Ammo Loadouts How many mags do you need on you?
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- Опубліковано 4 жов 2024
- Today we take a look at real life ammo loadouts. How many mags do you need 3? 10? We'll answer this and give you some practical use points for hoy many mags you need. #minutemen #preppergear #prepared #preparedness #prepper #shtf #wrol #teotwawki #prepping #firearmstraining #ar15 #ammostockpile #ammostorage #magazines #ammunition #concealcarry #chestrig #platecarrier #ammopreps #loadedmags #blackrifle #americasrifle #bugoutbag #bugoutgear #defender
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In a different world from today, 1968, the average 173rd Air Borne rifleman basic load was minimum 20 mags (20 rds loaded with 18) with most carrying 25-30. Additionally, 200 rds for M60, 4 frags, a claymore, possibly a LAW or 81mm mortar rd, 2-3 smoke grenades, always if possible one yellow, then purple or green. Personal choice of knives, usually one folding, and 1-2 fixed (bowie knife, and Gerber or Randal style fighting knife). A 7 day resupply cycle was the norm, extended at times due to weather. No plate carriers, unless it was the base plate for the 81mm. LBE, wss pistol belt, ammo pouches (4mag) canteen covers (2 for canteens, 1 for grenades) and suspenders with bandage pouch attached. Rucksack with metal frame and shelf used to carry poncho, poncho liner, C-rats (13 meals start of 7 day cycle) 2-4 extra canteens. The LAW or morta round and the can of 7.62 linked ammo. Personal items tooth brush, razor, writing paper & envelopes, letters received, foot powder and extra socks. One man per team carried a D-handle shovel, switched each day, and one a machete.
Airborne Infanrty, when I was a young lad. Now as an old man my back, knees and feet will never be the same...
Crunchy knees are the hallmark of a man that lived to be old in a profession where men die young
@unclefreedom213 Necks and backs too.
@@unclefreedom213 we can generally spot each other by yhe hobble... lol
Realisticly speaking, it depends on the weapon you're carrying. I suggest as much as you can comfortably carry, considering your fitness level and purpose.
yes and no. MP5s don't fit in any role outside of direct action and if you're running a 308 as your primary same mag count applies maybe more because you're running less per mag and can't feed off of you teammates
Check out the very first minute forty seconds of the video. “Fast, quick, effective and efficient.” You’re setting an ambush and have .308 more is better. Get there and do your thing. Lay down a bunch of hate to lighten your load out back. Go in heavy come out light.
@@unclefreedom213 Cautionary about the source of what I am about to say. According to a Trench Grenade survey asking about how many people are in your group that you train with in the last six months, most people are solo, have one buddy or 2-3 is on the high end. This stat is heavily influenced by response bias. There is a solid chance that at least initially feeding off your pals is not going to be a thing for vast majority of people.
@@unclefreedom213All true. But civilian .308 is not military selectfire infinite re-supply. It may be very restrictive ammo use based on good target I’d and decently clear shot.We also won’t be working much larger than squad size units.
Here in California, a direct action load out would require at least 15 mags 'cause Gubnor says standard mags jump off of shelves and kill people all by themselves.
I feel for you and I'm not gonna tell you what everyone else does which is to move. I know that may not be possible. I will say do what you can and stay safe behind enemy lines
Just some thought of mine. “Jungle mag” those 10 and 15 rounders.
@@twiggybones7040 10 is the cap in California. You can get 10/20 and 10/30 that can be modified later if freedoms are ever restored.
@@newscoulomb3705 still. Jungle mag the 10s. It’s the only solution I have other than to outright ignore the law. The choice is yours.
Outstanding "why" behind the loadouts. Loved the reference to long range recon/recondo lessons learned.
I'm looking into doing a pure recon load out video with all the gear
@@unclefreedom213
Bet you won’t
Carry infinity mags. Reach into the void bag & keep pulling them out, lol!
Good REAL Info
I like truths uncomfortable or not truth is always better
I can think of several military operations where they didn't have the supplies that they needed, simply because they were told that it wouldn't take very long. Somalia in the 90s, Panama in '89, Grenada in '83 just to name a few.
That's all Murphy if he didn't show up it would've worked in all of those situations
Another professor freedom video good info 👍
Much appreciated, glad these are helping people understand the WHY.
@unclefreedom213 yeah and honestly the why is more important than the what most of the time with these kind of topics
Freedom 🇺🇸
Thank you!!!!
Soooo basically, think of magazines like bacon.
Do I have enough bacon? Don't care grabbing more!!
Always more bacon
"I'll allow it!"
I'm going with 14 30 rnd mags 2 pmag 40 rnd mags, and 2 x-products 50 rnd mags. 40 and 50 rnd mags go in my pack for infantry centric loadout. I also have a dmr loadout with just 30 rnd mags
Good information as always. Thanks for sharing.
Thanks for watching!
@unclefreedom213
EXCELLENT VIDEO!!!
I greatly appreciated that you broke down the types of scenarios and mags for each. You were absolutely correct, I have never seen anybody else explain the why’s and where’s for these loadouts anywhere else!
Way to raise the bar and continue educating!
Thank you!
P-man
Glad it was helpful, I like to explain the why behind things there's enough guys just telling you the what
It depends. What's your current purpose for 'being out and about'? Is it a neighborhoos patrol? Are you scouting? Are you just trying to get home after being caught away when TSHTF?
All the crunchy vets are building mech suits in the garage... Or loading up the dog with extra mags... I wonder if robot dogs are an option for resupply?
Uncle Freedom = GOAT 🐐
I’ve invested heavily in mags, primarily to hedge against the anti’s outlawing them. In realville I won’t be carrying more than one, because I don’t plan on leaving my house if shit gets ugly. I’m a network engineer, not a soldier….
I ruck with 600 rounds in mags for ar and minimum of 10L of water with ways to plus up to 20L if i need to. If it sucks train more the way you fight. Train skills so you carry less things.
How many 30 round mags do you have? Thank goodness preparation is the key to success. Since the state I live in has claimed them illegal to sale, import etc. the number of mags you have had has become all you are going to have. I have enough though. The mission meets the needs and you explained it well.
I'd like to think having a "Heat Chest Rig" from Kommandostore is the all-season-tire for the situations you've broken down in this video. Load up 8 mags, slide them in, and forget the burden. The guys who sell them like proving how low profile/comfortable it is by doing jumping jacks and hugging other people. Great for legitimate patrols/recon or uh... making large withdrawals from banks using illicit tactics. >_>
Another great one!
Thanks again!
I figured three mags on the chest was about comfort on spacing on the chest, too many mags go under the arms and can rub. My personal is one 20 round in the gun and a 30 on the belt, most the time I have this load I am walking own property to see what is going on with wildlife. I am expecting maybe seeing a neighbor on their property or one of the species of predators I have in the area.
For a heavier load out I figured, three on chest, one 20 in gun and two on belt with spare ammo not in mags in the pack to top mags off. I can't imagine a situation where I would have to burn through all 6 mags and not have a chance to top some up.
I will absolutely promise you if you get into contact like for real contact you can burn 4 or 5 mags and not even be away from contact yet. The military uses belt feds for this role, we don't have that. In oir world that minutman life our focus would be to burn some ammo and break contact to draw then to a place where we can engage and eliminate threats from a superior position. The Minutemen role is far more tactics based on unconventional or asymmetrical warfare than conventional
Hell yeah!!!! Awesome Information, thank you.
Any time!
Excellent info very informative.
Glad it was helpful!
My plate carrier I carry 5-8 rifle, 2 Pistol with 2 on the rifle.
Belt 3 rifle and 3 Pistol.
Assault bag 4 rifle 3 Pistol and 2 Pistol possibly on my leg strap once I have my rucksack setup atleast 7 rifle not sure on Pistol mags yet but I have 2 so far
I would pull some off thw belt you're gonna wreck your back (experience) and you'll be less mobile
Thank You For Sharing Tis Valuable Information !! Reality Is Far Different From Fantasy !
Seems to be my SOP shine the light of experience on the darkness of fantasy
Eight 30 round mags.
what for? gonna MISS with 95% of your shots and expect to survive it? Since the advent of the AK, no medal of honor winner has SURVIVED having to hit more than 6 of the enemy with his rifle. If you're out and about in daylight once shtf, making noise, having a fire in daytime or showing a light at night, you wont last a month.
im at 7
Pretty standard loadout and a hood middle ground would still have access to more in a pack
@@SonnyCrocket-p6h you are making a lot of assumptions about "SHTF." For most SHTF I observe, 60 rounds is good from a "PDW standpoint." But "most of the time" is not "all the time." And for the rest of the time, 8 mags seems pretty non-controversial. It has some solid logic.
Whatever it is for 5.56, you need about half as much .308
I love my 308 own way more of them then 556 guns/ uppers but 556 has its place especially with talking guns
In country I carried 40 20 mags
Great content. Much needed.
Glad it was helpful!
My guess is that the carrying three mags only thing probably came from a video game, where a guy thought his character looked cool with his three mags on his chest rig😂😂
that and the cool guys with helo infil and exfil and QRF getting in the news
I dont think murphey gets a vote...i think he gets the final say
I love when I’m looking for a lunch time autistic UA-cam video to watch while I eat and I see there’s a fresh uncle freedom video.
oh just wait I went full one breaking down the Kore belt, new carrier system and pros and cons of stockpiling ammo both factory and handloads
Great info ! Hoping for the best, preparing for the worst. Neighborhoods may need to come together and prepare together to defend each other from foreign enemies and comprimised domestic enemies in the future. Love the Blue and Back the Blue.
But the badge is only as valid as the Constitutional Integrity backing it.
Thank you for your Service to your Community.
Excellent
thank you
Ammo and water are the priorities. Food and snivel gear always take a back seat.
I always have some snivel gear I've spent some miserable nights in hide sites
I have 4x25s and 20 30s.
Murphy is a bad mofo!
indeed one day imma find his ass
We all hate Murphy, and we would love to be RID of Murphy but Murphy is the ultimate guerilla fighter. He effs you up and vanishes after
i do armed security in the projects in my city & everything is personal choice i run 3 pistol mags, one in gun & two on belt, & 20rd AR mag on belt & one 30rd extra on vest.
Patrol loadout on foot for UK 🇬🇧 infantry was 8x30 rd mags, bandolier of 100rds then 100rds of 7.62 link for gimpy. + bombs. Circa 20 yrs ago. Shit gets heavy 🤷🏼♂️
29 or 30 rounds in a Mag.And as always outstanding
yep gotta play youtube rules
Easily becoming the channel I am starting to trust most. I’ve already made changes to what I run because of what I’ve learned here. Belt and carrier. I’m not afraid to admit when someone more knowledgeable than me has taught me something and the moment you are, you’re done. Been watching this channel since the very first video and I knew it was going to be a good one. Understanding the why behind what we’ve all considered to be “just what we do” is great and it gives you the ability to change your load out depending on what you’re doing. But also remember..Tyson said “everyone’s got a plan til you get punched in the mouth.”
I have a question for you, you've changed up some gear based on my videos. Did it help you to be a better minuteman and better prepared? Either way it's all love my friend I'm glad you're here.
@@unclefreedom213 it absolutely has. I’ve become slightly faster and more efficient. I know more in depth why I run what I run now too instead of it just being because that’s what the guys around me run or because that’s what so and so runs. Don’t get me wrong..I’ve made changes and I’ve tried it and it just didn’t work for me but most changes I’ve made have been for the better and have benefited me in all aspects.
@@unclefreedom213 and it’s not like I’ve made a shit ton of changes or anything. It’s just been a few. 1 or 2 of them didn’t work but majority of them did.
Standard combat load in Ramadi back in ‘07 was six mags +1 in the gun. Most patrols were pretty lax so as long as you had 6 total, nobody batted an eye. If I’m ever patrolling the streets looking for Irhabi again, I’m carrying at least six on my plate carrier alone. Got two holders for the belt, and I’ll have one in my boomstick at all times.
Oh yeah I remember 7 mags being the be all end all and then we learned better solutions
I was in Ramadi in 07. 7 mags was definitely standard.
If you don't have a resupply that will affect the numbers of what you have to carry
10 30 round mags
My range bag doubles in weight if I carry 7 loaded mags... it ain't no joke it heavy.
Please do a video about having a bolt action rifle is your main long gun but as a designated marksman, if you had to carry a bolt action 308 and a Glock 19 how much ammo would you carry for each and somewhat of a philosophy of use, please and thank you
I second this
I’ll throw a “third” on this!
@unclefreedom123
My ‘heavy’ SHTF rifle (backup to ARs) is a Ruger GSR in .308 and a boatload of 10 round mags.
@@PlainsmansCabin man I’m working with a savage axis chambered in 308 and the Glock 19 as back up. And I don’t have a spare mag for it yet. For me, it’s philosophy of used would be more or less gorilla partisan hit and run kind of Minecraft stuff
I have a lot more experience and training than I do equipment at this point, but I’ve worked more on living off grid and gardening and providing all my own food now I’m getting back into the security thing. I’m completely confident in my abilities, but I do want other opinions so uncle freedom needs to read these comments lol
Most of us are going to be responding to trouble on our property or a neighbors. I’m not going on a patrol and leaving my AOR or leaving my road after shtf. I am not taking anything more than an ifak and mags cause I’m not planning on engagement as a rule of thumb.
I’m 6 min and 30 seconds in. I like this video already.
Hope you liked it more as it went on. I'm all about the why more than the what. If people think in reference to the why we make better choices
Becker content, love it
😱😱😱😱 uncle freedom wears glasses😱😱😱 lol welcome to the club💯💪
oh yeah contacts usually
also been in this particular club since 97
Just load 30 new mags with good ammo and store in ammo boxes with moisture absorbers...buy another 20 mags or so to train and play with.
Excellent, thanks! Less contractor, more MACV SOG.
bingo my friend
In that I [ and virtually everyone I know who has an interest in this ] don't belong to an organization that has a logistics group/ supply chain, I have to carry what I believe I will need should I have to respond to a calamity or event that may require an armed presence or response. That means everything I may require. Ammo, food and water, medical, commo, and some sustainment gear. My general ammo load out is 10 mags for my rifle, 7 on my 1st and 2nd line, 3 in my pack. I have more " stuff " ready to go should I have to hit the road, but that will be loaded on a bicycle.
my BOB has 48 rds of 60 gr 223 Nosler Partition softpoints and 48 rds of Aquila 60 gr 22lr subsonic ammo. I wear 14 rds of my handmade 9x21mm loads, but the pistol will fire normal 9mm ammo if need-be. I have more ammo scatter-buried at the BOB, just like the food. I have a silenced shorty AR and 22lr conversion unit, armor, night sights, night vision armor, solar charger, batteries and brains enough to not be outside of my tunnel more than 1 hour per night, at least for the first year of shtf and probably 2 years. The 99% can die off without my "help" (or my risk)
Dude thinks he can lay in a tunnel for 2 years 😂😂😂
what the hell is night vision armor? Is that like an invisibility cloak?
3 MAGS IS ALL I NEED… OR CAN CARRY… I’m 66, had my prostate removed, and quadruple bypass… I will be protecting my first floor 2 br condo…. if I really need more than three mags, more won’t make a difference..
13 mags or more
Would you enforce unconstitutional gun laws? Also, do you think Fallon should get their rights restored after serving their time?
I've answered this first part a ton.... but to answer it again I will never enforce any unconstitutional law gun or otherwise
Second part what was the crime? crimes against children or violent crime absolutely not. You got caught with weed or something dumb I don't have an issue with that
What does that big “eye” in that square and compass tattoo on your arm mean to you?
I'm a Mason
How much ammo for marksman with 308
is marksman his only job? is he carrying a primary fighting rifkw or only rhe 308 gasser? Is he doing fire team stuff ie. enter and clearing? Is he primarily an intelligence took or ddefensive/offensive weapon? Deployed from a vehicle or walked in on foot? Does he have a resupply point?
@@unclefreedom213 I am thinking more long range patrol setting up hide sites collecting intel on high value targets and taking out those targets more sniper than DMR but operates in both roles with the same rifle
You need 10 mags on your belt 20 mags on your chest rig on the front. Another 10 on the back. Then 5 mags per leg. So all together 50 mags. That should be enough for a day.
I don’t think that’s enough. Maybe your tactical dog can carry 10 more.
No state requires a permit for a dog to carry.... just sayin
7 mags is an hour. 14 is 2 hours. I day is 28 mags
I've never needed 28 mags even in the field for 9 days or more. If I've burned 28 mags we're not living through this
I ordered a double pistol double rifle all in one for my belt recently and I’ve been running that. I ran a double pistol single rifle for a while but I realized if I need that stuff I’d rather have more rifle mags than pistol and wanted to be able to just run my belt if I had to. What do you think about running a double rifle on the belt?
I know you’re probably looking for Uncle Freedom’s response but I would agree. More rifle than pistol. If anything, two rifle and one pistol reload, but I’ve switched from a battle belt setup to LBE for more rifle ammo and sustainment. I still have a battle belt, two rifle, one pistol, one dump, one blowout kit and a knife, but I just don’t see that as being enough for your typical civilian 2-4 man team doing just about anything. We don’t generally have resupply like a modern military. Hell, we don’t generally have uncompromised comms to even coordinate such things if we had the man power to run logistics like that, unless you’re loaded or you’ve spent ALOT of time, with money here and there, to create an AO with caches, a mesh network with encryption and plenty of nodes, etc. I digress. There are few kinetic situations I can see a civilian in, where they carry both pistol and rifle, that you would actually need more pistol ammo. Better to keep your primary up and running. Hell if all you have is a battle belt, sub one of those pistol pouches for a GP with a backup BCG and small cleaning/malfunction clearing kit. Itd be a better use of the weight than more pistol ammo. Reserve the extra pistol pouches/mags for a low vis setup, where carrying a rifle just isn’t feasible, but contact in close range is still a possibility. My two cents. YMMV
@@MochiMoose yes but all info is accepted here brother. Always willing to see what other guys are running and listen to their reasons behind it and their thoughts. Good points and info. Appreciate your response!
I always have at least 2 pistol on the belt as the belts primary job is to support the handgun and my personal aid stuff. That said I have run and know lots of guys that do run 2 rifle reloads on thier belt. It can actually help balance the load from the handgun on the other side. I'm cautious about overloading a belt because it will wreck you hips and lower back over time.
@@unclefreedom213 I’ve noticed it helped once I put an extra pound on that side it just felt better. Good points. Thanks!
What knife is that in the thumbnail?
Becker BK-18 Harpoon,
If you like that one, take a look at the BK-16 and BK-19!
I recommend both of those as Ive caried abd used the 16 for years. The 19 just recently came out and may overtake my 16 as regular field carry.
For EDC, I carry a Becker Necker, BK-11, ita an excellent small fixed blade, esp. with Micarta scales.
Speaking of Micarta scales, I really like upgrading to those on most of my Beckers.
Becker is my “goto” fixed blade brand.
I recommend the Becker sub-forum at Bladeforums, btw.
Good luck!
@@PlainsmansCabindoes anyone know why fixed blade is recommended?
They're stronger and no built in failure points (pivots)
As Plainsman said BK18 love this blade design
@@jeremywilson8334
As Uncle said, stronger, (an old quote said folders are knives that are already “half” broken.’ Hence as he said, pivots are a weak point.
Also, not to mention can be quicker to deploy as no extra motion needed to flip open.
“Are you a conventional troop, or are you a guerilla fighter”…Lol typical fantasy mentality here. These are the only two roles?? Knowing damn well none of these couch warrior UA-cam viewers will ever be in any heroic battles! 😂🤣😂
People need to realize that these low count magazine loadouts are generally law enforcement specific.
These loadouts assume you are going after one guy...and your team outnumbers the bad guys significantly.
Combat loadouts are vastly different.
Low mag loadouts are a Spec Ops thing LE only adopted it and recently at that. Loadouts are what they are mentioned for in the video. I agree people need to understand this better. I think I'm gonna do individual loadout videos with all the gear from low mag to Heavy recon
@unclefreedom213 I spent quite a few years hanging out with the special people... saw many loadouts for many different missions. In time though, the more experienced guys began to view missions as infiltration/target/egress. Thus, loadouts usually got larger. Jeff Gurwich served in the same group and has an excellent video on the topic.
FWIW I think this is a topic that many people need help with. Keep up the good work.
Best of luck,
Phil
@@unclefreedom213please this
Fod 24 hours
I feel like, if youre in the military you will learn or be given the info you need, your audience isnt "suddenly going to be thrown into a military infantry unit", you need to be teaching for shtf wrol scenarios
Know your audience and teach according to that knowledge
Use your military knowledge and apply it to shtf or wrol
The military absolutely does NOT give what you need. I learned to modify loadouts and gear because the military did sub optimal gear sets unless you're on the pointiest end of the Spear. I bring that knowledge and background to all to apply as you need yo your situation.
@unclefreedom213 I kind of don't believe that "the military does not give what you need" my best friend is army infantry, the gear he has is more than enough and far better than what I got
@unclefreedom213 he is issued 8 mags in the feild and stows more ammo, I've seen his ruck, and plate carrier personally
lots of misinformation out there and purposes of each loadout and what is made for...I have never been a fan of the 3-mag loadout thing I am not an operator, and I don't kick doors ...3 mags ...that is my normal home set up just to be at home lol... for the field at minimum 2 full combat loads... and then some. Is hard for me to understand how can people not see that... this is not Star Wars ...you don't have laser weapons or energy weapons... you need bullets to feed that long stick... and usually the one that carries more wins the fight lol. but everyone needs to look hip and modern and will eat up any new crap they come up with.
Whos the audience for this? Is it someone going into the military trying to learn what will be expected or is it some couch warrior daydreaming about what he will do when things go to shit? Im in decent shape for a 63 year old man and i compare favorably to construction workers i work with. Aint no way i could carry 140 lbs on a march and 70 lbs of normal sounds very difficult.
Watch more of Uncle’s videos and you’ll see…
I make these to shine some light of experience on the concepts behind the modern minuteman
As many as you can carry and run with. Leave the pistol and grab more rifle mags. Your pistol is worthless in real world gunfights
Handguns absolutely have a purpose in fights. The second your fight enters a structure/vehicle or the rifles has an issue and you don't have cover that handgun is priceless