Sorry for the delay replying. Thanks for commenting! Wasn't the most entertaining video, but hopefully the maths will help someone do their own sums. I have seen guys keeping splitters outside just under a tarp. I do enjoy the axe aswell, but for getting through a big quantity...the splitters are a bit of luxury!
Hi, just to let you know I bought the Sullivan s splitter last week. ‘Played’ with it when I got it home and it was great! Note on holiday to recover from the cost😂😂 contacted the log guys but to date no response. Many thanks Ed
Great job on the splitter, I'm sure you're a very happy man! They do look fantastic, and sure, you'll never worry about the cost when we're all crying about the price of oil, and you're sitting there with 3years worth of logs in the bank! The log folks are typical flat out business/haulage guys. You'll have to ring and ring at them to get anywhere I suspect. But here, enjoy the new machine. If you don't have one, I suspect a pickaroon would be very handy to go with your machine.
@@moweroutdoors many thanks. I’m actually one ahead of you on the picaroo one arrived just over a week ago. We may do a video ( not as detailed as yours) simply because you were so helpful and it’s good to share. Back from ’not so sunny/hot’ holiday ready to give it a good test but I know it’ll do well. Many thanks again for everything!
Thanks Adam. This video was probably a bit boring for most, but was just to help people (like me) do the sums and work out if they should buy one or not. They're not cheap! More than happy to share any info on the table you want. Was nothing too scientific; think its 1" square tubes, 20" long with a 1" gap between each tube. They're no lighter than 16swg. I welded the top all first which warps it into a very slight bow, just enough to slightly help fall logs towards the wedge.
Enjoyed your insight as I’m about to buy a log splitter. I don’t have a tractor so it will be probably an electric version for a few reasons which I’m sure I don’t need to explain. I’ve seen that company and I believe what they make seems like quality. I’m splitting ash mostly and have decided to go with a 12 ton vertical splitter. Do you have the agency for these in the north? It would save me a long journey! Thanks found that insightful.
I wish! Afraid I've no ties to the company other than a happy customer. One thing I'll mention for you to look out for...the electric ones tend to work with a different plug. Think its a 16amp round pin, round plug. Its not going to be a standard 13amp plug that you could run your ordinary extension lead out and work away. You'll probably need to get a spark out to add a 16amp socket near your meter board first. That put me off the electric. I'm not sure if they do one with a slightly less powerful motor that can run off the 13amp normal plugs. That was a big factor for me, as I wanted to be able to go and split logs for family or customers too, and you can't if they don't have the right sockets. You could buy a generator...but then you might as well buy the petrol one. Just something to bear in mind and make sure you've considered a way around it...and if you're going for a 13amp machine, has it a good enough power and cycle speed for you. Definitely, a splitter makes splitting so much more enjoyable. Are you in the North? You'd be welcome to have a look at mine before trekking down (I just got mind sent up - was cheapest by far).
Many thanks. I live near Saintfield and appreciate the offer. I’ve tracked down a company in dungannon who make upright petrol ones I’ve used one of theirs from a local hire shop was great! I have 16amp power supplie from my workshop but having spoken to these local manufacturers they’re advising against electric for the reason that electric motors may not be strong enough. I’m now swaying towards petrol but for me I want vertical and these get around your issue in that they come fully galvanised with a lovely big table. Maybe I’ll do a review 😂😂 great talking to you really enjoyed your videos Ed
@@Edsq101 Is that the Sullivan engineering ones? They do look fantastic, but they're a right bit more money when I'd looked into it. Maybe Sullivans were Armagh. I'd priced boys out West too at the time - can't remember what put me off (Possibly just the extra money). I do like the vertical setup for multiple cuts, think its a good job for being able to just spin big rings around and do multiple chops. If you're looking to split inside a shed, the petrol would kill you with the fumes would be the only niggle compared to the electric. Not sure I'd write the electric off just yet. At the end of the day half the boats in the country use electric motors! Lathes, milling machines, teslas...if you're getting a decent motor I can't see why it wouldn't last. All its doing is spinning a pump. Petrol, galvanised table and Honda engine...and sure its near Christmas...think I know which one I'd buy
Thanks. Yes sullavans Road legal. It’s a lot more than I’d started looking at but the one I’d hired was great. I’m still on the fence having read your comments re electric. My main issue was tablet size. I spoke to that company and mentioned my concerns but they said they’d never had an issue. Do you mean you’d go with sullavans if Santa was feeling generous?😂😂 many thanks
@@Edsq101 If you can afford it, I think I'd go Sullivans. The negatives are really just the space it'll take up when not in use, and the cost of it. Cost you'll soon forget about, it'll last you a lifetime too. Electric is quieter, smaller, less fumes, cheaper, but also more limiting in terms of use. Mind you, splitting in the shed in an evening is appealing. If it was my decision, I'd go Sullivans road tow rather than the electric, if you can justify the extra expense. The question I'd ask is which would you put on your Santa list if he was paying for it? If its Sullivan...there's your answer. The only thing I'll say about the horizontal vs vertical is that with horizontal you can split into a trailer or loader a tad easier. Vertical you need to shove them off the table more. If you're regularly doing big rounds with lots of splitting into halves, then the vertical is going to be quicker. I fancied getting a roller table set up beside mine, so on the output side you shove onto a ramped roller table and they roll off into a trailer or whatever. Let me know what you go for!
Well spotted!! Afraid it's just a home-made job. Its to clear the bagging kit/hopper. Sits between two of the bags and means I can hook the trailer on even with the bagger on. The normal towball at the back just behind the back axle, doesn't let you hook anything on when the hopper is on as there's a crossbar in the way. It's just a bit of ignorant heavy channel, cut and bent, then welded up. Big diameter bolts out through the two holes in the bottom plate. Not fancy, but does the job. JD do a rear receiver hitch I think, not sure if its 2" or 1.5". Wild money and I wanted to lift the towball up a bit too, so made my own just.
@@moweroutdoors ye iv just a ball in the first hole in the back of the tractor iv a tow behind 5 foot fleming roller and a spinner for fertiliser it breaks my heart hitching up
Receiver hitch might be a good job, just slide it in and put the pin in. I see "Heavy Hitch" in USA make them aswell www.amazon.com/Rear-Receiver-Hitch-Deere-Tractors/dp/B07YBGJCLS What spinner do you have for the fertiliser? It a good job?
Hi Kev. Currently, in N.Ireland/UK it is not road legal. It has no lights and no suspension, so it is very bouncy at speed. I'm toying with the idea of making it road legal. Indespension sell suitable weighted units and with lights and longer mudguards, I reckon it would take around £400. In N.I, Sulllivan Engineering do a very nice road towable one, its vertical. You're probably looking at an extra £1k+. There's another crowd in the south do a really nice one as well. Green coloured machine, but can't recall the name of it at the moment. For me it was a balance of size/storage. The axle makes it much easier to move about the place, and I can move it on the road with the trailer, but road tow wasn't a top priority for me.
Thanks for the reply. Yea I've looked into Sullivan engineer and have used there road 1 but hardnetts also looked handy and at there money it good value. Plus could get lorry load for the money saved. Tell me this would the splitter fit on an 8x4 trailer if I was 2 get 1 if I needed take it down the road
The one I have (Horizontal & diagonal - I went for it as has the removable ends), is maybe 1/2" under 8ft from front of hitch to the back of her, in horizontal position with end stand removed (Plate she stands on when diagonal - I added the table and never use it diagonal). Obviously with my table on its well over 8ft, but actual machine without table and without the footstand is just under 8ft. She is over 4ft wide though. Probably 4ft centre to centre of tyres. Widest point, edge of guard to edge of guard is 53". If its a flatbed you could do it, put her at a slight angle...just make sure well strapped down! The other issue is the weight of it. Its heavy. If its a 8x4 builders trailer with 6ft ramps; no way you're pushing it on yourself...even if you are built like Popeye. 8x5 trailer, wheels on outside, low floor and ramp tailgate be ideal for it. Hartnett have one (ua-cam.com/video/ga8owNQkxqw/v-deo.html) and M-Tec do one aswell (www.m-tec.ie/8ft-x-5ft-twin-axle-trailer). I guess it depends on how far you intend towing it on the road. If you're only going up to 5mile away...no need for a trailer. Keep the tyre pressure low, avoid the bumps and it tows fine. The only negative I have with the Hartnett was that two lever operation thing...but they all have that. I'm thinking of fitting something like these indespension.co.uk/indespension-250kg-std-stub-axle-unbraked-suspension-unit-complete-with-hu004
Thanks for the information, think I will end up goin for Carrolls log splitter from Cavan, it's got a slightly bigger table than that of Sullivan mind u I do like the fact Sullivan is galvanized
@@kevreilly4745 That's the one I couldn't remember the name off! Thought they looked really well. Was a bit worried about the table height on them, looks a tad low. You could put bigger wheels on it or drive it onto ramps/block of wood to sort that though. I hired a splitter once that was too low and after a couple of hours my back was gone! Assume the Carrolls have suspension? When I priced it they were a right bit more than the Hartnett, Sullivan kind of money; but look fantastic. I worry some of the vertical ones, the table is also too deep, that you're standing with your back at an angle to reach in a bit. Bound to get sore after a while that too. Think Sullivan and Carroll both be fine that way though. I do think the vertical is probably nicer to use for splitting big rounds where you do multiple "cuts". If you're buying a lorry load and all similar size - can you still put a 4way wedge on it? I keep mine off now - but do think I'd like the option of a 4way. Possibly not as critical on a vertical as it'd be that fast to move the log over/around anyway I suppose. Only other negative I see with the vertical is loading into a trailer or whatever. With the horizontal you can let the next log push the last one off the end. With the likes of the Carroll there, you'd have to lift and throw the log. Again - not big deal, but you'd need to be careful if you're sliding logs across that they don't fall off the table as they'd land on the mud-guards. I'd want to make sure I could shove the logs off the table and into whatever it is I'm filling, without moving my feet position. Be annoying if the table is that wide you've to take a step after each log to empty it. I'm thinking of making a set of rollers on the output side of mine, just like a table with rollers that when the logs go onto it they roll away - something like that would work great with a vertical one. Don't take any of this as negative/me having a bash. The Sullivan and Carroll were just above my budget, but two great looking machines. Only saying my thoughts incase maybe happen to say something helpful to help you decide. If it was coming down to the galvanising, I'm sure Carrolls could be talked into dipping it for you before they assemble it. But sure, you wouldn't be leaving it outside anyway...machine like that needs to be in the good room for all the visitors to look at.
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That was a very clear and comprehensive breakdown of all facets. Much appreciated!!
Thanks! Probably not a very entertaining video to watch, but for anyone thinking about a purchase, hopefully helps make a decision.
I enjoyed the video, I split by axe at the moment, thanks for the maths, lack of dry storage put me off buying a splitter.
Sorry for the delay replying. Thanks for commenting! Wasn't the most entertaining video, but hopefully the maths will help someone do their own sums. I have seen guys keeping splitters outside just under a tarp. I do enjoy the axe aswell, but for getting through a big quantity...the splitters are a bit of luxury!
Hi, just to let you know I bought the Sullivan s splitter last week. ‘Played’ with it when I got it home and it was great! Note on holiday to recover from the cost😂😂 contacted the log guys but to date no response. Many thanks Ed
Great job on the splitter, I'm sure you're a very happy man! They do look fantastic, and sure, you'll never worry about the cost when we're all crying about the price of oil, and you're sitting there with 3years worth of logs in the bank! The log folks are typical flat out business/haulage guys. You'll have to ring and ring at them to get anywhere I suspect. But here, enjoy the new machine. If you don't have one, I suspect a pickaroon would be very handy to go with your machine.
@@moweroutdoors many thanks. I’m actually one ahead of you on the picaroo one arrived just over a week ago. We may do a video ( not as detailed as yours) simply because you were so helpful and it’s good to share. Back from ’not so sunny/hot’ holiday ready to give it a good test but I know it’ll do well.
Many thanks again for everything!
Many thanks for that info! I’ll contact them and see. As you can appreciate I’ll need a steady supply to get my money’s worth. Thanks again.
Great informative video. Like the modifications. Out of interest are you willing to share the specs for the log table you fabricated 👍
Thanks Adam. This video was probably a bit boring for most, but was just to help people (like me) do the sums and work out if they should buy one or not. They're not cheap!
More than happy to share any info on the table you want. Was nothing too scientific; think its 1" square tubes, 20" long with a 1" gap between each tube. They're no lighter than 16swg. I welded the top all first which warps it into a very slight bow, just enough to slightly help fall logs towards the wedge.
Enjoyed your insight as I’m about to buy a log splitter. I don’t have a tractor so it will be probably an electric version for a few reasons which I’m sure I don’t need to explain. I’ve seen that company and I believe what they make seems like quality. I’m splitting ash mostly and have decided to go with a 12 ton vertical splitter. Do you have the agency for these in the north? It would save me a long journey! Thanks found that insightful.
I wish! Afraid I've no ties to the company other than a happy customer. One thing I'll mention for you to look out for...the electric ones tend to work with a different plug. Think its a 16amp round pin, round plug. Its not going to be a standard 13amp plug that you could run your ordinary extension lead out and work away. You'll probably need to get a spark out to add a 16amp socket near your meter board first. That put me off the electric. I'm not sure if they do one with a slightly less powerful motor that can run off the 13amp normal plugs. That was a big factor for me, as I wanted to be able to go and split logs for family or customers too, and you can't if they don't have the right sockets. You could buy a generator...but then you might as well buy the petrol one.
Just something to bear in mind and make sure you've considered a way around it...and if you're going for a 13amp machine, has it a good enough power and cycle speed for you.
Definitely, a splitter makes splitting so much more enjoyable. Are you in the North? You'd be welcome to have a look at mine before trekking down (I just got mind sent up - was cheapest by far).
Many thanks. I live near Saintfield and appreciate the offer. I’ve tracked down a company in dungannon who make upright petrol ones I’ve used one of theirs from a local hire shop was great! I have 16amp power supplie from my workshop but having spoken to these local manufacturers they’re advising against electric for the reason that electric motors may not be strong enough. I’m now swaying towards petrol but for me I want vertical and these get around your issue in that they come fully galvanised with a lovely big table. Maybe I’ll do a review 😂😂 great talking to you really enjoyed your videos Ed
@@Edsq101 Is that the Sullivan engineering ones? They do look fantastic, but they're a right bit more money when I'd looked into it. Maybe Sullivans were Armagh. I'd priced boys out West too at the time - can't remember what put me off (Possibly just the extra money).
I do like the vertical setup for multiple cuts, think its a good job for being able to just spin big rings around and do multiple chops.
If you're looking to split inside a shed, the petrol would kill you with the fumes would be the only niggle compared to the electric. Not sure I'd write the electric off just yet. At the end of the day half the boats in the country use electric motors! Lathes, milling machines, teslas...if you're getting a decent motor I can't see why it wouldn't last. All its doing is spinning a pump.
Petrol, galvanised table and Honda engine...and sure its near Christmas...think I know which one I'd buy
Thanks. Yes sullavans Road legal. It’s a lot more than I’d started looking at but the one I’d hired was great. I’m still on the fence having read your comments re electric. My main issue was tablet size. I spoke to that company and mentioned my concerns but they said they’d never had an issue. Do you mean you’d go with sullavans if Santa was feeling generous?😂😂 many thanks
@@Edsq101 If you can afford it, I think I'd go Sullivans. The negatives are really just the space it'll take up when not in use, and the cost of it. Cost you'll soon forget about, it'll last you a lifetime too. Electric is quieter, smaller, less fumes, cheaper, but also more limiting in terms of use. Mind you, splitting in the shed in an evening is appealing.
If it was my decision, I'd go Sullivans road tow rather than the electric, if you can justify the extra expense.
The question I'd ask is which would you put on your Santa list if he was paying for it? If its Sullivan...there's your answer.
The only thing I'll say about the horizontal vs vertical is that with horizontal you can split into a trailer or loader a tad easier. Vertical you need to shove them off the table more. If you're regularly doing big rounds with lots of splitting into halves, then the vertical is going to be quicker.
I fancied getting a roller table set up beside mine, so on the output side you shove onto a ramped roller table and they roll off into a trailer or whatever. Let me know what you go for!
Your towbar on the tractor is that john deere or after market
Well spotted!! Afraid it's just a home-made job. Its to clear the bagging kit/hopper. Sits between two of the bags and means I can hook the trailer on even with the bagger on. The normal towball at the back just behind the back axle, doesn't let you hook anything on when the hopper is on as there's a crossbar in the way. It's just a bit of ignorant heavy channel, cut and bent, then welded up. Big diameter bolts out through the two holes in the bottom plate. Not fancy, but does the job.
JD do a rear receiver hitch I think, not sure if its 2" or 1.5". Wild money and I wanted to lift the towball up a bit too, so made my own just.
@@moweroutdoors ye iv just a ball in the first hole in the back of the tractor iv a tow behind 5 foot fleming roller and a spinner for fertiliser it breaks my heart hitching up
Receiver hitch might be a good job, just slide it in and put the pin in. I see "Heavy Hitch" in USA make them aswell www.amazon.com/Rear-Receiver-Hitch-Deere-Tractors/dp/B07YBGJCLS
What spinner do you have for the fertiliser? It a good job?
@@moweroutdoors i do its a atv spinner i got it cause from my 540 jd to my 4400 can use it i use it for fertiliser seed and dry sand
@@noelcahill6707 Thanks. Are you happy with it? Nice even spread? I have a cub cadet one I'm not happy with, throws unevenly. What make is yours?
Hi was wondering is that log splitter road legal? Thanks
Hi Kev. Currently, in N.Ireland/UK it is not road legal. It has no lights and no suspension, so it is very bouncy at speed. I'm toying with the idea of making it road legal. Indespension sell suitable weighted units and with lights and longer mudguards, I reckon it would take around £400. In N.I, Sulllivan Engineering do a very nice road towable one, its vertical. You're probably looking at an extra £1k+. There's another crowd in the south do a really nice one as well. Green coloured machine, but can't recall the name of it at the moment. For me it was a balance of size/storage. The axle makes it much easier to move about the place, and I can move it on the road with the trailer, but road tow wasn't a top priority for me.
Thanks for the reply. Yea I've looked into Sullivan engineer and have used there road 1 but hardnetts also looked handy and at there money it good value. Plus could get lorry load for the money saved. Tell me this would the splitter fit on an 8x4 trailer if I was 2 get 1 if I needed take it down the road
The one I have (Horizontal & diagonal - I went for it as has the removable ends), is maybe 1/2" under 8ft from front of hitch to the back of her, in horizontal position with end stand removed (Plate she stands on when diagonal - I added the table and never use it diagonal). Obviously with my table on its well over 8ft, but actual machine without table and without the footstand is just under 8ft. She is over 4ft wide though. Probably 4ft centre to centre of tyres. Widest point, edge of guard to edge of guard is 53". If its a flatbed you could do it, put her at a slight angle...just make sure well strapped down!
The other issue is the weight of it. Its heavy. If its a 8x4 builders trailer with 6ft ramps; no way you're pushing it on yourself...even if you are built like Popeye. 8x5 trailer, wheels on outside, low floor and ramp tailgate be ideal for it. Hartnett have one (ua-cam.com/video/ga8owNQkxqw/v-deo.html) and M-Tec do one aswell (www.m-tec.ie/8ft-x-5ft-twin-axle-trailer).
I guess it depends on how far you intend towing it on the road. If you're only going up to 5mile away...no need for a trailer. Keep the tyre pressure low, avoid the bumps and it tows fine. The only negative I have with the Hartnett was that two lever operation thing...but they all have that.
I'm thinking of fitting something like these indespension.co.uk/indespension-250kg-std-stub-axle-unbraked-suspension-unit-complete-with-hu004
Thanks for the information, think I will end up goin for Carrolls log splitter from Cavan, it's got a slightly bigger table than that of Sullivan mind u I do like the fact Sullivan is galvanized
@@kevreilly4745 That's the one I couldn't remember the name off! Thought they looked really well. Was a bit worried about the table height on them, looks a tad low. You could put bigger wheels on it or drive it onto ramps/block of wood to sort that though. I hired a splitter once that was too low and after a couple of hours my back was gone! Assume the Carrolls have suspension? When I priced it they were a right bit more than the Hartnett, Sullivan kind of money; but look fantastic.
I worry some of the vertical ones, the table is also too deep, that you're standing with your back at an angle to reach in a bit. Bound to get sore after a while that too. Think Sullivan and Carroll both be fine that way though.
I do think the vertical is probably nicer to use for splitting big rounds where you do multiple "cuts". If you're buying a lorry load and all similar size - can you still put a 4way wedge on it? I keep mine off now - but do think I'd like the option of a 4way. Possibly not as critical on a vertical as it'd be that fast to move the log over/around anyway I suppose.
Only other negative I see with the vertical is loading into a trailer or whatever. With the horizontal you can let the next log push the last one off the end. With the likes of the Carroll there, you'd have to lift and throw the log. Again - not big deal, but you'd need to be careful if you're sliding logs across that they don't fall off the table as they'd land on the mud-guards. I'd want to make sure I could shove the logs off the table and into whatever it is I'm filling, without moving my feet position. Be annoying if the table is that wide you've to take a step after each log to empty it. I'm thinking of making a set of rollers on the output side of mine, just like a table with rollers that when the logs go onto it they roll away - something like that would work great with a vertical one.
Don't take any of this as negative/me having a bash. The Sullivan and Carroll were just above my budget, but two great looking machines. Only saying my thoughts incase maybe happen to say something helpful to help you decide. If it was coming down to the galvanising, I'm sure Carrolls could be talked into dipping it for you before they assemble it. But sure, you wouldn't be leaving it outside anyway...machine like that needs to be in the good room for all the visitors to look at.