1-They havent decided if they really want to play/learn 2-They dont understand how much a piano costs to move and maintain 3-They under-commit with lessons or quality of piano 4-They use "Grandma's" piano 5-They dont ask for their teachers advice 6-They buy a used piano with a critical flaw 7-They dont get buy-in from their significant other 8-They put it on-hold 9-They buy too quickly 10-They spend too much or too little
1. 0:22 They haven't decided if they really want to play/learn 2. 1:38 They don't understand how much a piano costs to move and maintain 3. 2:46 They under-commit with lessons or quality of piano 4. 4:10 They use "Grandma's" piano 5. 5:39 They don't ask for their teacher's advice 6. 6:25 They buy a used piano with a critical flaw 7. 7:35 They don't get buy-in from their significant other 8. 9:10 They put it on-hold 9. 10:00 They buy too quickly 10. 11:09 They spend too much or too little
I bought a Roland FP30X to start out with and after two years I decided that I wanted the real thing, an acoustic. An electronic piano has many advantages not least the cost, but the sound of an acoustic cannot be beaten.
Great video. If you feel the NEED to learn an instrument, do it. I've been playing guitar since 1990 and deciding to play the guitar was probably the best decision that I have ever made(I realized that while watching this video). Even today I played the guitar for about 2 hours. It is STILL fun. I still LOVE it.
I love that this is from the parents’ perspective of buying because I’m a “child” (16) and I’m going to buy it by myself with the money earn from my grocery store job😮💨😢
Great video. I started playing when I was a teen ager on an old 1911 upright. It was work to play but it was something. In my early 20s I upgraded to a console piano and it was wonderful. All the keys worked, the touch was consistent and it stayed in tune. By my mid-20s, I could afford better and bought a studio upright. It had far better bass. Around the age of 30, I thought a digital would give me the experience of a grand for the price of a console. Big mistake, it wasn't long before I traded that on a small 5'2" baby grand. That kept me happy until I turned 50 and now I have a 6'2" grand. The point, you don't start with the best. Start with the best you can until you out grow the instrument, then upgrade.
I got an Everett piano for free off of facebook marketplace, it is one of the best pianos i have ever played on. Its 41" tall and it has a proper upright action not a spinet action and the flaw it has is a couple rusty strings. I had to have a piano life saver system but the only reason i needed that is because it was not in the prime spot a piano should be in. It stays in tune and works perfectly fine!
I recently invested in a Kawai K500 and the PLS installation to fight against constant humidity fluctuations. Never been a happier acoustic piano owner 😁 I had a Yamaha P125 for around 2-3 years but now my kawai 500 makes me want to practise/play everyday because the tone/sound is just so amazing and she’s so beautiful! I’m only an early intermediate adult learner learning with an awesome teacher. Buying a good acoustic piano definitely was a right decision for me 😊
Funny thing is the keyboard that I'm currently using is the one that you showed at the beginning of the video. Sadly my budget is not that big that's why i get that instead. Hopefully one day I'll can get one of the big boys
I started off on something like that, a small 61 plastic-key keyboard. After about a year of using it and learning pretty much the basics on it I had about enough for an upgrade. I have a Roland FP30 now and there is such a big difference in my playing since I got it. My point is, if your serious about piano then everything will fall into place for you, and a wonderful journey of playing awaits you. :)
i’ve been playing for a long time, o started off with a higher end digital, we have a restored upright grand, but now we’re going to switch it for an 1880’a kimball fully restored wonderful sounding and looking living room sized upright grand, very high quality. it’s an antique but we had a lot of pianists in the family and they invested in high end pianos, they had stri ways but sold them. but we still have a lot of high end pianos in the family still.
I reside the east coast of Australia. I have been led (via a Broadway personality) who has been a friend for a while now. He said “Daveo” just watch them - meaning you chaps. I’m glad of the advice. I have been a pianist and Opera singer for a while now. All you you, in my mind, are teachers of kind, and considerate members of OUR international community. Thank You.
I started with learning how to play beloved melodies on a kid's toy piano and now years later I'm thinking of getting a real piano, so this video showed up on time, thank you!
After a ton of research, I bought a 30-year-old Baldwin console for $750 and another $750 to move it. I lucked out. The previous owner is a church pianist. So it is that fabled Grandma's piano that's actually good.
I really wish I had seen your video sooner. I am learning piano and I was looking into a piano. It sounded really good and was in really good condition. But then my parents picked up a free piano without giving me any information about it and not letting me see it or test and now I have to pay twice the cost of the piano I was looking at to get this mid-1800 broken and extremely out of tune piano repaired and major retune. It has keys that dont work unless you press very hard, some keys that make no sound, and some that you have to un hatch from inside every time you press the note. The only benefit to this is that now I have an antique. My parents kinda thought oh well it's a piano and it makes sound so it's perfect and it's free. Even though I was the one using my money to pay for all of this.
Shoulda described the differences between portable keyboards and digital pianos. To a newbie, they both seem near the same. They both got little screens on them, and I think maybe the digital ones always come with the stationary legs, or maybe they can be portable as well, idk. I made the mistake of buying a portable one, and I can tell why you say not to buy them. It doesn't sound like a real piano.. The piano app on my phone actually has a more realistic piano sound..
@Texa Tim Root, WOW that's really funny that you ended the video with that "Out of Tune Grandma Piano" playing the Beatles "Let It Be"... with a wrong chord at the end, is that MISTAKE # 11 & 12 ??? LOOOL :)
All very good info but #6 'critical flaws' is so important. You didn't mention sound board did you? A seriously cracked soundboard, or an unstable pinblock so the piano can never be tuned properly, are deal killers no matter how good the piano looks or how great the price is!
I add; dont love the first piano or search only one musicshop. And sleep one night before decide. Think what kind a use and space instrument going to be? If you gonna play on/off and space limited, youre choose compact and smaller piano, economic model. If youre advanced and you have some kind a hall in your house and have a capital in it, you can choose bigger and more quality piano. Digital piano is better for younger people and its easier moving in the house.
I was lucky when i bought my own piano. the previous owner had bought it new and it was played only five or ten times the whole time when it was theirs so i got almost new piano for 50€ . the prevoius owner wanted to get rid of it because their child was moving back home so they need more space.
MISTAKE #11: Not considering a used piano. You can get a good used piano for a fraction of the price . They're an excellent value IF they're in good shape. Best to bring along someone knowledgeable to advise you. If it's in rough shape, it may not be cost effective to have major repairs done. Lastly, in my opinion, a "broken in" piano can sound even better than a new one!
I'm sorry but you can totally learn to play on a 61 key. I guess if were talking in the context of playing with an instructor then yeah, they may not like that. But for the most part, if your going to learn at home or play other styles of music that is not some of the demanding classical songs that require an 88 key, a 61 key or LESS can definitely do the trick if your starting out. Not a big investment, small, compact, and you can learn A LOT.
If that's the case then there's no need to cheap out. Look for a brand new expensive Steinway Concert Grand that's at least 8ft, if it's any less then why bother?
I do not disagree with you , not entirely. first, my $140 yamaha did get me through covid. secondly , your bias in selling over having people going for a free piano needs to include saying how much work and luck it will be finding one worth taking.
Thank's to Alamo Music Center, for the details of these digital pianos. We just released a video about the difference between an acoustic piano and a digital piano: ua-cam.com/video/Iq0o1agqUxY/v-deo.html Hopefully useful for those of you who are starting to learn the piano :)
It is never too old to start! Many of us did not start until we were adults because our parents could not afford to get us lessons and a piano when we were kids.
I am still yet to play a real grand (only tried "grand feel" in digital pianos), but physics implies that due to the hammers hitting strings above then falling down, you can potentially play faster (you probably wouldn't notice tho?). And the key "weight" is more consistent from the tip of the key and further forward due to the longer keys. Most people seem to love the feel of grand more.
Very good question - I would say if you’re talking new, most likely an upright as 10k won’t buy you much for a new grand - used, I’d say grand as you can get a pretty nice used grand for 10k
Zedamex there are some upright pianos with longer strings than a baby grand. The longer strings make for a much more beautiful sound. I just bought a wonderful new upright that was head and shoulders better than any used or new baby grand I sat down to. Personally I'd stay away from baby grands and either get an upright with longer strings, or a good used grand piano. Just my opinion.
For tearose522: which is the upright piano with longer strings than a baby grand? Feurich 122? I recall to have read something about it. However, I also read that Feurich pianos do not have a good silent system.
All depends. $10k will buy a very nice used grand. Space is usually the issue. If you enjoy good sound, a 5-7 or longer grand is great. If you have space issues, but want bigger sound, then tall upright. If you have a target of being an aspiring pianist, then grand; the action gives the better response. Mini-grands (like 4-11) are really pale with sound fullness. I bought a 6’ Yamaha G3 and loved it ($7K).
Yes, unweighted 60'ish keyed pianos can introduce bad habits that have to be unwired but I always hated this elitist price floor these people insist on with pianos. You can learn on a cheap keyboard, it really isn't the end of the world if you don't have 400 to blow on a piano. I can only imagine how many amazing musicians we've lost to bad advice like this.
I didn’t find it demotivating at all! I’m surprised you did. He’s actually giving great advice on how to make sure the piano you purchase contributes to making this whole experience a positive one and not one you’ll look back upon as a mistake. 💚
@@riggs20 I agree with you. I would have liked to see this vid before I bought my new BRIGHT ! Yamaha upright. The whole neighborhood knows when I hit a wrong note, Also: another reason to buy a piano: great way to encourage guests to leave.....
Wait, people are actually buying a piano even before learn how to play it? The heck? I've save my money since I'm in high school so I can bought one of these
1-They havent decided if they really want to play/learn
2-They dont understand how much a piano costs to move and maintain
3-They under-commit with lessons or quality of piano
4-They use "Grandma's" piano
5-They dont ask for their teachers advice
6-They buy a used piano with a critical flaw
7-They dont get buy-in from their significant other
8-They put it on-hold
9-They buy too quickly
10-They spend too much or too little
1. 0:22 They haven't decided if they really want to play/learn
2. 1:38 They don't understand how much a piano costs to move and maintain
3. 2:46 They under-commit with lessons or quality of piano
4. 4:10 They use "Grandma's" piano
5. 5:39 They don't ask for their teacher's advice
6. 6:25 They buy a used piano with a critical flaw
7. 7:35 They don't get buy-in from their significant other
8. 9:10 They put it on-hold
9. 10:00 They buy too quickly
10. 11:09 They spend too much or too little
Thank you
I bought a Roland FP30X to start out with and after two years I decided that I wanted the real thing, an acoustic. An electronic piano has many advantages not least the cost, but the sound of an acoustic cannot be beaten.
Great video. If you feel the NEED to learn an instrument, do it. I've been playing guitar since 1990 and deciding to play the guitar was probably the best decision that I have ever made(I realized that while watching this video). Even today I played the guitar for about 2 hours. It is STILL fun. I still LOVE it.
I started piano at 29 last year! Always wanted to play, but my family wasn't music oriented. I play around 1h/day now, I love it!
@@G91YS That's awesome!!!
I love that this is from the parents’ perspective of buying because I’m a “child” (16) and I’m going to buy it by myself with the money earn from my grocery store job😮💨😢
Great video. I started playing when I was a teen ager on an old 1911 upright. It was work to play but it was something. In my early 20s I upgraded to a console piano and it was wonderful. All the keys worked, the touch was consistent and it stayed in tune. By my mid-20s, I could afford better and bought a studio upright. It had far better bass. Around the age of 30, I thought a digital would give me the experience of a grand for the price of a console. Big mistake, it wasn't long before I traded that on a small 5'2" baby grand. That kept me happy until I turned 50 and now I have a 6'2" grand. The point, you don't start with the best. Start with the best you can until you out grow the instrument, then upgrade.
I got an Everett piano for free off of facebook marketplace, it is one of the best pianos i have ever played on. Its 41" tall and it has a proper upright action not a spinet action and the flaw it has is a couple rusty strings. I had to have a piano life saver system but the only reason i needed that is because it was not in the prime spot a piano should be in. It stays in tune and works perfectly fine!
God please i need a piano & i font have a bunch of money to get it, how much is it ???)
I recently invested in a Kawai K500 and the PLS installation to fight against constant humidity fluctuations. Never been a happier acoustic piano owner 😁 I had a Yamaha P125 for around 2-3 years but now my kawai 500 makes me want to practise/play everyday because the tone/sound is just so amazing and she’s so beautiful! I’m only an early intermediate adult learner learning with an awesome teacher. Buying a good acoustic piano definitely was a right decision for me 😊
Funny thing is the keyboard that I'm currently using is the one that you showed at the beginning of the video. Sadly my budget is not that big that's why i get that instead. Hopefully one day I'll can get one of the big boys
I started off on something like that, a small 61 plastic-key keyboard. After about a year of using it and learning pretty much the basics on it I had about enough for an upgrade. I have a Roland FP30 now and there is such a big difference in my playing since I got it. My point is, if your serious about piano then everything will fall into place for you, and a wonderful journey of playing awaits you. :)
i’ve been playing for a long time, o started off with a higher end digital, we have a restored upright grand, but now we’re going to switch it for an 1880’a kimball fully restored wonderful sounding and looking living room sized upright grand, very high quality. it’s an antique but we had a lot of pianists in the family and they invested in high end pianos, they had stri ways but sold them. but we still have a lot of high end pianos in the family still.
it’s considered a professional instrument, ornate case, fair sized, and sound of a baby grand.
I reside the east coast of Australia. I have been led (via a Broadway personality) who has been a friend for a while now. He said “Daveo” just watch them - meaning you chaps. I’m glad of the advice. I have been a pianist and Opera singer for a while now. All you you, in my mind, are teachers of kind, and considerate members of OUR international community. Thank You.
Thanks for your advice!!!
I am an adult beginner and I really appreciate this insight!!
Greetings from Brussels, Belgium
I'm planning to save money and buy a piano, how's yours?
I started with learning how to play beloved melodies on a kid's toy piano and now years later I'm thinking of getting a real piano, so this video showed up on time, thank you!
After a ton of research, I bought a 30-year-old Baldwin console for $750 and another $750 to move it.
I lucked out. The previous owner is a church pianist. So it is that fabled Grandma's piano that's actually good.
$750 to move?! Wow, so much!
@@tingting9178 Well they had to bring it down a tight flight of stairs. Would have been significantly cheaper otherwise.
you got robbed on the moving costs.
I really wish I had seen your video sooner. I am learning piano and I was looking into a piano. It sounded really good and was in really good condition. But then my parents picked up a free piano without giving me any information about it and not letting me see it or test and now I have to pay twice the cost of the piano I was looking at to get this mid-1800 broken and extremely out of tune piano repaired and major retune. It has keys that dont work unless you press very hard, some keys that make no sound, and some that you have to un hatch from inside every time you press the note. The only benefit to this is that now I have an antique. My parents kinda thought oh well it's a piano and it makes sound so it's perfect and it's free. Even though I was the one using my money to pay for all of this.
I'm having an antique 100-year-old+ "Grandma's piano" delivered Sunday. It still plays, but I pray it carries a tune!
I love your videos. They are helping me in my search to find the right instrument for my family.
That's so true!!! Thank you for your video. Grateful to watch your video before my purchase!
solid advice, thank you!
Shoulda described the differences between portable keyboards and digital pianos. To a newbie, they both seem near the same. They both got little screens on them, and I think maybe the digital ones always come with the stationary legs, or maybe they can be portable as well, idk. I made the mistake of buying a portable one, and I can tell why you say not to buy them. It doesn't sound like a real piano.. The piano app on my phone actually has a more realistic piano sound..
Thank you for your advice
Great tips! Thank you
Thank you for advise🙏 very helpfull
@Texa Tim Root, WOW that's really funny that you ended the video with that "Out of Tune Grandma Piano" playing the Beatles "Let It Be"... with a wrong chord at the end, is that MISTAKE # 11 & 12 ??? LOOOL :)
Very valid points!
Thank you for the info. I need them.
All very good info but #6 'critical flaws' is so important. You didn't mention sound board did you? A seriously cracked soundboard, or an unstable pinblock so the piano can never be tuned properly, are deal killers no matter how good the piano looks or how great the price is!
I add; dont love the first piano or search only one musicshop. And sleep one night before decide. Think what kind a use and space instrument going to be? If you gonna play on/off and space limited, youre choose compact and smaller piano, economic model. If youre advanced and you have some kind a hall in your house and have a capital in it, you can choose bigger and more quality piano. Digital piano is better for younger people and its easier moving in the house.
Thank you very much. Great advise.
You're very welcome!
I was lucky when i bought my own piano. the previous owner had bought it new and it was played only five or ten times the whole time when it was theirs so i got almost new piano for 50€ . the prevoius owner wanted to get rid of it because their child was moving back home so they need more space.
Thanks
Great advice
5:27 should have been the thumbnail of this video lol
You know what you should do with that out-of-tune piano? Let it be.
MISTAKE #11: Not considering a used piano. You can get a good used piano for a fraction of the price . They're an excellent value IF they're in good shape. Best to bring along someone knowledgeable to advise you. If it's in rough shape, it may not be cost effective to have major repairs done. Lastly, in my opinion, a "broken in" piano can sound even better than a new one!
1:14 I can't afford that😀 I think I'll just go with the little hello kitty piano...
I'm sorry but you can totally learn to play on a 61 key. I guess if were talking in the context of playing with an instructor then yeah, they may not like that. But for the most part, if your going to learn at home or play other styles of music that is not some of the demanding classical songs that require an 88 key, a 61 key or LESS can definitely do the trick if your starting out. Not a big investment, small, compact, and you can learn A LOT.
im buying a piano cuz it looks cool in my living room. using it just as a decoration for my room.
Don’t do that please
If you buy a piano please play it and take care of it as well. Otherwise it’s being wasted
@@laxly442 Im kidding. I do know how to play the piano already. But i appreciate your comment : )
If that's the case then there's no need to cheap out. Look for a brand new expensive Steinway Concert Grand that's at least 8ft, if it's any less then why bother?
I need advice regarding piano chose .I can't chose between Yamaha ydp144 ,kawai kdp110 or similar Roland ....thanks in advance
I'm thinking about a digital one, probably YAMAHA YPD-144, is this it a good piano to start?
Yes it is my friend! I have it since August and I am very pleased from my investment!
“LET IT BE”
great
I do not disagree with you , not entirely. first, my $140 yamaha did get me through covid. secondly , your bias in selling over having people going for a free piano needs to include saying how much work and luck it will be finding one worth taking.
Too many piano huhuhu I want one piano though it's not grand
I really want to learn how to play piano. Can somebody assist me in buying one?, I don't have enough to buy for now
Ooof im on a 61 key keyboard :(
Thank's to Alamo Music Center, for the details of these digital pianos. We just released a video about the difference between an acoustic piano and a digital piano: ua-cam.com/video/Iq0o1agqUxY/v-deo.html
Hopefully useful for those of you who are starting to learn the piano :)
im going to be 14 soon is it too old to start?
No. The answer is no.
If it's what you want..... DO IT.
Im 13 and ima start so wanna start together ?if u want ill show u my progress and u show me yours and we will be rival's .😁😉😊😎
I had piano lessons when I was 10 to 12.
It is never too old to start! Many of us did not start until we were adults because our parents could not afford to get us lessons and a piano when we were kids.
For the same price, let us say 10.000 dollars, which is better, a baby grand piano or an upright piano?
I am still yet to play a real grand (only tried "grand feel" in digital pianos), but physics implies that due to the hammers hitting strings above then falling down, you can potentially play faster (you probably wouldn't notice tho?). And the key "weight" is more consistent from the tip of the key and further forward due to the longer keys.
Most people seem to love the feel of grand more.
Very good question - I would say if you’re talking new, most likely an upright as 10k won’t buy you much for a new grand - used, I’d say grand as you can get a pretty nice used grand for 10k
Zedamex there are some upright pianos with longer strings than a baby grand. The longer strings make for a much more beautiful sound. I just bought a wonderful new upright that was head and shoulders better than any used or new baby grand I sat down to. Personally I'd stay away from baby grands and either get an upright with longer strings, or a good used grand piano. Just my opinion.
For tearose522: which is the upright piano with longer strings than a baby grand? Feurich 122? I recall to have read something about it. However, I also read that Feurich pianos do not have a good silent system.
All depends. $10k will buy a very nice used grand. Space is usually the issue. If you enjoy good sound, a 5-7 or longer grand is great. If you have space issues, but want bigger sound, then tall upright. If you have a target of being an aspiring pianist, then grand; the action gives the better response. Mini-grands (like 4-11) are really pale with sound fullness. I bought a 6’ Yamaha G3 and loved it ($7K).
Yes, unweighted 60'ish keyed pianos can introduce bad habits that have to be unwired but I always hated this elitist price floor these people insist on with pianos. You can learn on a cheap keyboard, it really isn't the end of the world if you don't have 400 to blow on a piano. I can only imagine how many amazing musicians we've lost to bad advice like this.
I think it is not impossible to find a decent weighted 88 key piano for less than 400, probably used tho.
$400? I was thinking $3k.
Ha #7, almost divorced so I can skip this one!
1:00 this tip is not for indians.....
Rest you all understand well....
😅
3:15
200 dollars are nothing to this man....!!!!!!
Seriously????
😶
Don't buy from this company. Paid in full, but the piano has never been shipped!
That piano that you played sounded horrible. I am not an expert, but something about the sound seemed offffffff.
That’s because you’re not an expert. It sounded exquisite
That's why he played in that piano, to show most of these old pianos are out of tune.
It sounded awful to me.
Bc its a grandma piano
LOL. I hope you’re making a joke and know why it sounded bad!
Can you change the title to '10 reasons not to own a piano' ? Coz this video is so demotivating.
I didn’t find it demotivating at all! I’m surprised you did. He’s actually giving great advice on how to make sure the piano you purchase contributes to making this whole experience a positive one and not one you’ll look back upon as a mistake. 💚
@@riggs20 I agree with you. I would have liked to see this vid before I bought my new BRIGHT ! Yamaha upright. The whole neighborhood knows when I hit a wrong note, Also: another reason to buy a piano: great way to encourage guests to leave.....
Why are u always shouting jeez
Wait, people are actually buying a piano even before learn how to play it? The heck? I've save my money since I'm in high school so I can bought one of these
How on Earth would I learn to play piano without a piano?
@@Kevin15047 That person probably started out with a keyboard or smt
@@Kevin15047 LOL. I thought the same thing. How are you going to learn if you don’t have access to one?