Rachel: "You choose your mindset, you are able to control your mindset!" Also Rachel: Chooses to get offended by someone calling her privileged and destroys her whole career in one tiktok.
You know who else works hard? The housekeeper. She manages to clean strangers homes all day and then she goes home and cleans her own house and takes care of her own family. This whole reasoning is stupid. The economy doesn't work if everyone follows their dreams. Hollis isn't rich because she worked hard, she's rich because she's been lucky.
This. It can be compared to the amount of talented singers there are in this world. Do they all become famous? No. Are there some singers who are more talented than some current famous singers now? Of course. Does that mean they aren’t talented, no. They didn’t catch their big break, that’s all. I’m sure there are plenty of people who are we hardworking if not more than her and will never become millionaires.
Very lucky because she doesnt have any true respectable talent. She married money, gave BS talks at mlm conventions, projected she had the keys to a successful marriage and just common knowledge and take credit for it all the time getting divorced. She plagiarized 2 books and still hasnt taken responsibility . Rachel is delusional in thinking anyone one is listening to her bullshit. Everyone is watching the train wreck she just keeps reinventing.
The thing I will never be able to get past is Rachel saying this whole TikTok debacle was the worst thing she's ever gone through. Worse than her brother's suicide and finding his body, worse than her miscarriage, worse than her divorce. REALLY??!! IMHO, nothing else she's ever said comes close to showing what a self-absorbed, narcissistic, truly empty person she is.
What also gets me is that she either didn't explain why, or I just really didn't understand it. I can't possibly fathom what about this could have been worse than all of those traumas if she refused to read the comments. So unless her team basically came to her and said, "Hey just fyi you're a terrible person and the entire internet wants you dead," then it makes no sense. She even said that she didn't understand what she did wrong.
Hiring a housekeeper if you can afford it is awesome! There's absolutely nothing wrong with that. It helps you, and it gives someone a job. Rachel doesn't realize that people feel grossed out by the way that she talks about her housekeeper, who is a professional. The way she talks about this person as "my girl", "this sweet woman", "she cleans the toilets", makes it sound like she doesn't value or respect the important service this person provides. It sounds belittling to this employee who she claims to value so much and it minimizes the scope of what housekeepers do, and it's a tough job.
former housekeeper here and yeah...... cleaning houses isn't the most rewarding job on here, but knowing that my clients maybe referred to me as "that boy who scrubs the toilets when we're not here" the way rachel talks about her housekeeper makes me mad. she says everyone can clean a house, which is probably true, but it is a physically demanding job that requires to work fast, know your equipment, be organized, because there's cleaning your house when you have the time and no pressure, AND cleaning an entire house under two hours for a client who has expectations and wants things to be done a certain way- with all of those variables changing depending on the client. as you said, housekeepers are not girls/boys who scrub toilets, but professionals who have a job and have to do it right.
“I’m the most optimistic person YOULL EVER MEET” “It was the darkest time” “Your worst nightmare has happened” Rachel could probably side step a lot of BS if she would stop being so hyperbolic. Jeeeeezlaweeze.
When she says “I didn’t think, I just acted.” Let’s not forget that when she put out the infamous TikTok she uses the words “yesterday on a live,” so she had an entire day to think about her next move and she chose to be condescending, rude and nasty to people.
@@Lenci_the_Nugget yeah it’s the intention behind waiting an entire day that sits with me. It really showed she truly isn’t a nice person and only cares about herself.
If there is one solid criticism for "cancel culture" its that when people like Rachel get "cancelled" they suddenly have an out, and they can go around acting like a victim and a martyr of "cancel culture". They point out the outrageous comments made against them, ignore or downplay the valid criticism, and suddenly they're praised for being "strong" for "making it through being cancelled". It happens so much, and Rachel isn't the only example. Saying "don't feel sorry for me" and "I accept full responsibility" and then proceeding to try and gain sympathy and complain about being "cancelled" doesn't work. It's endlessly frustrating to see people who are called out for being awful turn around and play the victim when people call them out.
Her bringing up the Caleb dating scenario was such a false comparison and I can't help but think that it was purposely misleading. Not only is he not a public figure, but he also didn't put his crappy behavior out to the world to financially benefit from. Also, she did not need to bring up her black friends to try and legitimize herself. That felt so forced and opportunistic. I wish she would do an interview that would actually challenge her, like this podcast claimed it would do but didn't.
Funny how she was visibly insulted by some stranger online calling her unrelateable, yet, she then acts like she never wanted to be relatable in the first place to cover up her hurt pride and feelings.
My wife and I own a residential cleaning company. I’m confident that some of our clients express contempt for some of our employees. It’s human nature AND it’s disgusting. And yes, we clean toilets.
It’s hard work I worked for a cleaning company for 2 days and quit! It’s hard on your back and you need to be thorough. So I respect that profession so much!
I respect the people in your industry! You are providing a very personal service that includes detailed attention and a level of caring for others in their home. It is a close, trusting relationship
"Most people won't work this hard" still make me mad; is she saying she worked harder than my mom, who ALSO got up at 5 am, in order to get ready for her job as a Nurse in a hospital, and to get her kids off to school? seriously?
Notice she fixed her language in the podcast: ‘housekeeper’ instead of house cleaner, ‘clean my house’ instead of clean my toilets... guess she was well briefed by her PR
as for the whole internet coming after you... i'm disabled and fat. i've been bullied all my life. work is fine. but going outside? like shopping for groceries or going to a doctor's appointment? 50/50 chance someone will be a dick to me because of things i have no control about. my compassion for rich folks who get hit by a shit storm is very limited.
@ 15:08 THANK YOU!!! That’s EXACTLY what happened to me! I was watching the channel Keya’s world and her commentary on Rachel’s “interview” here and the way Rachel described the livestream!? I seriously questioned my sanity and my memory. I stopped watching Keya and came back to your page to re watch your take on the livestream AND I WENT BACK TO KEYA’S WORLD and posted the link to your video here on UA-cam 😆 the channel “Cringe-fluencers” then did a commentary on Rachel’s interview and they gave you a shout out for your work. They hadn’t seen Rachel’s livestream before the TikTok so yeah, anyone who HASNT seen it would believe Rachel’s retelling of it, which as you perfectly said, is just SPRINKLED with truths but not at all the way SHE retells it 👋🏼😤
I just had a conversation with my husband about how exhausted I am from working my full time job and building my photography business for the last 3 years. I wish my husband made the kind of money Dave did when Rachel was building her dream business(es). 🙃 I would be in such a different position with that kind of head start. For the record, I feel I had a huge head start as an adult: I have a college education and it did not cost me an arm and a leg. I’ve been very fortunate to afford a home, a car, food, and the occasional beach vacation because of my degree. Edit: I truly cannot fathom how Rachel STILL doesn’t see the level of financial privilege she has in our world.
She had so much gall in that video. She was embarrassed because she was called out and it wasn’t received the way she thought it would be. That’s all. I would respect her more if she stood by it.
I don't know whether she's just a huge liar or if she genuinely doesn't understand what the word "relatable" means. Or how communication works between two people. Anytime someone says, "Cancel culture is the real problem," what I hear is, "I did something that hurt people but I don't see anything wrong with it so you should apologize to me for being mean."
I believe she's lying, and I also believe she doesn't care to stop and let herself feel bad for it. She just does it and goes on, if she stopped to think for a second about what she says, she wouldn't contradict herself so much on literally everything. She knows the truth, and she still chooses to lie because she's a garbage greedy person.
I don’t think she knows she’s lying. I think she genuinely believes that she’s such a wonderful person that she’s re-spun the whole story in her head to the point where….she’s the poor misunderstood hero, who was just trying to help a depressed woman.
I would LOVE LOVE LOVE to watch Rachel watch her livestream -AS IT OCCURRED- and then watch her TikTok. And it would serve her well to have READ the comments on her TikTok AND her “apologies”. I don’t relate to Rachel at all (for other reasons) but I LEARNED SO MUCH from the commentary that occurred in those posts. By her deleting all that, it definitely showed her character and revealed, at least to me, who she really is behind the whole facade and brand she pushed.
This woman simply cannot find any wrong in what she does. It is so frustrating to listen to her talking and talking but never actually saying anything meaningful. I don’t think she sees it, but it’s definitely causing problems for her.
In addition to everything else that's terrible about her, it makes me really angry how Rachel keeps going on about how poor she was growing up. She might not have been rich, but girl was not poor.
Also she has been in a very rich tax bracket as long as she was in a poor one. 20ish years poor, 20ish years married to a Disney exec/building a multimillion dollar company.
Agreed, especially with her complaining about getting a boxed cake for her 11th birthday. She’s more than fortunate to have received that-there are some families out there living so far below the poverty line that they can’t even afford ANY kind of birthday cake. 😢
So... being canceled online is way worse to Rachel than suffering a miscarriage and discovering your deceased sibling's body after they took their life... what? I can't compute. She's odd, for sure. "I was trained to be a good girl" what the actual what. That is quite the statement.
Oof. 1. Rachel casually dropping " I have a black friend" then one upping it to " I have 2 black friends" is maybe one of the most cosmically Rachel Hollis things I can think of 2. For someone who totally gets why they were wrong and takes accountability, she sure does spend a lot of time talking about how she didn't understand
Additionally, the implications that Rachel is too important to clean toilets because the there are things only she can do is that her "sweet cleaning woman" is really just less than. Gross
@19:50 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼you perfectly worded what Rachel’s apology should’ve sounded like, IF she truly understood and felt remorse for what she said. That’s a huge IF🤨
I know that it’s outrageous to hear that her cancellation was darker in her life than her brother’s death and her miscarriage, but to me it actually makes sense. When you’re someone who goes through life doing everything you can to see the brighter side or to not let the things that happen to you change how you view the world, dark things like death and loss are kind of manageable because it’s kind of a facts of life kind of thing. Death is a byproduct of life. X% of pregnancies miscarry. But compared to those two instances, the cancellation was the only thing Rachel was actually responsible for. It’s the only one that she had to reconcile her part in order to move on. The other two things happened to her and she needed to pick herself up and keep going. The cancellation was on her. Her actions and choices were being called into question and it had consequences that were far more severe than just losing face on a social media platform. The way she supports her family, the way she finds value in herself, the way she helps others through difficult times - everything was changing and it was because of her own actions. Just psychologically speaking, I can understand how her mind protected her from death and miscarriage but left her to struggle with the cancellation.
I think it's so ironic that some of the absolute most insecure people end up being motivational speakers. Because let's recap: Rachel built an entire brand on trying to be relatable and having people affirm that she was enough when she publicly asserted all the ways she was human and still worthy. Then one person called her unrelatable and she thought about it all day, slept on it, and then proceeded to angrily blow up her reputation the next day. She basically said, "Fine! I never actually wanted to relate to you anyway! I'm not like most people because most people suck!" I wish she would actually talk about the reality of that, because any counselor worth their salt would pick up on that pretty quickly in sessions, especially over this. I'm sure she knows and it's disappointing that she's not talking about her process on that, because that would be the most honest work she's ever done.
Same!! I love the Rachel snark from those creators. Mack Attack is a pretty great channel too - his take on the Dave “patio of peace” meltdown was glorious.
I feel like she could have just been like “if this is an option for you, hiring a housekeeper can really take some of the pressure off. Hiring professionals when you’re able can be a great thing.” And none of this would have happened. It the same as hiring someone to build or manage your website or whatever. Sure, you could do it yourself, but it’ll help to get a professional to do it.
West Elm Caleb still has his job, he wasn’t fired. 😁 he was outed for being a DB but that was as far as it went, and of course the internet has already moved on 🤣
What’s amazing to me is that Rachel CLEARLY was triggered by the “accusation” that she is “unrelatable”. I think that she absolutely has some shame around that…perhaps being seen as relatable helps her feel seen and heard and understood. I think she tried to use her accuser’s words against him/her and try to take away from what Rachel clearly felt as an insult. The venom and seething fury that Rachel barely kept under wraps demonstrates just how much those words affected her. To this day, Rachel NEVER owned the fact that her TikTok rant was a huuuuge overreaction to something that a viewer/follower said/commented that actually [fill in the blank] ie hurt her feelings (or whatever actually happened). This whole conversation never deals with the actual reasons why Rachel’s comments were so problematic. Her inability to truly “get it” after all this time makes me think she is more of a narcissist than I ever thought. She still seems clueless about what really happened. It’s a shame too because it would’ve been really interesting had she owned her mistake and really grew from this. Instead, she’s gonna lecture US about why we’re wrong to be upset with her. Thanks, Rach. We’ll take it from here. You can sit the rest of this out. Your flavor of “help” turns out to be anything but helpful. In fact, it’s hurtful. She needs to find something else to invest her life in other than insisting that she has answers for anyone. She seems addicted to being loved and adored by others. Addicted to recognition and validation. Addicted to the limelight. And most certainly addicted to the money that all of these other things usher in. She’s not anyone I would ever look up to or aspire to be. I honestly wonder if she will one day just disappear because people no longer want what she’s shilling? Or if she will have a nervous breakdown a la Dave Hollis and Pancake Gate? Either way I’m not sure she can keep up this charade of a façade for much longer.
People don't get to hurt others and then pull the "but life happens FOR you not TO you 🙏" card. If this happened FOR her, it taught her a lesson at the expense of others who were really deeply hurt by her words. This is still such a self-absorbed state of mind. And don't even get me started on the implications this phrase has when you tell the party who was on the receiving end of the hurt that it happened FOR them. Like SavyWritesBooks says, "Split the difference; life happens 3 you."
I'd rather Rachel spent time cleaning her house, than writing books or recording podcasts, honestly, she's doing a disservice to humanity by "creating".
The second you blame your “team” and then claim it’s “all me” you lost the plot. You can’t have it both ways Rachel. I think she’s trying to spin it so that people will misremember the event like you pointed out
@10:32 Rachel has no basis to assume that the tone in which the person made that statement was one that was judgmental and aggressive, it could have just been an observation - so for her to assume it was an attack... it's just very self-centered. Also, she seems to be assuming that the other person said it out of jealousy or inability to afford it themselves - in which case, her responding so aggressively towards that person and applying all the things she did to them while on her MASSIVE public platform could be considered punching down. Rachel is such an contradiction - she wants everyone to think she's just like us, gets triggered if we don't, and THEN makes a speech saying she doesn't want anyone to think she's relatable. ALso, - I don't think any of the women she mentioned were "unrelatable".
I would think that going through such big, painful life events in her past would help her to handle things like getting "cancelled" better and realize that her internet persona and platform are not nearly as important as other things in life like her family, health, etc. That's what I've heard from others who have gone through tragedies, that it made them realize they can handle life's more petty inconveniences because they're nothing in comparison to their safety, health, loved ones, and so on. I guess it had the opposite effect for Rachel somehow?
the women she claims are unrelatable? totally relatable to me and plenty of other people. especially the people from the communities these women are from. also, rachel is the least reflected person on the planet.
Why have a PR team if you don't let them do the job you pay them for? She's like a little kid who isn't sorry for what they did, only sorry that they got caught! I really like your calm & thoughtful commentary!
Well okay Rachel Hollis WAS NOT canceled I repeat, Rachel Hollis WAS NOT canceled Rachel insulted her audience and alienated her fan base Cancel culture has nothing to do with this
"My girl makes sure there's no mould growing on dishes in the sink". How is it fancy to only have your dishes washed twice a week? Especially if you have a large family that you feed several times a day. Do you let them pile up for days?
I really have a problem with a common habit/device many public speakers and social media “influencers” use. It really bugs me when speakers (like Rachel does often) ask rhetorical questions like, “Right?” or “Does that makes sense?” The listener doesn’t ACTUALLY have the chance to respond, so the speaker is actually manipulating the audience…and at times even gaslighting them into agreeing with the speaker. Call a spade a spade. These grifters are all about adoration, manipulation, money, power and control. No thanks.
This reminds me of the Madonna song "American Life," in particular the part where she raps (yes, raps) about all the things she has (a nanny, a private jet, a personal chef, etc.) because she's rich and famous and ends that part with "do you think I'm satisfied?" And even back in the early aughts, when people ate that stuff up, people were not only ridiculing a 40-something old white woman for rapping (in and of itself not terrible if done right... which it wasn't here,) but calling her out for essentially bragging about her enormous wealth while simultaneously claiming that it means nothing to her. THAT'S privilege: wealth that, if properly distributed, could transform thousands of lives, hoarded by an elite few who still claim to be "one of us."
I think the only reason toiletgate sank her was it was a first person video posted to her personal TikTok and not something she could blame on her team.
How can you learn if you don’t read the comments and understand what people are upset about? That’s interesting that she says she didn’t read them - but it also makes sense, then, why she doesn’t understand what people were actually saying. She’s just going off what she inferred and what her friends said. (If she’s telling the truth about that.) hmm. I also get not wanting to immerse yourself in negative comments - so I’m not necessarily judging that - but it also makes it hard to believe she actually wants to understand the real issues versus just wanting to “fix it”.
April 1st 2021 was a Thursday. A weekend at 6 flags would have been the 3rd and 4th. She apologized on the 4th saying her PR team said not to comment for days but she wanted to.. did she not see it cuz she was at 6 flags and ignored it Thursday and Friday first or was it her PR teams fault?!
You know what could have instantly catapulted her back into the realm of relatability? If she would have got on the next day and said that she was sorry for EVERYTHING she said, that she had gotten way too drunk and made a complete ass out of herself, and that she had given her cleaning lady a paid vacation and a big raise if she would agree to stay on after she said all those terrible things
i don't think rachel would have been successful without access to dave's money. she'd been at it for about ten years before she went viral. and all the high flying customers for her event planning business? dave's connections. without that money and those connections she would have been one of millions small business owners working her ass off to make ends meet without the time to do the things that made her famous. at best she would have reached a comfortable standard of living. but never the wealth she has now. and that is the only kind of success that counts for her.
She didn't mention anything about losing money. She said that week was darker. Having masses of people aggressing on you is like torture as opposed to coping and grieving while your also in shock. psychologically this makes sense and she said nothing about money.
I don’t think Rachel is even open to showing her true self. I don’t believe she knows who she is at all. I think she is simply a brand that will continue to insist that her perfectly curated imperfect “relatable” “big sister” image is her “true self”. She seems like she’s planning on leaving whatever is left of her true self buried deep inside never to be seen or heard from. It’s really sad because (in my own personal opinion) the REAL Rachel Hollis is the only version of her that (I believe) can make a meaningful difference in this broken world. And that goes for each one of us.
She still has not taken responsibility for what she said. She always blames others it's never her fault. She should take her own advice and "do better" 🤷♀️
If her toilets only get cleaned when her cleaner comes that’s gross AF, especially with little boys in the house . I give my toilet a quick clean every morning .
if a grown woman who is in the public sphere thinks of a "cancellation" over her out of touch statement as the worst thing ever...... i mean, no doubt that she has lived through hard things, but as you said, her comparing this to losing her brother to suicide and everything??? this is just messed up. i understand it being a hard and confusing time, but to me it is concerning that she thinks of it as the darkest time of her life.
Totally off topic, b looks like she could be my therapist’s sister or cousin (they just look really alike even though they’re not related) and that makes me really happy! Watching B’s videos is calming :)
I could see feeling like the entire world wishes I didn’t exist being the darkest time..I’m not necessarily trying to defend her here, just saying I could understand why this was really hard on her.
Rachel’s completely ignoring the fact that she blamed her actions on “her team”. She’s taking ownership for her actions, which means she lied about “her team” influencing her choice to post problematic content. She owes her staff an apology, and she needs to admit that she lied.
I don't think Rachel would've gotten everything she wanted if she didn't marry Dave. She's a hard worker, but if it came down to hard work, WAY more people would have what she has. She was mainly lucky.
but yes, the scrubbing the toilets was very unnecessary. like why is she choosing the most demeaning task, a housekeeper benefits you for the overall task not the small demeaning ones.
but the comment didn't say anything about her being demeaning and it did only sound like the topic of housekeepers should be taboo so i agree with her response.
I've never seen your videos, but it is strange watching white liberal basic karens complaining about white conservative basic karens. This isn't my demographic, so I just may not understand. But whatever. The video was entertaining, but I can't see myself watching anything else
For a podcast that doesn’t offer a safe space, they seem to have managed to give Rachel a huge safe space.
Right?! Not a single hard question
Well said!
They just wanted to sound bad ass. 🙄
Ugh agree. Personally I hate this podcast. The hosts give me the ick
Rachel: "You choose your mindset, you are able to control your mindset!"
Also Rachel: Chooses to get offended by someone calling her privileged and destroys her whole career in one tiktok.
🤣🤦🏽♀️
You know who else works hard? The housekeeper. She manages to clean strangers homes all day and then she goes home and cleans her own house and takes care of her own family.
This whole reasoning is stupid. The economy doesn't work if everyone follows their dreams. Hollis isn't rich because she worked hard, she's rich because she's been lucky.
This. It can be compared to the amount of talented singers there are in this world. Do they all become famous? No. Are there some singers who are more talented than some current famous singers now? Of course. Does that mean they aren’t talented, no. They didn’t catch their big break, that’s all. I’m sure there are plenty of people who are we hardworking if not more than her and will never become millionaires.
The house cleaner didn't manifest marrying a rich guy, so she clearly didn't do the HARD WORK Rachel did 🙄
Very lucky because she doesnt have any true respectable talent. She married money, gave BS talks at mlm conventions, projected she had the keys to a successful marriage and just common knowledge and take credit for it all the time getting divorced. She plagiarized 2 books and still hasnt taken responsibility .
Rachel is delusional in thinking anyone one is listening to her bullshit. Everyone is watching the train wreck she just keeps reinventing.
Yup! RH's brand of luck = marrying a Disney exec. 🤨
The thing I will never be able to get past is Rachel saying this whole TikTok debacle was the worst thing she's ever gone through. Worse than her brother's suicide and finding his body, worse than her miscarriage, worse than her divorce. REALLY??!! IMHO, nothing else she's ever said comes close to showing what a self-absorbed, narcissistic, truly empty person she is.
I thought I must have misunderstood, but... nope.
What also gets me is that she either didn't explain why, or I just really didn't understand it. I can't possibly fathom what about this could have been worse than all of those traumas if she refused to read the comments. So unless her team basically came to her and said, "Hey just fyi you're a terrible person and the entire internet wants you dead," then it makes no sense. She even said that she didn't understand what she did wrong.
@@meatofmink boxed cake kicks ass. What kid doesn't like boxed cake (and then still bitches about it 30 years later)?
@@meatofmink ikr?!
Hiring a housekeeper if you can afford it is awesome! There's absolutely nothing wrong with that. It helps you, and it gives someone a job. Rachel doesn't realize that people feel grossed out by the way that she talks about her housekeeper, who is a professional. The way she talks about this person as "my girl", "this sweet woman", "she cleans the toilets", makes it sound like she doesn't value or respect the important service this person provides. It sounds belittling to this employee who she claims to value so much and it minimizes the scope of what housekeepers do, and it's a tough job.
Why didn't she get that? Knock it off and admit that she's demeaning and move past it.
former housekeeper here and yeah...... cleaning houses isn't the most rewarding job on here, but knowing that my clients maybe referred to me as "that boy who scrubs the toilets when we're not here" the way rachel talks about her housekeeper makes me mad. she says everyone can clean a house, which is probably true, but it is a physically demanding job that requires to work fast, know your equipment, be organized, because there's cleaning your house when you have the time and no pressure, AND cleaning an entire house under two hours for a client who has expectations and wants things to be done a certain way- with all of those variables changing depending on the client. as you said, housekeepers are not girls/boys who scrub toilets, but professionals who have a job and have to do it right.
“I’m the most optimistic person YOULL EVER MEET”
“It was the darkest time”
“Your worst nightmare has happened”
Rachel could probably side step a lot of BS if she would stop being so hyperbolic. Jeeeeezlaweeze.
Yes! She exaggerates so much, it’s even harder to believe anything she says 🙄
When she says “I didn’t think, I just acted.” Let’s not forget that when she put out the infamous TikTok she uses the words “yesterday on a live,” so she had an entire day to think about her next move and she chose to be condescending, rude and nasty to people.
Yikes, good catch! She fully slept on that.
@@Lenci_the_Nugget yeah it’s the intention behind waiting an entire day that sits with me. It really showed she truly isn’t a nice person and only cares about herself.
If there is one solid criticism for "cancel culture" its that when people like Rachel get "cancelled" they suddenly have an out, and they can go around acting like a victim and a martyr of "cancel culture". They point out the outrageous comments made against them, ignore or downplay the valid criticism, and suddenly they're praised for being "strong" for "making it through being cancelled". It happens so much, and Rachel isn't the only example. Saying "don't feel sorry for me" and "I accept full responsibility" and then proceeding to try and gain sympathy and complain about being "cancelled" doesn't work. It's endlessly frustrating to see people who are called out for being awful turn around and play the victim when people call them out.
Her bringing up the Caleb dating scenario was such a false comparison and I can't help but think that it was purposely misleading. Not only is he not a public figure, but he also didn't put his crappy behavior out to the world to financially benefit from. Also, she did not need to bring up her black friends to try and legitimize herself. That felt so forced and opportunistic. I wish she would do an interview that would actually challenge her, like this podcast claimed it would do but didn't.
Funny how she was visibly insulted by some stranger online calling her unrelateable, yet, she then acts like she never wanted to be relatable in the first place to cover up her hurt pride and feelings.
My wife and I own a residential cleaning company. I’m confident that some of our clients express contempt for some of our employees. It’s human nature AND it’s disgusting. And yes, we clean toilets.
I appreciate all the work you all do.
It’s hard work I worked for a cleaning company for 2 days and quit! It’s hard on your back and you need to be thorough. So I respect that profession so much!
I respect the people in your industry! You are providing a very personal service that includes detailed attention and a level of caring for others in their home. It is a close, trusting relationship
And I bet you guys do an amazing job!!!
"my girl comes twice a week" BETTER RECORD THAN BEN SHAPIRO
"Most people won't work this hard" still make me mad; is she saying she worked harder than my mom, who ALSO got up at 5 am, in order to get ready for her job as a Nurse in a hospital, and to get her kids off to school? seriously?
34:44 Your face when Rachel pulled the Black Best Friend/blaccent card. Lol!
But Rachel using that phrase? 🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩
Oh yeah, that was a huge yikes! I actually gasped when I heard her say that. She has clearly learned NOTHING.
Dave and Rachel both tanked their careers speaking off the cuff and responding live to criticism on social media. I find that very interesting.
Notice she fixed her language in the podcast: ‘housekeeper’ instead of house cleaner, ‘clean my house’ instead of clean my toilets... guess she was well briefed by her PR
Omg yes! I didn't notice until Keya's World pointed it out. Rach actually took someone else's advice for once! Lol
as for the whole internet coming after you...
i'm disabled and fat. i've been bullied all my life. work is fine. but going outside? like shopping for groceries or going to a doctor's appointment? 50/50 chance someone will be a dick to me because of things i have no control about.
my compassion for rich folks who get hit by a shit storm is very limited.
@ 15:08 THANK YOU!!! That’s EXACTLY what happened to me! I was watching the channel Keya’s world and her commentary on Rachel’s “interview” here and the way Rachel described the livestream!? I seriously questioned my sanity and my memory. I stopped watching Keya and came back to your page to re watch your take on the livestream AND I WENT BACK TO KEYA’S WORLD and posted the link to your video here on UA-cam 😆 the channel “Cringe-fluencers” then did a commentary on Rachel’s interview and they gave you a shout out for your work. They hadn’t seen Rachel’s livestream before the TikTok so yeah, anyone who HASNT seen it would believe Rachel’s retelling of it, which as you perfectly said, is just SPRINKLED with truths but not at all the way SHE retells it 👋🏼😤
I just had a conversation with my husband about how exhausted I am from working my full time job and building my photography business for the last 3 years. I wish my husband made the kind of money Dave did when Rachel was building her dream business(es). 🙃 I would be in such a different position with that kind of head start.
For the record, I feel I had a huge head start as an adult: I have a college education and it did not cost me an arm and a leg. I’ve been very fortunate to afford a home, a car, food, and the occasional beach vacation because of my degree.
Edit: I truly cannot fathom how Rachel STILL doesn’t see the level of financial privilege she has in our world.
She had so much gall in that video. She was embarrassed because she was called out and it wasn’t received the way she thought it would be. That’s all. I would respect her more if she stood by it.
I don't know whether she's just a huge liar or if she genuinely doesn't understand what the word "relatable" means. Or how communication works between two people.
Anytime someone says, "Cancel culture is the real problem," what I hear is, "I did something that hurt people but I don't see anything wrong with it so you should apologize to me for being mean."
I believe she's lying, and I also believe she doesn't care to stop and let herself feel bad for it. She just does it and goes on, if she stopped to think for a second about what she says, she wouldn't contradict herself so much on literally everything. She knows the truth, and she still chooses to lie because she's a garbage greedy person.
I don’t think she knows she’s lying. I think she genuinely believes that she’s such a wonderful person that she’s re-spun the whole story in her head to the point where….she’s the poor misunderstood hero, who was just trying to help a depressed woman.
I would LOVE LOVE LOVE to watch Rachel watch her livestream -AS IT OCCURRED- and then watch her TikTok.
And it would serve her well to have READ the comments on her TikTok AND her “apologies”. I don’t relate to Rachel at all (for other reasons) but I LEARNED SO MUCH from the commentary that occurred in those posts. By her deleting all that, it definitely showed her character and revealed, at least to me, who she really is behind the whole facade and brand she pushed.
This woman simply cannot find any wrong in what she does. It is so frustrating to listen to her talking and talking but never actually saying anything meaningful. I don’t think she sees it, but it’s definitely causing problems for her.
Awww, poor cancelled social media creators, the world just isn't fair lmao
In addition to everything else that's terrible about her, it makes me really angry how Rachel keeps going on about how poor she was growing up.
She might not have been rich, but girl was not poor.
Also she has been in a very rich tax bracket as long as she was in a poor one. 20ish years poor, 20ish years married to a Disney exec/building a multimillion dollar company.
Agreed, especially with her complaining about getting a boxed cake for her 11th birthday. She’s more than fortunate to have received that-there are some families out there living so far below the poverty line that they can’t even afford ANY kind of birthday cake. 😢
So... being canceled online is way worse to Rachel than suffering a miscarriage and discovering your deceased sibling's body after they took their life... what? I can't compute. She's odd, for sure.
"I was trained to be a good girl" what the actual what. That is quite the statement.
It is so frustrating that she cannot take accountability
Oof. 1. Rachel casually dropping " I have a black friend" then one upping it to " I have 2 black friends" is maybe one of the most cosmically Rachel Hollis things I can think of 2. For someone who totally gets why they were wrong and takes accountability, she sure does spend a lot of time talking about how she didn't understand
Additionally, the implications that Rachel is too important to clean toilets because the there are things only she can do is that her "sweet cleaning woman" is really just less than.
Gross
@19:50 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼you perfectly worded what Rachel’s apology should’ve sounded like, IF she truly understood and felt remorse for what she said. That’s a huge IF🤨
Who are her two black best friends? I don’t believe it.
I know that it’s outrageous to hear that her cancellation was darker in her life than her brother’s death and her miscarriage, but to me it actually makes sense. When you’re someone who goes through life doing everything you can to see the brighter side or to not let the things that happen to you change how you view the world, dark things like death and loss are kind of manageable because it’s kind of a facts of life kind of thing. Death is a byproduct of life. X% of pregnancies miscarry. But compared to those two instances, the cancellation was the only thing Rachel was actually responsible for. It’s the only one that she had to reconcile her part in order to move on. The other two things happened to her and she needed to pick herself up and keep going. The cancellation was on her. Her actions and choices were being called into question and it had consequences that were far more severe than just losing face on a social media platform. The way she supports her family, the way she finds value in herself, the way she helps others through difficult times - everything was changing and it was because of her own actions.
Just psychologically speaking, I can understand how her mind protected her from death and miscarriage but left her to struggle with the cancellation.
girl, you are so astute and articulate when you break down Rachel and others! A sub from me!!!!
Thank you! I am so glad to have you here 😊
I think it's so ironic that some of the absolute most insecure people end up being motivational speakers. Because let's recap: Rachel built an entire brand on trying to be relatable and having people affirm that she was enough when she publicly asserted all the ways she was human and still worthy. Then one person called her unrelatable and she thought about it all day, slept on it, and then proceeded to angrily blow up her reputation the next day. She basically said, "Fine! I never actually wanted to relate to you anyway! I'm not like most people because most people suck!"
I wish she would actually talk about the reality of that, because any counselor worth their salt would pick up on that pretty quickly in sessions, especially over this. I'm sure she knows and it's disappointing that she's not talking about her process on that, because that would be the most honest work she's ever done.
Why can i not get enough of Rachel snark? 😭 I'm very picky tho. B Haney, Keya, Camelia, and Savy ONLY!
Same!! I love the Rachel snark from those creators. Mack Attack is a pretty great channel too - his take on the Dave “patio of peace” meltdown was glorious.
@@aws2929 Oh yeah! Mack Attack 💜
I feel like she could have just been like “if this is an option for you, hiring a housekeeper can really take some of the pressure off. Hiring professionals when you’re able can be a great thing.” And none of this would have happened. It the same as hiring someone to build or manage your website or whatever. Sure, you could do it yourself, but it’ll help to get a professional to do it.
West Elm Caleb still has his job, he wasn’t fired. 😁 he was outed for being a DB but that was as far as it went, and of course the internet has already moved on 🤣
Apology 101-
Don’t say “I’m sorry YOU FELT….”
Just say “I’m sorry”
Yay, a new video! Just what a needed this afternoon
Some of her best friends are black. Has she mentioned that? 🙄🙄
What’s amazing to me is that Rachel CLEARLY was triggered by the “accusation” that she is “unrelatable”. I think that she absolutely has some shame around that…perhaps being seen as relatable helps her feel seen and heard and understood. I think she tried to use her accuser’s words against him/her and try to take away from what Rachel clearly felt as an insult. The venom and seething fury that Rachel barely kept under wraps demonstrates just how much those words affected her. To this day, Rachel NEVER owned the fact that her TikTok rant was a huuuuge overreaction to something that a viewer/follower said/commented that actually [fill in the blank] ie hurt her feelings (or whatever actually happened). This whole conversation never deals with the actual reasons why Rachel’s comments were so problematic. Her inability to truly “get it” after all this time makes me think she is more of a narcissist than I ever thought. She still seems clueless about what really happened. It’s a shame too because it would’ve been really interesting had she owned her mistake and really grew from this. Instead, she’s gonna lecture US about why we’re wrong to be upset with her. Thanks, Rach. We’ll take it from here. You can sit the rest of this out. Your flavor of “help” turns out to be anything but helpful. In fact, it’s hurtful. She needs to find something else to invest her life in other than insisting that she has answers for anyone. She seems addicted to being loved and adored by others. Addicted to recognition and validation. Addicted to the limelight. And most certainly addicted to the money that all of these other things usher in. She’s not anyone I would ever look up to or aspire to be. I honestly wonder if she will one day just disappear because people no longer want what she’s shilling? Or if she will have a nervous breakdown a la Dave Hollis and Pancake Gate? Either way I’m not sure she can keep up this charade of a façade for much longer.
People don't get to hurt others and then pull the "but life happens FOR you not TO you 🙏" card. If this happened FOR her, it taught her a lesson at the expense of others who were really deeply hurt by her words. This is still such a self-absorbed state of mind. And don't even get me started on the implications this phrase has when you tell the party who was on the receiving end of the hurt that it happened FOR them.
Like SavyWritesBooks says, "Split the difference; life happens 3 you."
Sarah Z did a 1 hour video on West Elm Caleb and the larger topic of piling on/public shaming especially on people that go viral.
I’ll have to watch it!
I'd rather Rachel spent time cleaning her house, than writing books or recording podcasts, honestly, she's doing a disservice to humanity by "creating".
The second you blame your “team” and then claim it’s “all me” you lost the plot. You can’t have it both ways Rachel. I think she’s trying to spin it so that people will misremember the event like you pointed out
Thank you so much for making this video! Watching what actually happened vs. how she wants to spin it now makes her true character all too clear.
So how did she every figure out what she did wrong if she didn’t read any comments about it
@10:32 Rachel has no basis to assume that the tone in which the person made that statement was one that was judgmental and aggressive, it could have just been an observation - so for her to assume it was an attack... it's just very self-centered. Also, she seems to be assuming that the other person said it out of jealousy or inability to afford it themselves - in which case, her responding so aggressively towards that person and applying all the things she did to them while on her MASSIVE public platform could be considered punching down. Rachel is such an contradiction - she wants everyone to think she's just like us, gets triggered if we don't, and THEN makes a speech saying she doesn't want anyone to think she's relatable. ALso, - I don't think any of the women she mentioned were "unrelatable".
The moment she calls the housekeeper
“My girl “ is all you need to hear.🤯
I would think that going through such big, painful life events in her past would help her to handle things like getting "cancelled" better and realize that her internet persona and platform are not nearly as important as other things in life like her family, health, etc. That's what I've heard from others who have gone through tragedies, that it made them realize they can handle life's more petty inconveniences because they're nothing in comparison to their safety, health, loved ones, and so on. I guess it had the opposite effect for Rachel somehow?
I sincerely love and enjoy your commentary! You eloquently say what I think but can’t verbalize as well as you do 🙌🏼😆 Thank you!
She’s still missing the point. Clueless how condescending she is.
the women she claims are unrelatable? totally relatable to me and plenty of other people. especially the people from the communities these women are from.
also, rachel is the least reflected person on the planet.
Why have a PR team if you don't let them do the job you pay them for?
She's like a little kid who isn't sorry for what they did, only sorry that they got caught!
I really like your calm & thoughtful commentary!
Well okay
Rachel Hollis WAS NOT canceled
I repeat, Rachel Hollis WAS NOT canceled
Rachel insulted her audience and alienated her fan base
Cancel culture has nothing to do with this
I don’t want a housekeeper because I don’t want a stranger in my private space on a regular basis.
Good point!
The fact that I just finished your first video on thisss 🥳🥳🥳 What a treat - thank you!
"My girl makes sure there's no mould growing on dishes in the sink". How is it fancy to only have your dishes washed twice a week? Especially if you have a large family that you feed several times a day. Do you let them pile up for days?
I really have a problem with a common habit/device many public speakers and social media “influencers” use. It really bugs me when speakers (like Rachel does often) ask rhetorical questions like, “Right?” or “Does that makes sense?” The listener doesn’t ACTUALLY have the chance to respond, so the speaker is actually manipulating the audience…and at times even gaslighting them into agreeing with the speaker. Call a spade a spade. These grifters are all about adoration, manipulation, money, power and control. No thanks.
You did a great job breaking this down. Also this is my first video I saw of you. subscribed!
This reminds me of the Madonna song "American Life," in particular the part where she raps (yes, raps) about all the things she has (a nanny, a private jet, a personal chef, etc.) because she's rich and famous and ends that part with "do you think I'm satisfied?" And even back in the early aughts, when people ate that stuff up, people were not only ridiculing a 40-something old white woman for rapping (in and of itself not terrible if done right... which it wasn't here,) but calling her out for essentially bragging about her enormous wealth while simultaneously claiming that it means nothing to her. THAT'S privilege: wealth that, if properly distributed, could transform thousands of lives, hoarded by an elite few who still claim to be "one of us."
Every time she says sis, I cringe..😬🙄
"I sat with that for DAYS, or 24-HOURS, or WHATEVER" - which is it, sweetie? She's disgusting, offensive, and soooo full of herself!
She wants cancel culture to be about wanting the person to learn but doesn't want to demonstrate how she has learned. The math isn't mathing.
Yes! So happy to see this video posted!
I think the only reason toiletgate sank her was it was a first person video posted to her personal TikTok and not something she could blame on her team.
How can you learn if you don’t read the comments and understand what people are upset about? That’s interesting that she says she didn’t read them - but it also makes sense, then, why she doesn’t understand what people were actually saying. She’s just going off what she inferred and what her friends said. (If she’s telling the truth about that.) hmm.
I also get not wanting to immerse yourself in negative comments - so I’m not necessarily judging that - but it also makes it hard to believe she actually wants to understand the real issues versus just wanting to “fix it”.
How was it the darkest time of her life if she didn't read the comments? That's what I don't understand, either.
April 1st 2021 was a Thursday. A weekend at 6 flags would have been the 3rd and 4th. She apologized on the 4th saying her PR team said not to comment for days but she wanted to.. did she not see it cuz she was at 6 flags and ignored it Thursday and Friday first or was it her PR teams fault?!
You know what could have instantly catapulted her back into the realm of relatability?
If she would have got on the next day and said that she was sorry for EVERYTHING she said, that she had gotten way too drunk and made a complete ass out of herself, and that she had given her cleaning lady a paid vacation and a big raise if she would agree to stay on after she said all those terrible things
i don't think rachel would have been successful without access to dave's money.
she'd been at it for about ten years before she went viral. and all the high flying customers for her event planning business? dave's connections.
without that money and those connections she would have been one of millions small business owners working her ass off to make ends meet without the time to do the things that made her famous. at best she would have reached a comfortable standard of living. but never the wealth she has now. and that is the only kind of success that counts for her.
The answer is yes. Rachel is a notorious liar.
Funny that people think being super wealthy and “known” is “climbing to the top” and is the definition of success. Weird.
She didn't mention anything about losing money. She said that week was darker. Having masses of people aggressing on you is like torture as opposed to coping and grieving while your also in shock. psychologically this makes sense and she said nothing about money.
That photo of her with the hat is so off. Or is that her true self? 🙃 The way she presents herself seems so fake.
I don’t think Rachel is even open to showing her true self. I don’t believe she knows who she is at all. I think she is simply a brand that will continue to insist that her perfectly curated imperfect “relatable” “big sister” image is her “true self”. She seems like she’s planning on leaving whatever is left of her true self buried deep inside never to be seen or heard from. It’s really sad because (in my own personal opinion) the REAL Rachel Hollis is the only version of her that (I believe) can make a meaningful difference in this broken world. And that goes for each one of us.
@@Seeker0fTruth That's so true!!!! Just when I think she's showing her true self, it seems like a scam!
She still has not taken responsibility for what she said. She always blames others it's never her fault. She should take her own advice and "do better" 🤷♀️
If her toilets only get cleaned when her cleaner comes that’s gross AF, especially with little boys in the house . I give my toilet a quick clean every morning .
if a grown woman who is in the public sphere thinks of a "cancellation" over her out of touch statement as the worst thing ever...... i mean, no doubt that she has lived through hard things, but as you said, her comparing this to losing her brother to suicide and everything??? this is just messed up. i understand it being a hard and confusing time, but to me it is concerning that she thinks of it as the darkest time of her life.
You totally nailed it 👍🏻
It’s that sigh right before she talked about how hard she works that just makes the whole thing SO condescending.
Totally off topic, b looks like she could be my therapist’s sister or cousin (they just look really alike even though they’re not related) and that makes me really happy! Watching B’s videos is calming :)
So she lost a family member and a baby recently, but this is the worst thing to ever happen to her?
I could see feeling like the entire world wishes I didn’t exist being the darkest time..I’m not necessarily trying to defend her here, just saying I could understand why this was really hard on her.
Rachel’s completely ignoring the fact that she blamed her actions on “her team”. She’s taking ownership for her actions, which means she lied about “her team” influencing her choice to post problematic content. She owes her staff an apology, and she needs to admit that she lied.
Did she really just say losing a brother to suicide and losing a baby wasn’t as bad as the comment she made on social media???
She made a crappy TikTok and blamed her team for not saying something *sooner* as if acting in more immediate anger would have done any good.
I don't think Rachel would've gotten everything she wanted if she didn't marry Dave. She's a hard worker, but if it came down to hard work, WAY more people would have what she has. She was mainly lucky.
Did she ever!!!
Simultaneously yaaaaay and oh noooo. 😂
Love a long video!
It doesn't sound like she was comparing herself to them it sounded like he was saying she admired people who were unrelatable to her.
but yes, the scrubbing the toilets was very unnecessary. like why is she choosing the most demeaning task, a housekeeper benefits you for the overall task not the small demeaning ones.
but the comment didn't say anything about her being demeaning and it did only sound like the topic of housekeepers should be taboo so i agree with her response.
I used to really enjoy the skinny confidential but… they’ve given a ‘not safe safe space’ to many people who are very questionable
I feel like if you have to keep reminding people that you have black friends…they probably aren’t as close to you as you would like to believe
This again? 🤣
I dislike the podcast name “Skinny Confidential.” Idk what it’s about or who they are but as an ED survivor it’s just … weird and uncomfortable.
Rach is always dogpiling on her followers.
Oh the SC is a whole other story girl
The housekeeper stuff is old news….1 year old at least
I mean, the Caleb story was accurate but not applicable
My word - is she just repeating all of her talking points from a year ago? She is so silly.
I've never seen your videos, but it is strange watching white liberal basic karens complaining about white conservative basic karens.
This isn't my demographic, so I just may not understand. But whatever. The video was entertaining, but I can't see myself watching anything else
"How do you show up for all those people and your kids??"- pandering podcast host.
Please stop..