Basically, full human cloning sucks in the Haloverse; clones have a bad habit of deteriorating into brain-dead cripples. The fact that Daisy's clone is healthy enough to still operate a wheelchair on her own actually makes her one of the lucky ones; most clones tend to die very quickly of medical complications. Essentially, cloning is only useful for replacing individual organs.
It’s been years, but in the spirit of rewatching Homecoming again, the Spartan 2 clones used like with what we see for Daisy weren’t fully grown clones that could independently lead a full life. Such clones are illegal under the Mortal Dictata statutes. The ones used for the Spartan 2’s were flash clones; a method of cloning that quickly “built” a human body to purposefully die off a few weeks - months later. As we see with Daisy’s clone, she lived several years which was actually a design flaw.
Coming back to this since Halo Infinite Clonely Bear. After reading the comics and listening to audiobooks of Halo, the ending of Homecoming was much sadder. The Spartan at the end who found Daisy dead wasn’t a stranger. He pretty much witnessed the death of his (adopted) sister; since all of them were kidnapped children that grew up together. Sad he couldn’t stay longer to mourn the death of a sibling and had to get back to the battlefield. Thank you for reading and sorry for the long rant. May Spartan 023 Daisy find peace.
This was simply history saving the program's PR image for all of time; they did end up a great contributor to saving humanity. In the beginning however, the SPARTAN II program was created with highly questionable means to create loyal, indoctrinated super-soldiers to strike down anti-UNSC rebels and separatists. It was only a twist of fate that they ended up doing far more noble work. Despite that, all Spartan IIs were still kidnapped from their families and subject to hellish training/modding.
Basically, in the Haloverse, clones have a bad habit of becoming crippled and senile very, very quickly (the fact that Daisy's clone managed to live for several year is very unusual, as most flash clones die in less than a year).
Kid, your just mad that the most emotional part of Halo that people can actually relate to, as well as the best internal stories, just happen to be the parts that where made in Japan. Complain if you want, but for those of us who like Halo because of it's story and not the violent video game element this is the best part of the franchise.
Eh the only thing that really saved humanity was luck. Luck for truth to start the great schism, luck for Arbiter to join with the UNSC at that time, and luck for the covenant to have not found earth sooner
spartan-II's were created before the covenant war began, spartans were created to fight incurrectionists, Spartan-III's were made because of the covenant i think
Correct on all accounts except for one. Spartan IIs were modified for covenant combat once they came about and spartan IIIS were made as a "cheaper" alternative to the IIs, far less effective but you could get many more of them. When it came to Spartan IIs, they were almost impossible to replenish because it takes the maturation time of a child to an adule before they're ready for deployment. Spartan IIIs offered the possibility of people a bit older than just children but still served as a soldier still leagues greater than ODSTs. But yes. The origibal purpose for the spartan project as a whole, was to erase the insurrection, only to be modified to face against the covenant when they became a threat
@@justinpriebe6737spartan III’s are usually used as suicide units if I remember correctly, especially characters like emile and the rest of noble team (excluding jorge)
Well, except for those fine fellows on Grey Team who were trained separately from the rest of the Spartans precisely because they didn't give a crap about the indoctrination. Still, it's worth noting that both Daisy and Grey Team stuck firmly with the UNSC once the war with the Covies started.
Dwyer 2000 they fucked up when they said they were done with halo 😂 Bungie betrayed us but I hope they come back they are the only ones who really know halo.
also, she made the Spartans BEFORE the covenant were discovered as Mendez said, while she did save humanity, she had no moral justification at the beginning, the oni officer who arrested Halsey was questioned by Halsey "why now?" and she responded with: "Because you couldn't flout the law and human decency one minute longer" "You were always on borrowed time, whether you realized it or not" - best quote ever and it does describe Halsey very well.
i don't find it okay to kidnap kids and force them to go to their eventual deaths, spartan-III's i was more okay with because they were orphans and revenge hungry
Halsey is what’s called “a moral grey character that isn’t really, grey, but just constantly shifting between black and white” she sometimes feels regret for her actions but other times she defends them proudly
i'd prefer the orphans, you forget that the spartan-II's had a lot more training than the III's also i think there were 300 spartans not 800, they didn't have the funding for that many. They didn't have a lot of time to train the spartan III's than the II's either.
3:44 This is a critical situation she's in, and she stops to say, "Wait, I know that voice." Couldn't she save it for -when- if she got off planet? She's a goddamn Spartan 2, she should know that reuniting with an old friend is not her highest priority at the moment.
Its a fairly old one, and this episode was made by a fairly small and unexperienced studio. If you want to check out the best of anime art and animation, check out Studio Bones or Studio Trigger. Studio bones made the Prototype episode for this anime, while studio trigger is renowned in the anime community for it's simple art style.
Yeah but from spartans III there were only 4 survivors from the 900. And Alpha lost all of their members in the first Op? Beta lost all but 2 another mute for rest of her life. And the last company has 3 on Onyx, i have no idea how much on other Op's. But S III had 3 Op's and they lost over 800 spartans. Spartan II lost about 60 in 40 years. So yeah, id rather kidnap elite kids than have unstable and un-suitable kids as volunteers.
Evan Bell Negative. The Spartan II's did undergo extreme genetic modification, and suffered something like a 60% mortality, 70% casualty rate as a result of augmentation. The Spartan III's underwent biochemical augments only They were less capable, but safer and cheaper to produce and therefore more expendable. I don't recall of the III's received neural implants across the board, or only the non-suicide units.
i never said they were good, they had different argumentations, they were cheaply made soldiers, most soldiers had SPI armor which is just like the Mark IV so it has less protection than the Mark V or V[B] used in reach, also they were trained less as well.
@@xenomang3149 and also because ONI would likely never approve, as if they found out they had cloned children and sent them to war Itd be probably even more unethical than taking normal kids
not going to release the second until you hit enough subscribers huh? well shucks guess I will have to...wait a minute...WHAT'S THIS?! another youtube uploader has posted the second part already?! well gosh darnit I don't know what I want to do now?
And all but 7 out of over 900 were wiped out compared to the four left from the 75 Spartan II's. And that's because they took on missions with little or no backup.
Guys, guys its ok. You don't need to be forced to sub to some guy that says, "Unless you sub I wont give the rest of the episode. The whole episode come be found right here. /watch?v=1BK9HQYmzQk Your welcome
Good question, but I’m pretty sure that it’s because the cloning technology would make their minds not as sharp and flash clones usually developed terminal illnesses shortly after their creation
This isn't close to an anime, it is an anime. Halo Legends is made by 6 different actual anime studios. The guys who made this episode are the same ones who made the Ghost in The Shell TV series, Psycho-Pass, and Guilty Crown..
Jacq Wasp America is full of people of different ethnicities. I'm a Japanese American and I know a ton of Americans of European heritage that can draw anime better than me.
i have took some time of gaming videos to upload another halo reach video and aparently the soundtrack is banned sorry people blame the people who banned it
Except it doesn't make sense in this. There were no augmentations until they were 14, all they had was intensive training. Also all the Spartan 2's after augmentation were the finest of them all, there were only around 30 Spartans that weren't disfigured from augmentation. The Spartans that were fit from there wouldn't run away they were the Spartan 2's that everyone feared from 14 onward. Plus they were all on Reach, they can't have gone home. And apparently this can still be called cannon.
Basically, full human cloning sucks in the Haloverse; clones have a bad habit of deteriorating into brain-dead cripples. The fact that Daisy's clone is healthy enough to still operate a wheelchair on her own actually makes her one of the lucky ones; most clones tend to die very quickly of medical complications. Essentially, cloning is only useful for replacing individual organs.
And in the case of the Spartan Program fake those kids deaths.
It’s been years, but in the spirit of rewatching Homecoming again, the Spartan 2 clones used like with what we see for Daisy weren’t fully grown clones that could independently lead a full life. Such clones are illegal under the Mortal Dictata statutes. The ones used for the Spartan 2’s were flash clones; a method of cloning that quickly “built” a human body to purposefully die off a few weeks - months later. As we see with Daisy’s clone, she lived several years which was actually a design flaw.
I would like to testify personally to the fact that 240p was still the exact opposite of HD in 2012.
halo would of made a good anime series
Sol brown
No it wouldn't
Darth Vader yes it would
Xavier Your Savior No it wouldn't.
Yes it would.
InvestedGman
No it wouldnt goddammit lets carry on this cycle. Lol
It made me realize one thing though.
ANIME IS MUCH COOLER WITH THE HALO THEME PLAYING IN THE BACKGROUND
Haven't watched this as I was a 14 wow so, anyone watching this in 2018?? I do.
Alu_Viscount/ 02
March
right here. august
130792 297031 bro I started watching this in 3rd grade
Here in 2022 watching it again after watching all the new Halo series on Paramount Plus, and playing all the Halo games again
@@AdmiralHalimesh Hope you like it
Coming back to this since Halo Infinite Clonely Bear. After reading the comics and listening to audiobooks of Halo, the ending of Homecoming was much sadder.
The Spartan at the end who found Daisy dead wasn’t a stranger. He pretty much witnessed the death of his (adopted) sister; since all of them were kidnapped children that grew up together. Sad he couldn’t stay longer to mourn the death of a sibling and had to get back to the battlefield.
Thank you for reading and sorry for the long rant. May Spartan 023 Daisy find peace.
Wasn’t it chief that found her?
@@sahajthind7234 It was either him or an unknown Spartan II. Still sad though.
@@samuraininjarockstar6309 Absolutely hey story is beautiful tragic
It was chief@@samuraininjarockstar6309
Can tell me if you remember the book name to read for myself ?
This was simply history saving the program's PR image for all of time; they did end up a great contributor to saving humanity. In the beginning however, the SPARTAN II program was created with highly questionable means to create loyal, indoctrinated super-soldiers to strike down anti-UNSC rebels and separatists. It was only a twist of fate that they ended up doing far more noble work. Despite that, all Spartan IIs were still kidnapped from their families and subject to hellish training/modding.
This is probably my favorite short of the bunch. I lost my shit when Under cover of night played.
Basically, in the Haloverse, clones have a bad habit of becoming crippled and senile very, very quickly (the fact that Daisy's clone managed to live for several year is very unusual, as most flash clones die in less than a year).
A sad story of Daisy 023.
Sad for all the Spartan 2's
Blue eyed people always die slow
Kid, your just mad that the most emotional part of Halo that people can actually relate to, as well as the best internal stories, just happen to be the parts that where made in Japan. Complain if you want, but for those of us who like Halo because of it's story and not the violent video game element this is the best part of the franchise.
No.
Get your weaboo a-55 outta here
Those japanese artist were lucky enough to be involved inna halo project.
xenophobe OK , Lmao
@@joemama-ij7qy The guy as far as I can remember was being pretty racist in the comment I was originally replying to
and she was the one responsible for saving humanity in the halo universe.
xYoshiNo nah
Eh the only thing that really saved humanity was luck. Luck for truth to start the great schism, luck for Arbiter to join with the UNSC at that time, and luck for the covenant to have not found earth sooner
@@Woopor
I dont the earth not being found was the luck it, i belive it mainly came to the cole protocal. and maybe luck
spartan-II's were created before the covenant war began, spartans were created to fight incurrectionists, Spartan-III's were made because of the covenant i think
Correct on all accounts except for one. Spartan IIs were modified for covenant combat once they came about and spartan IIIS were made as a "cheaper" alternative to the IIs, far less effective but you could get many more of them. When it came to Spartan IIs, they were almost impossible to replenish because it takes the maturation time of a child to an adule before they're ready for deployment. Spartan IIIs offered the possibility of people a bit older than just children but still served as a soldier still leagues greater than ODSTs.
But yes. The origibal purpose for the spartan project as a whole, was to erase the insurrection, only to be modified to face against the covenant when they became a threat
@@justinpriebe6737so do you think daisy is a S III?
@@justinpriebe6737spartan III’s are usually used as suicide units if I remember correctly, especially characters like emile and the rest of noble team (excluding jorge)
I wish my assault rifle was this useful ingame.
Well, except for those fine fellows on Grey Team who were trained separately from the rest of the Spartans precisely because they didn't give a crap about the indoctrination. Still, it's worth noting that both Daisy and Grey Team stuck firmly with the UNSC once the war with the Covies started.
The clones died of complications, all of them.
Halo used to be badass
jacob groves I don’t know bungie isn’t doing so good right now destiny 2 and all that jazz
Dwyer 2000 they fucked up when they said they were done with halo 😂 Bungie betrayed us but I hope they come back they are the only ones who really know halo.
Peaked at Halo 2 then bumped up in ODST, then went down for reach with some ups. 4 made corrections but was hated for it then 5 sucked
@Up And Across bungie is dead.
Used too is right
Did anyone else think it was Sarge from Red vs. Blue when they saw a red Spartan with a shotgun?
9:00 what a good choice of music, man halos fuckin crazy
Lol so weird why is that ost in there during the day
@@ghosttiee9212 still works tho even tho it ain’t night
The fight is happening at dawn.
That's just a flashback
Needler is terrifying
also, she made the Spartans BEFORE the covenant were discovered as Mendez said, while she did save humanity, she had no moral justification at the beginning, the oni officer who arrested Halsey was questioned by Halsey "why now?" and she responded with:
"Because you couldn't flout the law and human decency one minute longer" "You were always on borrowed time, whether you realized it or not" - best quote ever and it does describe Halsey very well.
But Mendez played just as much a role in the Spartan program.
@@benolr64 It's called guilt
He wasn't supposed to outlive those children
@@girl1213 I don't follow.
this planet has to be sargasso with the whole outer colonies already falling
thesparduck117 I think it’s Harvest
I would eat my own kidney for a show like this. Raw, too.
no her work kinda saved humanity and made the most bad ass spartan ever
Man I miss watching animated Halo series
1:44 oh great buggers with needler's
Halo soundtrack is legendary
question, did anyone after watching this then reading up on spartan II's want to kill halsey, because i sure as hell did.
The jackals here look badass
I have, great book, that's where I got my quote.
People calling her Samus but now look at vale from Halo 5
Me: Alright, sweet! Kickin ass, red armored Spartan. OOH a CQC helmet in anime, sweeeet.
3:01 Me: HOLEHSHIT THEY GOT WAIFUS SAVIN' LAIFUS!¡!!1¡!
holy shit i thought this was going to be fake, this is seriously halo wow. :O
The domain is actually taking the image of cortana and matching size of chief. Guess she started final report then
Spartan crying about be turned into sniper soldier- space Marine standing behind them
She undeniably saved humanity by creating the Spartans, but you will really see her as an inhumane bitch if you read the Glasslands novel, plus this.
When the director of a channel posts a comment and gets flagged for spam really says something lol. First time I've seen that happen.
i don't find it okay to kidnap kids and force them to go to their eventual deaths, spartan-III's i was more okay with because they were orphans and revenge hungry
Dr. Halsey looks evil.
Bryan Muschar she is
*sexy
Halsey is what’s called “a moral grey character that isn’t really, grey, but just constantly shifting between black and white” she sometimes feels regret for her actions but other times she defends them proudly
They're flash clones. They're frail and sickly.
Not to mention other details of her personal life, if you read Glasslands
And this how all kids how they were taken by the unsc to be Spartans
That’s Oni for you
RIP daisy
i'd prefer the orphans, you forget that the spartan-II's had a lot more training than the III's also i think there were 300 spartans not 800, they didn't have the funding for that many. They didn't have a lot of time to train the spartan III's than the II's either.
There were 33 fully operational spartans only
@@aurelian2668 33 Spartan IIs, IIIs there were way more.
flying covenant OMG WTFF OWNED!!
Ho-ly shit... I just heard of this now, and this is fucking amazing!
3:44 This is a critical situation she's in, and she stops to say, "Wait, I know that voice." Couldn't she save it for -when- if she got off planet? She's a goddamn Spartan 2, she should know that reuniting with an old friend is not her highest priority at the moment.
@matta428naruto2 I wonder if that will do with anything in H4 because H4 is supposed to be more about chief more than anythin
The clones all die after a few months...
He probably didnt cut it during further training.
Rip daisy
No. There were 300 to 330 spartans for each spartan III company
Those were just flash clones. They don't have a long life and they probably don't have the specific genetic requirements that Halsey was looking for.
"HD"
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Yes
what type of anime artstyle is it. im loving it . and i want learn how to draw it
Its a fairly old one, and this episode was made by a fairly small and unexperienced studio. If you want to check out the best of anime art and animation, check out Studio Bones or Studio Trigger. Studio bones made the Prototype episode for this anime, while studio trigger is renowned in the anime community for it's simple art style.
Almost all the time when a Spartan removes their helmet they die after seems not in this
I don't know if your comment was to insult me or something, but it made me laugh.
the intro should've been narrated by Morgan Freeman
i thought we were talking each company
Planet sargasso? Something about that name screams "ratchet and clank"
They are spartan 2 but where's John 117 A.K.A Master Chief they both spartan 2
yep
Why is Ralph not a Spartan
Was that 117preping her grave?
I was here
Where can I find part 2?
wow
Yeah but from spartans III there were only 4 survivors from the 900. And Alpha lost all of their members in the first Op? Beta lost all but 2 another mute for rest of her life. And the last company has 3 on Onyx, i have no idea how much on other Op's. But S III had 3 Op's and they lost over 800 spartans. Spartan II lost about 60 in 40 years. So yeah, id rather kidnap elite kids than have unstable and un-suitable kids as volunteers.
Where's Part 2?
0:55 The Spartan's augmentations were not genetic, only bio-mechanical and bio-chemical.
Evan Bell
Negative. The Spartan II's did undergo extreme genetic modification, and suffered something like a 60% mortality, 70% casualty rate as a result of augmentation.
The Spartan III's underwent biochemical augments only They were less capable, but safer and cheaper to produce and therefore more expendable. I don't recall of the III's received neural implants across the board, or only the non-suicide units.
I have so many questions about....everything kind of, but the one question that I need answers is: Was that Dr. Halsey?
SpiralFox FX lol yeah
Why the hell did u post this if u didnt have the rest if the movie....I tried to find this movie and it led me to the series
What song is 6:07
she looks like samus.
Daisy is cute!!!!
林瑾毅
If only she looked better than non existent armour😍
So you're into those anime girls huh?
Yeah I dig her design.
I... I'm sorry, but.... You have shit taste... And... There is no cure other than watching good animation...
im a spartan, i can keep the covenant off you
I almost forgot about hornets in halo god I miss it i have to get my Xbox back fuck the ps4 😭😭😭😭
i never said they were good, they had different argumentations, they were cheaply made soldiers, most soldiers had SPI armor which is just like the Mark IV so it has less protection than the Mark V or V[B] used in reach, also they were trained less as well.
Why would they kidnap childreen and replace them with clones, when they just could create geneticaly modified clones instead of normal childreen?
Cloning technology in Halo is underdeveloped and shoddy. The clones die quickly. Few live longer than a year. Cheap replacements.
@@xenomang3149 plus this way the clones die and nobody quiestions anything. if the clones lived longer, someone couldve figured it out
@@xenomang3149 and also because ONI would likely never approve, as if they found out they had cloned children and sent them to war Itd be probably even more unethical than taking normal kids
How about we don't subscribe until you upload?
not going to release the second until you hit enough subscribers huh? well shucks guess I will have to...wait a minute...WHAT'S THIS?! another youtube uploader has posted the second part already?! well gosh darnit I don't know what I want to do now?
Slow the video down to 25% and the narrator sounds kinda like Darth Sideous
And all but 7 out of over 900 were wiped out compared to the four left from the 75 Spartan II's. And that's because they took on missions with little or no backup.
Guys, guys its ok. You don't need to be forced to sub to some guy that says, "Unless you sub I wont give the rest of the episode. The whole episode come be found right here.
/watch?v=1BK9HQYmzQk
Your welcome
lol this guy is mad
Why would they need to abduct the children if they have the ability to make perfect cloned replicas of the children?
Steve Naraine the clones aren't perfect and are not as strong
Good question, but I’m pretty sure that it’s because the cloning technology would make their minds not as sharp and flash clones usually developed terminal illnesses shortly after their creation
he nerver made it
WHAT IS samus doing there
mapleklik S Thats not Samus, thats Spartan Daisy 0-23
ohhhhhh
1:28 Gruntpocalypse!
Symion More Grunts than you can handle! Well...
becuase REAL humans are way more reliable and useful then frail flash clones.
well i the human race was in danger it was necessary
seriously dude how old are you
This is the closest that Americans can get to making anime.
Rusticabcd Have you looked up a show called RWBY?
Did you know that anime is a Japanese styled cartoon? Why would you expect Americans to make something Japanese when we have our own animated shows?
JkRaptor Samurai Jack
This isn't close to an anime, it is an anime. Halo Legends is made by 6 different actual anime studios. The guys who made this episode are the same ones who made the Ghost in The Shell TV series, Psycho-Pass, and Guilty Crown..
Jacq Wasp
America is full of people of different ethnicities. I'm a Japanese American and I know a ton of Americans of European heritage that can draw anime better than me.
I'm sorry to say I have stopped uploading these sort of videos because I have started spending more time on my gaming videos
cloning hasnt been perfected. these clones die very easily from infections and diseases
you do realize that halo legends is on 1 disk right unless you illegally downloaded it it should be no problem getting other episodes
i have took some time of gaming videos to upload another halo reach video and aparently the soundtrack is banned sorry people blame the people who banned it
Except it doesn't make sense in this. There were no augmentations until they were 14, all they had was intensive training. Also all the Spartan 2's after augmentation were the finest of them all, there were only around 30 Spartans that weren't disfigured from augmentation. The Spartans that were fit from there wouldn't run away they were the Spartan 2's that everyone feared from 14 onward. Plus they were all on Reach, they can't have gone home. And apparently this can still be called cannon.