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I quit smoking in April. My car is in the bodyshop for bumpers, rocker panels, and wheels, plus various touch-ups. That's my gift to myself for stopping a horribly expensive habit. My doctor actually recommended something expensive enough to make sure I stayed smoke free. I was unlikely to live to see 2024 without immediate action to quit.
I've got a pre face lift 2013 e 350. Magnificent vehicle it's an avantgarde, so real leather. I've put 18 inch mercedes rims on it. Looks great. Love it
I own a w212 e350 2010 . Had it for years and no issues the cars been reliable . It has 155059 klm on the clock . I perform an oil change and full inspection every 6000 klm . I love the quad head light assembly and along with the body lines witch the w211 / w210 were lacking .
I purchased an E-class 350D in 2008, the previous owners was a German mechanic. I had some coolant issues and serviced well to stock condition. after that I got it serviced every 6-months and there was a AC compressor which i got it replaced, apart from that, I used it as a daily commute and bringing foreign delegates but even today its running like proper Mercedes. Finally I bought the latest E-class which is way more advanced. I have kept the old one as a memory
Does look better, but these were the years when mercedes tried to keep up with volkswagen and bmw in terms of car sales numbers and qualit, did go down compared to previous models, interior of w212 doesnt feel as premium as the w211 one, there were issues with air suspension and in general suffered from mercedes policy to push out cars from production line faster, post facelift models did put bigger emphasis on quality and post facelift w212 has placed itself as one of the most reliable cars ever built. Its an exceptional car which had some of its early production flaws ironed out.
Driving a 220 cdi Estate from 2011, for 4 years now. Bought it with 110k miles on the clock for E15k..without gurantee. Very happy ride! Soon after buying had the car running in limp mode for 2 months due to little plastic turbo valve problem. My local free garage could not solve it, and gave the car back without charging anything, the local Ford garage did it for a few 100 E! Replaced leaking air suspension bladders E170 from Amazon in the back myself. Changed brake disks all around myself, materials ca. E250. Had diesel filter error, took the thing out, soaked & cl;eaned. Engine check light came back soon. But the exhaust gas easily passes Euro 5 specs every year. So, no more dpf cleaning/replacement until really needed! 40k miles driven.... Happy camper& engine light on forever!
I like my 2012 wagon. Its not cheap to keep in top shape. 250 CDI. Purchased new, had subframe replaced on warranty last year, everything working properly.
In the UK the policy is for the rear subframe to be replaced by Mercedes under goodwill as long as no modifications or repair attempts are made beforehand I've owned the 6.2l with performance pack (including LSD) and facelift E63s rwd. They're quite different cars. The steering is much lighter on the facelfit being electrohydraulic but firms up on heavy driving , the prefacelift has heavier steering by default. The facelift is more accurate and refined. The leather interior in the facelift is of significantly higher spec with nappa leather and better trim but it may be possible to get a leather pack on the pre. The facelift can come with a 360 camera and auto start stop. Also the driving behaviour of the facelift is more refined and has intelligent led lighting. Overall both great choices .
I have a 2011 E250 CDI, had it for 3 and a bit years. Things of note: 1) DO NOT take the car in to Mercedes for a recall regarding an update to the ECU. Not a mistake I made, but others reported awful reductions in MPG after the update so DO NOT do it. 2) If the car goes into limp mode and gives error codes regarding DPF or soot, use "Wynn's Diesel Particulate Filter Cleaner" fluid in the fuel tank. If that doesn't work it could just be the differential pressure sensor for the DFP needs replacing so try that before other more drastic DFP repairs/removal. 3) There is a common problem with the rear subframe of the car suffering excessive rusting/corrosion. I have been lucky. Lifetime guarentee on it but must be taken into a main dealer to have the work done, I think they replace the whole part. 4) Be in the habit of swapping the rear tyres for the front ones to balance the wear on the tyres. Otherwise the rear tyres if left on the back will begin to wear a lot quicker than the front ones in my experience. 5) The car will not do an automatic DPF regen if the fuel low warning light is on, so always keep the car topped up as if the car misses a few regen cycles it could give you an issue with the DPF.
I have the facelift and I love it a lot! What an epic car, 1 billion for a facelift?! 😅 But the rear subframe rust is annoying, it's supposedly under extended warranty for 20 years. But the dealers just won't change it unless it's broken or about to collapse. Mercedes is fully ignoring customers on that issue.
W212 My rear subframe failed due rust, a known fault on the Es and Cs Mercedes replaced it free of charge , however they managed to charge me £1200 for four road springs and rear brake lines, since they replaced these items the car sit nose down, and they tell me nothing to do with them ! Other problems are rusted rear brake disc covers again an expensive item to replace and i also had a blown manifold its made of plastic and is a common fault its a big job to replace, non merc garages will charge around £1000. I get silly messages and parking assist fails at times. I also own a 1990 R129 300 SL, the quality of the car is far better than the E class. My next move will be to the S class W222. A glutton for punishment me thinks ! Anyone can buy a used Mercedes running one is an entirely different matter and costly.
I had both the 2013 e class 550 4 matic and the 2012 audi S6...I prefer the sport handling and superb comfort of the audi, it's substantially better than the benz...however that e class facelifting still appear solid inside and out after more than 10 years...way better than the pre-facelifting
looking at the e class as i just bought a small hatchback which really isn't doing it for me. and the looks of these are so good but i was worried as i had a c180 which was serviced and had no issue then the engine blew up costing alot, leaving me concerned about these but i should be mostly alright looking at the 300 model right?
I had a 2012 pre facelift E220CDI Estate and a 2018 E220CDI Estate. The W212 was the vastly superior car, better ride, better finish, nicer interior just better in every way. The only issue i had was sacrificial corrosion of the rear suspension top mounts; both sides failed (shattered) at around 4 years and 50k miles. I now have a 2022 CLA Shooting brake - least said about that the better, pale imitation of a Mercedes.
@@mohammedshaji9785 My W212 2012, E350 Diesel has 290,000 km and is running perfect. The engine drives perfectly. there are a small number of minor faults. but invest in OBD reader and check up on it every now and then, Suspension and steering is perfect! She still drives like a new car.
Hi, It's a 2.1, this is the down to the different databases' interpretation of cubic capacity,, the OM651 is 2143cc. On my old system, this shows correctly as a 2.1, the same as you may see on a car sales site like Autotrader. On manufacturer databases, it varies, many round up, so a 2099cc is a 2.1, but a 2101cc shows as 2.2. Some manufacturers always round up, others always round down, and Mercedes mix, so the 63AMG model E-Class is a 6.3, even though it is actually the M156 engine with 6208cc, meaning following the same rule it is a 6.2. Makes it harder to remember what rule I should follow throughout a script. Hope it clears up the confusion 👍
Own a 2014 E220CDI sold in Sweden. 170000km, one owner and good service history. Cracked plastic seat despite not very hot climate. Corosion on rear suspension but not severe.
How about post face-lift and pre airbag modules becoming un-calibrated and all airbags then stop working. Expensive repair to have them recalibrate at the Mercedes service centers. Causes a well depreciated vehicle to be driven without working airbags. You would think Mercedes would fix that safety issue. They recalled some airbag related issues in some models. The coup and other models. Would a 7 year old Lexus' airbags stop working? No. (The pluralization of Lexus is Lexuses. This was possessive. ;) The car is unsafe and 1/8 the price of the car is required to recalibrate the airbag modules on their "official Mercedes certified weight machine.". Oooh, very expensive.
Can't you get it done at a specialist garage? Also, let not compare Toyota to Mercedes. Let's not forget WW2. You can put 4 bodies in the trunk of Mercedes. I bet that Toyota can't do that. Let me know if you wanna speak to the manager.
@reubinthomas Let's not forget WW2. The Japanese, the Italians and the Germans. Not to mention Henry Ford. ..that POS. All hands are dirty. You buy a Mercedes for reliability. It's also why I don't want to fix this at rhe dealership. I don't want to give them money. Although, they are in Alabama or whatever and employ many many many "Americans". The problem is, they have to be a certified Mercedes technician and have this 100s of thousands of dollar calibration machine. The real question is...Why do the airbags go? The I'll be screwing around under my front passemger seat. It's usually a module/wire that gets knocked loose. How many fancy Mercedes owners know how to fix their engines or root around under seats for wires? Answer is - Almost none.
@fasttrackblastback8286 I know this. I'm still driving a W212 that requires 2000 dollars to recalibrate on their 200,000 dollar machine or whatever. They have faulty passenger seat modules and all airbags don't work, if one is faulty. How is that legal and not coveted by Mercedes? The car was about 5 years old when I bought it. Dealership screwed me. Said it was nothing on the test drive and broke the rear tailight and refused to pay, until I gave them photo evidence of it broken before buying. It's not like the thin UV protection lawsuit on their wood. Ahh..wood.
I am a V70 D5 ( 2011) driver and very complient with my car. In the run for a nice S212 E350cdi but every vain in my body tells me: keep the Volvo you stupid idiot! And I think it might be wise. The V70 is the better car, especially in terms of motor power, weight, monthly cost etc. If you check the measurements the only benefit is that the booty cargo space of the E-class is bigger than the V70 but thats it. The inner measurements front space and width at the back seats, the V70 wins. Also the height of the loading platform/bumper is little bit higher than the Benz. The whole car is higher than the Benz and thus more practical. I always had the feeling and idea that the S212 was significantly bigger that the latest V70 generation, but that is simply not the case....Volvo did a damn pretty good job contesting cars like the E-class and BMW 5-series, cheaper to buy and less known issues on the 5-cilinder models. I swear to the 5-cilinder engines😊
@@StudioMargalimaThe 2011 Volvo D5 has 205 horses/420 Nm's of torque, while the 2011 M-B 350 CDI pumps out 265 horses/620 Nm's. The Benz is in its own league there, not that the Volvo is bad. It just can't keep up. I really like the engine in my 2011 V70 D5 AWD, and it's factory tuned by Polestar (225-230 horses/460-470 Nm's) but right now I'm looking for a 2015 E 250 CDI 4Matic instead. I'd like a 350 CDI, but they're super rare.
Could anyone in here help? im looking at an W212 pre-fl E250 1.8CGI with 7speed. and was torn between the this and E300 with 3.0 v6. In terms of long term maintenance which is best
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I quit smoking in April. My car is in the bodyshop for bumpers, rocker panels, and wheels, plus various touch-ups. That's my gift to myself for stopping a horribly expensive habit. My doctor actually recommended something expensive enough to make sure I stayed smoke free. I was unlikely to live to see 2024 without immediate action to quit.
Nice I have a friend who quit the habit and had a lot more money now and lower blood pressure etc better health overall. Stay off the smokes
Well done and don’t go back to the smokes.
Congratulations! Proud of you!
It's good to have you still with us 😊
Great comment and congratulations! We quit smoking and bought a Polaris Slingshot with the savings. Cheers.
Pre facelift w212 is one of my favorite looking cars! It’s such a shame how this generation of MB looked so good and the new ones look terrible.
Agreed 😁 Well cared for W212's still look prestigious to us, something about the understated styling that has aged so well
I've got a pre face lift 2013 e 350. Magnificent vehicle it's an avantgarde, so real leather. I've put 18 inch mercedes rims on it. Looks great. Love it
I agree after w212 = terrible
I think both of these look good it's when they started curving the back end it just became a bigger C class but a smaller S class
I think the final refresh is the best
The facelift and pre-facelift wagons are just so beautiful! Wow!
I own a w212 e350 2010 . Had it for years and no issues the cars been reliable . It has 155059 klm on the clock . I perform an oil change and full inspection every 6000 klm . I love the quad head light assembly and along with the body lines witch the w211 / w210 were lacking .
I purchased an E-class 350D in 2008, the previous owners was a German mechanic. I had some coolant issues and serviced well to stock condition. after that I got it serviced every 6-months and there was a AC compressor which i got it replaced, apart from that, I used it as a daily commute and bringing foreign delegates but even today its running like proper Mercedes. Finally I bought the latest E-class which is way more advanced. I have kept the old one as a memory
The pre facelift W212 looks like a proper Mercedes.
Does look better, but these were the years when mercedes tried to keep up with volkswagen and bmw in terms of car sales numbers and qualit, did go down compared to previous models, interior of w212 doesnt feel as premium as the w211 one, there were issues with air suspension and in general suffered from mercedes policy to push out cars from production line faster, post facelift models did put bigger emphasis on quality and post facelift w212 has placed itself as one of the most reliable cars ever built.
Its an exceptional car which had some of its early production flaws ironed out.
Driving a 220 cdi Estate from 2011, for 4 years now. Bought it with 110k miles on the clock for E15k..without gurantee. Very happy ride! Soon after buying had the car running in limp mode for 2 months due to little plastic turbo valve problem. My local free garage could not solve it, and gave the car back without charging anything, the local Ford garage did it for a few 100 E! Replaced leaking air suspension bladders E170 from Amazon in the back myself. Changed brake disks all around myself, materials ca. E250. Had diesel filter error, took the thing out, soaked & cl;eaned. Engine check light came back soon. But the exhaust gas easily passes Euro 5 specs every year. So, no more dpf cleaning/replacement until really needed! 40k miles driven.... Happy camper& engine light on forever!
There is an E400 with a turbo v6 3.0.. arguably the most balanced engine of the series but it seems to be available only in certain markets.
We just bought one, yay, so I'm so happy to read this comment. Twin turbo.
I own a E500 coupe from 2010. It,s a dream!! Powerful and comfortable. And at least, a wonderful designed car..
I like my 2012 wagon. Its not cheap to keep in top shape. 250 CDI. Purchased new, had subframe replaced on warranty last year, everything working properly.
Great to hear yours is still in top condition 😁
Why did you have to replace the sub frame? Was it accidental or rust?
I'm planning to get a face-lift 250 cdi.
I had the rear subframe replaced on mine recently too under warranty 2012 (62) e220 se in grey. 87k on the clock.
Anything with the M276 or M278 is solid. Good video mate
Great video! Looking to get a pre-facelift at 120k miles. This video will be very helpful.
Great to hear and all the best looking for your next car 👍
In the UK the policy is for the rear subframe to be replaced by Mercedes under goodwill as long as no modifications or repair attempts are made beforehand
I've owned the 6.2l with performance pack (including LSD) and facelift E63s rwd. They're quite different cars. The steering is much lighter on the facelfit being electrohydraulic but firms up on heavy driving , the prefacelift has heavier steering by default. The facelift is more accurate and refined. The leather interior in the facelift is of significantly higher spec with nappa leather and better trim but it may be possible to get a leather pack on the pre. The facelift can come with a 360 camera and auto start stop.
Also the driving behaviour of the facelift is more refined and has intelligent led lighting. Overall both great choices .
Excellent useful buyers information. Thanks lots.
Very thorough, detailed and logical. Thanks a lot!
220 CDI from 2011 is literally immortal!
J have e 250 2011 avangarde with 320000. Automatic,wagon. Everything is great,j love it. Service B when needed and drive. Hello from Serbia
Great to hear that your Mercedes running smooth and that we have people watching in Serbia, all the best 😁
What is your average fuel economy?
@@CosminDogaru997 On high way 4,5,6,7 liters. In city 7,8. Sorry for my English, hello from Serbia
204 hp,500 nm
I have a 2011 E250 CDI, had it for 3 and a bit years. Things of note: 1) DO NOT take the car in to Mercedes for a recall regarding an update to the ECU. Not a mistake I made, but others reported awful reductions in MPG after the update so DO NOT do it. 2) If the car goes into limp mode and gives error codes regarding DPF or soot, use "Wynn's Diesel Particulate Filter Cleaner" fluid in the fuel tank. If that doesn't work it could just be the differential pressure sensor for the DFP needs replacing so try that before other more drastic DFP repairs/removal. 3) There is a common problem with the rear subframe of the car suffering excessive rusting/corrosion. I have been lucky. Lifetime guarentee on it but must be taken into a main dealer to have the work done, I think they replace the whole part. 4) Be in the habit of swapping the rear tyres for the front ones to balance the wear on the tyres. Otherwise the rear tyres if left on the back will begin to wear a lot quicker than the front ones in my experience. 5) The car will not do an automatic DPF regen if the fuel low warning light is on, so always keep the car topped up as if the car misses a few regen cycles it could give you an issue with the DPF.
I have the facelift and I love it a lot! What an epic car, 1 billion for a facelift?! 😅
But the rear subframe rust is annoying, it's supposedly under extended warranty for 20 years. But the dealers just won't change it unless it's broken or about to collapse. Mercedes is fully ignoring customers on that issue.
W212 My rear subframe failed due rust, a known fault on the Es and Cs Mercedes replaced it free of charge , however they managed to charge me £1200 for four road springs and rear brake lines, since they replaced these items the car sit nose down, and they tell me nothing to do with them ! Other problems are rusted rear brake disc covers again an expensive item to replace and i also had a blown manifold its made of plastic and is a common fault its a big job to replace, non merc garages will charge around £1000. I get silly messages and parking assist fails at times.
I also own a 1990 R129 300 SL, the quality of the car is far better than the E class. My next move will be to the S class W222. A glutton for punishment me thinks ! Anyone can buy a used Mercedes running one is an entirely different matter and costly.
How is M274 with a manual?(Facelift E200)?
The best or nothing ! Used to be like that. Many years ago.
I had both the 2013 e class 550 4 matic and the 2012 audi S6...I prefer the sport handling and superb comfort of the audi, it's substantially better than the benz...however that e class facelifting still appear solid inside and out after more than 10 years...way better than the pre-facelifting
Thanks for sharing your experience with these cars and competitors 👍
looking at the e class as i just bought a small hatchback which really isn't doing it for me. and the looks of these are so good but i was worried as i had a c180 which was serviced and had no issue then the engine blew up costing alot, leaving me concerned about these but i should be mostly alright looking at the 300 model right?
I had a 2012 pre facelift E220CDI Estate and a 2018 E220CDI Estate. The W212 was the vastly superior car, better ride, better finish, nicer interior just better in every way.
The only issue i had was sacrificial corrosion of the rear suspension top mounts; both sides failed (shattered) at around 4 years and 50k miles.
I now have a 2022 CLA Shooting brake - least said about that the better, pale imitation of a Mercedes.
Any significant difference between the e350 2011 and 2012 in terms of engine and performance??
What about B. class?
I like to know if buying a 180,000 km millage car is a good buy?
Obviously it depends, but 180000km for this mercedes is basically nothing. I've personally seen a W212 350 in really good shape at 800000km
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@@mohammedshaji9785 My W212 2012, E350 Diesel has 290,000 km and is running perfect. The engine drives perfectly. there are a small number of minor faults. but invest in OBD reader and check up on it every now and then, Suspension and steering is perfect! She still drives like a new car.
@@GamestarsBulgaria800k?? That's a lot of milage.
When did Mercedes have a 2.2 diesel engine? I know for sure they have a 2.1 liter turbo diesel.
Hi, It's a 2.1, this is the down to the different databases' interpretation of cubic capacity,, the OM651 is 2143cc. On my old system, this shows correctly as a 2.1, the same as you may see on a car sales site like Autotrader. On manufacturer databases, it varies, many round up, so a 2099cc is a 2.1, but a 2101cc shows as 2.2. Some manufacturers always round up, others always round down, and Mercedes mix, so the 63AMG model E-Class is a 6.3, even though it is actually the M156 engine with 6208cc, meaning following the same rule it is a 6.2. Makes it harder to remember what rule I should follow throughout a script. Hope it clears up the confusion 👍
Found a 2016 w212 e200 petrol engine automatic gear with 89k km. It's clean, and I wanted to see if there is any specific concern to consider.
You've got the best deal my friend!
Is a 120.000miles considered as high milage?
Yes
No..
Hell yeah
@@seeum2098 not for 2011 mercedes benz...
Kinda i guess it depends on the model
How to fell down the back sits when you want buy a table
Own a 2014 E220CDI sold in Sweden. 170000km, one owner and good service history. Cracked plastic seat despite not very hot climate. Corosion on rear suspension but not severe.
Just got an E350 2012 with 133k kilometres on it. It has a check engine light. What seems to be the issue?
chain issues are huge and mandatory. the engine out, the bill is yuge
Wow, MB for 80k 2013 made a decent car 😂😂😂
How about post face-lift and pre airbag modules becoming un-calibrated and all airbags then stop working. Expensive repair to have them recalibrate at the Mercedes service centers. Causes a well depreciated vehicle to be driven without working airbags. You would think Mercedes would fix that safety issue. They recalled some airbag related issues in some models. The coup and other models. Would a 7 year old Lexus' airbags stop working? No. (The pluralization of Lexus is Lexuses. This was possessive. ;) The car is unsafe and 1/8 the price of the car is required to recalibrate the airbag modules on their "official Mercedes certified weight machine.". Oooh, very expensive.
Can't you get it done at a specialist garage?
Also, let not compare Toyota to Mercedes. Let's not forget WW2. You can put 4 bodies in the trunk of Mercedes. I bet that Toyota can't do that.
Let me know if you wanna speak to the manager.
@reubinthomas Let's not forget WW2. The Japanese, the Italians and the Germans. Not to mention Henry Ford.
..that POS. All hands are dirty. You buy a Mercedes for reliability. It's also why I don't want to fix this at rhe dealership. I don't want to give them money. Although, they are in Alabama or whatever and employ many many many "Americans". The problem is, they have to be a certified Mercedes technician and have this 100s of thousands of dollar calibration machine. The real question is...Why do the airbags go? The I'll be screwing around under my front passemger seat. It's usually a module/wire that gets knocked loose. How many fancy Mercedes owners know how to fix their engines or root around under seats for wires? Answer is - Almost none.
I have a w169 and they recalled those for drivers airbag fault. Give it a couple more years for people to make serious claims and they will recall.
@fasttrackblastback8286 I know this. I'm still driving a W212 that requires 2000 dollars to recalibrate on their 200,000 dollar machine or whatever. They have faulty passenger seat modules and all airbags don't work, if one is faulty. How is that legal and not coveted by Mercedes? The car was about 5 years old when I bought it. Dealership screwed me. Said it was nothing on the test drive and broke the rear tailight and refused to pay, until I gave them photo evidence of it broken before buying. It's not like the thin UV protection lawsuit on their wood. Ahh..wood.
I am a V70 D5 ( 2011) driver and very complient with my car. In the run for a nice S212 E350cdi but every vain in my body tells me: keep the Volvo you stupid idiot! And I think it might be wise. The V70 is the better car, especially in terms of motor power, weight, monthly cost etc. If you check the measurements the only benefit is that the booty cargo space of the E-class is bigger than the V70 but thats it. The inner measurements front space and width at the back seats, the V70 wins. Also the height of the loading platform/bumper is little bit higher than the Benz. The whole car is higher than the Benz and thus more practical. I always had the feeling and idea that the S212 was significantly bigger that the latest V70 generation, but that is simply not the case....Volvo did a damn pretty good job contesting cars like the E-class and BMW 5-series, cheaper to buy and less known issues on the 5-cilinder models. I swear to the 5-cilinder engines😊
I would expect a 350 CDI have a higher motorpower especially in terms of torque? Yes, a V70 has about 400 nm, but still...?
There both good cars, no need to change for an equal match.
@@StudioMargalimaThe 2011 Volvo D5 has 205 horses/420 Nm's of torque, while the 2011 M-B 350 CDI pumps out 265 horses/620 Nm's. The Benz is in its own league there, not that the Volvo is bad. It just can't keep up.
I really like the engine in my 2011 V70 D5 AWD, and it's factory tuned by Polestar (225-230 horses/460-470 Nm's) but right now I'm looking for a 2015 E 250 CDI 4Matic instead. I'd like a 350 CDI, but they're super rare.
I have a 2013 E 350 with 55000 on the Clock,oil cooler appears to be leaking,has anyone else had this issue
It is a very common problem with this car.
منحنيه للأمام زياده عن اللزوم وشكلها ليس جيدا"
Good lord is this an anti Mercedes review. 🤔
Could anyone in here help?
im looking at an W212 pre-fl E250 1.8CGI with 7speed. and was torn between the this and E300 with 3.0 v6.
In terms of long term maintenance which is best