As a CA. Native and a Athletics fan it breaks my heart to see them about to leave like every other team in Oakland. The fans are not to blame i mean why would anyone show up when we all know the ownership has no desire to stay. Rooted in Oakland my ass.
I’ve lived in Oakland/Alameda for 23 years. I’ve watched a lot of great baseball at the Coliseum. I’ve seen A’s fans stand and applaud Ichiro after his iconic throw in 2001. I’ve seen A’s fans gloriously boo Pedro Martinez in the playoffs. I’ve seen A’s fans go delirious with happiness when Dallas Braden threw a perfect game and when Scott Hatteberg hit that home run to secure the 20-game win streak. The fans have been here through great times and bad times, too. The fans are not the problem with the A’s. What is the problem, and has always been the problem, is local political and organizational bureaucracy. The A’s and Oakland could have looked across the Bay at what the Giants and SF did with (then-called) Pac Bell Park. Was there a lane grab in that area? Yes. But, what was created in addition to a beautiful ballpark was a revitalized area of the city. Housing, restaurants, shopping…Reasons for people to come to the area before a game, and stay afterwards. But, Oakland’s stepchild-city attitude, frustratingly parochial politics along with a never-ending series of roadblocks and red tape made any progress on a ballpark nearly impossible. Yet, when the Howard Terminal project came about, there appeared to be a sense of new optimism that Oakland, and the A’s, were really going to get something done that would benefit everyone. Even the team adopted this “Rooted In Oakland” campaign to really push its role as Oakland’s Team…This was around the time everyone knew the Raiders were leaving and the Warriors were going to SF. The team even started a new A’s Access membership program that made it easy to get reduced prices on tickets, smaller ticket packages (the 10-game membership was brilliant) and half off all concessions, including beer, wine and booze, and just $10 parking. It really seemed like the team “got it” and wanted to be here for the long term. The A’s were also winners, even in 2020, when they won the division, and in 2021, when they missed the playoffs, but still won almost 90 games. We all know what has happened since. I have been to games this year with just 2,500 people in the stands. The fans want the A’s here, but they have, for the most part, had it with an ownership group which has over the last couple of years decided to pull the rug out from under them at every opportunity. The A’s fans deserve better from their city and their team. But, the team sees “better” in Las Vegas, and the city has shown it really doesn’t want to be better itself.
The last thing that should be blamed is the City when The A’s time and time again shifted stadium sites, shifted budget priorities and needs, and with the BVegas move after refusing to pay for the rest of the offsite infrastructural costs that would’ve been 88 million more than the 395 million already secured by the city of Oakland. the City of Oakland offered Howard Terminal which is a 40+ acre waterfront property, for now a 9 acre stadium site in Vegas which Nevada does not want to fund, offering 180 million instead of the 380 million for the A’s. The A’s refused to maintain the quality of Coliseum and continuously destroyed playoff teams by cheating out on rosters. anyone saying otherwise is shilling hardcore for the team and is looking for an excuse to shit on Oakland while ignoring the fact that The A’s gave the Giants land in order to stay in the Bay Area, now for the SF media to shit on the City of Oakland and fall for Fishers propaganda.
Nevada has shown no interest so far and Fisher and Kaval are doing their whole circus in Las Vegas like the City of Oaklands been dealing with for a decade, as the A’s refused to spend a little extra more to get things finalized only to blame all other parties in a negotiation, Oakland is in a deficit and they asked for more? when we already secured nearly 80% of off-site infrastructure costs while Nevada is offering less land and money than they would’ve gotten here in Oakland?
I had given ownership some benefit of doubt; while some people consistently believed the new ballpark attempt was phony, I tried to give it a chance of being legit. The last year and a half wiped away any consideration of trust in their efforts.
Philadelphia to Kansas City to Oakland to Las Vegas. What a ride for one of the original 8 teams. From 1901 to 2022, the Athletics' overall win-loss record was 9,210-9,654 (.488)
RIP, Vida Blue. He passed away last week. I had personally been to Oakland-Alameda several times in my life. Once before they re-added the football seats, and after the Raiders moved.
From 1988-1992 the A's were among the top in attendance. 1988 10th in mlb. 1989 5th 1990 3rd 1991 4th 1992 5th And even 1993 after players had been traded and attendance dropped to 20th it was still 2,035,025 for the year and 25,124 per game. Then 1994 strike and 1995 coliseum destruction with mount davis happens raiders come back.
@Tony C 2000 a rebuilding team that shocked won the west 24th in mlb 19,911 avg okay not great but came out of nowhere 2001 19th 26,337pg over 2.1mil 2002 18th 26,788pg over 2.1mil 2003 16th 27,365pg over 2.2mil 2004 19th 27,179pg over 2.2mil 2005 20th 26,038pg over 2.1mil Before you say only 20 years ago 2012 after the team had another firesale 3rd at the time since '93 2012 20,729pg shock west win 2013 22,337pg 1.8mil 2014 24,736 over 2mil then cespedes trade and firesale at the end of the season. Fans started to buy in and show up again, and you blow it up. 2015 falls to 21,829pg 1.7 And then the Chapman and Olson teams started to bring fans back 2017 was 18,219 and the Jump to 2018 was 19,427pg. 2019 20,626pg with the wildcard game having 54,005. And then the team was blown up again after 2021. People say all the time vote with your wallet show them you don't support this constant mess and trades to where you know no one is going to be here for more than 2-3 years max and then those same people hold it against us for having trust issues with management and attendance figures.
The Giants had a million plus from 1958 to 1967. That's when one million in attendance was a very big deal. And the first two years were at Seals Stadium, not Candlestick, that had nearly twice as many seats.
If I was a billionaire, I'd put a new MLB team back in Oakland, give it the same colors and a name that starts with an A, and have a statue of John Fisher out front that was open to the fans to do whatever they wanted to it.
The fact that USL team that was mistrated worst than the Baseball team still wants to stay at point they WILL BULID A TEMPORARY STADIUM JUST TO NOT HAVE TO LEAVE shows how USL is doing things better MLB/MiLB If one day soccer supass baseball, the actual Oakland sports situation will be one of the reasons of it
@@superninja252they are a clear example of that from looking at their unimpressive and boring stadium located next to an airport. It’s obvious Fisher really doesn’t care about the fans of his teams.
Sad stuff... When I was in little league and a bit older we used to have uniforms like the A's and it's sad to see them go out like this with how much history they have. Some of the best players of all time wore those colors 😢
I grew up with the A's and Giants. I was a kid during the Moneyball era which was one of the most powerful eras of Oakland baseball. It was also a turning point for the A's shitty luck. I went to a few games at the Coliseum. It was a dump back then but it was our dump. Lot of memories with my grandpa who passed in 2012. I left alot of those memories behind as I got older and moved to Portland but now seeing the state of them now, it kinda hits me in the feels a bit. I'm more of a Giants fan but God if I don't have a soft spot for the A's. Tanks for the memories! Also, sidebar...to add insult to injury, the Moneyball movie is only on Prime Video for 12 more days. Oof!
I'm a Giants fan, but all my best baseball memeries are at the Coliseum / Network Associates Stadium. Getting Rod Beck's warm up ball as went out for a save. (We'd mostly go to interleague Giants @ A's games because it was way cheaper & a far better experience, weather-wise, until AT&T opened.) Running over to right field because it was the Sammy Sosa./ McGuire race, and yelling things so foul at him (just cursing as a pre-teen) that he actually turned around & looked directly at me with bewilderment, as I laughed like Bart Simpson getting one over on Moe.
I love how everyone props Moneyball up like it was something that was successful. They won nothing. That team should’ve won at least two world titles and they won zero. To me, they failed. And they’re paying for it now.
The MLB playoffs are a crapshoot. They are heavily based on luck. It’s quite naive to say that they should have won rings during that era when short series are used to determine champions instead of months of play, which are necessary for determining the best team.
@@thekingbarrelmaker7642 look at how stacked some of those teams were. And look at some of the teams that won world championships during the Moneyball era. The Marlins. The White Sox. The 06 Cardinals. The Angels. And some of the teams that made the series, like the 07 Rockies and the 10 Giants. You mean to tell me that the A’s were worse than any of those teams? That’s bullshit.
@@chrisp679 you didn’t bother to read my comment. October baseball is hugely a tournament of LUCK. It’s hard to blame them for losing a stupid tournament that crowns the luckiest team rather than the best team. You can have the best team on paper in October yet it doesn’t matter because in a five or seven game series, a significantly inferior team has a legitimate chance at advancing due to the luck factor. And if moneyball was such a failure, why did so many teams, including the ‘04 Red Sox, use the methods that the A’s used during the moneyball era? Personally, I’d rather say that my team CHANGED the game with revolutionary principles instead of boast about them winning a trophy or trophies due to luck.
@@thekingbarrelmaker7642 I read your comment. The point you missed was that yes, other teams did what the A’s couldn’t do with the same system. That reinforces my point that they were a colossal failure.
Oakland was coined "the luckiest city since Hiroshima" by Missouri Sen. Stuart Symington when the team left Kansas City. Given time, he was proven right.
It was all a con. As had good attendance in KC, but the stadium was old. Charlie Finley wanted the glitter of a new stadium, and that was the Coliseum then. Then it became the Colisewer with age.
@@ldfreitas9437 If Finley was willing to stay, he was about to get a new stadium along with the Chiefs. He was looking to move the team all along and his actions were proof of that.
As a sports fanatic it's so easy to get bent out of shape with your team. But to have the team that you love show such carelessness that it eventually leads to the franchise moving, that is so shitty on such a deeper level than most of us could imagine. It's really sad too because there are plenty of owners in the MLB who are just as shitty and vindictive. In a perfect world these people would be ousted from the league but instead they stay there because they're buddies with other owners. And the MLB wonders why they can't appeal to new fans.
As an A's Fan since i was a kid.. My heart is broken lol 😢💔 even though i live in Vegas now ( originally from California ) i still want them to stay in Oakland.
The Athletics are one of the founding teams of the American League. I believe the only other founding member that moved was the Washington Senators. the A's have now moved three times, Philly to KC, KC to Oakland, and now Oakland to Vegas. They're an eternal vagabond for whatever reason. Fitting that one of the team symbols is the white elephant, representing a seemingly rich and prestigious prize that costs way more to keep than it's actually worth.
You ever come across one of those stories--maybe in anime or comics or other media--where a hero and villain who're two fierce fighters are bitter enemies, but still have enough respect for each other to the point where, when the life of one of them takes a turn for the destitute, the other is so shocked at how far they've fallen that they can't help but feel pity and anger for their situation? As a Mariners fan, I've been feeling that way about the A's a lot lately.
After 2018, the A's loudly quit their radio partner (95.7 The Game), making a snarky tweet dumping them "it's not us, it's you". They thought they could easily find a new station. They couldn't, so they briefly decided to be the ONLY team to not have any local terrestrial radio home, and go exclusively online streaming. That idea quickly failed, and they eventually had to settle for a conservative talk radio AM station with barely any signal. The hubris of team management was not hard to miss.
Lived near Oakland when the jack London square thing was sounding promising, damn shame that it never happened. Oakland has a shifty reputation for good reason, but that area is really nice. Would’ve been a great place to see a game. Too bad.
I wonder if you will ever do a video about the Arizona Coyotes situation. It is a hotly contested topic within Arizona right now between Coyotes fans and Tempe locals. My take on the debate is the Coyotes owner's sketchy track record and their lack of winning the past decade are key reasons why the city shot them down. If say, they were consistent Stanley Cup contenders, I think they would've had a much better chance of getting their stadium built.
@@joermnyc it depends though, the current ownership still committed in Arizona, there are still Phoenix, Scottsdale, and Mesa left... After that he's gonna relocating the team for sure... It's gonna happen either this year or next year...
Doesn’t help that people who were against the arena were straight up lying to voters, the main push was the new Yotes arena and district would absolutely drain the city and its taxpayers money while getting rid of jobs. The new arena and district was not going to use a single dime of taxpayers money and the arena and district would literally create jobs. Now that they voted no, they get stuck with a landfill and people celebrating that jobs weren’t taken and their taxpayer wasn’t going into the arena (WHICH NEVER WAS GOING TO HAPPEN IN THE FIRST PLACE), this is exactly why no in Az takes Tempe seriously. Yotes have already looked into building in Mesa which would be on private land and be privately funded
I still get goosebumps hearing Dan Dickerson making the call on 97.1 the ticket. It was magical watching my then 8 year old son going crazy in our living room as his heros were going to the world series. Just a magical night!
To be fair the had just moved from KC 3 years prior. Their attendance was middle of the road for the AL over that period. Additionally Oakland is not a huge city. The Giants had already moved into the bay area and built a decent following when the A's came to town. There was also the 49ers, raiders (depending what years we talk about) who had well established fan bases. The bay area really struggled to support all of these teams and especially since the A's were the last to come in (not counting the sharks who at least had access to the San Jose market which is quite a bit bigger and bit more isolated). The A's peaked in popularity with the bash brothers but never got that level after they were disbanded. Everything slowly deterioted from there. They still had somewhat decent attendance in competitive years. The problem was with the lack player retention, the pit that is the coliseum and the less than pleasant location. You cannot expect strong attendance from casual fans. They still had real diehards but to get butts in seats you need to get the casual fan who will bring family or friends. Oakland was not that. Especially when the giants got their new pretty ballpark and eventually won 3 in 5 years. It's tough. If things had been different they could have survived but just didn't work out. Consider that LA which is a way bigger market is unable to attract any significant number of fans for the rams or chargers. It's a difficult move to make to any new market but especially to one with established teams or sports culture. If Oakland were far away from any other pro sports team they would probably do better but the issues are multifaceted and a move to a less-saturated one like Vegas is clearly to tempting for our ownership.
I laughed when you called the raiders stint in Vegas a success. As mark Davis is expressing buyers remorse. Especially when the raiders “fans” leave in the 3rd quarter
The team was valued at 2.9 billion when they left Oakland, it’s now worth 5.1 billion, it’s awfully bold of you to think that Mark Davis has any care for the fans leaving, and instead is just happily chilling with his over 2 billion dollar in value net gain
@@tanner5809places like phoenix and Vegas have residents from other states, when raiders play in Az half the stadium is raider fans especially when the cowboys visit, I don’t know why people think as soon as a city gets a new team they’re going automatically switch teams. It took az 17 years to get a small fan base
The Raiders are as aimless as the Chargers... and the A's think they're going to compete with the Knights and Raiders in the desert? Lol. Waste of water.
It's hard to believe that the Oakland A's history involved 9 World Series titles, yet they are seen as a bottom of a barrel team with little regard for their history.
It’s an interesting narrative that gets painted where taxpayers don’t want to subsidize a greedy owner’s personal tax free playground that somehow the city and the fans don’t want the team.
Haven't watched the video yet but I hope they talk about how former part owner with Fisher, Lee Wolf was roommates with Bud Selig in college and Bud promised to help build a stadium in Oakland and Bud is a notorious boob and never stepped in, lew sold his shares of the team
Damn, I remember that 19 inning game, I watched the whole thing. Brett Anderson was going to be the starter, but was scratched shortly before first pitch. He ended up pitching 5 innings in extras. The game ended around 1:30AM.
watching this to find energy to stick with my road to the show save. 4 years of winning silver sluggers, out doing barry bonds, still not a single winning record in sight. I love that the game perfectly captures the Oakland dread. 3 more years...
Philadelphia, Kansas City, Oakland, Sacramento, Las Vegas, and wherever they go to after that. If the A's ever come back to Philly, I'm sure the Phillies will share citizens bank with them just like the A's shared Shibe park with the Phils.
Good historical evaluation! Have been a fan for decades. I’m one of the folks holding a sign at the 1 minute and 10 minute mark of the video. Thank you 🙏 ⚾️
They opened the original stadium around 1968. Then they started to do the home run/victory fireworks in 1971 or maybe so, and definitely in 1972 to 1974 to entertain fans--this is when the Oakland As won the World Series in these 3 years. And then, as the As went to the postseason in 1980 (maybe), not even arena rock concerts in the 1970s at that stadium (remember when the red-hot Lynyrd Skynyrd rocked the stadium) would help things for that building later on. Part of the demise of the stadium was very bad attendance records--this is because you need fans to fill the stadium--the ticket prices are there to offset the stadium costs.
At the time of 1971 to 1974, the As did not have an exploding scoreboard (despite the 2 Jumbotrons) per se, but the stadium fireworks, when shot, would be fired at a pyrotechnic launching site at roughly behind the right field stands of the stadium. When the fireworks went boom as the As won the 1973 WS Game 1, the bursts of smoke moved by way of the wind to center field, but it was shot off from R field. When the As won 1972 WS Game 4, a single fireworks finale volley happened that lasted roughly 8-9 seconds. 3 fireworks volleys were used for homers usually, but of course, in Game 5 of the 1972 WS, the 3rd Gene Tenace homer caused an additional pyro volley to happen - a total of 4 volleys, for Charles Finley himself! A few of the exceptions here.
Became an A’s fan around 2011-2012. Such an interesting team that was a piece or two away from a title. I remember trading for Jon Lester like it was yesterday, it was so shocking to see them actually go all in for one year. So proud to be a fan of them, and unfortunately in Oakland, ownership will not spend the money or retain key assets. Hopefully that changes in LV with more revenue.
To think Oakland used to have a team from every major league. Now all are gone (or will be soon enough) and none will ever be coming back. No more Oakland anythings.
As the last season for the A's is honestly a complete disaster being 25-67 at the All-Star Break, honestly hope they can pull themselves together before the end of the year
Reggie Jackson tried to buy the A's. He put together a group of billionaires. Reggie's group said that they would beat any offer for the A's. The MLB chose to go with a lower offer. Bug Selig gave the A's to one of his friends. If Reggie was allowed to buy the team the A's wouldn't be leaving Oakland.
I love you man....but that stadium in Oakland has reached the end of it's usefulness, and thus there still would be the need for a new stadium, If Reggie Jackson & his group were able to buy the team, there would not be a guarantee that they would have taken the Las Vegas route....
Bud Selig does/did like to cut his buddies a deal. After Tom Werner ran the Padres into the ground as managing partner there, Bud Ok'd him to be part of John Henry's ownership group with the Red Sox a few years later....
@@bourque801 hahaha. I get what your saying. I'm running under the assumption that Reggie's group would have been more motivated to build a new stadium in Oakland. Thanks to Bud we will never know.
I watched the Golden Knights playoff round opener against the oilers and they put a LOT more effort into their intro than any other team in the league does. Even the raiders to some degree try harder to appeal more than they did in oakland. Oakland is the new detroit in the united states.
Problem with Oakland as a whole is that it is the city that is basically there because all of the surrounding cities are successful. That’s why Oakland always falls behind as it doesn’t have what San Jose or San Francisco has in terms of companies. And Oakland is also bad at being a second tier city as Sacramento has taken its spot as NorCal’s best second tier city.
@Five Point Vids, Thank You For Showing Love To ( The Former ) Oakland Athletics. My Most Memorable Game I Attended As A Kid At The Coliseum Was July 5th,1992. Rickey Henderson Hit A Leadoff HR In Both Games Of A Double Header Against The Indian's ( Now Know As The Guardians ). So Much Sport's History Has Occurred In That Area Where The Coliseum, & The Roaracle What's A Trip Is That Lebron Won A NBA Title At The Roaracle Before Steph. Curry Did.
Unfortunately the movie based on the Oakland A's was the demise of this organization and they are trying to ride the tails of the Raiders which would not fare well in the city of Las Vegas.....$AD!!!
While the A’s are famous for Moneyball, they should be applauded for their scouting system. It always makes me mad/proud when I see former player excelling.
Who's to blame for this mess? The City of Oakland for not planning a baseball-only facility much sooner including 1995 when Al Davis moved the Raiders back to Oakland from Los Angeles and letting Al erect Mount Davis to the Oakland Coliseum with locations like Jack London Square. The A's ownership since Walter A. Haas died in 1995 for not considering other cities within Alameda County like Fremont or Dublin deserves blame too.
This team sucks the soul out of me and baseball, yet it’s not the players, nor the coaches. It’s fisher. Nobody would buy the A’s if they go to Vegas. Or at least they shouldn’t. Btw the last clip makes me sad because I hear Ray Fossey’s voice. Fly high Foss
I am actually heading to Oakland in a few weeks to watch a game at the Mausoleum. I'm morbidly curious to experience a game there before fthey head to Vegas.
The big Elephant in the Room is the fact that Oakland is part of the San Francisco Metropolitan Area. And its almost impossible for Metro Areas to sustain more than 1 Team in each major league (even New York & Los Angeles have struggled to maintain 2 in a single major league). That's why its was inevitable that the Raiders & A's would relocate elsewhere outside the Bay Area. This excuse doesn't apply to the Golden State Warriors of course.
I get where they are coming from, but I think it was a mistake for the city to cease negotiations. They are basically saying "leave we don't care." They should've kept them open, cause that waterfront stadium looks far better than anything you could build in Vegas, because of the water.
My dad was a heartbroken 12 year old when the A's left in 1967 and to this day doesn't have a lot of good things to say about Charlie Finlay. It really doesn't seem like anybody really wants the A's, the owners included.
@@Gemnist98 He has. He went to some of the early games when Municipal Stadium was still around and he's been ever since. The front office, however, is a different story (for the obvious reasons).
I lived 18 years in Alameda, and 22 years in Oakland, and there has always been an underlying narrative that Oakland was a dangerous city because they had more black people, The Giants were super close to moving to Tampa, then the city produced some corporate welfare to keep them.
I hope that if any major team decides to come back to Oakland the people there finally decide to show any time of appreciation and support to them, seeing the A's have terrible attendance even in their playoff seasons (and there was a lot of them) was pitiful
@@SuperRainbolwhy in the hell would fans show appreciation and support to an ownership group who trades or doesn’t resign fan fav players, doesn’t spend, constantly threatens relocation, pinches every penny possible, lies to fans and is content with never winning as long as they stay on revenue sharing. We’re fed up. If you think the fans are why the athletics are leaving then you’re simply misinformed
@@SuperRainbol The stadium ( if you can call it that) has been rotting for 2 decades. The Warriors fans sold out Oracle during the heart of the dynasty. Oakland has good fans, they just don't always have the money to spend on a team that shows as little interest as the A's have in the last 5 years. I don't know how you explain the 70's other than that team had moved 2 times in the previous decade so perhaps the natives thought that they would move again.
The A’s could move out in 2025 to play 2 seasons in their AAA ballpark in Summerlin (a few miles west of Downtown Vegas). It’s only a 10k seat facility, but they can’t get 10k fans in Oakland anymore anyhow!
"They dont have money" No they refuse to spend the money, theres a difference. As clever as money ball was all it did was allow ownership to he cheap and try to spend as little as they wanted.
They did. They literally gave them $375 million in grant money for the project with Covid and Inflation the price raised and instead of doing a meeting where they were both going to come together to solve the $80-90 million dollar gap what happened? A’s purchased land in Vegas
Thanks for the shout out broski!🔥
Dude keep fighting the fight! I see you putting your heart out for your team!!!
@@FivePointsVids did you catch that snag homie had over the Razor Ramon sign?
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man, imagine having 3 professional sports teams just abandon your city like that
It sucks bad enough but to have it happen 3 times in a decade is beyond the pale.
Location location location...
Seriously, I am surprised this has not happened in Detroit already.
@@MimesAgainstHunmanity Where would those teams move to ? at this point the sunbelt is mostly full.
Actually 4, anyone forgetting the NHL & WHL California / Oakland / California Golden Seals
As a CA. Native and a Athletics fan it breaks my heart to see them about to leave like every other team in Oakland. The fans are not to blame i mean why would anyone show up when we all know the ownership has no desire to stay. Rooted in Oakland my ass.
I’ve lived in Oakland/Alameda for 23 years. I’ve watched a lot of great baseball at the Coliseum. I’ve seen A’s fans stand and applaud Ichiro after his iconic throw in 2001. I’ve seen A’s fans gloriously boo Pedro Martinez in the playoffs. I’ve seen A’s fans go delirious with happiness when Dallas Braden threw a perfect game and when Scott Hatteberg hit that home run to secure the 20-game win streak. The fans have been here through great times and bad times, too.
The fans are not the problem with the A’s.
What is the problem, and has always been the problem, is local political and organizational bureaucracy. The A’s and Oakland could have looked across the Bay at what the Giants and SF did with (then-called) Pac Bell Park. Was there a lane grab in that area? Yes. But, what was created in addition to a beautiful ballpark was a revitalized area of the city. Housing, restaurants, shopping…Reasons for people to come to the area before a game, and stay afterwards. But, Oakland’s stepchild-city attitude, frustratingly parochial politics along with a never-ending series of roadblocks and red tape made any progress on a ballpark nearly impossible. Yet, when the Howard Terminal project came about, there appeared to be a sense of new optimism that Oakland, and the A’s, were really going to get something done that would benefit everyone.
Even the team adopted this “Rooted In Oakland” campaign to really push its role as Oakland’s Team…This was around the time everyone knew the Raiders were leaving and the Warriors were going to SF. The team even started a new A’s Access membership program that made it easy to get reduced prices on tickets, smaller ticket packages (the 10-game membership was brilliant) and half off all concessions, including beer, wine and booze, and just $10 parking. It really seemed like the team “got it” and wanted to be here for the long term. The A’s were also winners, even in 2020, when they won the division, and in 2021, when they missed the playoffs, but still won almost 90 games.
We all know what has happened since. I have been to games this year with just 2,500 people in the stands. The fans want the A’s here, but they have, for the most part, had it with an ownership group which has over the last couple of years decided to pull the rug out from under them at every opportunity. The A’s fans deserve better from their city and their team. But, the team sees “better” in Las Vegas, and the city has shown it really doesn’t want to be better itself.
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The last thing that should be blamed is the City when The A’s time and time again shifted stadium sites, shifted budget priorities and needs, and with the BVegas move after refusing to pay for the rest of the offsite infrastructural costs that would’ve been 88 million more than the 395 million already secured by the city of Oakland. the City of Oakland offered Howard Terminal which is a 40+ acre waterfront property, for now a 9 acre stadium site in Vegas which Nevada does not want to fund, offering 180 million instead of the 380 million for the A’s. The A’s refused to maintain the quality of Coliseum and continuously destroyed playoff teams by cheating out on rosters. anyone saying otherwise is shilling hardcore for the team and is looking for an excuse to shit on Oakland while ignoring the fact that The A’s gave the Giants land in order to stay in the Bay Area, now for the SF media to shit on the City of Oakland and fall for Fishers propaganda.
Nevada has shown no interest so far and Fisher and Kaval are doing their whole circus in Las Vegas like the City of Oaklands been dealing with for a decade, as the A’s refused to spend a little extra more to get things finalized only to blame all other parties in a negotiation, Oakland is in a deficit and they asked for more? when we already secured nearly 80% of off-site infrastructure costs while Nevada is offering less land and money than they would’ve gotten here in Oakland?
I had given ownership some benefit of doubt; while some people consistently believed the new ballpark attempt was phony, I tried to give it a chance of being legit. The last year and a half wiped away any consideration of trust in their efforts.
@@randallwong7196 remember when the prematurely announced Laney college as a stadium site? Without asking Peralta or giving anyone a heads up at all?
Philadelphia to Kansas City to Oakland to Las Vegas. What a ride for one of the original 8 teams. From 1901 to 2022, the Athletics' overall win-loss record was 9,210-9,654 (.488)
RIP, Vida Blue. He passed away last week. I had personally been to Oakland-Alameda several times in my life. Once before they re-added the football seats, and after the Raiders moved.
Also the captain Sal Bando RIP
From 1988-1992 the A's were among the top in attendance.
1988 10th in mlb.
1989 5th
1990 3rd
1991 4th
1992 5th
And even 1993 after players had been traded and attendance dropped to 20th it was still 2,035,025 for the year and 25,124 per game. Then 1994 strike and 1995 coliseum destruction with mount davis happens raiders come back.
The fact you had to go back 35 years is laughable. Any good attendance this century?
@Tony C 2000 a rebuilding team that shocked won the west 24th in mlb 19,911 avg okay not great but came out of nowhere
2001 19th 26,337pg over 2.1mil
2002 18th 26,788pg over 2.1mil
2003 16th 27,365pg over 2.2mil
2004 19th 27,179pg over 2.2mil
2005 20th 26,038pg over 2.1mil
Before you say only 20 years ago
2012 after the team had another firesale 3rd at the time since '93
2012 20,729pg shock west win
2013 22,337pg 1.8mil
2014 24,736 over 2mil then cespedes trade and firesale at the end of the season. Fans started to buy in and show up again, and you blow it up.
2015 falls to 21,829pg 1.7
And then the Chapman and Olson teams started to bring fans back
2017 was 18,219 and the Jump to
2018 was 19,427pg.
2019 20,626pg with the wildcard game having 54,005. And then the team was blown up again after 2021. People say all the time vote with your wallet show them you don't support this constant mess and trades to where you know no one is going to be here for more than 2-3 years max and then those same people hold it against us for having trust issues with management and attendance figures.
@@rtyable So no... Oakland hasn't attended games in decades. They need to move.
@@tonyc8752 because they built mount Davis and started sabotaging the team including corrupt owners. You expect fans to support that? Lmao
The Giants had a million plus from 1958 to 1967. That's when one million in attendance was a very big deal. And the first two years were at Seals Stadium, not Candlestick, that had nearly twice as many seats.
And yet - they are still the most success team in Philadelphia sports history.
If I was a billionaire, I'd put a new MLB team back in Oakland, give it the same colors and a name that starts with an A, and have a statue of John Fisher out front that was open to the fans to do whatever they wanted to it.
Ppl will take dumps on in without permission don't you worry. It's california
Dream on.
John fisher urinals
Pero resulta que no lo sos.
First you would have to clean up the city of Oakland.
The Oakland Roots USL Championship soccer team is really picking up steam there!
To the point that they might join MLS someday (though the SJ Earthquakes might have something to say about that)
The fact that USL team that was mistrated worst than the Baseball team still wants to stay at point they WILL BULID A TEMPORARY STADIUM JUST TO NOT HAVE TO LEAVE shows how USL is doing things better MLB/MiLB
If one day soccer supass baseball, the actual Oakland sports situation will be one of the reasons of it
@@chrisguardiano6143 Ironically the SJ is also owned by Fisher
@@superninja252they are a clear example of that from looking at their unimpressive and boring stadium located next to an airport. It’s obvious Fisher really doesn’t care about the fans of his teams.
@@superninja252Would love Oakland to get an MLS team in OCo. Imagining the "Fisher sucks" chants when they play the Earthquake.
Sad stuff... When I was in little league and a bit older we used to have uniforms like the A's and it's sad to see them go out like this with how much history they have. Some of the best players of all time wore those colors 😢
I grew up with the A's and Giants. I was a kid during the Moneyball era which was one of the most powerful eras of Oakland baseball. It was also a turning point for the A's shitty luck. I went to a few games at the Coliseum. It was a dump back then but it was our dump. Lot of memories with my grandpa who passed in 2012. I left alot of those memories behind as I got older and moved to Portland but now seeing the state of them now, it kinda hits me in the feels a bit. I'm more of a Giants fan but God if I don't have a soft spot for the A's. Tanks for the memories!
Also, sidebar...to add insult to injury, the Moneyball movie is only on Prime Video for 12 more days. Oof!
I'm a Giants fan, but all my best baseball memeries are at the Coliseum / Network Associates Stadium.
Getting Rod Beck's warm up ball as went out for a save. (We'd mostly go to interleague Giants @ A's games because it was way cheaper & a far better experience, weather-wise, until AT&T opened.)
Running over to right field because it was the Sammy Sosa./ McGuire race, and yelling things so foul at him (just cursing as a pre-teen) that he actually turned around & looked directly at me with bewilderment, as I laughed like Bart Simpson getting one over on Moe.
It's crazy to think that when the A's were in Philly, they were arguably more popular than the Phillies for most of their time there.
Time to bring them back to Philly!
I love how everyone props Moneyball up like it was something that was successful.
They won nothing. That team should’ve won at least two world titles and they won zero. To me, they failed. And they’re paying for it now.
@CWS and TKP 66-02 it’s not even two months in. Let’s not go crazy here.
The MLB playoffs are a crapshoot. They are heavily based on luck. It’s quite naive to say that they should have won rings during that era when short series are used to determine champions instead of months of play, which are necessary for determining the best team.
@@thekingbarrelmaker7642 look at how stacked some of those teams were. And look at some of the teams that won world championships during the Moneyball era. The Marlins. The White Sox. The 06 Cardinals. The Angels. And some of the teams that made the series, like the 07 Rockies and the 10 Giants. You mean to tell me that the A’s were worse than any of those teams? That’s bullshit.
@@chrisp679 you didn’t bother to read my comment. October baseball is hugely a tournament of LUCK. It’s hard to blame them for losing a stupid tournament that crowns the luckiest team rather than the best team. You can have the best team on paper in October yet it doesn’t matter because in a five or seven game series, a significantly inferior team has a legitimate chance at advancing due to the luck factor.
And if moneyball was such a failure, why did so many teams, including the ‘04 Red Sox, use the methods that the A’s used during the moneyball era? Personally, I’d rather say that my team CHANGED the game with revolutionary principles instead of boast about them winning a trophy or trophies due to luck.
@@thekingbarrelmaker7642 I read your comment.
The point you missed was that yes, other teams did what the A’s couldn’t do with the same system. That reinforces my point that they were a colossal failure.
Oakland was coined "the luckiest city since Hiroshima" by Missouri Sen. Stuart Symington when the team left Kansas City. Given time, he was proven right.
It was all a con. As had good attendance in KC, but the stadium was old. Charlie Finley wanted the glitter of a new stadium, and that was the Coliseum then. Then it became the Colisewer with age.
@@ldfreitas9437 If Finley was willing to stay, he was about to get a new stadium along with the Chiefs. He was looking to move the team all along and his actions were proof of that.
As a sports fanatic it's so easy to get bent out of shape with your team. But to have the team that you love show such carelessness that it eventually leads to the franchise moving, that is so shitty on such a deeper level than most of us could imagine. It's really sad too because there are plenty of owners in the MLB who are just as shitty and vindictive. In a perfect world these people would be ousted from the league but instead they stay there because they're buddies with other owners. And the MLB wonders why they can't appeal to new fans.
As an A's Fan since i was a kid.. My heart is broken lol 😢💔 even though i live in Vegas now ( originally from California ) i still want them to stay in Oakland.
The Athletics are one of the founding teams of the American League. I believe the only other founding member that moved was the Washington Senators. the A's have now moved three times, Philly to KC, KC to Oakland, and now Oakland to Vegas. They're an eternal vagabond for whatever reason. Fitting that one of the team symbols is the white elephant, representing a seemingly rich and prestigious prize that costs way more to keep than it's actually worth.
Try the Rochester/Cincinnati Royals/Kansas City/Sacramento Kings. Same franchise, four different cities.
You ever come across one of those stories--maybe in anime or comics or other media--where a hero and villain who're two fierce fighters are bitter enemies, but still have enough respect for each other to the point where, when the life of one of them takes a turn for the destitute, the other is so shocked at how far they've fallen that they can't help but feel pity and anger for their situation? As a Mariners fan, I've been feeling that way about the A's a lot lately.
After 2018, the A's loudly quit their radio partner (95.7 The Game), making a snarky tweet dumping them "it's not us, it's you". They thought they could easily find a new station. They couldn't, so they briefly decided to be the ONLY team to not have any local terrestrial radio home, and go exclusively online streaming. That idea quickly failed, and they eventually had to settle for a conservative talk radio AM station with barely any signal. The hubris of team management was not hard to miss.
Lived near Oakland when the jack London square thing was sounding promising, damn shame that it never happened. Oakland has a shifty reputation for good reason, but that area is really nice. Would’ve been a great place to see a game.
Too bad.
I wonder if you will ever do a video about the Arizona Coyotes situation. It is a hotly contested topic within Arizona right now between Coyotes fans and Tempe locals. My take on the debate is the Coyotes owner's sketchy track record and their lack of winning the past decade are key reasons why the city shot them down. If say, they were consistent Stanley Cup contenders, I think they would've had a much better chance of getting their stadium built.
Salt Lake City wants an NHL team (and a baseball team), but they seem to not be interested in the Coyotes. Ouch.
@@joermnyc Most likely for the same reasons.
@@joermnyc it depends though, the current ownership still committed in Arizona, there are still Phoenix, Scottsdale, and Mesa left... After that he's gonna relocating the team for sure... It's gonna happen either this year or next year...
@@joermnycWe've got an arena ready to go. Hockey would do well here.✌️🇺🇲
Doesn’t help that people who were against the arena were straight up lying to voters, the main push was the new Yotes arena and district would absolutely drain the city and its taxpayers money while getting rid of jobs.
The new arena and district was not going to use a single dime of taxpayers money and the arena and district would literally create jobs.
Now that they voted no, they get stuck with a landfill and people celebrating that jobs weren’t taken and their taxpayer wasn’t going into the arena (WHICH NEVER WAS GOING TO HAPPEN IN THE FIRST PLACE), this is exactly why no in Az takes Tempe seriously.
Yotes have already looked into building in Mesa which would be on private land and be privately funded
As a yankees fan i feel sad for Oakland athletics that are not doing a new stadium and moving to las Vegas. Very sad indeed
That Ordonez homerun may still be my favorite baseball moment of all time. It cemented me as a a Tigers fan.
Gives me chills hearing that homerun call
I still get goosebumps hearing Dan Dickerson making the call on 97.1 the ticket. It was magical watching my then 8 year old son going crazy in our living room as his heros were going to the world series. Just a magical night!
ok dude we get it. your team makes the world series sometimes
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@@lionsfan7500 Last time I checked one team wins the World Series every year,, Yippeekayaaa🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉
As a Seattle and Vegas fan, it'll be interesting figuring out who to go for since the Mariners and As are in the same division
The A's had one of the best teams in history, between 1971-1975, and their attendance was horrific
and their games were not broadcasted locally due to their owner
To be fair the had just moved from KC 3 years prior. Their attendance was middle of the road for the AL over that period. Additionally Oakland is not a huge city. The Giants had already moved into the bay area and built a decent following when the A's came to town. There was also the 49ers, raiders (depending what years we talk about) who had well established fan bases. The bay area really struggled to support all of these teams and especially since the A's were the last to come in (not counting the sharks who at least had access to the San Jose market which is quite a bit bigger and bit more isolated).
The A's peaked in popularity with the bash brothers but never got that level after they were disbanded. Everything slowly deterioted from there. They still had somewhat decent attendance in competitive years. The problem was with the lack player retention, the pit that is the coliseum and the less than pleasant location. You cannot expect strong attendance from casual fans. They still had real diehards but to get butts in seats you need to get the casual fan who will bring family or friends. Oakland was not that. Especially when the giants got their new pretty ballpark and eventually won 3 in 5 years. It's tough. If things had been different they could have survived but just didn't work out. Consider that LA which is a way bigger market is unable to attract any significant number of fans for the rams or chargers. It's a difficult move to make to any new market but especially to one with established teams or sports culture. If Oakland were far away from any other pro sports team they would probably do better but the issues are multifaceted and a move to a less-saturated one like Vegas is clearly to tempting for our ownership.
The A's also had one of the best teams in history between 1988-1992, though they only had one World Series
@@anthony_rivera4735 and got swept by the reds!
@@retroguy3344 wire to wire baby!
Sadly I watched the very last game in Oakland here in September 2024. At least I got to see Crazy George again!!!
I laughed when you called the raiders stint in Vegas a success. As mark Davis is expressing buyers remorse.
Especially when the raiders “fans” leave in the 3rd quarter
The team was valued at 2.9 billion when they left Oakland, it’s now worth 5.1 billion, it’s awfully bold of you to think that Mark Davis has any care for the fans leaving, and instead is just happily chilling with his over 2 billion dollar in value net gain
What do you mean? The only fans in that stadium is the visiting team’s, making it a home game for that team lmao
@@tanner5809 and Mark Davis doesn’t give a damn, cuz it’s all about the money
@@tanner5809places like phoenix and Vegas have residents from other states, when raiders play in Az half the stadium is raider fans especially when the cowboys visit, I don’t know why people think as soon as a city gets a new team they’re going automatically switch teams. It took az 17 years to get a small fan base
The Raiders are as aimless as the Chargers... and the A's think they're going to compete with the Knights and Raiders in the desert? Lol.
Waste of water.
Man, I feel bad for A’s fans. I couldn’t imagine my team breaking my heart like that.
A's have really had more success in the past 15 years than 2/3s of the MLB still. LOL
It's hard to believe that the Oakland A's history involved 9 World Series titles, yet they are seen as a bottom of a barrel team with little regard for their history.
It’s an interesting narrative that gets painted where taxpayers don’t want to subsidize a greedy owner’s personal tax free playground that somehow the city and the fans don’t want the team.
Well it's kinda true.
Its sad to see the team leave but thanks for the memories good or bad 🫡
CarGo never got the Rocks a WS, so he has always been a classic A's player.
Haven't watched the video yet but I hope they talk about how former part owner with Fisher, Lee Wolf was roommates with Bud Selig in college and Bud promised to help build a stadium in Oakland and Bud is a notorious boob and never stepped in, lew sold his shares of the team
Lew Wolf*
Damn, I remember that 19 inning game, I watched the whole thing. Brett Anderson was going to be the starter, but was scratched shortly before first pitch. He ended up pitching 5 innings in extras. The game ended around 1:30AM.
As an a’s fan I’m so depressed about this
Great video. You should make a whole team history series.
watching this to find energy to stick with my road to the show save. 4 years of winning silver sluggers, out doing barry bonds, still not a single winning record in sight. I love that the game perfectly captures the Oakland dread. 3 more years...
2:32 Bill Nye the time traveling guy (on the left)
Philadelphia, Kansas City, Oakland, Sacramento, Las Vegas, and wherever they go to after that.
If the A's ever come back to Philly, I'm sure the Phillies will share citizens bank with them just like the A's shared Shibe park with the Phils.
Good historical evaluation! Have been a fan for decades. I’m one of the folks holding a sign at the 1 minute and 10 minute mark of the video. Thank you 🙏 ⚾️
My favorite tigers memory all time. Glad you put that in there lol. Tigers and As had some good battles in the postseason
While ownership owns most of the blame for the move to Vegas, the city itself isn't blameless, they couldn't get a new stadium built
5:40 ...I wasn't ready for that at all LMAO
Dang the not holding on to prospects really reminded me of the early 2000s Royals
Thanks for the thoughtful video, Five.
They opened the original stadium around 1968. Then they started to do the home run/victory fireworks in 1971 or maybe so, and definitely in 1972 to 1974 to entertain fans--this is when the Oakland As won the World Series in these 3 years. And then, as the As went to the postseason in 1980 (maybe), not even arena rock concerts in the 1970s at that stadium (remember when the red-hot Lynyrd Skynyrd rocked the stadium) would help things for that building later on. Part of the demise of the stadium was very bad attendance records--this is because you need fans to fill the stadium--the ticket prices are there to offset the stadium costs.
At the time of 1971 to 1974, the As did not have an exploding scoreboard (despite the 2 Jumbotrons) per se, but the stadium fireworks, when shot, would be fired at a pyrotechnic launching site at roughly behind the right field stands of the stadium. When the fireworks went boom as the As won the 1973 WS Game 1, the bursts of smoke moved by way of the wind to center field, but it was shot off from R field. When the As won 1972 WS Game 4, a single fireworks finale volley happened that lasted roughly 8-9 seconds. 3 fireworks volleys were used for homers usually, but of course, in Game 5 of the 1972 WS, the 3rd Gene Tenace homer caused an additional pyro volley to happen - a total of 4 volleys, for Charles Finley himself! A few of the exceptions here.
Became an A’s fan around 2011-2012. Such an interesting team that was a piece or two away from a title. I remember trading for Jon Lester like it was yesterday, it was so shocking to see them actually go all in for one year. So proud to be a fan of them, and unfortunately in Oakland, ownership will not spend the money or retain key assets. Hopefully that changes in LV with more revenue.
STAY IN OAKLAND!!!
I grew up an As fan. I hate how far they have fallen
Why split hairs? The entire state has fallen
Well the day has come, MLB owners have officially approved the A’s move to Vegas
To think Oakland used to have a team from every major league. Now all are gone (or will be soon enough) and none will ever be coming back. No more Oakland anythings.
Oakland A's have been been hammered by terrible owners.
Except the Haas family
As the last season for the A's is honestly a complete disaster being 25-67 at the All-Star Break, honestly hope they can pull themselves together before the end of the year
Boy, tough times for the city of Oakland.
Those high California taxes and high crime rate where criminals get released due to corrupt Leadership.
Respect for mentioning us Toronto folks and our leafs saga
Reggie Jackson tried to buy the A's. He put together a group of billionaires. Reggie's group said that they would beat any offer for the A's. The MLB chose to go with a lower offer. Bug Selig gave the A's to one of his friends. If Reggie was allowed to buy the team the A's wouldn't be leaving Oakland.
I love you man....but that stadium in Oakland has reached the end of it's usefulness, and thus there still would be the need for a new stadium, If Reggie Jackson & his group were able to buy the team, there would not be a guarantee that they would have taken the Las Vegas route....
Bud Selig does/did like to cut his buddies a deal. After Tom Werner ran the Padres into the ground as managing partner there, Bud Ok'd him to be part of John Henry's ownership group with the Red Sox a few years later....
@@bourque801 hahaha. I get what your saying. I'm running under the assumption that Reggie's group would have been more motivated to build a new stadium in Oakland. Thanks to Bud we will never know.
I watched the Golden Knights playoff round opener against the oilers and they put a LOT more effort into their intro than any other team in the league does. Even the raiders to some degree try harder to appeal more than they did in oakland.
Oakland is the new detroit in the united states.
Problem with Oakland as a whole is that it is the city that is basically there because all of the surrounding cities are successful. That’s why Oakland always falls behind as it doesn’t have what San Jose or San Francisco has in terms of companies. And Oakland is also bad at being a second tier city as Sacramento has taken its spot as NorCal’s best second tier city.
@Five Point Vids, Thank You For Showing Love To ( The Former )
Oakland Athletics. My Most Memorable Game I Attended As A Kid At The Coliseum Was July 5th,1992. Rickey Henderson Hit A Leadoff HR In Both Games Of A Double Header Against The Indian's ( Now Know As The Guardians ). So Much Sport's History Has Occurred In That Area Where The Coliseum, & The Roaracle What's A Trip Is That Lebron Won A NBA Title At The Roaracle Before Steph. Curry Did.
Became an a's fan in 2012 never really got to see a great a's team. I'll never forgive fisher for what he is done to this franchise
Amazing they have had some decent teams in 25-30 teams
Unfortunately the movie based on the Oakland A's was the demise of this organization and they are trying to ride the tails of the Raiders which would not fare well in the city of Las Vegas.....$AD!!!
I would remind 5 points video of Larry Baer. He is friendly guy you would ever meet. I met him at Bus Stop.
When I was looking at the A's issues with Oakland. I had a felling a video like this will be made.
There will be plenty more videos made, I expect.
While the A’s are famous for Moneyball, they should be applauded for their scouting system. It always makes me mad/proud when I see former player excelling.
Who's to blame for this mess? The City of Oakland for not planning a baseball-only facility much sooner including 1995 when Al Davis moved the Raiders back to Oakland from Los Angeles and letting Al erect Mount Davis to the Oakland Coliseum with locations like Jack London Square.
The A's ownership since Walter A. Haas died in 1995 for not considering other cities within Alameda County like Fremont or Dublin deserves blame too.
Dont remind me how depressing this is as an A's fan. On the field it sucks too because they cant deliver in the postseason
We will not let this go down without a fight the baseball world will hear us weather manfred will do anything is to be seen
I just got an idea from another video. It would be cool to see a video of every teams single worst error in franchise history
This team sucks the soul out of me and baseball, yet it’s not the players, nor the coaches. It’s fisher. Nobody would buy the A’s if they go to Vegas. Or at least they shouldn’t. Btw the last clip makes me sad because I hear Ray Fossey’s voice. Fly high Foss
At least I got one World Series with my team, and what a series to have.
I am actually heading to Oakland in a few weeks to watch a game at the Mausoleum. I'm morbidly curious to experience a game there before fthey head to Vegas.
The big Elephant in the Room is the fact that Oakland is part of the San Francisco Metropolitan Area. And its almost impossible for Metro Areas to sustain more than 1 Team in each major league (even New York & Los Angeles have struggled to maintain 2 in a single major league).
That's why its was inevitable that the Raiders & A's would relocate elsewhere outside the Bay Area. This excuse doesn't apply to the Golden State Warriors of course.
The B_y _re_ will never be the s_me without the O_kl_nd _'s
The St Louis Browns we’re originally going to the LA market but WW2 put that on hold
That would be the best day of my life if fisher actually sells the team
For the first 30 years, we were respected. The last 23 we have been getting shit on
when reached for comment, Fisher and Kaval issued the joint statement of "OINK!"
The only near-constant has been bad and/or undercapitalized ownership.
It's not just 3 teams leaving. It's 3 teams with Multiple championships each.
I get where they are coming from, but I think it was a mistake for the city to cease negotiations. They are basically saying "leave we don't care." They should've kept them open, cause that waterfront stadium looks far better than anything you could build in Vegas, because of the water.
The As during the KC days in the were a farm team for the Yankees
That ended when Charlie Finley bought the team
Heh, "the greener pastures of Las Vegas." This is a great sleeper joke.
I gotta brush up for when they come to Vegas.
Goodbye Oakland A’s 😭💔
My dad was a heartbroken 12 year old when the A's left in 1967 and to this day doesn't have a lot of good things to say about Charlie Finlay. It really doesn't seem like anybody really wants the A's, the owners included.
Cleveland would gladly take a team that won a World Series as recently as 1989...
Out of curiosity: Has he become a Royals fan now?
@@Gemnist98 He has. He went to some of the early games when Municipal Stadium was still around and he's been ever since. The front office, however, is a different story (for the obvious reasons).
You made me cry…
I grew up in the bay. A’s have always kind of have taken a backseat to the giants, like a red headed step child.
I lived 18 years in Alameda, and 22 years in Oakland, and there has always been an underlying narrative that Oakland was a dangerous city because they had more black people, The Giants were super close to moving to Tampa, then the city produced some corporate welfare to keep them.
Wonder if I should laser remove the stomper A’s tattoo on my right leg.
I hope that if any major team decides to come back to Oakland the people there finally decide to show any time of appreciation and support to them, seeing the A's have terrible attendance even in their playoff seasons (and there was a lot of them) was pitiful
Raiders did that before
Lol there’s lots of love for the Game in Oakland . Fans are 10% of the problem
@@fernandoacosta7423 no there is not, if there was the A's wouldn't be leaving.
@@SuperRainbolwhy in the hell would fans show appreciation and support to an ownership group who trades or doesn’t resign fan fav players, doesn’t spend, constantly threatens relocation, pinches every penny possible, lies to fans and is content with never winning as long as they stay on revenue sharing. We’re fed up. If you think the fans are why the athletics are leaving then you’re simply misinformed
@@SuperRainbol The stadium ( if you can call it that) has been rotting for 2 decades. The Warriors fans sold out Oracle during the heart of the dynasty. Oakland has good fans, they just don't always have the money to spend on a team that shows as little interest as the A's have in the last 5 years. I don't know how you explain the 70's other than that team had moved 2 times in the previous decade so perhaps the natives thought that they would move again.
Screw Cleveland, Oakland is the true factory of sadness...
Oakland has issues. Teams fleeing the city is a symptom of the issues.
As a life long Oakland my heart hurts.
They were able to retain talent, they just chose not to. They’re a major league farm team!
I guess all Oakland fans should move to Vegas.
The A’s could move out in 2025 to play 2 seasons in their AAA ballpark in Summerlin (a few miles west of Downtown Vegas). It’s only a 10k seat facility, but they can’t get 10k fans in Oakland anymore anyhow!
They could even leave after this season if (somehow) the deal got approved this year...
"They dont have money"
No they refuse to spend the money, theres a difference.
As clever as money ball was all it did was allow ownership to he cheap and try to spend as little as they wanted.
Oakland is just too toxic to have a professional team with high crime and them California high taxes.
If only Oakland did what they promised Al they'd do. Then they'd at least have one franchise breaking their fanbases heart still
They did. They literally gave them $375 million in grant money for the project with Covid and Inflation the price raised and instead of doing a meeting where they were both going to come together to solve the $80-90 million dollar gap what happened? A’s purchased land in Vegas
@@gamer_athletics the team moving cope
@@gamer_athletics Fake News - Oakland told the A''s to pound sound.
They sure broke their fanbase's heart in 1989...