YOOO LETS GO, I was actually really disappointed that the sequel of this was cancelled. Especially, when the next game was going to be an entire week long instead of a single day. I really hope it does well.
Unfortunately, that game will be by the studio behind the Dr. Dekker game, and not a sequel to this one. Instead, the studio that made this game is coming out with a (partially) FMV puzzle horror game called 3AM - also not a sequel.
The game as a whole wasn't bad at all, as much as I disagree with its moralist and anti-Libertarian message with this I won't argue. The ending in particular, however, kinda was. This was cited as one of the reasons the funding for a sequel couldn't so far be raised by quite a few sources, including the author, Tim Follin, himself. Well, this and tediousness of the production process.
Don't take this as 100% fact, I've just read this, but apparently there was going to be a fight scene with Simon and Ryan, but one of the actors called sick on the day, and they didn't have enough budget to keep renting the area, so they wrote the ending basically on the same day as it was performed. Shame really, I actually really enjoyed the game, despite the slight cheesiness.
it's actually sad that theres probably not going to be a sequel, I really love the universe presented here and it kinda sucks to know all that's holding them back is budget.
LordWhiteWolf06 the lead creator had to sink thousands of his own dollars even with Kickstarter’s help for this game, and the sequel was allegedly meant to be much more in depth, spanning several days and two major stories rather than one evening, But it relied on the sales of this one and fell short
I've watch both Nick and Ryan play this now. Loved it both times. It is a small game with its rough edges, but all in all it is really neat little game. The acting isn't that good but it is incredibly entertaining. The story isn't perfect but pulls you in quite effectively. It got so much personality even in its flaws.
That tape was the most absurd, circumstantial evidence ever. A good defense attorney would point out that like 3 million rolls of that tape were produced in one year. Also, Jenks has got a lot of nerve reading Miranda after his mockery of an investigation.
She straight up admitted it to a cops face. That is the evidence taken to court. Not tape. He asked her about the tape and instead of saying "Nobody else has it" she went "SHIT I KILLED HER SHE WAS MAKING WEIRD SOUNDS SO LIKE A PYSCHOPATH I HELD HER UNDER WATER WITH A STICK"
150booyadragon I mean, I am arguing a goofy video game BUT her confession would get tossed. It wasn’t recorded and she didn’t write it down. She could deny it and there was no physical evidence that tied her to the scene. The law might be different in the UK admittedly, but when Jenks asks her if there is anything she’d like to tell him and then she says “no, I’ve got to get back to work”, she is effectively ending the interview. He continues to question her. Even a first year PD would argue coercion at that point. She didn’t feel free to leave and felt that if she didn’t answer questions there would be consequences. If you want to get really meta, Jenks also interrogated her about 30 times in about 5 hours. That’s insanity. A jury would never hear her “confession” (especially with the attorney the Rand money would get her). Jenks had nothing else but the license, which even if it had Rebecca’s DNA on it after Jenks picked it up barehanded and put it in a sandwich bag before actually handing it to all the principal suspects for examination, she could still argue that her DNA was on it from checking her ID at the bar. No way she’s convicted. She can slap me around anytime though.
Village Power rankings according to the almighty Egg: 1. Woods Drunk 2. James 3. Lisa 4. Simon After number 4 NL stopped being coherent so from here on out i'm gonna use the mess of words said during this period of madness to try and extract a decent list 1. Woods Drunk 2. James 3. Jenks 4. Lisa 5. Simon 6. Rebecca 7. Emma 8. Kyle 9. Ryan 10. Paul
Paul: "You're going to have to excuse me inspector, i'm a very busy man, i've got work to do." Egglord: "It's midnight on a friday and you're a hundred years old, that's the worst lie of them all" Lol
Absolutely amazing game. Did not see Rebecca doing it. Damn dude! Let's hope "The Shadpeshifting Detective" is gonna actually be a real thing! By the way, that Paul guy is the guy who played Paul Rand. He's still alive.
Ok hear me out, I would love it if NL did another murder mystery game, none of them will be able to hold a candle to this game, but there are a lot of mystery games out there and I think it would be a great time if he did another.
After witnessing what appears to be attempted murder, why does he just immediately believe ryans story and start looking into simon, leaving the girl to walk around about 10ft from where it happened with the 2 guys still there. Then when the tape comes up, he doesn't even question that a piece of tape could possibly be used by anyone else, it's just asserted that it's ryans tape from then on. Then It's somehow suspicious that somebody misremembers what kind of tape they used.
Simon began his epic quest to find his screwdriver so he could complete his satanic auto-hypnosis inducing homebrew, So he could finally fulfill his dream of becoming prime candidate and get a top job.
I'm surprised that I'm not disappointed in this ending, but it's probably because I'm just *that* sad that it doesn't have a sequel.. what a great quirky game, really! I've gotten way too invested in the dang Atlas story line now lol
I started off this series expecting it to be a shitty joke game, but came to look forward to each episode. Really friggin' sucks that it ended like that. Rebecca's confession was the shittiest, most impossibly self-incriminating dialogue ever. It's not even a realistic conversation haha.
Really Ryan? Paul explicitly said, "Take care of the Inspector." And what do you do? You go out into the woods and sacrifice some random girl. Nice going. That aside, this was a fun game. SHOUT OUT TO *SIMON'S SCREWDRIVER* EVERYONE WOO!
The oddest thing to me is I can see like. Middle school or high school kids falling for this but like. There's grown ass people carving shit into trees and stabbing themselves in the hands n shit.
So casual. I got a big stick and pushed her down obviously. I think the ending was on the dumb side. But also like im glad she talked so much in the end scene coz like its important to wrap it up.
From the production history: one of the actors got sick and the filming was delayed, and then they ran out of money and had to change the ending entirely to this rushed version - just in case people wonder why this seems too abrupt. Edit: whoops, NL mentions it in the end
i don't think the ending wasn't that disappointing sure would be nice to know more about the satanic connections but for me atleast the murder being Rebecca was a surprise
All that satanic mind-fuckery going on...and Kate was killed by a jealous lover who runs the bar she frequents, sounds like a bad anime plot line lol, explains why everyone loves it including me
Dear lord, there were so many 'strings' that just turn out to be actually nothing at all. The world was interesting, but they made so many things seem relevant when they actually weren't. Then... what, some tape that randomly shows up at the end is the only reason for the end? It doesn't even make sense. I did enjoy NL commentary through this game a lot though, silver lining.
So the moral of the story is: no matter how radical and profound your ideas are and how innovative and perfectly calculated your business is, it can all be brought down by something as banal as some middle-aged woman's jealousy.
I know all that stuff about the occult and satanism, drugs etc was pretty much set aside by the ending, yeah yeah.... But what about Simon's SCREWDRIVER? And specially its connection with his homebrew? I think we are all missing the point of this game, just saying...
It sucks that fmv are pretty limiting, while also more complicated to make than sitting a 2d or 3d artist down in a room, cause I always was a fan of those type of games.
I enjoyed this but what the fuck. Like all the evidence was there in the first hour, that was everything you needed to know. Simon could have easily ended everything when you showed him the Drivers license the first time. That was like being taken on a fun ride then slapped in the face.
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According to Jenks' actors Twitter there is a new game called the shapeshifting detective featuring Jenks in it coming out soon.
YOOO LETS GO, I was actually really disappointed that the sequel of this was cancelled. Especially, when the next game was going to be an entire week long instead of a single day. I really hope it does well.
Omai. I was kinda disappointed. But now I am hyped for it ^_^
Unfortunately, that game will be by the studio behind the Dr. Dekker game, and not a sequel to this one. Instead, the studio that made this game is coming out with a (partially) FMV puzzle horror game called 3AM - also not a sequel.
Charlie E. When that comes out we all need to spam NL’s twitter to make sure he plays it
That one will be fun, I'm sure, but I still hope they get to make the sequel for this one some day.
For some reason I fucking loved this series, but geez the ending was disappointing
Yes, i agree , it was so underwhelming
There's a reason the (obviously foreshadowed) sequel did not come to be.
The reason was the lack of funding, the same reason the ending was rushed. So no, your implied "No sequel because it was bad" is wrong.
The game as a whole wasn't bad at all, as much as I disagree with its moralist and anti-Libertarian message with this I won't argue. The ending in particular, however, kinda was. This was cited as one of the reasons the funding for a sequel couldn't so far be raised by quite a few sources, including the author, Tim Follin, himself. Well, this and tediousness of the production process.
Don't take this as 100% fact, I've just read this, but apparently there was going to be a fight scene with Simon and Ryan, but one of the actors called sick on the day, and they didn't have enough budget to keep renting the area, so they wrote the ending basically on the same day as it was performed. Shame really, I actually really enjoyed the game, despite the slight cheesiness.
it's actually sad that theres probably not going to be a sequel, I really love the universe presented here and it kinda sucks to know all that's holding them back is budget.
LordWhiteWolf06 the lead creator had to sink thousands of his own dollars even with Kickstarter’s help for this game, and the sequel was allegedly meant to be much more in depth, spanning several days and two major stories rather than one evening, But it relied on the sales of this one and fell short
Everyone should go buy this game then!
There's another game staring most of the same people from this game called the Shapeshifting detective coming out
@@Fricious thank you so much for this! Can't wait to see Jenks inspecting again!
Legit one of the best NL series so far
Smugtania My favorite NL series of all time is his Hitman series but this is in the top 5 forsure
@@dinkleberg794 judoooooo
I really loved the memage on Until Dawn, but yeah, was waiting on this one since Nicks playthrough and didn't dissapoint
You say it was one of the best NL series, but yet Simon owns a screwdriver?
I know the ending was rushed and all, but have you tried Simon’s home brew?
*Achoo!*
Jason Lenny Hmmm, maybe we should use the screwdriver
Can you acquiesce your profile pic's source?
@@buddy94445 You still don't know where that profile picture came from but yet Simon owns a screwdriver?
Simon left to go find THE SCREWDRIVER!
Or he went to make more of his home brew for drunk man in the forest.
and he never locked his bicycle
HOW DOES TALKING ABOUT TAPE CAUSE HER TO. CONFESS A MURDER
Let's not ask the wife why her husband is giving another lady 500 pounds..... Why not game why not?
Really, REAALLY SAD that there is no sequel. Not so good ending, but interesting to watch with Nl playing. 10/10 Series would watch again
I've watch both Nick and Ryan play this now. Loved it both times. It is a small game with its rough edges, but all in all it is really neat little game. The acting isn't that good but it is incredibly entertaining. The story isn't perfect but pulls you in quite effectively. It got so much personality even in its flaws.
That tape was the most absurd, circumstantial evidence ever. A good defense attorney would point out that like 3 million rolls of that tape were produced in one year. Also, Jenks has got a lot of nerve reading Miranda after his mockery of an investigation.
She straight up admitted it to a cops face.
That is the evidence taken to court. Not tape.
He asked her about the tape and instead of saying "Nobody else has it" she went "SHIT I KILLED HER SHE WAS MAKING WEIRD SOUNDS SO LIKE A PYSCHOPATH I HELD HER UNDER WATER WITH A STICK"
150booyadragon Yea Rebecca isn’t very smart
150booyadragon I mean, I am arguing a goofy video game BUT her confession would get tossed. It wasn’t recorded and she didn’t write it down. She could deny it and there was no physical evidence that tied her to the scene. The law might be different in the UK admittedly, but when Jenks asks her if there is anything she’d like to tell him and then she says “no, I’ve got to get back to work”, she is effectively ending the interview. He continues to question her. Even a first year PD would argue coercion at that point. She didn’t feel free to leave and felt that if she didn’t answer questions there would be consequences. If you want to get really meta, Jenks also interrogated her about 30 times in about 5 hours. That’s insanity. A jury would never hear her “confession” (especially with the attorney the Rand money would get her). Jenks had nothing else but the license, which even if it had Rebecca’s DNA on it after Jenks picked it up barehanded and put it in a sandwich bag before actually handing it to all the principal suspects for examination, she could still argue that her DNA was on it from checking her ID at the bar. No way she’s convicted. She can slap me around anytime though.
Jimm Dogg Damn are u a criminal? Seems like u know how to handle an investigation
@@JimmDogg76 Except if he could get her to confess with tape in a proper interrogation she's done lol
Wait, where TF did simon go? 😂 he just ran and you never see him again, even though he didnt kill Kate?
he was still the main suspect for giving her opium though and it looked like jenks was ready to pin the murder on him as well
@@blasterjosh no I get that its more along the lines that he just GTFOs and we hear nothing about him again, which i find comical
Even went as far to go from he to she... actor is now a woman.
@@MrBoboiscool oh you mean like in the sequel?
PFI RedNinja Nah I mean in real life haha. Was looking round twitter see f there was/is going to be a sequel and was pretty shocked.
Village Power rankings according to the almighty Egg:
1. Woods Drunk
2. James
3. Lisa
4. Simon
After number 4 NL stopped being coherent so from here on out i'm gonna use the mess of words said during this period of madness to try and extract a decent list
1. Woods Drunk
2. James
3. Jenks
4. Lisa
5. Simon
6. Rebecca
7. Emma
8. Kyle
9. Ryan
10. Paul
NL forgot the screwdriver in the power rankings, or maybe he excluded it because it was too op.
He also didn't include Resin Chief!
You know what's worse than cliffhanger ending on a game made 5 years ago with no sequel?
"Oh yeah, and the old guy in this died." Dangit game
They mentioned that he lost his legs due an anurism
He isn't dead. His legs had to be removed however.
@@Kryptnyt they did, just look at how many steps jenks had to do
“What was I gonna say”
>Kate sneeze
“I forgot what I was gonna say”
>Kate sneeze
That was actually a crazy coincidence
Paul: "You're going to have to excuse me inspector, i'm a very busy man, i've got work to do."
Egglord: "It's midnight on a friday and you're a hundred years old, that's the worst lie of them all"
Lol
She literally just had to say "Nope, don't know anything about it" and she would've walked lol.
The screwdriver was the key!
I'm so upset, this whole playthrough and game was awesome and then we get THAT ENDING.
I want a sequel.
All this time I thought it was the screwdriver but it was the tape...
I'm so sad its gone
May have actually started crying with laughter after the Big Stick confession. 😂😂😂😂😂
I really liked this series. I couldn't tell you exactly why, but I did!
Screwdriver was foreshadowing for Big Stick
Absolutely amazing game. Did not see Rebecca doing it. Damn dude! Let's hope "The Shadpeshifting Detective" is gonna actually be a real thing!
By the way, that Paul guy is the guy who played Paul Rand. He's still alive.
That was really anticlimactic.
Ummmm, so where did Simon go?
To the sequel that doesn't exist.
He has gone to make homebrew and look for his screwdriver
While the ending wasn't the best, overall this game was great.
erm ask you a few more things pls
Have you ever seeeeeeen THIS BEFORE?! OwO
Have you ever tried Simon Thompson's homebrew?
Jenks seems to have gone a bit mad and sinister in this episode.
That was the roughest ending
This game summarized in two words : Anticlimactic, and screwdriver.
and yet: Simons unlocked bicycle
just a casual physical endurance exercise at midnight on a friday for your business course
Top tier nl content
Ok hear me out, I would love it if NL did another murder mystery game, none of them will be able to hold a candle to this game, but there are a lot of mystery games out there and I think it would be a great time if he did another.
That Jenks bitch slap was 10/10
After witnessing what appears to be attempted murder, why does he just immediately believe ryans story and start looking into simon, leaving the girl to walk around about 10ft from where it happened with the 2 guys still there. Then when the tape comes up, he doesn't even question that a piece of tape could possibly be used by anyone else, it's just asserted that it's ryans tape from then on. Then It's somehow suspicious that somebody misremembers what kind of tape they used.
This was my favorite NL playthrough ever.
I called the tape back in the episode where we found out about the broken window!
Michael Brown You sure did
Michael Brown (no irony here - you actually did)
Are Scotland Yard investigators actually this useless? An 8 year old armed with a slingshot could take Jenks down. lol
This was a super fun play through! I'm honestly sad to see it end
6:10 "is this Paul Ryan?" Dad's name is Paul... son's name is Ryan...
Simon began his epic quest to find his screwdriver so he could complete his satanic auto-hypnosis inducing homebrew, So he could finally fulfill his dream of becoming prime candidate and get a top job.
NL needs to play more of these.. Maybe even support the developement by sponsoring a gofundme for part 2!
great game, terrible ending
Patiently waiting for the Bully VOD to be uploaded
🌛🌝🌜
Oh wow, I've seen *THIS* before!
Paul darrow is paul rand. They dedicated the game to him and yet talk about the possibility of a sequel. A sequel without him would be weird.
He isn't dead
he is also the voice for Grand Moff Tarkin in Empire at War
He had his legs removed not long after this game though, that would probably put a damper on his will to act I'd imagine.
Aw man I didn't think that was THE end, I thought NL just got a BAD end :( Still an enjoyable experience! I hope we do get a sequel one day!
Any way we could get NL to play The Infectious Madness of Doctor Dekker? It's so good!
I'm surprised that I'm not disappointed in this ending, but it's probably because I'm just *that* sad that it doesn't have a sequel.. what a great quirky game, really! I've gotten way too invested in the dang Atlas story line now lol
James is very high indeed
29:27 NL's cat saying bitch 2 times
also, like probably my favorite NL series in years. no idea why, but sad that this is over
We were so focused on the screwdriver the whole time but the patterned tape was the real culprit all along!
Simon wouldn't have ran if you tried his home brew and gave him back his screwdriver, gge.
Unexpected ending to say the least.
"So I think james gotta be very high"
In more ways than one. :p
It's always passion crimes (love, hate, etc). Always. I kinda saw the loop coming.
Paul Darrow is still very much alive, you silly forkmeister. The game's dedicated to him because the man's a fucking baller.
The tape that broke the camels back
11:35 HE FINALLY DID IT, MY GOD THE SERIES IS SAVED
I started off this series expecting it to be a shitty joke game, but came to look forward to each episode. Really friggin' sucks that it ended like that. Rebecca's confession was the shittiest, most impossibly self-incriminating dialogue ever. It's not even a realistic conversation haha.
Paul Darrow was Ryan’s dad. He died in 2012
That tape moment was where the game went 100% Phoenix Wright
Phoenix Wright had way better endings than that
Awesome playthrough :D
Can't wait for the next one guys!
Really Ryan? Paul explicitly said, "Take care of the Inspector." And what do you do? You go out into the woods and sacrifice some random girl. Nice going.
That aside, this was a fun game. SHOUT OUT TO *SIMON'S SCREWDRIVER* EVERYONE WOO!
Finally...the damn tape :D
The oddest thing to me is I can see like. Middle school or high school kids falling for this but like.
There's grown ass people carving shit into trees and stabbing themselves in the hands n shit.
So casual. I got a big stick and pushed her down obviously. I think the ending was on the dumb side. But also like im glad she talked so much in the end scene coz like its important to wrap it up.
From the production history: one of the actors got sick and the filming was delayed, and then they ran out of money and had to change the ending entirely to this rushed version - just in case people wonder why this seems too abrupt.
Edit: whoops, NL mentions it in the end
OK she said she used a stick but what about the screwdriver?
What a special game
i don't think the ending wasn't that disappointing
sure would be nice to know more about the satanic connections
but for me atleast the murder being Rebecca was a surprise
Best series
I want a sequel so bad
All along IT WAS THE SCREWDRIVER
What is this for an ending ? Applying to both the game and the video
where is Simon?
where is Lisa?
where are the demons?
What i find bs about this ending is how all it took to expose the murder was a piece of tape. Why couldn’t this link be made right at the beginning
I FREAKIN KNEW IT
Dude what a ludicrous plot... Haha this makes no fucking sense. Adored this play through though!
now we just need to get NL to play an ace attorney game for more contradictions
It's honestly really upsetting that Contradiction 2 will probably never happen
Something something screwdriver...
But what about the Broken Bicycle Lock!
All that satanic mind-fuckery going on...and Kate was killed by a jealous lover who runs the bar she frequents, sounds like a bad anime plot line lol, explains why everyone loves it including me
Dear lord, there were so many 'strings' that just turn out to be actually nothing at all. The world was interesting, but they made so many things seem relevant when they actually weren't.
Then... what, some tape that randomly shows up at the end is the only reason for the end? It doesn't even make sense.
I did enjoy NL commentary through this game a lot though, silver lining.
So the moral of the story is: no matter how radical and profound your ideas are and how innovative and perfectly calculated your business is, it can all be brought down by something as banal as some middle-aged woman's jealousy.
Is rebecca famke janssen?
I know all that stuff about the occult and satanism, drugs etc was pretty much set aside by the ending, yeah yeah....
But what about Simon's SCREWDRIVER? And specially its connection with his homebrew? I think we are all missing the point of this game, just saying...
Detective Jenks for smash brothers?
But why was there tape on the ID at all
Because it was taped to a branch hanging over the water. Did you not watch the video?
But the screwdriver...
25:15 Might be the worst line delivery I've ever heard
Contradiction? More like red herrings
It sucks that fmv are pretty limiting, while also more complicated to make than sitting a 2d or 3d artist down in a room, cause I always was a fan of those type of games.
I enjoyed this but what the fuck. Like all the evidence was there in the first hour, that was everything you needed to know. Simon could have easily ended everything when you showed him the Drivers license the first time. That was like being taken on a fun ride then slapped in the face.
One of the actors got sick and they ran out of money, so they had to totally change and rush the ending :/