google... So you should search for TLOU2 awards based on gamers choice. The other statistics are based on PS4 stats... I´m more of a guy who plays the game... Nothing besides that is important to me.
I thought the story sucked by the end, but the game overall was good and I liked it. The sound design, accessibility and Abby's VA's award were 100% deserved imho
Funny thing is: I didn't find the first game to be all that special.
(Long read ahead, you've been warned)
Doesn't mean that I thought it was bad game, just that, the amount of people calling it a masterpiece and the greatest video-game ever made seemed a tad bit ridiculous, and I personally believed it to be a massive overinflation of the quality of an otherwise good-at-best game. The characters were good, the performances were great, and the overall story was solid and decently paced, but the gameplay and crafting I found to be... very lacking, to say the least, not to mention the AI of the enemies, which were quite frankly terrible and clearly needed a lot more polish, even for the time.
I'm one of those guys who thinks that, in a video-game, the gameplay should always be the main priority, reason as to why I found Part I of The Last of Us a very decent game, and only that at most...
...Though, when the trailer for Part II dropped back in 2016, and I saw Ellie playing that guitar amidst the blood and fresh corpses of what we thought at the time to be the remaining fireflies, I couldn't help myself but wonder what had brought her to such situation, and naturally I became curious as to what the second entry in the franchise was going to do with its narrative, and how it would meet the fans' expectations after the nigh-impossibly high rated first game. Same thing happened with the second trailer in 2017, which featured Abby (Whom at the moment of its release, a lot of us presumed she would end up being Ellie's mother, and that she was running away from a cult, dear Lord Almighty, how wrong we were). And again, the same happened with the third trailer that was released during E3 2018. The night in which I watched that trailer, I still remember vividly: The mountainous regions of central México are quite an altitude above the sea, so it gets cold as a stone when it rains, but that night, it was hailing. I had just finished studying for finals, so I decided that I would spend the final hours of the night tucked and covered in bed against the cold, watching the remaining announcements of E3. And there he was, Gustavo Santaolalla, the genius behind the TLOU soundtrack as well as other renowned movies, playing the beautiful Banjo. I don't know why, but from that moment, I knew the presentation was going to be good. The trailer featured a much more dynamic, fluid and cinematic gameplay, that looked like a lot of fun and featured different approaches in combat, and even though it didn't seem to be that different from the first one, it was clear that ND had put some effort into upgrading the gameplay, and having recently played Uncharted 4, I got excited for the first time about a Naughty Dog game. I had expectations for it to be a GOOD game.
Fast forward to July of this year 2020, the leaks come out, the internet is on fire and Naughty Dog is acting desperately to take down all content related to TLOU II, and with good reason. I could not contain my curiosity and saw the leaks, man, I was, to put it simply, baffled, how the heck could they do this to their own beloved characters? Joel, beaten to death like a dog and Ellie defeated in combat by the same woman who murdered him. Wow. I lost interest. I wasn't going to play that garbage, the trailers were too good to live up to expectations.
But two weeks ago, after I had already forgotten about all the drama, I decided. "Screw it, let's give it a try", since I had nothing else important to do honestly.
It took me approximately three days to beat the game. When the credits rolled on my screen and "Wayfaring Stranger" started playing, I stood there, cold, open-mouthed in awe of what I had just experienced. It was almost sunrise, yet I craved no sleep, and I didn't know how to feel about myself.
This goddamn game made me feel things no other had. I wanted Ellie to have her revenge, but I also wanted Abby to survive and protect Lev. I couldn't watch when Abby nearly killed Ellie with her bare-hands, but I also understood her reasons behind all of it. I was angry at Ellie for leaving Tommy to die, but I also felt happy for her when I saw her in that farm with Dina. I hated Abby for torturing Joel, yet I understood the pain of her loss. They got me to care about every character as if I knew them myself. And I wanted to protect them. But I also felt conflicted and I didn't know who I ultimately sided with, and even two weeks later, I'm still not sure if I do.
The last song still gives me nightmares. I seriously want to believe that Ellie got a somewhat happy ending and went back to Jackson, but who knows. I'm glad Abby made it to Catalina island with Lev, the research for the cure will probably proceed there. (Here's hoping for Part III).
TL;DR: I waited three and a half years for this game in hopes of it being GOOD, but it was more than that, it was EXCELLENT, a testament of the capacity of storytelling in gaming and a well-deserved GAME OF THE YEAR. Having played the sequel, I see the first game in a different light, and I'm fairly sure I will enjoy it more than I did the first time, and I'll eventually return to it. Who would've thought it would take me 7 years to truly appreciate linear story-telling in gaming, and it's all thanks to The Last of Us Part II.
Peace.
Thank you for sharing your truly powerful and elemental experience with us, K-LA-K. I am very happy that you were able to jack into the pulse of the game and experience things you had never experienced before, especially for someone that once believed the gameplay should trump everything, including the narrative (which I hold as sacred in all things and our *true* connection to divinity.) Seriously, thank you for sharing this.
@@WolfofThorns Jesus Christ, I didn't think anyone would read this haha, thank you for taking the time of the day to look at my pseudo-essay. Your content is good man, keep doing what you do.
@@k-la-k6828 Thank you and will do!
God I love this game.
❤️
Well deserved I truly love this game the story is genuinely beautiful and the game is beautiful I'm so glad it got game of the year
This game is just depression, with guns. And I love it. It's a shame that this game proved how disgusting people can be. Looking at the AntiSJW Incels who attacked the game developers with death threats because if a video game.
I still cry with that final😢
This is just Masterpiece. NO WORDS CAN DESCRIBE THIS GAME . NO MOVIE IS AT PAR WITH THIS WONDERFUL PIECE OF ART
TLOU2 DEFINATELY DESERVED THIS AWARD!It's a beautiful game with a lot of meaning and it actually challenges our personality.None game has ever brought me those emotions and Ashley and Laura did a phenomenal work!Yeah sure Ashley nailed it ,but Laura did actually deserved this award not only for the hate she receirved, but also for her stunning performance!In the beginning Abby makes you angry and selfish wanting to end her for what she did,but when u see HER actual personality u see the amazing job that Laura did by bringing a hateful character to a beloved(for me) character who I cared a lot and I totally understand her perspective!As much easy as it sounds IT'S NOT!Congrats Naughty Dog you did an outstanding job!♥Well done also to u wolf for the great video.
I'll admit that I wasn't a big fan of this game myself, nor was I a big fan of abby's character but I was very happy for Laura Baileys win. Especially since some salty guys on twitter threatened her life just because of the death of Joel which is pretty pathetic.
I would love to see a video talking about how this got GotY while Ghost of Tsushima got Player’s choice. This game brought us fully into the story while GoT brought us into the world.
Hi wolf! Do you know the Guardian song by Shawn James? It's a song featured in the game meant to represent Ellie's thoughts and feelings through the end part (you can see the lyrics in Ellie's notebook when she's at the Farm, before the final mission with Abby starts). I would love to hear your anaylisis about the song, it's absolutely beautiful if you could share us your opinions. Thank you Wolf for the amazing content ❤
Thanks, Radya. I'll keep that in mind!
Im so happy for Laura winning Best Performance but personally I was really pulling for Ashley
It’s a dream come true 😁😁
This has become the most awarded game ever, beating Witcher three back in 2015
The story was terrible and left every character we love either dead or broken , and force feed us Abby . Gameplay was good tho
A divisive masterpiece.
This video made my face leak (in the best way possible)! 💜 Congrats to all of the brilliant artists and supportive players who dared to broaden their minds and hearts!
No! Not a leaking face, though that condition should be no stranger to us TLOU fans. Talk about an emotional journey both within and without the game, am i right? And, yes, I am very happy for everyone at Naughty Dog's recognition, from the artist and animators and sound guys to, of course, our beloved performers and writers.
Hey Wolf!
I really like watching your videos. This game and its predecessor have a tight grip on my mind and heart and I love watching videos like yours that show appreciation for the beauty that can be found in these two stories - especially Part 2, which can be very challenging at times. Congrats to Naughty Dog for this win!
Now, I've noticed a little mistake in this video. You said that the awards that were given out on December 10th were solely voted by the players, which is not correct. The winners at TGA are determined by a blended vote between the voting jury, which is accounted for 90% and players, whos votes are accounted for 10%.
The only gaming awards that are solely voted for by players are The Golden Joystick Awards, where TLOUP2 was also showered with awards.
A satisfaction in the shitty year 2020 has been. Now Naughty Dog don’t rest on this and work hard to make Part 3 even better.
I received Part II for Christmas and finished it a few days ago. I went in fully aware of both the praise and the condemnation. Personally, I don’t believe either of those two extremes are fair. Part II is a masterpiece in regards to performance, score, and accessibility, but for me, the story, plot, and character development was a dud. It was all far too lackluster.
The game failed to make me care about Abby, Lev, and the rest of the Seattle characters like I care about the Jackson characters, or the characters from the original game. If some key elements of the narrative had been different, perhaps I would have had a more emotional play through.
I see so many people talking about the emotional impact Part II had on them, and while I’m glad they enjoyed their experience, I sometimes wonder if we played the same game. I truly understand what Naughty Dog was going for, and I respect the risk they took, but I don’t think this is the type of risk you take with a title like TLOU.
Honestly though, Part II feels like the middle to a beginning and an ending, so I hope one day soon Part III is announced 🤞🏻
In my view, an artist should never compromise their vision for money or to pander to any audience expectations. The best environment we could ever hope to inhabit is a place where a creator feels free to tell the story they feel passionate about, without compromise and without holding back. As an audience, player, experiencer, you like what you like and you don't like what you don't like. At the end of the day, some art will resonate with you and some won't. This is the way things have always been and the way they should always be.
@@WolfofThorns In short, I agree! One of the reasons I love and respect Naughty Dog is because they don’t pander to the player or their audience. The hatred they’ve received due to that is astronomical. Artists should have free rein to tell the stories they want to tell. No matter if it is or isn’t what the fans want to see or play.